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Bommen & Granaten - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
86
very good

135 Ratings
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Ratings: 135
Reviews: 73
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 15.89%
Wants: 16
Gots: 46 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  15.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU

(Beer added by: hoppymeal on 11-12-2008)
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Reviews by johnnybravo:
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4.43/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

I had 7 bottles of the stuff. 6 of them from a batch in March and 1 from June. The brewer already mentioned that he was more satisfied with the second batch and oh my god! what a great evening filling beer this is. The first batch was great, but it looked horrible and imo it was also too much on the sweet side. The second batch however is a real improvement on those faults. The beer is still very sweet but in a good way because of the strong bitterness underneath and the filling thickness. It's a dessertbeer for sure. After a good heavy meal you should open up a bottle and when done finish it off with a glass of Lagavulin to make the evening perfect! I'm glad I have 5 bottles left. Let's see how they develop over the next 5 years or so.

johnnybravo, Dec 18, 2008
More User Reviews:
Photo of ricke
4.45/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

2009 vintage. Brewing date: 2009-02-25.

A: Reddish amber, quite pale actually. No head, just a few random airy bubbles that quickly disappear. Looks like I'll be having another flat one from De Molen...

S: A very powerful and well defined smell. Lots of vinous fruits (prunes, plums, raisins) and caramel malts. The alcohol adds a nice and subtle layer. Faint notes of autumn leaves and spices.

T: The taste is really good. It's very sweet with caramel malts to the fore. Notes of toffee. Vinous fruits are all around, mostly in the form of plums and figs. Aromas of oranges and apples. Lots of rum soaked raisins. Strangely enough, the sweetness doesn't get too much, instead the beer comes out as quite balanced. The finish is gently bitter and sweet with vanilla, wood and a mild leafy hop note, and a warming, well integrated alcohol flavor.

M: Full bodied with a fat and chewy mouthfeel. No carbonation, absolutely flat.

D: A really good beer. Very taste and characterful. It's definitely a sipper, but it's impressive that a beer as sweet as this one is so balanced. The vinous and liqueur-like qualities in this one is superb. But it would have been so nice if there was some carbonation.

ricke, Sep 17, 2009
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4/5  rDev +4.2%

simoen, Jan 21, 2014
Photo of glid02
3.8/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle.

Pours a hazy chestnut brown color with a wispy light tan head. The head quickly dissipates leaving no lacing but decent legs.

Smells of sweet and syrupy caramel malts with good amounts of dark toffee. Also present are large amounts of ripe plums and figs and milder amounts of brandy aromas.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Sticky caramel malt flavors with large amounts of toffee and butterscotch flavors kick things off. Shortly thereafter moderate amounts of brandy-soaked plum and raisin flavors work their way into things, carrying through to a decidedly sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a smooth thickness with very soft carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall this was a big still barleywine - certainly on the sweet side but after a certain ABV it's almost impossible to make them otherwise. I'd enjoy seeing beers over 12% available in the Rogue nip bottles as 12 oz. is almost always too much. Anyways, it's a tasty beer that's worth a shot.

glid02, Aug 04, 2010
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3.98/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Sampled on tap at the Pre-ZBF festival at Alivnne. The beer poured a cloudy orange body with an off white head that ran away rather quickly. The nose had yeast notes, some citrus character and a bit of alcohol as well. The taste was pretty intense with some alcohol notes, fruit character, orange and a nice hop character and spice as well. Overall a full bodied beer that improved as it warms and the nose and body open up.

ggaughan, Mar 08, 2009
Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Traded from the Netherlands. Pours a rich dark brown colour with a little head, noneby the end of the bottle. Fairly full mouthfeel, supplemented by lots of caramel. This is sweet and apricot fruity. Very sweet, this is one year old of its stated 25 year life, and should be even more interesting after five years. Drinkable and super high alcohol is hidden.

Sammy, Nov 01, 2009
Photo of CanuckRover
3.65/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3.5

Pours a murky brown. No head, no lacings, just a few bubbles off the pour that vanish immediately.

Fruit and chocolate on the nose. Dark red fruit, carmelised sugar, and milk chocolate.

Nice dark fruit, berries, plums, and dates. Deep malt profile, really complex. Alcohol is soft and well-incorporated.

The mouth let's it down. Just not pleasant to drink. No carbonation whatsoever. A real shame, because the flavour profile is really nice.

CanuckRover, Dec 17, 2012
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3.98/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

33cl bottle, brought back from Holland.

