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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

459 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 459
Reviews: 325
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 46
Gots: 19 | FT: 1
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

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plfahey

Illinois

4.38/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

12 oz. bottle poured into a tulip glass.

Appearance-Deep brown-black with nice ruby highlights and brilliant clarith. Moderate off-mocha head has pretty good retention and leaves some nice lacing.

Aroma-Bready, caramel, chocolatey, molasses, bread pudding, and lightly roasty, with hints of dark fruit. Sweet, with low to no hops. Very nice malt complexity on the aroma.

Flavor-Bread and chocolate with flavors of plum, prune, and grape. On the mid-palate, some sweet caramel and molasses shows through. Fades to a light roast flavor with some chocolate, toast, and fruits. Rather sweet, but dries out a bit as the roast asserts itself.

Mouthfeel-Medium to medium full body, with moderately low carbonation and a very smooth, creamy mouthfeel.

A very solid baltic porter, if on the low end of the alcohol spectrum. The flavor and aroma are quite good, though I do find it to be a little bit sweet for my taste. Still, fantastic.

Serving type: bottle

05-06-2011 04:05:47 | More by plfahey
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riored4v

Colorado

4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Reviewed on 1/25/08 in a SN Tulip glass.

Appearance had a creamy, tan 1 1/2 finger head. Black, slightly opaque body w/ hints of ruby.

Smell had sweet, roasted malts. Hints of licorice as well.

Taste had nice chocolate notes. Slightly grainy. Subtle roasted malt flavors. Very mild in bitterness along with a nice mild malt sweetness. A nice balance of flavors overall.

Mouthfeel was surprising light in body. Low in carbonation.

Drinkability was very good. Nice and light, well balanced.

Great tasting porter. Very well balanced.

Serving type: bottle

02-10-2009 00:22:00 | More by riored4v
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drizzam

Wisconsin

4.1/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Found this at a local store the other day...the label says "ARGANG 2004". Not sure if that means this is '04 vintage or what. I guess we'll see if this is any good. (Poured into my favorite Stone nonic)

A - Opaque dark brown body topped by a one finger tan fluffy head. Decent head retention and moderate lacing.

S - Sweet caramel malt and toffee seems to be the dominant aromas here. Not highly aromatic but it does smell very nice.

T & M - That same caramel malt provides the backbone for this brew, with a hint of milk chocolate and some minor hop bitterness toward the back end. This actually reminds me a bit of a milk stout, as there seems to be a bit of lactose present and lingering throughout. Medium bodied with a bit of a creamy mouthfeel.

D - Very high drinkability factor. I'm not sure if this is 2004 vintage, but if it is it held up very nicely for the last 7 years! A 5.5% ABV brew should not have held up this nicely. Either way, a very nice example of the style.

Serving type: bottle

02-12-2011 02:57:32 | More by drizzam
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yen157

New Jersey

4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

2001: Black beer, only appears red nead the edges and bottom of the glass. Also, tan head goes away somewhat quickly. Nice toasted grain smell along with some caramel.
Hearty bodied beer, nice example of a heavy porter. Good use of dark malts. Charcoal burn grain flavor is present but very well intermingled with other tastes such as coffee and dark chocolate. Hops bitterness works closely with grain bitterness to keep beer from tasting sweet. Very smooth, creamy beer. Carbonation kept light so that it doesn't take attention away from this robust beer.

Serving type: bottle

11-11-2002 10:54:54 | More by yen157
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battlekow

Wisconsin

2.4/5  rDev -41.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 1.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Carnegie Stark Porter pours a flat garnet-tinged dark brown. Nose is way, way too "baltic" for me, by which I mean prunes are the only thing I detect, which makes the Stark Porter smell like some kind of evil Jamba Juice concoction. Taste has some echoes of the prunes, but not nearly as intense. Light toasted finish. Maybe it's just relative to the nose, but really doesn't taste like much, maybe like diluted grape or prune juice. Mouthfeel features absolutely no carbonation whatsoever, adding to the juice illusion, but is relatively thick. Overall, the Carnegie Stark Porter is a little gross in some areas and not really there in the rest.

