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Donder & Bliksem - Brouwerij De Molen

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85
very good

45 Ratings
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Ratings: 45
Reviews: 22
rAvg: 3.77
pDev: 14.59%
Wants: 2
Gots: 5 | FT: 0
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Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Dubbel |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: ccrida on 06-28-2008

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Ratings: 45 | Reviews: 22
Photo of Sammy
3.67/5  rDev -2.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

USA version is aImperial pilsner, not a dubbel at all. Premiant and Saaz hops ar primary taste, drying hops, yet balanced not too bitter. Medium plus mouthfeel. A bit of spiciness in smell.Mild lime, like Perrier with better carbonation. Drinkable but a 750 ml. is too much.Decent of-white head.

Photo of t0rin0
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of djrn2
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of metter98
4.02/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is very dark amber-brown in color. Although it only has a thin layer of bubbles in the head, there is a good amount of head retention, which gradually fades into nice lacing patterns.
S: There is a very strong aroma of caramel and lots of sweetness. There are also smells reminiscent of an English barleywine with notes of raisins and brown sugar.
T: There's a bit of overall sweetness in the taste, which has flavors of malty sweetness, but is much more subdued compared to the aroma.
M: It feels medium-bodied and smooth on the palate. The finish leaves a little dryness and some alcohol warmth.
D: The alcohol is very well masked so this is rather drinkable. I would definitely try this again--it's a unique "hybrid" beer that shares characteristics of a dubbel and an English barleywine.

Photo of olradetbalder
3.25/5  rDev -13.8%

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.93/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

a weird one from de molen, listed as a dubbel here, but its not like any i have had before, its almost more english, like a yorkshire stingo, with that tartness to the finish. the bottle is also ancient, not sure how old, but this beer is far from fresh. its held up well though, looking like liquid caramel in the glass and holding a very frothy head like all de molen beers seem to. it smells like tart dried fruit, an over developed yeast profile on this one, not belgian at all, but pushing funky in the wake of minor oxidation. the yeast, like so many of their beers, is what fascinates and perplexes me in this one. why is this as tart as it is, tangy like cranberry on the back end, and dry, especially for a beer styled as a dubbel. the grain might be a little one dimensional in this one, its not quite is nuanced as the belgian ones, but its hard to measure this on a style rubric of any kind, and this is defiantly its own thing. im sure it was a way different beer when it was fresh, probably still amazing just a few years ago, but this one is on its way out now i think, and while i appreciate its weirdness, i am all the more curious to try it in its original form. de molen has risen to darn near the top of the list of my favorite breweries though, and this does little to dissuade that opinion.

Photo of TMoney2591
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a St. Bernadus goblet.

The cork reads 2007, indicating some decent age. Wonder what the result is? Well, it certainly does not pour clearly; rather a dark, murky amber-brown that leans toward garnet-ness with the addition of light. A minor amount of off-white bubbles stands in for a head, but not for long. There's a heavy dose of wheat and flour in the nose, like a bakery prepping for some hard-core pasrty-makin'. Not much else, though there may be some walnuts or cashews hidden somewhere on the table. Luckily, there's quite a bit more goin' on in Flavor Country. There, loaves of rye bread are plentiful, walnuts literally grow on trees (...wait...), red apples are on sale, and molasses seems to drip from certain trees at certain times of day. A lovely country, no? Its carbon footprint is of average size, allowing development to continue unabated (though increasing taxes is beginning to slow the rate of development to a much more easily managed level).

Photo of JAHMUR
4/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of DrBier
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Photo of Gavage
3.53/5  rDev -6.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: pours a cloudy brown color with a short tan head that falls to a spotty surface foam quickly.

Smell: very faint malt and fruit sweetness.

Taste: moderate malty profile with some prunes, red grapes, yeast, hint of pepper, moderate bitterness and a bit of alcohol.

Mouthfeel: medium bodied. Lightly crisp throughout. Short aftertaste here.

Drinkability: slower sipping Dubbel that is decent but not overwhelming. Worth a try.

