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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

460 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 460
Reviews: 325
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 11.17%
Wants: 46
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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StonedTrippin

Colorado

4.16/5  rDev +1%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

was fortunate enough to find a 2000 vintage bottle of this for just 13 bucks. the label reads best before November 2010, but im thinking its not past its prime at all. it pours a surprisingly lively darkest of browns, without any light at all able to pass through. the head is made up of micro bubbles of a lighter brown color. the head doesn't last, but its easily reinvigorated with a swirl of my globe. the nose on this is heavy chocolate, burnt malt, ash, and a gentle toffee tickle. it has an aged mellowness to it, very earthy and organic, with roasted barley and cocoa powder dominating up front. the finish is like all the best features of dusty leather, my grandpas attic, mature compost, and smoked pork. its just so complex and delicious. there is a funny astringent bitterness towards the finish and the alcohol stands out more than it should in a beer so low in abv, but other than that its phenomenal. the mouthfeel makes it for me, so gentle on the carbonation, and curiously dry for the style. I love the cocoa powder flavor, it transforms into a cocoa powder feel of sorts, really cool. age has definitely done wonders for this beer, and while ive never had a fresh one, I can assure you that this is one special porter. perhaps also my first beer from Sweden. memorable.

Serving type: bottle

04-11-2013 19:04:00 | More by StonedTrippin
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jwc215

Wisconsin

4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

This was the 2004 Vintage.
Poured black with ruby highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The thin tan head soon became a bubbly, well-retained lacing.
The smell was reminiscent of that of robust coffee.
The taste had smoky, charcoal-like characteristics. It had the flavors of rich coffee and bitter chocolate.
The silky, smooth mouthfeel ended with a bitter-sweet aftertaste. There was a very subtle hint of an alcohol finish.
The smooth, delicious, rich taste, along with a low abv for this style, makes this an enjoyably drinkable "session" Baltic Porter.

Serving type: bottle

04-13-2006 22:38:57 | More by jwc215
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Gueuzedude

Arizona

3.7/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Best by April 2010, Sampled March 2007
As I pour this beer is shows a clear, dark chocolate brown color; it sits in my glass an opaque, black color though. It is topped by a frothy, initially two-finger thick dirtied brown, tan color. The aroma smells of dark aged malts; notes of chocolate, dusty burnt grain husks, some touches of dry cobwebs and toasted soda crackers mixes with notes of port, sherry and a rich, umami like, lightly concentrated meaty malt character.

The flavor is lightly sweet up front, yet moves to a soft roast driven acidity. The sweet malt notes are a mix of sweetened caramel, and sweet chocolate notes. The finish has a touch of coffee like, burnt bitterness to it as well as a chalky, almost tannic, husky burnt character. I really like the complexity that the slight oxidation notes bring to this beer, it adds a meaty richness to this brew, despite that it has quite a light body and mouth feel to it. I think that the roast character may have faded a bit with time as well, though it is still fairly noticeable, and the flavor profile is still largely driven by the dark malt notes.

In the end this is a fairly tasty brew, but I don't see how this is going to last until 2010. It is probably already just past its peak, and I could see this starting to develop cardboard-like oxidation notes pretty soon.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2007 04:17:35 | More by Gueuzedude
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Rochefort10nh

New Hampshire

5/5  rDev +21.4%

11-26-2011 23:16:21 | More by Rochefort10nh
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smcolw

Massachusetts

3.58/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Very dark with a deep tan head that leaves a generous amount of lace.

Sweet chocolate aroma with buttery caramel...the smell is rich, full and inviting. There is a presense of alcohol, but it doesn't detract.

This is a very sweet porter. The hop comes across strictly as a spice. The malt sugars are present thoughout the tasting, even in the aftertaste. The high level of sugars make for a thick consistency. The carbonation is equally high providing a slight contrast to the sweetness.

This is a little too sweet for my taste, even though I can appreciate the complexity of the beer.

Serving type: bottle

03-06-2005 21:41:41 | More by smcolw
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kojevergas

Texas

3.3/5  rDev -19.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle into Westlveteren goblet in Stockholm, Sweden. Reviewed live.

A: One finger head of nice cream lacing, good thickness, and fair to bad retention. Colour is a solid black.

Sm: Raspberry fruit ester hops, cream, caramelized malt, and I assume barley. Me nose is broken; sorry lads.

T: Fruit estery body alongside nice cream, slight chocolate, and restrained caramelized malt. Complex enough. Built and balanced well, just not bold or inspired.

