1914 Porter - Brouwerij De Molen
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Reviews by ccrida:
4.3/5 rDev +18.1%
750ml bottle, #488/708.
*Original 1914 Recipe London-Style Porter by Ron Attinson brewed at the Mill
*1.053-1.015, 34.7 EBU, EBC Colour 120.9, 5.8% ABV
Served at cellar temp (I've had it there for only a few months) in nonic - which filled with 95% foam! Although the bottle didn't overflow, I still opted to fill a second, imperial pint glass this time, more slowly and ended with a murky dark amber beer with a creamy tan head with long last that leaves lots of foamy lace. Served at 55F. Score is tricky, as it's a pale color for a porter, but nice. And while the carbonation is ridiculous, the head and lace still end up being attractive. Furthermore, it jives with what I understand a 1914 English Porter is supposed to look like anyways, being a response to the citified country gentry that demanded a lighter beer then the thick robust porters that were the London style from the previous century.
Smell is great, really bright, herbal, minty hops - I was shocked by how fresh they were! I got this bottle as soon as it hit down and have only cellar it a few months, but this was a pleasant surprise. Caramel, toffee, buttered toast, some anise, vanilla and coconut...barrel aged or just malts? Like a mint julep and grape soda, floral, awesome. The may be one of the best smelling beers ever, let alone EP.
Taste is great, again, very fresh. Big chocolate, honey, floral, hay. Some caramel, the minty herbal hops, spicy and candi like, but rounded and milk like, although just a tad to medicinal with a tangy aftertaste. Reminds me of a milk stout, a bit phenolic and hoppy. I've always really loved EKGs, and this a great showcase for them, especially on the nose. Also, there is a rustic feel that I appreciate, I wonder if it is a blend made with old beer? Would be great if there was more info provided on the reconstruction process.
Mouthfeel is full, but silky, smooth, not to heavy, just hazy.
Drinkability is great, a damn tasty beer that I really enjoyed. For whatever reason, I wasn't too geeked on this going in, but now I wish I would have got another bottle while I could have! But the fact is, it was an expensive one-off, and very well may be one and done. Nevertheless, I loved it, especially considering the backstory! It's actually the second post WWI historical English Porter I've had this week, and was totally different (then Manchester Star), but still super good.
11-06-2008 22:15:08 | More by ccrida
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3.9/5 rDev +7.1%
Thanks to my brother for sharing this bottle. Bottle 652 of 672. Bottled 3/13/2009.
The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is that of a basic English porter with slight twist. The first aromas I get are a lot of chocolate and coffee. I also get some roasted malt. At the end of the aroma is some tart dark fruit notes, which makes me wonder if the beer is going to be slightly sour.
The flavor is basic porter. I get a ton of roasted malt and chocolate. There is not much coffee in the flavor and no detectable hops. As I get toward the end of the glass and the beer warms up toward room temperature, I start to get a little bit of the dark fruit tartness that I got in the aroma. The tartness goes very well with the other flavors, particularly the chocolate.
Medium mouthfeel and high carbonation.
01-15-2011 22:32:56 | More by Mora2000
3.95/5 rDev +8.5%
Got this from Five Points in Athens, GA.
Pours a hazy warm brown color with a two-finger light tan head. The head sticks around for quite awhile before dissipating into a patchy layer of bubbles on top and a medium-sized ring around the glass. There's not much lacing.
Smells mostly of roasted malt, bready malt, and mild dark fruits. There's also a decent amount of chocolate aroma as the beer warms.
Tastes very similar to how it smells. Bready/nutty flavors up front followed shortly by roasted malts. The sip ends in a good taste of chocolate with a slight dark fruit aftertaste and mild bitterness.
Mouthfeel is good. It's a bit too carbonated in the beginning, but it smooths out fast.
Drinkability is good. I'm a bigger fan of the chocolate taste as the beer warms, rather than the roasted taste in the beginning, but it goes down easily whenever.
Overall this is a good porter, but I think the price is a bit steep. I'm intrigued by their RIS, but I have a hard time paying the same amount for a bomber as I would for eight Ten Fidy's. Worth a shot if you're really into English porters.
