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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

481 Ratings
THE BROS
100
world-class

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Ratings: 481
Reviews: 328
rAvg: 4.12
pDev: 10.92%
Wants: 48
Gots: 23 | FT: 2
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes/Commercial Description:
First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".

(Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001)
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Photo of francisweizen
4.22/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, best by April 2010. Cost me like $5 at my local store...way overpriced, I know. Anyway this was a nice strong porter. It poured a deep black colour with a tan/beige head of foam. The aromas were all deep roasted chocolate and caramel malts with some lovely citric hops in the background and on the finish. The taste was similar to the aromas with some lovely roasted malts and hops blending together for a nice chocolatey/caramely taste of wonder. The mouthfeel was creamy, thick, and almost "chewy" and the drinkability is damn good as well!

francisweizen, Jan 02, 2004
Photo of mrfrancis
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

mrfrancis, Jun 28, 2013
Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.83/5  rDev -7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Årgång 1997.
Sampled at 9 Years Old.

Presentation: It’s been a long time since I tried this dark sexy Swedish number, so when I saw a petit 1997 bottle of this one, I fancied taking it for a ride again. This shrunken Scandinavian has a rather striking look despite its rather demure 8.82 fluid ounce sample size.

Appearance: This aged sample has a very, very, very dark black body. Utterly impervious it looks like a glass of tar once the fading tan head completely disappears. The flat look does little to offer any excitement and the absence of any conditioning is derisory. Still, this does have an appeal, like a stripped bare knuckle fighter you get to see this one devoid of any fancy-schmancy pomp and circumstance.

Nose: Fading in strength from fresher samples if my ailing memory serves me well. Dark chocolate, roasted coffee, sweet molasses and smoked charcoal. A soft background has a rich texture but is low to the punch.

Taste: Smoky beginnings, molasses and a light chocolate darkness with a bitter trait. This has mellowed out from earlier offerings with a younger vintage but a rewarding brew nonetheless. Roasted feel remains and a light hint of Smoky Bacon punctuates the lingering finish.

Mouthfeel: Thinning body has a creamy feel despite its low conditioning. The body has a solid depth but tends to wax and wane and it can feel a little depleted at times, but never anything less than above average.

Drinkability: Only had 8.82 fluid ounces – but it was an enjoyable sipper.

Overall: First brewed in 1836, but it seems that at nearly ten years old this one tends to loose all conditioning and starts to thin out, though the complexity remains and the depth of taste still excites. Remains a high quality sipping Baltic Porter but I prefer this one a little younger.

TheLongBeachBum, Nov 10, 2006
Photo of popery
4.72/5  rDev +14.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage.

A: Very good looking beer, particularly for a porter with a few years on it. Black liquid with a nice foamy head and plenty of lacing.

S: Interesting smell. It's probably a bit weaker but more complex now than it was fresh. There are notes of sweet stone fruit and roasted malt. It's interesting, but it doesn't have the punch of some porters.

T: The taste is incredible at this point. It's sweet, roasty and fruity. The flavor is exceptionally well-melded and balanced. It's an excellent porter that has aged incredibly. I like that there's still good bitterness. The hops have mostly dropped out, but it's never cloying or overly sweet.

M: Creamy and smooth.

D: Extremely easy to drink. You can't make a beer taste this way without the aid of time. The feel and flavor are just right. This beer has surprised me greatly. I was expecting disappointment but received just the opposite.

3/20/2010 - Still awesome.

popery, Apr 05, 2009
Photo of rudzud
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottle. Picked up on a whim from Julio's Liquors. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a deep dark almost black hue with a creamy almost two finger mocha head that fades to leave minimal side lacing but nice clouding.

S - Not bad aromas here. Predominantly roast malts and chocolate notes. Slight metalic aromas though.

T - Pretty good flavours. More subtle than usual, good deep rich roasted malts and light chocolate. Very smooth.

M - Quite smooth and creamy with just a little bit of carbonation. Feels slightly thin though.