Mf: Smooth and wet, with adequate but not overdone coarseness and thickness. There is some strange dryness on the finish that isn't really welcome considering the dying ester flavour that accompanies it.

Dr: Average range ABV, very drinkable, and of a high price. The quality is nothing special.

Serving type: bottle

07-14-2011 16:31:30 | More by kojevergas
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GClarkage

California

3.55/5  rDev -13.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

4/17/05- Purchased at a wine and spirits store in Sonoma, CA

Presentation- 8.8oz bottle, vintage 1997, poured into my Corsendonk tulip.

Appearance- Dark and lightly sryupy pour, no head or lacing whatsoever.

Smell- Very sweet, almost like a prune juice scent. Alcohol fumes as well. Interesting.

Taste- Raisins, prunes, raosted malt in the background with maybe a light coffee grounds flavor. Maybe, just maybe a touch of super dark chocolate as well.

Mouthfeel- Pretty watery, almost like a watered down coffee liquor.

Drinkability- Not bad, but definitely not worth the $4.95 I paid for this not even 9oz of liquid. Worth a try if you can find it for cheaper, but still not a great baltic IMO.

Serving type: bottle

04-18-2005 03:01:33 | More by GClarkage
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wl0307

United Kingdom (England)

4.28/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Purchased at the Foreign Beer Bar, NWAF 2008, Manchester. "Argang 2007" says the label, BB 13 NOV 17 ("2017" it means?!), served chilled in a straight imperial pint glass.

A: very dark brown in colour, nearly black, coming with a creamy tan head with good retention and restrained carbonation.
S: a settled fruity aroma as of cherry skins and berry-liquor, plus sweet roastiness like coffee-syrup, black sugar, and sweet nuttiness, with a mildly alcoholic touch as well as a lager's refreshing acidity in the background. Very "quiet", yet also "deep"... and, have I just sensed a touch of banana-esters??
T: caramelised dates, roast nuts, chewy black malts with a hint of finely ground espresso blend approach upfront; in no time the more aromatic and powdery Munich malts (as of a Dunkel) develops, along with bitter-sweet burned sugar and moderate but deep-running herbal bitter hops at the back of the palate. The finish is rather clean (in line with a lager), while the roasty aroma and chewy bitter mouthfeel just linger beautifully (like a true stout)...
M&D: refreshing, with lovely creamy fizz soothing the palate; this Baltic Porter is the lowest-gravity one that I've tried, and yet it provides all the complexities and an even higher drinkability. A delicious, well-hopped, and well-made dark gem this is, really like a chocolate stout blended with a full-bodied and fruity Czech dark lager.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2008 01:00:55 | More by wl0307
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oriolesfan4

Maryland

3.5/5  rDev -15%

03-15-2013 03:53:59 | More by oriolesfan4
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rhoadsrage

Illinois

4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

(Served in a nonic)

A- This beer pours a dense black body with no sign of carbonation or light getting through. There is a thick bubbly light tan head that last for a good bit.

S- The aroma of cream and dark roasted malt is well blended with some Munich malt qualities about it.

T- The soft black malt has a coffee hint without the bitterness and a smooth mellow tang to it. There is a mineral water taste to it as the beer warms but it is pleasant. The finish has a touch of roasted malt with a faint smoke quality to it.

M- This beer has a medium mouthfeel with a slightly slippery texture and no alcohol heat noticed.

O- The well-blended flavors of dark malt are smooth and very easy to drink but still have some nice depth. There were some grain and pot caramel qualities that are hard to describe in there. It is a great "recreation" of a historic beer and a lovely session beer.

Serving type: bottle

06-29-2011 13:38:09 | More by rhoadsrage
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DrunkinYogi

Connecticut

4/5  rDev -2.9%

03-21-2014 03:13:35 | More by DrunkinYogi
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jdhilt

New Hampshire

3.48/5  rDev -15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a one finger light tan head that fades slowly, leaving some lace. Totally black color. Light-medium carbonation and heavy bodied. Slight chocolate nose. Flavor is chocolate and roasted coffee, some bakers chocolate at finish. $4.20 for a 500ml bottle from Colonial Spirits Acton, Ma.

Serving type: bottle

07-29-2008 22:18:20 | More by jdhilt
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Zorro

California

4.38/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Retired? This bottle "Årgång 2004" and was delivered to the store just this week.

Pours a clear extremely dark brown beer with a nice brown head.