10-28-2008 02:38:01 | More by glid02
3.78/5 rDev +3.8%
(from notes) Hooked up to the tap and got really excited to try an "original" recipe, especially from Ron Pattinson's historical stand point.
A: Poured thin offthe tap, very little foam. Body not quite totally opaque, but still quite dark.
S: Mild chocolate and coffee, Resembles the smell of a rich chocolate malt, but with a small coffee kick.
T: Hints of molasses, chocolate, and coffee. Has a unique sour finish which I really am enjoying, nothing face puckering, just enough to have a nice sour note. Portersare not my got to beer, so haven't had many, am thinking thesour finish is unique.
M: Thin, not like other porters in feel, yet it is the 'original' ...so...
D: To thin for me, butam loving the end note, making me want more, luckily there is more, so more I shall have. not to sad that this is a one-off though.
(on writing review) Can not say that I have craved this beer again, not that it was bad, just nothing real special drinking. Was a nice history lesson though.
07-25-2011 18:57:38 | More by HappiestCow
3.78/5 rDev +3.8%
Two-for-two from this brewery with this very enjoyable and basically well done porter. Chocolate aroma. A tiny head, though white bubbly on dark brown. A real natural carbonation that added to mouthfeel and drinkability. Taste is a tad sour, it works.
08-14-2008 12:36:16 | More by Sammy
3.35/5 rDev -8%
Bottled October 2008 (bottle #207 of 450). Poured from a caged-and-corked 750mL bottle into my Samuel Smith nonic.
Bit of a gusher. Clear burnt umber body with bright rufous highlights and a rocky highly active wheat crown that settles to a thin half finger of foam. Loose soapy lacing; decent retention.
Oxidation is noted in nose, though this comes across more as aged fruit and brandy than wet cardboard and the like...despite hints of berries and very light roast coffee, the beer smells a bit, for lack of a better term, "sweaty."
Tart palate entry with lots of fruit and a fast roasty dry finish. Nutty and bright. Though I prefer more modern incarnations of this ale style, the gentle sourness isn't necessarily out of place in a historical re-creation. Improves a bit once given a chance to breath. An interesting flavor profile that grows on you if you set aside your expectations and put yourself in mind of how this would have been brewed 100 years ago.
This bottle (and probably this batch) ended up a bit overcarbonated, especially for the style. You'd be forgiven for thinking this was an eccentric dark belgian ale (except for the low gravity).
A curiosity I wouldn't seek out again any time soon, though I'd probably pick up another bottle on the cheap before tying up my home-brew equipment to replicate it. Still, I have a lot of respect for Ron Pattinson, and it's evident that this ale is the result of careful craft and studious research.
05-29-2013 03:07:10 | More by augustgarage
3.28/5 rDev -9.9%
750. A very dark brown with a billowy cream head. Not a gusher, but looks like a high level of carbonation. Lasted quite a while.
Aroma, earthy, molasses and some slightly tart milk chocolate.
Taste, More roast malt, peaty. An earthy yeastiness. Chocolate, a light red fruit note. Slight coffee and more cocoa finish. All these things are masked by an over abundance of carbonation...
The carbonation causes this to fill the mouth, but really hides some nice flavors I think. Comes off a bit thin and watery also because of this. Abv is low enough to drink a bunch, but the carbonation and price eliminate the desire. Still not sure why the northern euros like to carb everything like its a Saison.
10-29-2012 01:07:26 | More by Bung
3.78/5 rDev +3.8%
Brewed in September 2008 bottled in October 2008
A - Well for 5 years old I still get a 1/4 inch of head that recedes to a mild mocha lace ring. Color is a very clear dark brown with no sediment (which is nice)
S - Mild sour cherry notes with some chalky roast and a touch of chocolate. Doesn't smell too oxidized.
T - Well obviously you get a shit ton of cardboard out of this like licking a box but soft flavors of roasted malts and faint cocoa powder. Far from terrible but far beyond it's prime.
M - Light to medium whatever ABV has been aged out. Now it's kind of like flat Guinness.
Overall I picked this up for 5 bucks at the "House of 1,000 beers" and was intrigued by the low bottle count (bottle 260 out of 450) I guess this beer is a pretty good example of an English porter but I have to disagree that it will age for 5 years. Most porters of this ABV start to fall off after 2 years. Still after 5 it's far from terrible.