#2069/2506

bottled 8/27/09 - best consumed within 25 years

appearance: standard black typewriter font on white label, eroded red wax over the cap. the cap pops to absolutely no sound and is poured into my delirium chalice. clear amber mahogany turns to a cloud as the sediment sneaks in. no head, a few misplaced bubbles that instantly vanish

smell: caramel, tobacco, molasses, pine sap, rum covered fruit

taste: 15.2% is buried somewhere - quite sweet but lacking any real bitterness - caramel, rum soaked apple and plum, brown sugar, citrus peel. fascinating how well the alcohol hides (at least on the palate) - otherwise, not particularly exciting but a fun ride

mouthfeel: no carbonation, medium body, slightly syrupy

overall: not de molen's finest work, but a dangerously drinkable abv monster

dirtylou, Jun 14, 2011
Photo of Mavajo
3.83/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Poured into a snifter. Dark ruby color with a very thin white-ish head that fades almost instantly. No lacing. All in all, not an impressive appearance - but I'll give it a pass, considering the huge ABV.

Nose is a malty treat - caramel, burnt brown sugar, etc. Taste follows suit perfectly, with a generous sweetness - loads of caramel, brown sugar and lots of malt. Body is medium to heavy and very stick. My major criticism of this brew is the carbonation - there's virtually no carbonation in this thing, and it leaves the beer a bit flat (no pun intended). Don't get me wrong - I'm not asking for a tingler here, but this thing could use some more carbonation to give it a bit of life. The alcohol burn is certainly there, but it's not offensive - it adds some great character.

All in all, an interesting brew. It's a phenomenal sipper, but not a personal favorite of mine. Something needs to be done about that mouthfeel before I give this one another look - just too flat.

Mavajo, Aug 07, 2010
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2.45/5  rDev -36.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Shared this with Frasier433 during our weekly tasting session. He picked it up at Hop City.

A- Murky mahogany. Zero carbonation. No lacing. I served this to 3 people, 2 pours each. On the very last pour (so pour number 6) I really made it forceful and go just a hint of co2. I'm not looking for a lot, but something. The stillness of this beer really made it seem flat, dull, and unappetizing. Looks like a 40 year port, that oxidized reddish-brown color.

S- The smell was pretty incredible. Obvious nuts and malts. There was a flavor I was trying to define, and I said "Apricots...no, plums...no, apricots AND plums" and then Frasier said "Nah dude, figs". Yes, figs...figs all the way. It smells like a fine aged port. Smells like a 40 year old port.

T- Really sweet, overly sweet, toffee and grape juice, but bitter on the end. A drying flavorless bitter. Actually pretty unpleasant.

M- Medium-full bodied, thick and rolling. Moist.

D- The appearance was acceptable, the smell was incredible, but the taste was just really hard. We had three people drinking a 33 cL bottle, and it was hard for us to finish. Frasier picked up 2 bottles. I said, age the second one for 10 years and let's come back to it, see if the sugars mellow out.

Overall, the smell was really incredible, but the taste was just down right unpalatable.

jmhart, Aug 08, 2010
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4.5/5  rDev +17.2%

jsnoek, Jun 28, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

GRG1313, Jul 20, 2014
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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

crosenkrantz, Jun 18, 2013
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3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

(330cl bottle from Bruery Provisions. Bottle #2013/2304). Pours cloudy mahogany with no head and some floaties. Aroma has loads of fruit--green apple, orange, some caramel and a bit of alcohol. Taste is sweet with a bit of bitterness on the end. Alcohol is noticeable, but it doesn’t show 15%. Not bad, but not terribly complex.

trappistlover, May 25, 2011
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3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

750ml bottle from the May '08 brewing. The cork comes loose silently, and pouring it proves there is indeed very little carbonation, if any. The beer is surprisingly clear, with a bright copper body and some traces of a would-be foam collar. Looks like a liqueur, and the similarities don't stop there. Smells incredibly sweet, with brown sugar and fruit notes. Lots of orange character. Very boozy; taking a big whiff, it burns the nostrils. Caramel, brown sugar, and honey in the taste, again with a good deal of fruit. There is a surprising amount of bitterness there, though it's easily overpowered by the sweet finish. No real alcohol bite, just a very warming finish. Thick feel that is quite syrupy. Normally not the kind of beer that I really go for, but I think the lack of carbonation is really what lets it work. Rather than thinking about this as a beer, it comes off as being much more akin to a typical dessert liqueur. Definitely a sipper, and not something I want to have more than a 6oz serving of, but then again, one can just recork the bottle and not have to worry about losing carbonation. Really interesting for what it is.

philipquarles, Aug 13, 2009
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3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

cyrushire, Jul 11, 2014
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5/5  rDev +30.2%

toneigh, Jul 28, 2012
Photo of xaulzan
3.6/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Just dropped $10 on this 12oz bottle, and I must say, I've had better. In so, so many ways.