Smell is quite rich. Caramelized sugar and rye are the first things you smell. Fruit smell is mostly raisins, plums and figs. The last thing I can smell is a faint whiff of smoke.

Taste is very sweet and malty with a fairly strong hit of smoke and bitterness in the finish. A feisty porter that wants to argue with your tongue. "I am sweet and mild" and then it totally turns the tables "No I am smoky dark, and bitter" a Jekyll and Hyde flavor. Fairly fruity in the middle of the extremes in taste. Nice long lasting bitterness in the taste. Only one minor defect, there is a slight metallic flavor from the dark roasted malts used, just a hint but it is there.

Mouthfeel is thick.

A tasty drinkable beer here, too bad it is $5 a bottle. Full flavored Baltic porter that I can recommend.

Serving type: bottle

10-18-2005 01:10:05 | More by Zorro
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Georgiabeer

Georgia

4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours dark brown close to black with a head that quickly dissipates. The smell is typical Baltic porter, if a little lighter than some. Winey, slightly malty with notes of stewed cherries and prunes. The taste is similar to the smell, with vinous notes, prunes, and quite a bit of creamy vanilla on the finish. The mouthfeel is medium weight but fairly creamy and with nicely restrained carbonation. Very nice example and nicely complex especially given the relatively low alcohol.

Serving type: bottle

01-17-2007 00:43:10 | More by Georgiabeer
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DoubleJ

California

4.55/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

This is from the 2004 batch. From the Wine Exchange in Orange, on to the beer:

The black/opaque color and light tan head make a great contrast with each other. Smells of smoky/roasted malts with a sweet banana flavor. The flavor is strong, yet mellow. The bitterness is a burnt one from the malts. Trace of chocolate. The beer sweetens as it warms up, adding a hinted fudge flavor. It was extremely smooth, probabaly from the aging, and was much too easy to consume. It's so easy, a caveman can do it. HA! HA! But seriously, try it out if you can get it.

Serving type: bottle

05-09-2007 06:02:16 | More by DoubleJ
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duceswild

Maryland

3.5/5  rDev -15%

03-17-2013 18:11:49 | More by duceswild
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Stinkypuss

Pennsylvania

4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Carnegie porter 5.5 Porter 2010 edition. They brew another, lighter version as well.

Pours brown with ruby highlights. A nice khaki colored head forms and has staying power. Lacing is abundant. Aroma of deeply roasted malts, bready, and a touch of sea salt. Develops of robust malty flavor, with just a faint notion of smoke used to dry the malts. There is a complimentary flavor of a mild tea like hop balance. Mildly fruity ale yeast is apparent in the finish as well as a
Iight herbal bitterness. Mouthfeel is smooth, delicate carbonation and very easy to drink. In fact, it took me longer to enter this than to drink it. A fine Sweedish export.

Serving type: bottle

08-26-2011 05:53:08 | More by Stinkypuss
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biegaman

Ontario (Canada)

3.56/5  rDev -13.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Carnegie Porter looks like a liquid raspberry truffle: it's a melted chocolate brown colour for the most part but has remnants of ruby throughout. All the colour is concealed within its dark exterior and only illuminated when held right up against the light. Its head is scattered but manages to coat most of the surface and some parts of the glass.

Truthfully, there isn't much to distinguish Carnegie Porter. The aroma has only entry-level amounts of chocolate and roasted malt, not really enough even to emulate coffee or licorice flavours. There's traces of dark fruits - whether the influence of malt, yeast, or alcohol who knows - but they, too, make only a minimal contribution.

Those unaccustomed to dark beers will find this surprisingly, pleasantly easy to drink; those expecting a true Scandinavian Baltic Porter will be entirely disappointed. This has neither an especially roasted nor hopped presence, with virtually no coffee, chocolate, caramel, toffee, nutty, or molasses complexity and only the most brief taste of dark fruits. Boring.

The label on the back states that "storage helps the flavour mature and helps enhance its harmony"; there's no production or best before date on this bottle but I doubt it's all that fresh. Already the beer tastes oxidized and considerably thinned out. Given this thin a malt bill - and especially at a mild 5.5% - I'd ignore the brewery's recommendations and drink it now.

Carnegie Porter is a dark beer likely to appeal to those most afraid of them; I should have expected such a watered-down product from Carlsberg. There's nothing bold or intimating about this supposed Baltic Porter - it's as much a caricature as the Swedish chef from the Muppets. Scandinavians do much bolder (and better) than this. Don't waste your time on it.

