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Carnegie Porter 5,5% - Carlsberg Sverige AB

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

521 Ratings
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Ratings: 521
Reviews: 338
rAvg: 4.11
pDev: 10.71%
Wants: 51
Gots: 27 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
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Sweden

Style | ABV
Baltic Porter |  5.50% ABV

Availability: Year-round

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: BeerAdvocate on 02-04-2001

First introduced in 1836.

Strong beers were banned in Sweden 1923-1956.

The 5.5 % original recipe was re-introduced in 1985 as a beer fermented with both top and bottom yeast.

In 1993, the yeast was changed to a single bottom-fermenting strain.

In 2009, the label design and name was changed from "Carnegie Stark-Porter" to "Carnegie Porter".
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Ratings: 521 | Reviews: 338
Photo of AngusOg
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of BeerForMuscle
4.3/5  rDev +4.6%

Photo of Cyberkedi
4.1/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Aroma is malty, smoky and slightly yeasty with a good undertone of fine coffee and molasses. It pours a dark chocolate brown with a thick pale beige head that is fine-bubbled and fairly persistent. Flavor is malty and mocha-ish with just a whisper of sweetness. Texture is smooth and lively though not as thick as that of some other stouts.

Photo of WOLFGANG
4.03/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Bottle states that this beer cellars well. Best before April 2010.

Dark pitch coloring with hint of ruby red at the bottom of the glass. Beautiful billowing creamy head atop its light bending opaqueness. Head disapates leaving minimal lacing.

Incredible smells of roasted malt, coffee, dark chocolate, and dark fruits. Mmm.

Tastes like a chocolate latte. Add a smoky bitterness toward the end and there it is. Somewhat simple, but that doesn't detract from the great taste. Medium profile could be a little thicker, IMHO.


Easy drinking, low ABV beer which would be excellent for the months ahead. A good beer. Only one I had though. I'll have to replenish my supply.

Photo of MSandahl23
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of Gagnonsux
4.01/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2004 vintage. Color is pitch black with a large, tan head. The aroma is rather light and has an earthy malt smell. The taste of of earthy malts with a roasted edge. Coffee and chocolate are noted. Finish is sweet and stays with you. A nice hop body provides complexity and balance. Very good porter here, definently would like this one in my fridge again.

Photo of OWSLEY069
3.21/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours black with a nice tan head. Aromas that are a small caramel sweetness. In the taste, a dry malt, with hints of chocolate and a nice coffee presence. A smooth, dry sticky mouthfeel and a dry malty aftertaste. Nice smoothness and flavor, a very enjoyable porter.

Photo of rudzud
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

2010 bottle. Picked up on a whim from Julio's Liquors. Poured into my Duvel tulip.

A - Pours a deep dark almost black hue with a creamy almost two finger mocha head that fades to leave minimal side lacing but nice clouding.

S - Not bad aromas here. Predominantly roast malts and chocolate notes. Slight metalic aromas though.

T - Pretty good flavours. More subtle than usual, good deep rich roasted malts and light chocolate. Very smooth.

M - Quite smooth and creamy with just a little bit of carbonation. Feels slightly thin though.

O - Overall, this isnt a bad baltic porter. I wouldn't buy it again though as there are some great represenations of this style elsewhere.

Photo of pathman
4.75/5  rDev +15.6%

Photo of tavernjef
4.62/5  rDev +12.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Feloniousmonk was nice enough to break out his last bottle of the 2001 vintage, thanks - this was quite worth it.

Color is dark brown with deep amber highlights with a pinky-finger high head of bumpy, lumpy dark ivory crown, no real lace qualities. Smell is of dark fruits - banana, starfruit, and mixes well with some real quaility darkened caramel sweetness from malts with a notes in toffeeness. Taste is soooo smooth of caramel, lots of maltyness, some great small bitterness of dark citrusy hops noting on banana and orange, notes of toffee, maple syrup, and a even a touch of chocolate lightly making an appearance in there, quite a nice subtle mixing in this offering. Very full bodied with an enormous amount of exceptional creamyness that just slides down making a home in every area of your senses. Wow, this was one great little amount of fun, so sad to see the last sip go.
Thanks again FM!