Puppy farts are the worst, yet, they come out of the cutest things on Earth, so you can hardly be mad at them. Puppies wag their tail at you as if they didn't just put the taste of poop in your mouth, but they know. Trust me, they know. Even after you are tasting the fecal matter, at least the puppy isn't taking $10 from you. At least not directly, more in the form of food and bills at the veterinarian.

Although consequences matter, so do intentions. And all this puppy wanted me to do was love it for who it is: a peeing, pooping on the floor, shit for brains son of a bitch. I can appreciate that. It just wanted some love. Not everybody is able to poop in the correct place, even after they get the shit beat out of them repeatedly. They're "forgetful". Forgetful in the same way that men forget to put down the toilet seat or women forget to stop complaining all the time.

But let's talk about this beers intentions. It is a high alcohol English Barley Wine packaged in a sexy looking bottle. So sexy, in fact, that I decided to give my money to the clerk in exchange for this bottle. I'm a sucker for cool typography. The wax dip just tops her off.

It means well, it really does. It has a complex palate of caramel and mixed fruits, but the mouthfeel is something that I just can't get on board with.

Appearance: Pours a caramel color with a hint of ruby red. Zero carbonation

Smell: Smells of alcohol, apricots, caramel and maybe some figs. Difficult to tell at this point, I'm almost done drinking it and the alcohol is starting to get to me

Taste: Too sweet. I taste assorted fruits, but more of a candied version of them. Very sweet. Too sweet for me, no bitterness at all

Mouthfeel: Aunt Jemima just pooped in my mouth

Overall: Not bad, but not $10 good. I much prefer the Heaven and Hell which is also by Brouwerij De Molen, but costs $1 less. Won't be purchasing again, far too sweet for me

xaulzan, Jun 20, 2011
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1.93/5  rDev -49.7%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a transparent amber color ale with zero head. Aroma of dry fruits, oxidation and sweet corn notes is quite intense. Taste is also dominated by warm alcohol ester notes with some corn, some oxidized caramel malt notes with intense dry fruit and loads of residual sugar. Body has an oily like texture with zero carbonation and loads of alcohol was apparent. This was bottle in 2010 and is supposedly good for another 25 years! I can’t say I was very impressed with this beer as way too much alcohol and sugar was perceptible. There seems to be a trend of zero carbonation and high-gravity beer with no attenuation and I just don’t get it.

Phyl21ca, Oct 19, 2012
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2.4/5  rDev -37.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

2010 Vintage

Appearance: Murky brown tinged with orange. No head or carbonation to speak of. Big alcohol legs but not as sticky as I'd expect at 15.2 % ABV.

Smell: Brown sugar, caramel, apples, slight smell of booze. Then it all fades quickly.

Taste: A little harshness from the booze, sweet sugary apple flavor but kind of watered down. Some caramel. Very one dimensional.

Mouthfeel: On the light side of full or maybe even medium. Disappointing for a beer of this style especially one that is such high gravity.

Overall: Very disappointed in this beer. Not worth trying especially at the price point. It's a very simple brew but the few notes it does have are not particularly enjoyable and the body comes off thin for what should be a huge barley wine.

Brandywine, May 26, 2013
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3.45/5  rDev -10.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

De Molen's Bombs 'n Grenades (funny dutch comic reference), over 15% abv. Nugget hop.
I'm slightly worried.
Brewed 19 januari 2011.
Bottled 11 march 2011.
So it's a pretty fresh sample.

Red brown, with a thin head. Hardly any carbonation.
Smell is boozy, with quite a heavy scent of earthy hops. some floral and herbal.
Taste is more sweet than expected, but the alcohol dominates this brew nevertheless. It is combined with the heavy bitterness and malt sweet. It's wild and unbalanced.

Aftertaste is of alcohol and bitter hops.
Overall, I think this is far too boozy.

RuudJH, May 14, 2011
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4/5  rDev +4.2%

tclapper, Jan 11, 2012
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4.33/5  rDev +12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

appearance: Hazy, dusky reddish tan. Slight head and lacing but pretty damn full for a 15%er.
smell: Some fruitiness and malt. Very tame for such a beast.
taste: This is nice. Mellow and full. A hint of something like raspberry. Complex but tame.
overall: Thanks to my buddy for a fantastic birthday present that included this. A very unique and wonderful concoction.

cindyjeffsmith, Jul 02, 2011
Photo of guytyping
5/5  rDev +30.2%

guytyping, Dec 31, 2011
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4.75/5  rDev +23.7%

Harkrank, Jul 03, 2012
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Bommen & Granaten from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 135 ratings.