Serving type: bottle

01-23-2014 04:40:07 | More by biegaman
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plaid75

New York

3.9/5  rDev -5.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Argang 2004.

Poured a deep black hue with a one finger foamy tan head. There was good retention and lacing.

The smell featured a soft cocoa aroma with hints of coffee and mild caramel.

The taste consisted of an upfront lactose sweetness that gradually blended with the roasted coffee element The sweetness prevented the flavor from drying out. I was a bit suprised by this.

The mouthfeel was full and chewy, with a bit of an uncomfortable heavy sweetness.

Overall a nice and flavorful porter. Not as dry as I would have hoped however.

Serving type: bottle

05-17-2007 01:12:46 | More by plaid75
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Mebuzzard

Colorado

4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1997 argang vintage bottle, 8+oz. Found it at Falling Rock in Denver.
Pours a black, slick body with reddish tints around the edge. 1 finger tan head. Very clean; no residue or lacing along the glass.
Smells of sweet chocolate, roasted coffee, molasses, caramel and bbq sauce. Nothing overpowering, alcohol is vacant.
Taste; very nice blend of the chocolate and coffee. Sweetness of raisin and black plum. Molasses turns into a burnt caramel flavor.
Just when I think it's gonna pack an overwhelming punch, it disappears nicely. Good drinking brew, wish it were a bigger bottle.

Serving type: bottle

03-26-2007 20:17:52 | More by Mebuzzard
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beerthulhu

New Jersey

4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A: Poured a dark, cola color with plum highlights around the edges when held up to the light. The head was compact and creamy, a dark khaki color that quickly settled to a sparse layering but left a beautiful near solid film lacing. Even with its dark nature you can still see the rapid steady jet streams of carbonation bustling to the surface.

S: The nose was dark roasted malts with deep chocolate and fresh coffee.

T: The initial flavor was rich bitter sweet chocolate with dark coffee grains and some lactose/creamer notes adding some sweetness. There was some cocoa and vanilla bean, fresh ripe fruit (plums, raisins) adding to the complex and well balanced profile. There was a noticeable creamy chocolate nature to the drink as well.

M: creamy, rich, and aerated(fluffy) in the mouth with semi-bitter chocolate and fresh coffee for a lacing and fade.

D: Drinkability was simply beautiful, Did not want to sit my glass down for this one and was sad to see it go so quickly. Amazing and worthy of a high recommend.

Serving type: bottle

05-28-2008 23:39:22 | More by beerthulhu
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Latarnik

New Jersey

4/5  rDev -2.9%

05-24-2014 23:07:19 | More by Latarnik
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Bighuge

Minnesota

3.7/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

2001: This beer is a very dark ruby. Thin beige head disintegrates to nothing quickly. A coffee scent dominates with hints of mocha as well on the nose. Nice velvet like feel on the tongue. Smooth tastes of chocolate, cocoa and java. Very smooth porter. Very easy drinking. A nice faint bitterness. A solid porter in my book.

Serving type: bottle

05-16-2002 21:47:16 | More by Bighuge
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DrJay

Massachusetts

4.6/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2004 vintage. This one poured a clear, very dark brown with purplish highlights and a dense, tan cap. Great head retention and the foam produced plenty of thick, clumpy lacing. A grainy malt and dry cocoa aroma hit my nose first, followed by a light roastiness, dates, and nuts. Very malty with a clean yeast character in the nose. Mild bitterness that sits just underneath the malt notes. Fairly sweet, very malty, with ripe fruit, prunes, and nuts filling out the middle. It finished with a bittersweet chocolate/cocoa flavour. Chewy, malty body with creamy carbonation. Very smooth with a refined texture. Great balance, seems a bit mellowed with some graceful aging. This is a superb baltic porter, highly recommended.

Serving type: bottle

12-18-2007 18:04:48 | More by DrJay
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Derek

British Columbia (Canada)

4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

2004 vintage.

A: Black with a creamy tan head. Great retention & lace.

S: Roasted coffee, brown sugar, dark fruit, floral hops.

T: Roasted grain has a light coffee flavour, brown sugar, dark fruit bread with nuts, slight mineral flavour, light smoke, some roasted acidity, assertive bitterness. Very impressive depth for its weight.

M: Modest body is quite creamy (impressive for its weight), slight chalky acidity.

D: Quite good.

Serving type: bottle

05-14-2007 00:40:14 | More by Derek
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 460 ratings.