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Bommen & Granaten - Brouwerij De Molen

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87
very good

162 Ratings
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Ratings: 162
Reviews: 80
rAvg: 3.88
pDev: 14.95%
Wants: 20
Gots: 50 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  15.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: hoppymeal on 11-12-2008

750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU
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Ratings: 162 | Reviews: 80
Photo of bwood06
3.8/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

A - Dark red in color with no head whatsoever. 3.5/5

S - Dark stone fruit with some oakiness. Honey and molasses. Very sweet. 4/5

T - Ultra sweet. Dates and raisins. Honey and molasses. Sickeningly sweet. 3.75/5

M - Very heavy and viscous. Sticky sweet. Very little carbonation. Chewy. 3.75/5

O - Good barleywine. Do not drink with dinner. Drink this with dessert. Dinner probably biased my review heavily. 3.75/5

Photo of claybob43
4.65/5  rDev +19.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

Top notch barley wine. Good on a cold night.

Photo of andysk
4.76/5  rDev +22.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Absoutely fantastic. Almost closer to a port than a beer. Where can I find more!?

Photo of Kevinpitts
3.75/5  rDev -3.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Sweeter barleywine. No carbonation. Decent offering, but not for everyone.

Photo of RickyS
4.52/5  rDev +16.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into teku glass. Very nice dark amber/red colour with little carbonation and tiny bubbles. A bit hazy. The head dissipates very quickly. Smells just great! Reminds of honey, caramel, dates and molasses with the alcohol hidden very well. Maybe a tiny bit of leather in the background.
Tastes sweet, with dark caramel upfront and a slight bitterness at the end, which somehow survives in the aftertaste. Feels syrupy with medium body and low carbonation. Absolutely fantastic!

Photo of patre_tim
3.44/5  rDev -11.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.5

A: Brilliant copper with a tinge of red, no carbonation, a very faint haze, topped with a half finger of sulfur yellow head.


S: Strange almost vomit like scent, Italian proscutto all the way or Serrano Ham, burnt sugar, crème brulee, light alcohol scent, light fruitiness.


T: Crème brulee, burnt sugar, the same strange proscutto flavor is light, thick brandy alcohol, throat burn.


M: Thick syrupy texture, very low carbonation.


O: I got this on Wishbeer, Thailand, drank in Kunming on January 9th, 2015. Its that time of year to have this one, especially on the day of the first snow in our city! Memories of having barley wine with my bro in Canada this around this time of year.

Photo of drpimento
4.5/5  rDev +16%

Whoa! this is a Wiley monster. Poured with a traditional tiny fine off-white head, a little lace and a hazy/cloudy dark honey amber color. Aroma is wet grain, malt, figs, a bit of citrus, a hint of yeast. flavor is like aroma but the first thing that jumps out is the sweet tartness. The citrus is an interesting twist for Barley Wine. It pretty much Hides most of the Malt. The body is perfect. Alcohol is well hidden. This is a good ass Beer, By cracky.

Photo of superspak
3.94/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into snifter, bottled on 8/24/2011. Pours hazy/cloudy dark ruby red color with minimal head or lacing. Some light carbonation bubbles linger at the surface. Aromas of big raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown bread, brown sugar, light leather, herbal, and herbal/toasted earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark fruitiness and dark/bready malt sweetness; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown sugar, brown bread, light leather, herbal, and herbal/toasted earthiness. Light earthy herbal bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown sugar, brown bread, herbal, and toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and balance of dark fruitiness and rich dark/bready malt flavors; with a good malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and very full bodied; with very slick and fairly syrupy mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice English barleywine. All around good complexity and balance of dark fruitiness and rich dark/bready malt sweetness; and very smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of jdhilt
4.4/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a two-finger off-white head that fades very slowly leaving a good lace. Cloudy amber color, some yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet almost syrupy nose and flavor is sweet toffee, not cloying, high ABV is hidden. Pricey at $11.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Westborough, Ma. Brewed Jul 2012.

Photo of DmanGTR
4.5/5  rDev +16%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Phil for sending me this in a trade!

Poured deep maple with a very slight trail of bubbles. Perfectly clear, the light produces a brilliant deep amber glow. Lots of caramel and toffee here. Very nicely balanced sweetness that lasts the entire sip followed by an earthy bitterness. Low carbonation works for this sipper. Thick and chewy body. Quite an awesome beer indeed!