03-20-2013 03:32:41 | More by DrDemento456
1.83/5 rDev -49.7%
my second disappointment in a week...jeez
purchased a 750ml from Yankee Spirits in Sturbridge, MA in Feb 2011
opened this beer to an explosive bang! that was a little alarming...poured it and the nice looking dark brown head bloomed out of the glass and onto everything...really unusual for a London Porter.
I take a sip and find that this beer is carbonated beyond what I would expect for even champagne, its like club soda. Very weird for a porter of course, it must have been bottled with an excess of sugars or an unusually hearty strain of yeast...it was undrinkable in this state, literally too fizzy to swallow.
Wanting to taste this beer because it otherwise looked and smelled promising I left it out overnight to see if the carbonation would subside, and it did not.
When I poured it out it literally filled the sink with brown fizz like baking soda and vinegar.
On to the next brew...
02-14-2011 23:01:42 | More by t0nydean
3.6/5 rDev -1.1%
Bottle 670 of 708. Thanks to Kramer17801 for breaking out a bottle of this.
A-Murky, deep brownish copper with a thin tan head. Head revives nicely with a bit of swirling and leaves spotty lace.
S-A rather unusual chocolate aroma that I had a hard time wrapping myself around. Interesting dark fruit aroma, fig?, that I picked up in the background. Held together well with supportive sweet roasted malt.
T-Again with that odd chocolate malt. Bitter bite of dark chocolate and a touch of spicy hops. Finishes with a dry, sour twang finish.
M-Medium-light body with decent lingering flavours and a dry finish. Feels a bit light to me for a porter.
D-Interesting "old world" representation on this classic style. Certainly not a bad brew but it doesn't quite hit the mark for me. I found some of the flavours to be "odd" and even somewhat unappealing.
01-13-2009 12:54:08 | More by Deuane
4.2/5 rDev +15.4%
$14.99 at Hop City. Bottle 498 of 708. Poured into a snifter. Split with my wife and served with a lovely dinner of steak, baked potato, and simple salad.
Pours a cola brown with a fizzy cola head, but I would say the analogy stops there.
Aroma of caramelized malts, cocoa, some earthy spice, tangy yeast, and a hint of alcohol. Very nice.
Taste closely follows aroma, with roasty caramel malt slightly burnt around the edges to produce a molasses-like character. Cocoa. Dark, dried fruits like raisins and prunes in the middle, followed by a yeasty tang, some anise-like herbal bite, and a smooth, semi-sweet finish. Little hop flavor or aroma except for a bit of grassiness, but there is a solid bitterness to counter the malty sweetness. Very reminscient of a dubbel.
Mouthfeel is thinnish, but with plenty of flavor. Doesn't feel watered down at all. I found that the fizzy carbonation dissapated a bit to quickly and left the last half a bit flat, but that was my only complaint.
A perfect match for my steak and a beautiful, full-flavored beer that is not over-the-top. If I had a simple bistro or grill, I would be proud to serve it as a companion pairing. Terrific little project and one that I hope Ron can repeat with other styles.
05-21-2009 00:22:14 | More by firkinhophead
3.73/5 rDev +2.5%
Gushes like every de Molen beer. Moussy taupe head over cola, in both fizz and color, body. Mocha, nut, cherry stones and earth on the nose.
Acidic brown malts, some milk chocolate, soil, and some EKG prickly spice to finish.
Nutty brown malt finish and lean tingly linger. Light-medium, crisp, dry, fizzy.
Brown malts rule here, which is historically accurate, I think. But this is fizzier and lighter than I expected. That and the overflow make me think this is over attenuated.
01-11-2012 15:00:07 | More by StJamesGate
3.95/5 rDev +8.5%
Surprised not to see this beer already listed in the De Molen stable.
Picked up at Platinum Cellars, North Strathfield, Sydney.
Plain black-on-white label, giving me lots of information about the beer: original and final gravities, colour, bittering units, hops etc.
Mentions that this is an "Original 1914 Recipe London-Style Porter" And that it will be good for 5 years.
Brewed February 11 2009.
Bottled March 14 2009.