O - Overall, this isnt a bad baltic porter. I wouldn't buy it again though as there are some great represenations of this style elsewhere.

rudzud, Aug 01, 2011
Photo of BGsWo22
3.25/5  rDev -21.1%

BGsWo22, Mar 21, 2013
Photo of DmanGTR
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

DmanGTR, Feb 05, 2013
Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a blackish body w/ good head and minimal lace ring w/ a slightly dry roasted, coffeesue malt aroma, even bready, as well as little sticky sweetness. More of the same w/ the beer as it is lighter bodied, minimal carbonation so it passes smooth and easy, almost creamy, w/ sweet caramel, cocoa and a touch of vanilla (maybe) along with a little dry malt taste (roasted or coffee, or something like bread/dough/yeast). Simplistic and not overwhelming but well-crafted and a great sipper to have after a meal.

clayrock81, Mar 23, 2011
Photo of cokes
4.4/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Condemned in 2001. No chance of salvation until April 2010.

The crimson blackness is ringed with a small brown foam.
Nose is ripped apart with winged plums, and malts singed with the fires of Hades.

Taste begins the descent:

At the First Gate, torturous black malts wail with a sizzling harsh sweetness.
The Second Gate beacons with undying Grapes wallowing in their Earthly sins.
Past the Third Gate, Roasted Barley screams for forgiveness.
The Forth Gate smolders with an unholy smokiness, strapped to its device of oaken, woody horror.
The Fifth Gate exibits chocolate malt contorted in an obscene manner, pleading for mercy, as the poker is jabbed to its ribs.
Gate #6 contains plums, too lustful in life to exist elsewhere.
Beyond the stone-hued Seventh Gate is a sulfurous surge of reduced coffee that emits fumes of pure decadence.
The buttery whimpering of diacetyl lie past the Eight Gate, Joined with an acidic bawl.
The final gate, Number 9, is a raisin-drenched screech of alcohol-drowned dark fruit pain and suffering.

The deliciousness of pure wickedness unfolds. But the malice is less full than expected.
Nevertheless, it is a vice that can be indulged en masse.

Truly devilish.

cokes, Mar 18, 2003
Photo of whartontallboy
4/5  rDev -2.9%

whartontallboy, Apr 14, 2012
Photo of AngusOg
4/5  rDev -2.9%

AngusOg, Mar 12, 2013
Photo of jophish17
4.5/5  rDev +9.2%

jophish17, Dec 05, 2011
Photo of mynie
3.93/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Quite the pour. Ruby hues, not opaque, but pretty close, and with one hell of a brown, rocky, retentive head. The kind of huge bubbles that make you slow down pouring about half the way through because you're not expecting them, and you know they're gonna stick around a while.

Smells like very intense roasted malt. Very bitter with nodes of coffee grounds. Maybe a little old--scents of fruit come through, as well. Nice, though.

Big bitter malt, big black coffee. Burst of alcohol (strange from a 5.5%!) in the middle, more bitter malts and the end, big fruit sweetness lingering. Tastes a tiny bit stale, but the back sez, I'm not kidding, "Best Before May 2014." That kind of hubris can cost you, sonny.

Good beer. Probably even better fresh. If only they included a realistic dating system...

mynie, Jun 11, 2006
Photo of KarlHungus
4.47/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This beer pours a nearly opaque black color. The head is two inches in height, and recedes very slowly into a one inch cap of lacing. This is a very sexy looking beer. The aroma roasted malt, cream, and a lot of black licorice. The taste is mostly of black licorice, with hints of cream and black malt. There is a firm roasted malt bitterness in the finish. The mouthfeel is medium bodied with moderate carbonation, and a smooth texture. Overall, this is a very good beer that I will definitely drink again.

KarlHungus, Oct 21, 2010
Photo of Gmann
3.18/5  rDev -22.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a dark brown color with a frothy khaki colored head that settled into a solid ring.

The aroma is of a lightly bready malt, milky and grainy. Some sterile roast notes and an overall tin like scent.

The malt is mostly grainy with a slight roast edge. Subtle metallic notes with an interesting lemon note. Some light caramel and toffee sweetness. Overall, a bit thin for a baltic porter.

The feel is light, though not watery, with some prickly carbonation. Grainy sweet on the palate with not much of a bitter offset. Drinks easy I guess.

Not super impressed with this beer. Basically a notch or two above a dark Euro lager. Definitely not a baltic porter in my eyes.