Photo of bark
3.7/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Vintage 2012.

The colour is amber (25 EBC), the liquid is clear. The two finger head is compact and off-white; it sinks very slowly leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell is sweet and a bit sour. Some bitterness, raisins, ripe apples, green plants, minerals, and smooth alcohol. It is quite strong, although I have expected even more sweetness.

The taste is very, very sweet. Apple juice, minerals, ripe red fruits and some biscuits. Medium to full body. The aftertaste is also sweet with raisins and dried fruits, minerals and chalk. The long finish is sweet with lots of toffee.

The carbonation is strong, the small bubbles are long-lasting. The liquid is thick and sticky, yet a bit dry.

There is almost no alcohol in the taste which is impressive. There are lots of mineral-chalk in this one, a bit too much I think.

Photo of DIM
3.77/5  rDev -2.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 3.5

A little over two years old, 11.2 oz. bottle filled to within a mm of the cap.

a: Slightly hazy golden amber; poured a small, big bubbled head.

s: Boozy raisins and plums and molasses; sherry and a hint of oxidation; sugary toffee. Very enticing.

t: Bit of a let down from the smell. Lots more sugar than fruit. A little raisin flavor, tons of sugary sherry, and some oxidation.

m: Big and syrupy with gentle carbonation.

o: The label says this can age for 25 years. Wouldn't this just get sweeter and sweeter over time? Anyway, this was interesting to try but I think I would have preferred a fresher bottle with a stronger hop presence.

Photo of mfnmbvp
3.82/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2 fl oz. bottle with quite the intricate and detailed label. Brewed on 15 April 2010, and bottled 19 August 2010, so this beer is about three years and two months old, making this probably the second oldest beer I've ever had, next to the Mikkeller / BrewDog Devine Rebel I drank yesterday, which is also an English barleywine.

Poured into a clear balloon snifter glass.

A - Pours a thick viscous muddy mahogany caramel colored body with no head, no bubbles, and no lacing. Looks even more flat than yesterday's beer. Some dark specks of sediment noticeable.

S - Not getting too much in the way of smell, but the beer is still pretty cold. Some caramel, taffy apples, and some cinnamon sticks. Getting some burnt brown sugar and some dark fruit presence like figs, dates, and prunes also. Some alcohol fumes on the finish.

T - Taste is pretty nice. I'm getting lots of caramel covered apple goodness, some booze heat, and some dark fruit flavor in the background.

M - Feel is thick, syrupy, sweet, sticky, and boozy. A bit of alcohol heat on the finish. Heavy bodied with pretty much zero carbonation.

Overall, I quite enjoyed it, although I don't think it held up quite as well as the Mikkeller / BrewDog Devine Rebel did, but that's another story. I love the caramel and apple flavors present here, they are truly great. Very high 15.20% abv is noticeable, but doesn't feel nearly that high, although I'm sure it is destined to doom me. Recommended.

De Molen Bommen & Granaten ---3.5/5

Photo of Jeffo
3.15/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Had this one a few times but have never bothered to review it. With the recent release of a Bordeaux BA version, it seemed like the time for a 15% night.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled 21 August 2012
32 Plato
IBU 57

APPEARANCE: A thick and viscous pour produces a small, tighter, bubbly, off-white head with decent retention. Head cascades really slowly, which is mesmorizing. Fades quickly to a sandy wisp and bubbles around the glass. Perfectly clear burnt orange with almost no carbonation evident. A bubbly ring sticks around but looks almost flat by the end. Pretty nice looking for the style, though the head needs a bit more staying power.

SMELL: Bold and boozy nose. Caramel, toffee, some red fruits, raisins and spicy alcohol. Candi sugar and berries as well. This is going to be big, sweet and boozy.

TASTE: Lots of sweetness up front. Toffee, red fruits, berries, and some apple sweetness into a boozy and spicy, alcohol laced finish. Booze, pepper, herbs and spices and a good dose of grainy sweetness as well. Bold and lingering aftertaste, but surprisingly not hot. Flavorful and very herbal and earthy. Maybe a touch peaty, with some lingering bitterness trying to compete. This is a challenge and perhaps too much so.