I think "Årgång 1997" means that this is from 1997--that can't have helped.

Serving type: bottle

10-16-2005 21:34:43 | More by battlekow
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Beerzebub

California

4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2006 bottle, 16.9 fl. oz., served in a large wine glass at 57 F/ 14 C.

Very dark reddish brown color, tan head that goes away, lace in thicks rings and blots.

Soft smooth smell of coffee, dark chocolate, buttery toffee, caramel, roasted nuts, and a bit of some spicy grassy/herbal hops.

Smooth taste of medium roast coffee, toffee, caramel, honey, nuts, and fresh spicy grassy/herbal hop flavor. Malt sweetness and hop bitterness are each moderate but noticeable, and balance each other quite well. Roast and honey linger for a dry finish. Very tasty.

Super smooth creamy texture, excellent. Very smooth, highly drinkable.

Good beer. I liked this.

Serving type: bottle

02-19-2008 08:03:02 | More by Beerzebub
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Brian700

Michigan

4.3/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This beer pours a very dark brown with basically very little to no head. The smell makes up for the lack of head. I must admit that
I pre-judged this beer by its average appearance before trying it.

The smell is roasty and chocolatey but it also has fruit notes present. It smells like there are plums or dates there as well. It's a nice blend and adds complexity to this brew.

The flavor follows the nose on this beer because it to is roasty and chocolatey but it is blended with the fruity flavor of raisins and dates. Very tasty indeed.

The mouthfeel is good. Medium carbonation and medium body. This is a very drinkable beer. I like it alot and will probably be going back to the store to pick up a few more of these. It is kind of pricey considering that the bottles are only 8.82 fl. oz. None the less I highly recommend trying this one.

Serving type: bottle

08-03-2005 00:50:50 | More by Brian700
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FLAbeergutinMASS

Massachusetts

3.93/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A great Porter from Europe. This beer best characteristic is its smell. Huge wafting musty boldness from this one. Big chocolate maltiness, a little stale, but not a bad stale. Finishes dry on the tongue, powdery chocolate, semi-sweet and bitter.

Europeon Porters, IMO are much more complex then theri American counter-parts. Not as wild, or original, but but more solid. A good beer that comes in a bottle that is too small.

Serving type: bottle

09-21-2006 02:48:01 | More by FLAbeergutinMASS
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obywan59

Virginia

2.75/5  rDev -33.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

From a 16 oz. bottle vintage 2004. Poured into my Guiness Porter pint glass. #5 of my Christmas mixed 6-pack. Best by May 2014.

Almost pitch black in the glass with a solid 4 finger mounding tannish head and a dollop of sweet foam trying to run down the side. Light lacing.

A somewhat metallic aroma, or perhaps one of acidic coffee and moldy books. After it warms a bit a more pleasant aroma of malt appears, like sweet coffee and moldy books.

Tastes a bit flat. Roast malt and moldy books. Some bitter dark chocolate.

Decent medium-thick mouthfeel. No real bite of carbonation. Some faint warming alcohol.

Even with the aroma and flavor of moldy books predominating, this was rather easy to drink. Perhaps this bottle was stored improperly. It didn't taste skunked, but there certainly seemed to be some degradation here.

Serving type: bottle

01-18-2011 04:57:06 | More by obywan59
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ricke

Sweden

3.25/5  rDev -21.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

2009 vintage.

A: Dark brown with a tanned head that settles into some lacings.

S: Smooth malts, rye bread, caramel and notes of vinous fruits. A hint of coffee. The taste is somewhat mild and restrained, but rather good.

T: The taste is mostly sweet with bready malts to the fore. Notes of vinous fruits, wood and a hint of coffee. Faint note of chocolate. The finish is rather short with a minimal bitterness, mineral notes, wood and malty sweetness.

M: Medium body. The carbonation is of the sort you most often find in mass produced fizzy lagers.

D: This is a good beer, but no more. I like the vinous and fruity character it showcases. But it's kind of restrained, both in terms of aromas and flavors, and it lacks complexity, and in my opinion, its reputation as one of the best porters in the world is greatly exaggerated. Perhaps it once was, but the way the brewery has treated this classic beer during the last decade is embarrassing.