Gmann, Feb 05, 2012
Photo of smartassboiler
4/5  rDev -2.9%

smartassboiler, Sep 12, 2013
Photo of Reagan1984
3.75/5  rDev -9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Big thanks to Masterski for providing this in a recent trade. Alex is a good man.

Very creamy 2+ finger of beige head sits atop this beer. It slowly collapses but takes it's time and shows excellent retention. The beer is almost as black as an Imperial Stout. Help to a bright light you get some slight light coming through. Nice sheets of lacing.

Aroma is malty, caramel and a whiff of alcohol which is strange since it's only 5.5%.

Roasted malt and chocolate notes dominate here. A slight molasses flavor as well. Somewhat musty as well. Perhaps a little licorice here.

Fairly thick bodied and dry on your tongue. A slight dry or powder like feeling on your tongue. A little abv heat which again is strange at 5.5%.

The end of the flavor is slightly abrupt which cuts down on the drinkability for me. It's good and you can't say it's watery, but still the flavor ends quickly.

Reagan1984, Oct 24, 2010
Photo of lordofthewiens
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you to Chris at Ebenezer's Pub for getting me to try this. I probably never would have had this without his recommendation. It was a nice dark black with a thick coffee-colored head. A coffee, chocolate aroma. The taste only enhanced what I smelled, and this had to have been the smoothest porter I've ever tried. Indescribable, all those great dark tastes running around in my mouth. You gotta try this beer!

lordofthewiens, Oct 25, 2006
Photo of hopdog
3.58/5  rDev -13.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Bottle labeled Argang 1997.

Poured a dark black color with almost no head - what head was there was an off white. Aromas of chocolate and licorice . Lighter tastes. Very light coffee on top of the chocolate. Some roastiness too.

Notes from: 12/30/04

hopdog, Jan 18, 2009
Photo of Gagnonsux
4.03/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage. Color is pitch black with a large, tan head. The aroma is rather light and has an earthy malt smell. The taste of of earthy malts with a roasted edge. Coffee and chocolate are noted. Finish is sweet and stays with you. A nice hop body provides complexity and balance. Very good porter here, definently would like this one in my fridge again.

Gagnonsux, Apr 26, 2005
Photo of Brent
4/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2001 Vintage. Black with some ruby tinge. Of the Baltic porters I've had so far, this is both the lightest flavored and lowest abv. Some very mild oxidation flavor present in the first few sips, but after the beer warmed it faded, or I just got used to it. Sharply sweet candy-ish aroma, almost surprising when the beer does not turn out to be particularly sweet in flavor. Carmelized fig and prune flavors, but in moderation. Finishes with a bit a acidity that cleans up nicely and leaves a pleasant sour bitterness at the roof of the mouth. Not really a fireside sipper like other Baltics, but overall more drinkable than its bretheren.

Brent, Oct 24, 2003
Photo of canucklehead
3.63/5  rDev -11.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a 1997 bottle from Archer's Ale House in Bellingham. The beer was black as black with minimal head. The nose was winy and old fruity. The taste was aged and vinous with the burnt malts in the background. I felt that this bottle was maybe too old as the midbody seemed slightly hollow. I know that this beer can be cellared eventhough it is only 5.5% but I feel the low abv may have let some of the bigger flavours dissipate. I enjoyed this beer but wanted a bigger set of flavours.

canucklehead, Apr 26, 2005
Photo of MSandahl23
4.25/5  rDev +3.2%

MSandahl23, Sep 09, 2014
Photo of jfcaa193
4/5  rDev -2.9%

jfcaa193, Feb 18, 2012
Photo of Suds
4.43/5  rDev +7.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

This is simply an wonderful beer. Thick, velvety, chewy and portraying a wide range of roast malt flavors.
Color is solid black. Not really an impressive head, but what there is does dissolve into whispy, lace-producing clumps.
The aroma really doesn't match up with the extraordinary taste. Slight smoky, burnt/roast grain aroma, but it's not an in-your-face smell. The flavors do, however, come on strong with the first sip.
Full, impressive mouthfeel.
There's a background of a nice-hop bitterness that doesn't quite match the sweet malt, but the do play off one another nicely.
The bottom line is that this is one very good beer.

Suds, May 11, 2003
Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 481 ratings.