PALATE: Fuller body with lower levels of carbonation. Heavy and oily, but not overly creamy, goes down fine and finishes slick and sticky. A bit of a burn at the swallow with lingering heat on the palate. A little watery as it sits perhaps. Pretty good for such a monster.

OVERALL: This is big. Very big. Maybe too big. Very sweet and lots of grainy flavors. Every time I have this I'm reminded that it's just not really my thing. The cascade dry hopped version was excellent, as the hop flavor overtook the sweet, grainy flavor that can be so dominating here. Let's see how the Bordeaux version is.

Photo of Brandywine
2.45/5  rDev -36.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

2010 Vintage

Appearance: Murky brown tinged with orange. No head or carbonation to speak of. Big alcohol legs but not as sticky as I'd expect at 15.2 % ABV.

Smell: Brown sugar, caramel, apples, slight smell of booze. Then it all fades quickly.

Taste: A little harshness from the booze, sweet sugary apple flavor but kind of watered down. Some caramel. Very one dimensional.

Mouthfeel: On the light side of full or maybe even medium. Disappointing for a beer of this style especially one that is such high gravity.

Overall: Very disappointed in this beer. Not worth trying especially at the price point. It's a very simple brew but the few notes it does have are not particularly enjoyable and the body comes off thin for what should be a huge barley wine.

Photo of IPA35
4.22/5  rDev +8.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

My first real barley wine save for the Anchor one and my strongest beer till date.
Bottled: 21-08-2012

A dark amber, hazy beer. Honey-like. Off white foam, no real head.
Very little visible carbonation.

Big alcohol legs on the glass after swirling it a little.

Smells very potent. Caramelised apple, alcohol, some dark fruits. A very malt forward beer ofcourse. The brewer says it should smell of mandarins as well, I can get that.

I did not really know what to expect but this is a tasty beer (as expected). Again, caramel sweetness, apple juice, some bready malts and light hints of dried dark fruits. Noticable alcohol but if you told me this was a 11% beer I'd believe you. Some grape, slight white wine even. A slight leaf hopiness in the aftertaste.

Mouthfeel is full and smooth. Low carbonation.

Overall a pretty nice sipper. But really a sipper!
And I still got the Cascade Dryhopped and Bordeaux Barrel Aged version to review.

Photo of ngeunit1
4.48/5  rDev +15.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Hazy amber-orange with very little off-white bubbly head.

S - Sweet caramel and dark caramel malts, caramelized malts, dark fruits, pine and a bit of citrus hops, brown sugar, and some booze.

T - Sweet caramel malts, caramelized malts, brown sugar, figs, prunes, and other dark fruits, some light pine hops and resiny bitterness, some booze.

M - Full bodied, moderate carbonation. Smooth with a sweet and warming finish.

D - Fantastic bold and rich barleywine. Great overall balance.

Photo of seand
4.21/5  rDev +8.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Pours a clear dark brown with just a bit of off-white head. A ring around the glass retains along with just a bit of surface film, which just leaves a few transient spots of lacing.

S: Deeply sweet molasses and caramel.

T: Candied apple and liqueur, with touches of yeast. The same deep caramelized sweetness from the smell is also quite apparent.

M: Full body, low carbonation.

Overall, a good and super strong barley wine. I'd like to try one after a few years in the cellar.

Photo of CanuckRover
3.64/5  rDev -6.2%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky brown. No head, no lacings, just a few bubbles off the pour that vanish immediately.

Fruit and chocolate on the nose. Dark red fruit, carmelised sugar, and milk chocolate.

Nice dark fruit, berries, plums, and dates. Deep malt profile, really complex. Alcohol is soft and well-incorporated.

The mouth let's it down. Just not pleasant to drink. No carbonation whatsoever. A real shame, because the flavour profile is really nice.

Photo of Thorpe429
3.66/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of ygtbsm94. Served in a sampler glass. Pours a medium caramel color with no real head, though none is expected from a brew like this. Nose is strong malt and sweetness with some fruit in the background. Flavor has quite a bit of sweetness drowning out some of the subtleties from the nose. Medium-full body. A bit viscous. Some booze. Pretty good.

Photo of ChugginOil
3.55/5  rDev -8.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours a translucent, dark amber color with barely any head, whatsoever. No lacing.

The nose has notes of caramel, figs and plums. The high abv is fairly muted but makes a slight presence. Sweet smells dominate here.