Serving type: bottle

08-15-2009 12:40:22 | More by ricke
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BigOldOaf

Massachusetts

3.25/5  rDev -21.1%

01-15-2014 03:09:34 | More by BigOldOaf
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AudioGilz

Pennsylvania

4.33/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

It's very dark, close to opaque with ruby highlights. A large fluffy tan head forms and then reduces to a small ring pretty quickly. I can't get a strong aroma out of it, just some chocolate and coffee. But drinking this is miles better than smelling. Strong roasted coffee comes through first, some dark fruits, alcohol warmth, and then slightly bitter bakers chocolate through the finish and aftertaste. It's thick, creamy, rich, and robust. It's only 5.5% ABV but the alcohol adds a certain character that kind of tricks you into thinking it's stronger. A kick ass porter from Sweden to say the least.

Serving type: bottle

05-16-2003 21:24:42 | More by AudioGilz
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Bonis

Ohio

4/5  rDev -2.9%

02-19-2014 23:00:51 | More by Bonis
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MJR

Missouri

4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

1998 Vintage.

Appearance: Pours an opaque black body with lots of huge bubbles pretending to be a head. The bubbles don't last long and I'm left with what appears to be a glass of oil...in other words, it looks yummy!

Smell: Has a complex aroma of coffee, chocolate, roasted grains, and malted milk balls. There's the faintest scent of green hops.

Taste: Fairly sweet with a lot going on. Like the smell, the flavor is quite complex with the attention being shared by burnt, roasted grains, rich chocolate, mollasses, coffee that's been sitting for a while, and malted milk balls...that's right, Whoppers! Interesting! Finishes with a slight hop flavor, not bitterness really, but a distinct 'green' flavor.

Mouthfeel: Well, the carbonation's mostly gone, but it's doesn't really feel flat. It's got a medium thickness body with an oily, wet mouthfeel.

Drinkability: Give me a newer bottle with all of it's full carbonation and I could drink this all night. This is a fantastic porter, but not so complex as to limit the drinker to one or two.

Serving type: bottle

02-04-2003 15:57:45 | More by MJR
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Zimbo

United Kingdom (Scotland)

4.5/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 Vintage

Ingmar Bergman, Strindberg, Peter Forsberg, Michael Thelvin and Abba use to come to mind when I thought of Sweden's contribution to civilization. Now I have to include the astounding Carnegie Porter as well having just polished off a bottle in short work.

Poured partially into an ISO tasting glass with the lion's share in a high tumbler.

Lovely soft dark chocolately roasty nose. Pours a dark brown black which while perhaps not a crystal clear in colour as I might have expected but gives a deep brown shine at the bottom of the glass. Slick slightly rocky tan head.

Beautiful smooth roasty chocolate-like taste to start. Velvety suave medium firm body. Effortlessly luscious but controlled chocolate and wonderfully succulent. Classy, firm, restrained, luxurious, complete.

Undoubtedly benchmark porter. Class in a glass. Let the prostrating begin.

Serving type: bottle

03-09-2011 19:33:26 | More by Zimbo
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xav33

Michigan

3.4/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Revisit #1

D. Carnegie & Co. Stark Porter
8.82 Fl Oz bottle (size?)
Argang 1997, absorbed 09/06
Medium pour in a tulip glass.

Poured black with some faint brown highlights. Absolutely no head or carbonation.

Smelt of strong molasses, raisins, smoke, roasted grain, moderate vinous alcoholic qualities.

Taste was upfront strong bitter stale bread, cardboard, and cobwebs with light molasses and dried plum sweetness followed by a moderate bitter cobwebs, tar, hazelnut and yeast bitterness and light molasses sweetness on a light moderate length finish.

Palate was light to medium bodied, oily to a dry finish, barely any carbonation, just a slight tingle on the palate, and lightly astringent.

Overall, it definitely tastes old. It's very interesting how it developed, although there is definitely a stale bread flavor. It aged nicely and is very interesting to try, with very subdued, balanced and intriguing new flavors. Past its prime though. Still enjoyable.