Photo of clayrock81
4/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a blackish body w/ good head and minimal lace ring w/ a slightly dry roasted, coffeesue malt aroma, even bready, as well as little sticky sweetness. More of the same w/ the beer as it is lighter bodied, minimal carbonation so it passes smooth and easy, almost creamy, w/ sweet caramel, cocoa and a touch of vanilla (maybe) along with a little dry malt taste (roasted or coffee, or something like bread/dough/yeast). Simplistic and not overwhelming but well-crafted and a great sipper to have after a meal.

Photo of smartassboiler
4/5  rDev -2.7%

Photo of RoyalT
3.77/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Appearance – Very dark in color with a nice, tanned head that showed decent retention and left a little lacing.

Smell – This aroma is nice. There’s some good coffee and chocolate notes to go along with the classic roasted malts. I can also pick up small traces of cocoa, anise, molasses, and some kind of sugar (maybe pure cane).

Taste – The smaller notes from the nose came out bigger at the taste. The chocolate and anise were prominent, but the molasses all but disappeared. This is not a super-dark porter; it’s more of a lighter one in the classic sense.

Mouthfeel – This was medium-bodied. I thought the mouthfeel was the weak point of the porter. The flavors were kind of clumsy and could maybe benefit from cellaring.

Drinkability – This went great with my Stoned Bratwurst and sauerkraut.

Comments – I had the 2001 vintage. Even though it is going on three years old I would recommend cellaring this for another three. I’m not a big “cellaring” fan but I think the flavors here just need some more time to get to know each other.

Photo of mrfrancis
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

Photo of st9647v3
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of Darkmagus82
4.05/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Poured from bottle into a pint glass

Appearance – The beer pours a dark brown color with two fingers of a cream colored head. The head has a good level of retention, slowly fading to leave a great level of foamy lace on the sides of the glass.

Smell – The aroma of the beer is quite heavy of a sweeter molasses and caramel smell along with some other nice roasty notes. Along with these smells comes some darker fruit aromas of prune and plum as well as some other aromas of chocolate and a little bit of a grainy smell.

Taste – The taste begins with a smooth and sweet taste with lots of caramel and chocolate mixed with a little bit of a dark fruit flavors of plum and prune. Other notes of a roasted malt taste are also present upfront, creating a nice smooth base flavor for the brew. As the taste advances the fruit fades a little bit all while more and more caramel and chocolate as well as some molasses comes to the tongue. With a hint of vanilla and a tiny bit of an herbal flavor coming at the very end, one is left with a sweet and smooth, roasty flavor to linger on the tongue.

Mouthfeel – The body of the beer is on the average side in terms of its thickness and creaminess with a carbonation level that is on the slightly lower side. For the porter style and the darker but sweet flavors of the brew, the feel is rather nice and makes for a flavorful, but easy drinking porter overall.

Overall – This is a very nice easy drinking porter at of only 5.5 %. A quite tasty brew overall and one to try if you have the opportunity.

Photo of francisweizen
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

2001 vintage, best by April 2010. Cost me like $5 at my local store...way overpriced, I know. Anyway this was a nice strong porter. It poured a deep black colour with a tan/beige head of foam. The aromas were all deep roasted chocolate and caramel malts with some lovely citric hops in the background and on the finish. The taste was similar to the aromas with some lovely roasted malts and hops blending together for a nice chocolatey/caramely taste of wonder. The mouthfeel was creamy, thick, and almost "chewy" and the drinkability is damn good as well!

Photo of ArrogantB
3.36/5  rDev -18.2%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3

11.2oz bottle $3.99. I remember reading this was a classic porter so why not. Black with a filmy head that laces the glass. Aroma is yeast and dough. Flavor is slightly smoky, roast malts, touch of chocolate. Not my favorite but not bad, worth a try.

Photo of TheLongBeachBum
3.8/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Årgång 1997.
Sampled at 9 Years Old.

Presentation: It’s been a long time since I tried this dark sexy Swedish number, so when I saw a petit 1997 bottle of this one, I fancied taking it for a ride again. This shrunken Scandinavian has a rather striking look despite its rather demure 8.82 fluid ounce sample size.

Appearance: This aged sample has a very, very, very dark black body. Utterly impervious it looks like a glass of tar once the fading tan head completely disappears. The flat look does little to offer any excitement and the absence of any conditioning is derisory. Still, this does have an appeal, like a stripped bare knuckle fighter you get to see this one devoid of any fancy-schmancy pomp and circumstance.

Nose: Fading in strength from fresher samples if my ailing memory serves me well. Dark chocolate, roasted coffee, sweet molasses and smoked charcoal. A soft background has a rich texture but is low to the punch.