The flavors are dark fruit forward and are also quite sweet as the nose suggested. A ton of sweet and giant flavors. There is a decent amount of caramel flavors that also add to the sweetness.

The mouthfeel is full-bodied and thick. Barely any carbonation.

Overall, this is a stand-up barleywine that hides it's deadly ABV nicely. Just a bit too sweet.

Photo of Dope
3.94/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled August 19th, 2010. Just over 2 years old. Bottle 1561 out of 2304.

A: Pours a rusty reddish-brown. No hiss when uncapping. Zero carbonation or lacing (of course). Completely flat.

S: Boozy raisins and dark fruits. Molasses and caramel. Very sweet, it literally smells syrupy with all the caramel and molasses in there.

T: Very boozy. Loads of raisin and caramel up front. A bit of molasses kicks in in the middle. Brown sugar and more raisin in the finish. A touch of apple lingers in the aftertaste too. Did I mention it's boozy? Spicy alcohol everywhere. However, not overpoweringly so and not like pure spirits. But close. Warms the belly on the very first sip, if that gives you any indication.

M: Heavy and thick but the strong alcohol cuts it quite a bit and keeps it from becoming cloying despite the lack of carbonation.

O: Very intense barleywine. Very big, very sweet and fruity. A sipper for sure, especially since it is dead flat. But surprisingly not as harsh as you'd think and surprisingly balanced for what you get. To be honest, I enjoyed it as a really unique and strong barleywine.

Photo of Etan
3.24/5  rDev -16.5%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

330ml bottle into a tulip. Bottled in August, 2010 (#393/2304).

A: Murky reddish brown with a small head of coarse off-white bubbles. Pretty ugly.

S: Sweet and slightly oxidized. Grapes and raisins, fig, brown sugar, a bit of a solvent note from the alcohol.

T: Not quite as sweet as the aroma, with some savory roasted grain qualities to it to offer a bit of balance. Mushed raisins, prunes, burnt sugar. Warming.

M: Thick and syrupy. Flat.

O: I don't see this beer going anywhere good. Meh.

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.94/5  rDev -50%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a transparent amber color ale with zero head. Aroma of dry fruits, oxidation and sweet corn notes is quite intense. Taste is also dominated by warm alcohol ester notes with some corn, some oxidized caramel malt notes with intense dry fruit and loads of residual sugar. Body has an oily like texture with zero carbonation and loads of alcohol was apparent. This was bottle in 2010 and is supposedly good for another 25 years! I can’t say I was very impressed with this beer as way too much alcohol and sugar was perceptible. There seems to be a trend of zero carbonation and high-gravity beer with no attenuation and I just don’t get it.

Photo of kevanb
3.68/5  rDev -5.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

33cl bottle poured into a snifter. Brewed on April 15, 2010, bottled August 29, 2010. Bottle #1725/2304.

The beer pours a good amber color, lots of dark brown influence, very opaque and hazy. However, it looks extremely flat, no head, no lacing, just a bubble or two when shaken vigorously, not very pleasant or inviting. The aroma is wonderful, lovely malt sweetness, big grains as if from a soft brown bread, nice fruit presence, tart apples, plums and dark cherries even, molasses, caramels, brown sugars are all there, great balance as well. Despite the sweetness from the malts and sugary aspects found on the nose, alcohol is hidden very well, especially for the high gravity. The flavors are solid, nice tart apples to start, brown sugar and molasses are right behind it followed by a long smooth malt experience, grains, sweetness, almost a honey like flavor comes through as well with some dark fruits and a hint of booze at the finish. Unfortunately, as suspected, the beer is completely flat, syrupy in texture with no liveliness. It's a bit hard to get down, viscous in nature, and really detracts from the entire experience. I found it more enjoyable when sipped very slowly, in small servings, like a port wine, but still rather unpleasant.

Verdict: So much potential here, wonderful aroma, great flavorings, but just poor delivery. The lack of any carbonation ruins any hope of having a good experience with this beer, perhaps it's just the age of the bottle, and maybe some oxidation setting in, although it really didn't taste like that was the case and many other reviewers, even of fresher bottles have complained about the mouthfeel as well, so I'm not convinced.

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Bommen & Granaten from Brouwerij De Molen
87 out of 100 based on 162 ratings.