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Donder & Bliksem - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
85
very good

41 Ratings
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Ratings: 41
Reviews: 21
rAvg: 3.79
pDev: 15.3%
Wants: 2
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: ccrida on 06-28-2008)
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1/5  rDev -73.6%

cab, Nov 17, 2012
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3/5  rDev -20.8%

RBorsato, Mar 04, 2014
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3/5  rDev -20.8%

Kmat10, May 26, 2013
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3/5  rDev -20.8%

phishbone23, Jan 23, 2013
Photo of Bubba83
3.08/5  rDev -18.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter at 50 degrees. Very dark ruby/amber hue with some bright white head, two fingers width. Decent lacing and the head has pretty good retention as well...

Smells a little sour somehow, with some dark fruity plum aromas and indescript sugar.

Taste is not very complex, sugar plums up front, but not dancing in my head... Slight caramel and cherries. Tart flavors are here but rather indescript too.

Mouthfeel is decent, maybe a little too bubbly/lively for what I am used to. Could be a lot smoother across the tongue. Finishes pretty dry.

Just an okay dubbel overall, I thought the tart flavors might add an interesting dynamic, but unfortunately there just isn't that mich depth.

Bubba83, Mar 06, 2010
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3.25/5  rDev -14.2%

Barnsley, Apr 07, 2014
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3.5/5  rDev -7.7%

ygtbsm94, Jan 29, 2012
Photo of Gavage
3.55/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a cloudy brown color with a short tan head that falls to a spotty surface foam quickly.

Smell: very faint malt and fruit sweetness.

Taste: moderate malty profile with some prunes, red grapes, yeast, hint of pepper, moderate bitterness and a bit of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Short aftertaste here.

Drinkability: slower sipping Dubbel that is decent but not overwhelming. Worth a try.

Gavage, May 02, 2010
Photo of Sammy
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

USA version is aImperial pilsner, not a dubbel at all. Premiant and Saaz hops ar primary taste, drying hops, yet balanced not too bitter. Medium plus mouthfeel. A bit of spiciness in smell.Mild lime, like Perrier with better carbonation. Drinkable but a 750 ml. is too much.Decent of-white head.

Sammy, Nov 02, 2008
Photo of philipquarles
3.65/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

33cl bottle of the Dutch version--a strong pils at 5.9%, according to the label. BBD of 3/10. Pours quite cloudy and dark for a pils, with the most massive head I've seen on something purported to be a lager; like meringue. Plenty of sediment. Smells very floral and tropical fruity. A sweet background with some very light brown sugar. Tastes of bitter, aromatic hop up front, followed by earthiness and a lingering sweetness. Finishes dryly. Slightly oxidized, though still pretty good. Light-medium feel with too much carbonation. Interesting stuff.

philipquarles, Jul 16, 2009
Photo of glid02
3.75/5  rDev -1.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle out of the Brick Store cellar shared by a generous soul. 2007 vintage.

Pours a hazy purplish-amber color with a one-finger off-white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of robust medium malts with large amounts of boozy medium and dark fruits - pears, figs, and hints of raisins. Also present are hints of clove and brown sugar.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Moderately sweet medium malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by hints of spices. Midway through the sip the flavor profile turns toward fruit - mostly dried figs with hints of syrupy pears. The fruit flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I had no problems finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall I wasn't a huge fan of this beer as the flavors seemed thinner than they should have been given the aroma and mouthfeel. A decent beer for the style but one not worth seeking out.

glid02, Feb 17, 2011
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3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

ncaudle, Nov 30, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

djrn2, Nov 22, 2012
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3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

smithj4, Jan 13, 2013
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3.75/5  rDev -1.1%

afsdan, May 01, 2014
Photo of TMoney2591
3.78/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a St. Bernadus goblet.

The cork reads 2007, indicating some decent age. Wonder what the result is? Well, it certainly does not pour clearly; rather a dark, murky amber-brown that leans toward garnet-ness with the addition of light. A minor amount of off-white bubbles stands in for a head, but not for long. There's a heavy dose of wheat and flour in the nose, like a bakery prepping for some hard-core pasrty-makin'. Not much else, though there may be some walnuts or cashews hidden somewhere on the table. Luckily, there's quite a bit more goin' on in Flavor Country. There, loaves of rye bread are plentiful, walnuts literally grow on trees (...wait...), red apples are on sale, and molasses seems to drip from certain trees at certain times of day. A lovely country, no? Its carbon footprint is of average size, allowing development to continue unabated (though increasing taxes is beginning to slow the rate of development to a much more easily managed level).

TMoney2591, May 12, 2010
Photo of Mar02x
3.83/5  rDev +1.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The beer style wasn't mentioned on the label, so I don't know what to expect.

A - A clear golden beer with a decent white head, that slowly turns into a fluffy cream. The is some nice carbonation bubbles rushing up, always pleasant to see.

S - A real Pilsener smell of yeast and hops, not really in a pleasant way though.

T - Tones of flowers, grain and some pine which bring a bitter taste.

M - A soft to medium carbonation that fits the taste excellent, slightly creamy too.

O - A good ???, type of beer. The complexity is good and the body too. - Now I see it was supposed to be a Double. I never would have guessed it, because of the bright and clear color. Now that I know I can still appreciate it in the same manner though, maybe even more.