Bottle number 090.
a) Tan, rocky head. Very dark brown with ruby highlights when the light passes through.
s) Rich caramel and chocolate. Hint of age, with some raisins and preservd fruit coming through.
t) Significant malty-complex flavour profile. A touch of ash, and what also appears to be a slight lactic sourness. Nicely balanced bitterness.
m) Fairly light body, with a touch of astringency.
d) The flavour is quite a talking point, and the slight sourness and dryness makes this very drinkable.
10-09-2010 01:56:34 | More by vancurly
2.98/5 rDev -18.1%
Bottled March 13th, 2009. 4 years old. Uh oh.
A: Medium/dark brown pour. Big light, fluffy, effervescent light brown head. Fizzy head fades fairly slowly. Almost zero lacing.
S: Acetone and sherry. Cardboard boxes.
T: Mild roasted malt, a little smoky. Very plain and bland. Oxidation isn't as bad as the aroma but everything tastes very cardboardy, especially in the aftertaste.
M: Light/medium bodied.
O: A pretty plain and boring porter. It's pretty unoffensive and smooth but there's not a whole lot of flavor here. Very mellow. Age has not improved it all either with the obvious oxidation. Alas.
02-15-2013 03:09:18 | More by Dope
3.48/5 rDev -4.4%
Pours a murky cola hue with very frothy, foamy head that looks like whipped egg-whites, bubbly around the sides and some fairly fierce bead up the glass. Lace is not very existent. Pretty damn special though, in the good sense.
Nose is quite smokey - a lot of carbon character with a meaty, plummy robustness to it. Quite roasty with a slight musty note as well. Hints of chocolate and sultanas hiding at the back, pretty nice.
Taste is quite meaty as well, fairly sour for the most part with a dark, robust, smokey flavour, hint of peat smoke and some barbecue sauce on it as well. Yeah, quite strongly flavoured, plum and espresso joining the mix on the mid. Trying to enjoy it, but the flavours really are quite challenging; a lot of sour roasty notes producing some really organic overtones that seem almost rotting at times. Decent structure, just takes some getting used to.
Quite tingly on the feel, not thick enough to absorb the carbonation. Lots of texture, I think too much actually.
Enjoyable enough beer, but very strongly flavoured. I've had far more alcoholic beers that are easier to handle and quaff than this boldness. I don't hate it, but I couldn't drink a whole lot of it.
09-17-2010 06:31:05 | More by laituegonflable
4.03/5 rDev +10.7%
This porter is a bit unusual to say the least- definitely a different take (an earlier take) on the style, and while a little challenging, I enjoyed it. Poured a hazy chestnut with a swirly head. Smells of charcoal, dark fruit, licorice, and a hint of mint. Tastes very light up front, followed by a slightly chalky chocolate flavor, carob, and light charcoal and fruit notes. Overcarbonated, but smooth. Interesting.
08-20-2010 13:15:47 | More by Georgiabeer
3.38/5 rDev -7.1%
Very, very dark brown, with a slightly ruby-hued tinge to it when held to the light. Good clarity is evident. Head is a huge billowy puff of light brown candy floss, which leaves globs of foamy lacing as it collapses. Looks pretty impressive.
Big roasted, slightly tart chocolate characters on the nose, with a decent whiff of slightly acerbic booze. It has slightly too much vinous acidity to it, I'd prefer a lot more roasted and chocolate. But it's still pretty tasty.
Thin palate, with a definite hint of acidity, possibly cherries, something kirschy and slightly crisp. Mostly filled out with lots of roasted grain and a bit of dark boozy notes. There's something too thin to it though, and again that tartness is very odd.
Not quite sure what to make of this. It's not a big, roasty beer, and it definitely has some funky characters to it that seem a little off. Certainly not one of my favourite dark ales, but it's interesting enough to look at.
09-14-2010 02:34:04 | More by lacqueredmouse
3.45/5 rDev -5.2%
Brewed 17 february 2011
Bottled 22 march 2011
Bottle # 1016 1182
Cork immediately popped off the bottle upon loosening the wire cage. Luckily, there was only minor loss of beer...
Light brown body topped with a thick, chunky head. Fair roasted malt aroma backed with a slight sourness. Taste is much like the aroma but with dark malt flavors slightly dominating; fair bitterness at the finish; lightly burnt toast. Light-bodied feel; semi-dry finish.
