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Bommen & Granaten - Brouwerij De Molen

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Bommen & GranatenBommen & Granaten

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BA SCORE
86
very good

130 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 130
Reviews: 72
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 15.89%
Wants: 16
Gots: 46 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  15.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU

(Beer added by: hoppymeal on 11-12-2008)
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kojevergas

Texas

3.38/5  rDev -12%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

11.2 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a conical Guinness pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. "Enjoy within 25 years" - pretentious bastards. Recommended serving temperature 15 C. Expectations are above average, yet I fear it will be over-hopped like many English Barleywines. Brewed and bottled August 24th, 2011.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm considerably over the course of consumption. Side-poured with extra vigor as carbonation issues are absolutely anticipated (I've had some bad De Molen experiences in the past).

A: As predicted, it pours absolutely no head whatsoever - even with a vigorous as hell pour. A beige white floater is present about the edges, adding little in the way of appearance. That's what you get when De Molen tackles a 15.20% beer. Colour is a dark rusty caramel-copper. Nontransparent. Non-opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Wonderful malts - among them biscuit and seemingly well-balanced dark and bright malts. Wonderful caramelization, evoking the wort-like aroma of an ongoing brew. Some booze comes through, but quite little for the ABV. Shockingly, the hops seem complementary to the style and flavour profile, not intruding upon it like so many bad beers in the style. A moderate strength aroma. No yeast or alcohol comes through. Has De Molen actually pulled off a good English Barleywine?

T: Quite sugary. Yes, sugar, sugar, more sugar, and a hint of molasses - all over a heavy dose of caramelization. Quite sweet; I assume this is to drown out the ABV - which it does most admirably. It resembles port, but lacks sufficient depth of fruit character to make the resemblance favorable. I do like the fig, but it's in dire need of more. Plums or raisins would do nicely to complement the flavours here, but sadly are not present. In any case, it's a sugar bomb. Hops are vague and indistinct, but stay on the fringe, never entering the body enough to add any real flavour - not that they could with all the sugary malt bomb action. It's damned overwhelming. No yeast comes through, nor does any alcohol - which is a damn fine accomplishment at 15.20%.

It's just a shame there's so little flavour here. No depth, complexity, or subtlety at all. It feels like a homebrew experiment in concealing alcohol. Sure, the yeast ate all the malt, but where do we go from here?

I will say that the alcohol yields a warming sensation in the stomach. I consider this a plus. Moreover, the one note that does stick out is a hint of toffee, which is relatively easy to find and comes in spades on the climax. It lacks dimension, but it's there.

I like it in a general sense, but it's far from great. I'm just glad it's not overhopped.

Mf: Thick as hell from the sugar bomb, resembling the milk leftover in a cereal bowl after an infant gets done with his chocolatey sugar bombs. Understandable, but far from ideal. It's smooth and wet. Syrupy. Undercarbonated - a seeming De Molen common trait. Doesn't feel tailored to the flavour profile, but sure it suits it in a general sense. The mouthfeel does what it can to ensure this 15.20% brew slides down easily enough, and I respect that.

Dr: It's drinkable as all hell for the ABV, but where is the craftsmanship? I could easily get pissed on this brew; in fact I'd go so far as to say it's dangerous. But there's so little on the table here. I wouldn't even want to buy it just to age it; what is there here that would mature over time? It's a fair offering from De Molen, but it's held back considerably by its simplicity. I'm glad they avoided the usual pitfalls of the style, but this is far from a great example of the style. Decently priced for what it is. I've given it a high rating in this category because it truly is a masterclass in hiding ABV.

B-*

*I originally gave this one a C+, but it gets considerably better as it warms, letting the fig notes come out. I adjusted my score to a B-.

Serving type: bottle

07-08-2012 05:06:10 | More by kojevergas
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Bommen & Granaten from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 130 ratings.