Photo of afsdan
3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

Photo of wordemupg
3.97/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle poured into tulip 30/9/12

A slightly hazy amber with a nice tight tan finger of foam that hangs around long enough to leave a couple partial rings of lace

S caramel and toffee, bready malt, floral notes, honey and a little hay, smells like an EIPA or a strong Pilsner with a butterscotch twist

T much like the nose, reminds me of an English ale with some Czech lager, I rather like it but a Dubble? I think not. Biscuit and butterscotch with some grassy floral hops, rather interesting

M on the heavy side of medium, nice carbonation with dry cereal on the finish, slightly sticky on the lips

O not at all what I was expecting, I thought this was a Winter Warmer named after Santa’s Reindeer, solid stuff whatever it is

I was expecting spices and got English malt with Czech hops? I don’t get much off the label but I liked the beer inside

Photo of glid02
3.77/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle out of the Brick Store cellar shared by a generous soul. 2007 vintage.

Pours a hazy purplish-amber color with a one-finger off-white head. The head recedes into a wispy layer on top leaving light lacing.

Smells of robust medium malts with large amounts of boozy medium and dark fruits - pears, figs, and hints of raisins. Also present are hints of clove and brown sugar.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Moderately sweet medium malt flavors kick things off and are joined quickly by hints of spices. Midway through the sip the flavor profile turns toward fruit - mostly dried figs with hints of syrupy pears. The fruit flavors carry through to a crisp ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a nice thickness with active carbonation.

Drinkability is also good. I had no problems finishing my glass and could have another.

Overall I wasn't a huge fan of this beer as the flavors seemed thinner than they should have been given the aroma and mouthfeel. A decent beer for the style but one not worth seeking out.

Photo of ccrida
4.3/5  rDev +14.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

"Hand-Crafted Double Dutch Ale. 28.7 EBU, Premiant and Saaz Hops, EBC 105."
750ml bottle, caged and cork labeled (dated?) 2.007.
The picture of Zeus holding a hammer and lightening bolt matches the translation to Thunder & Lightening that I found cited with over references to the beer, but both RateBeer and The Cracked Kettle refer to a Czech Pils of the same name, which this definitely is not. Beyond what it says on the label, it's pretty clearly an abbey style Dubbel. Poured into my Meantime snifter, color is a murky garnet brown, with a large, medium bubbled tan head that leaves foamy lace.

Smell is a touch sweet, though less-so as it warms, with cocoa, caramel and vanilla, and a bit boozy.

Taste is not as sweet, spicy yeast, chocolaty, slight phenols and clean alcohol. Damn good, a bit richer and more chocolate then most,very nice.

Mouthfeel is carbonated and crisp, medium body

Drinkability is pretty good, a very solid dubbel, my first from the brewery, they're off to a good start in my book! This is a lot like Rochefort 8, but smoother and easier drinking.

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3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

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3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of drpimento
4.41/5  rDev +17%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hm, the chermens had better keep an eye out and step up to recognise this serious threat to one of their classic brews reputation of quality. Poured with a very nice light tan thick foamy frothy head that lasts and lots of lace. Color is a very lovely clear dark cherry wood. Nose is malt fruit yeast and a bit roast. Flavor is like flavor and more of it. Body is excellent: soft round, but not too & with excellent carbonation. Finish is very good- not too sweet but plenty of flavor and character to keep this beer commanding my interest. Finish is of short to medium length. Outstanding beer and a session, no question.

Photo of a77cj7
3.5/5  rDev -7.2%

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3.75/5  rDev -0.5%

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4/5  rDev +6.1%

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3/5  rDev -20.4%

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3/5  rDev -20.4%

Photo of PhillyStyle
3.9/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Poured from a 750ml corked bottle (dated 2.007?) into a mug (purchased at Green's on Buford, $14.99).

A: Poured a hazy brown with an moderatly thick, more than 2 finger pour, thanks to the carbonation, off-white/light brown head that dissolved fairly quickly. A thin layer of the head stayed throughout the drink.

S: The aroma was heavy on the malt with some hints of either cocoa or coffe and a slight hint of alcohol.

T: The beer had a good flavor to it. The malt of the dominate flavor, but it is also slighly sweet, with a twinge of alcohol and hops.

M/D: The beer was fairly rich and creamy with a more than fair amount of carbonation, but certainly not in a bad way. The aftertaste was bitter and slighly off-putting. Overall, a very good beer and one that I will buy again.

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Donder & Bliksem from Brouwerij De Molen
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