Serving type: bottle

06-22-2007 03:53:31 | More by xav33
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Realale

Missouri

4.18/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

1998 version, but purchased in 2002.

Deep reddish brown, with definite black overtones. No head at all - just little wisps of foam.

Nose is licorice, but the really good yeasty, bready kind of licorice. Supporting date and raisin notes as well.

Very malty on the palate. Lots of licorice again, but nice acidity and bitterness add complexity and keep the residual sweetness from becoming cloying. An interesting take on a Porter.

Serving type: bottle

12-12-2002 18:47:21 | More by Realale
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Beer-A-Lot

Virginia

3.63/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Poured into pint.

A - Dark brown, nice 1-finger head.

S - Some roasty and bitter aromas. Very appealing.

T - Pretty smooth. But a bit watery and light (obviously with low abv).

M - Not a lot of body. In no way off-putting, just a little weak.

O - I had hoped to like this more, but it was only slightly above average. Maybe I'll give it a chance again in the future. After a long, tough day, it could be my palate is messed up. Others seem to like it more, so it's worth a try. Not bad, just not that great. (And I love the Swedes.)

Serving type: bottle

11-14-2012 03:29:50 | More by Beer-A-Lot
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Reappropriated

California

3.5/5  rDev -15%

08-30-2013 05:06:27 | More by Reappropriated
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neorunner

Virginia

4.35/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Great Lakes snifter. Medium thick creamy head dispersed with large bubbles. Chocolate black in color with no visible carbonation. Aroma is a strong almond note and some fusel alcohol. Mouthfeel is creamy just a touch above thin, definitely not a stout. Finish is dry across the tongue and and on the roof of the mouth. Flavor is a good subtle roast with a mellow chocolate flavor.

Serving type: bottle

02-08-2011 03:09:00 | More by neorunner
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AApparel

California

5/5  rDev +21.4%

11-26-2011 05:16:45 | More by AApparel
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PartyBear

United Kingdom (England)

4.45/5  rDev +8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Pure black body, with a thick creamy head.

S - The first thing that hit me was an inviting warm liquorish smell, that seemed to linger. There was also a scent of sweet molasses, and a faint chocolate coming through.

T - The warm liquorish that dominated the smell comes through with authority in the taste. It's also somewhat creamy with a hint of chocolate.

M - This is without a doubt full bodied, and it has the taste to pull it off. There is a strong dry persistent aftertaste.

D - This is a heavy porter, with a powerful aftertaste. Put simply this is an awesome brew, and needs to be tried. I will definitely be stocking up a few of these to be drinking over winter.

Serving type: bottle

07-21-2009 16:27:40 | More by PartyBear
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DESTRO

Nevada

4.7/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

whoa nelly. 16.9oz bottle, 2001 vintage. pours dark, pretty damn close to pitch black. lovely lace and lively carbonation. one whiff of this and its heaven, big sweet aromas of raisins and maple syrup, molasses and chocolates with some coffee undertones. nice roasted flavors kick things off without being overkill and then comes the sweet candies and raisins, a touch of vanilla and a bit smoke all coming courtesy of a slick smooth mouthfeel and you cant help but get stoked. also, the more it warms the more the alcohol kick becomes evident. almost too drinkable. "THE" porter as far as i am concerned. oh snaps!

paid $1.99 for a 16.9oz bottle.

Serving type: bottle

12-08-2003 23:13:07 | More by DESTRO
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rkhaze

California

4.8/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Poured a really dark chestnut color. Small, quickly disappating tan head.
Deep classic aromas of sweet roasted malt, coffee and dark chocolate.
Big complex rich flavors of earthy, heavily roasted malt, coffee, bittersweet chocolate and smidges of cola and licorice. It had a tangy sweetness and finished mildly acidic with a pleasant hop bitterness and a whisper of tobacco. Good stuff! Let this one warm up a bit.
Medium bodied with a full, creamy and chewy mouthfeel. Good amount of carbonation.
Excellent beer and supreme drinkability!

Serving type: bottle

05-22-2004 00:11:14 | More by rkhaze
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Swervine44

California

4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

03-29-2012 03:56:43 | More by Swervine44
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 459 ratings.