An okay porter. Too bad it's not clear what the brewer's were aiming for with this beer style-wise. Seems a bit lightweight compared to more modern porters, yet there is nothing really mentioned on the bottle or the brewery web site about the original recipe other than it was was found " in some old obscure building in London". An interesting find for the curious...
Late note: July 05th, 2014
Had another bottle: Brewed 10 February 2009, bottled March 13 2009, bottle # 135, ABV 5.3%, Kent Golding hops for bittering and final hop addition (per the bottle's label)...
Pretty much the same observations and notes from above. I might give the 'Mouthfeel' a 3.5 bump, but otherwise a solid 3.5 overall. Slightly cocoa flavored, a tad sour, smooth and tasty although far from being stunning. Worth trying if only for it's different take on most modern day porter styles...
11-18-2012 21:00:44 | More by beergoot
3.45/5 rDev -5.2%
Bottle #208 shared by ATLBeerdog at the Brick Store.
It sounded like a champagne bottle when the top popped on this one. It pours very light for a porter, a hazy iced tea brown with a big tan head that dissipates slowly and leaves traces of lacing.
The aroma was very unique for a porter with some dry chocolate sweetness along with a sizable toasted malt backbone. There was a surprising amount of hops in the nose as well. Overall, an interesting mix of aromas that I wasn't expecting.
The taste follows the aroma with the chocolate malts forming the backbone with an initial spicy hop kick up front and a sour bitterness in the finish that seemed as much from the baker's chocolate than from the hops, but it was dry either way. Again, very unique taste.
The mouthfeel is fairly light for the style with lots of carbonation, probably a little too much for my liking.
This was certainly not what I expected when I saw this bottle. It's light for a porter but was still decent.
03-21-2009 01:38:49 | More by gford217
4.1/5 rDev +12.6%
Bottle 214 / 708; Sampled July 2008
A soft pour produces a fat-one-finger thick, brown tinged, tan colored head in my New Belgium globe glass. The beer is a dark brown, concentrated amber color that shows a brilliantly clear, ruby hue and lots of carbonation when held up to the light. The aroma is very toasty smelling and is quite noticeable as I am pouring and visually inspecting this beer. Toasty, brown malt notes are joined by coffee-like aromas in the finish. Roasted just enough to contribute a soft sharpness and light acidity to the nose. The roast, the acidity, the malt and the fermentation character combine to provide fruity notes of burnt prunes. Really though the huge, toasty malt aromas are the biggest part of the nose; they contribute aromas similar to deeply toasted whole grain bread, fresh from the oven hardy bread crusts and a light chocolate note.
Very light bodied, especially considering the advertised original gravity of 1.015, but it does have some heft to it and a slight viscousness as it flows across the tongue. Well carbonated, but this doesn't keep this from feeling creamy, especially towards the finish. Up front this has a roast fruitiness to it that is offset in the finish by flavors of city-roast coffee, lightly tannic roast malt and ample toasted grain notes. The finish has a bitter, burnt malt note to it as well as a sharp, charcoal-like acidity (that is not overwhelming) as well as a round hop bitterness. The combination in the finish is actually pretty nice and doesn't over-power the rest of the beer. Despite being so light (without a malty richness), this has a fair amount of sweetness to it that really accents a solid fruitiness that is more like sweet plums than anything; though it does have touches of raisins and a bit of fig-like notes (all of which have been roasted).
A second pour of this reintroduces the carbonation and even provides a bit of a carbonic bite from the excessive carbonation (nothing a few swirls of my glass can't reduce though). Dusty cocoa notes combine with the up front sweetness and ultimately meld in with the amply toasted grain finish. I really like how complex the malt character is here, both the nose and the flavor have a deep toast character to it that really boosts the effect of this beer.
I admit to being a sucker for historical exercises such as this. I would love to hear a bit more about the malt and yeast selection, the latter would be especially critical for a reproduction. While there are times that I wish that this had a bit more fullness to it, the fact that it is so light makes this a very quaffable brew and it isn't anything near watered down feeling.
07-04-2008 22:33:18 | More by Gueuzedude
1914 Porter from Brouwerij De Molen
83 out of 100 based on 41 ratings.