Taste: Smoky beginnings, molasses and a light chocolate darkness with a bitter trait. This has mellowed out from earlier offerings with a younger vintage but a rewarding brew nonetheless. Roasted feel remains and a light hint of Smoky Bacon punctuates the lingering finish.

Mouthfeel: Thinning body has a creamy feel despite its low conditioning. The body has a solid depth but tends to wax and wane and it can feel a little depleted at times, but never anything less than above average.

Drinkability: Only had 8.82 fluid ounces – but it was an enjoyable sipper.

Overall: First brewed in 1836, but it seems that at nearly ten years old this one tends to loose all conditioning and starts to thin out, though the complexity remains and the depth of taste still excites. Remains a high quality sipping Baltic Porter but I prefer this one a little younger.

Photo of popery
4.68/5  rDev +13.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

2006 Vintage.

A: Very good looking beer, particularly for a porter with a few years on it. Black liquid with a nice foamy head and plenty of lacing.

S: Interesting smell. It's probably a bit weaker but more complex now than it was fresh. There are notes of sweet stone fruit and roasted malt. It's interesting, but it doesn't have the punch of some porters.

T: The taste is incredible at this point. It's sweet, roasty and fruity. The flavor is exceptionally well-melded and balanced. It's an excellent porter that has aged incredibly. I like that there's still good bitterness. The hops have mostly dropped out, but it's never cloying or overly sweet.

M: Creamy and smooth.

D: Extremely easy to drink. You can't make a beer taste this way without the aid of time. The feel and flavor are just right. This beer has surprised me greatly. I was expecting disappointment but received just the opposite.

3/20/2010 - Still awesome.

Photo of DmanGTR
4.25/5  rDev +3.4%

Photo of cokes
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Condemned in 2001. No chance of salvation until April 2010.

The crimson blackness is ringed with a small brown foam.
Nose is ripped apart with winged plums, and malts singed with the fires of Hades.

Taste begins the descent:

At the First Gate, torturous black malts wail with a sizzling harsh sweetness.
The Second Gate beacons with undying Grapes wallowing in their Earthly sins.
Past the Third Gate, Roasted Barley screams for forgiveness.
The Forth Gate smolders with an unholy smokiness, strapped to its device of oaken, woody horror.
The Fifth Gate exibits chocolate malt contorted in an obscene manner, pleading for mercy, as the poker is jabbed to its ribs.
Gate #6 contains plums, too lustful in life to exist elsewhere.
Beyond the stone-hued Seventh Gate is a sulfurous surge of reduced coffee that emits fumes of pure decadence.
The buttery whimpering of diacetyl lie past the Eight Gate, Joined with an acidic bawl.
The final gate, Number 9, is a raisin-drenched screech of alcohol-drowned dark fruit pain and suffering.

The deliciousness of pure wickedness unfolds. But the malice is less full than expected.
Nevertheless, it is a vice that can be indulged en masse.

Truly devilish.

Photo of lordofthewiens
4.4/5  rDev +7.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Thank you to Chris at Ebenezer's Pub for getting me to try this. I probably never would have had this without his recommendation. It was a nice dark black with a thick coffee-colored head. A coffee, chocolate aroma. The taste only enhanced what I smelled, and this had to have been the smoothest porter I've ever tried. Indescribable, all those great dark tastes running around in my mouth. You gotta try this beer!

Photo of mynie
3.93/5  rDev -4.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Quite the pour. Ruby hues, not opaque, but pretty close, and with one hell of a brown, rocky, retentive head. The kind of huge bubbles that make you slow down pouring about half the way through because you're not expecting them, and you know they're gonna stick around a while.

Smells like very intense roasted malt. Very bitter with nodes of coffee grounds. Maybe a little old--scents of fruit come through, as well. Nice, though.

Big bitter malt, big black coffee. Burst of alcohol (strange from a 5.5%!) in the middle, more bitter malts and the end, big fruit sweetness lingering. Tastes a tiny bit stale, but the back sez, I'm not kidding, "Best Before May 2014." That kind of hubris can cost you, sonny.

Good beer. Probably even better fresh. If only they included a realistic dating system...

Photo of jophish17
4.5/5  rDev +9.5%

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Carnegie Porter 5,5% from Carlsberg Sverige AB
92 out of 100 based on 521 ratings.