Mar02x, Dec 23, 2011
Photo of Radome
3.85/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served from bottle into a goblet.
A - 3.0 - Beer was a cloudy, opaque medium brown. It appeared deep orange when held up to the light. The head was tan colored and made up of thin, fairly large bubbles that looked soap-like.

S - 4.0 - A very nice, rich malt aroma with some roasted notes. There is alcohol in the background along with a sweet, wine-like character. It reminds me of a Russian Imperial Stout smell, but not as aggressive.

T - 4.0 - The taste is very malt-centric. Aside from malt, there is a little chocolate, roast flavor along with some mild hops flavor and even some wood character. There is also a sharp, slightly astringent taste in the finish that is reminiscent of a Flemish brown.

M - 4.0 - Slightly thin body with some mild alcohol burn. Very low carbonation. There is hops bitterness along with an almost vinegar-like astringency which I would guess comes from some wood-aging and souring.

D - 3.5 - This is an enjoyable beer with some characteristics of a Flemish brown, but having more hops and roasted grains than typical for that style.

Radome, Jun 20, 2010
Photo of PhillyStyle
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml corked bottle (dated 2.007?) into a mug (purchased at Green's on Buford, $14.99).

A: Poured a hazy brown with an moderatly thick, more than 2 finger pour, thanks to the carbonation, off-white/light brown head that dissolved fairly quickly. A thin layer of the head stayed throughout the drink.

S: The aroma was heavy on the malt with some hints of either cocoa or coffe and a slight hint of alcohol.

T: The beer had a good flavor to it. The malt of the dominate flavor, but it is also slighly sweet, with a twinge of alcohol and hops.

M/D: The beer was fairly rich and creamy with a more than fair amount of carbonation, but certainly not in a bad way. The aftertaste was bitter and slighly off-putting. Overall, a very good beer and one that I will buy again.

PhillyStyle, Jun 30, 2008
Photo of realmpel
3.9/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a nice dubbel, alive with butterscotch and raising flavors. Pours a nice chestnut brown with a thick head which lingereth on the side of the glass. This beer warms up nicely; give it time.

Not a complex beer, but a solid and great tasting dubbel.

realmpel, Jun 01, 2010
Photo of MarvinSnyder
3.93/5  rDev +3.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Notes from 6-23-10 - poured into a Brewer's Art goblet - 1 pt. 9.4 fl. oz cage corked bottle

Appearance: Pours a murky, chocolate brown. A full, creamy tan head fades to thin. This beer has light lacing that stays close to the head.

Smell: Aroma of sweet roasted malt, raisins, rum alcohol, walnuts, syrup, and brown sugar on the nose.

Taste: Roasted malt sweetness, rye (beer of the month says pumpernickel), chocolate, rum, and syrup. This beer has a dry finish with a nutty aftertaste, and the alcohol provides subtle warmth. Also, it has an element of acidity commonly found in old ales.

Mouthfeel: Low to moderate carbonation. This beer is light and thin over the palate but maintains a creamy feel.

Drinkability: A very drinkable and complex hybrid beer. This beer shares many good characteristics of several beer styles.

Comments: A beer of the month club selection. I am not sure of the vintage. Overall, a good beer that pushes the boundaries of the dubbel style.

MarvinSnyder, Jun 24, 2010
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3.98/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Enjoyed a 750ml corked bottle from the beer of the month club out of Lake Forest, CA. Smell is very leading into the sour initial taste and mouthfeel continues with a bit of a chalky sour apple texture. Shockingly increases in flavor as the bottle breathes and tongue recognizes the uniquesness of this complex brew. Drinkability doesn't feel comfortable at the beginning but comes around with the mouthfeel. Give it a shot if you can find it, I will do it again.

paigertx, Jun 09, 2010
Photo of metter98
3.98/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is very dark amber-brown in color. Although it only has a thin layer of bubbles in the head, there is a good amount of head retention, which gradually fades into nice lacing patterns.
S: There is a very strong aroma of caramel and lots of sweetness. There are also smells reminiscent of an English barleywine with notes of raisins and brown sugar.
T: There's a bit of overall sweetness in the taste, which has flavors of malty sweetness, but is much more subdued compared to the aroma.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate. The finish leaves a little dryness and some alcohol warmth.
D: The alcohol is very well masked so this is rather drinkable. I would definitely try this again--it's a unique "hybrid" beer that shares characteristics of a dubbel and an English barleywine.

metter98, May 14, 2010
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3.98/5  rDev +5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle poured into tulip 30/9/12

A slightly hazy amber with a nice tight tan finger of foam that hangs around long enough to leave a couple partial rings of lace

S caramel and toffee, bready malt, floral notes, honey and a little hay, smells like an EIPA or a strong Pilsner with a butterscotch twist

T much like the nose, reminds me of an English ale with some Czech lager, I rather like it but a Dubble? I think not. Biscuit and butterscotch with some grassy floral hops, rather interesting

M on the heavy side of medium, nice carbonation with dry cereal on the finish, slightly sticky on the lips

O not at all what I was expecting, I thought this was a Winter Warmer named after Santa’s Reindeer, solid stuff whatever it is

I was expecting spices and got English malt with Czech hops? I don’t get much off the label but I liked the beer inside

wordemupg, Oct 02, 2012
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4/5  rDev +5.5%

GRG1313, Apr 07, 2013
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Donder & Bliksem from Brouwerij De Molen
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