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Bommen & Granaten - Brouwerij De Molen

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87
very good

150 Ratings
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Ratings: 150
Reviews: 74
rAvg: 3.86
pDev: 15.28%
Wants: 17
Gots: 49 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  15.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU

(Beer added by: hoppymeal on 11-12-2008)
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Photo of Sammy
3.78/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Traded from the Netherlands. Pours a rich dark brown colour with a little head, noneby the end of the bottle. Fairly full mouthfeel, supplemented by lots of caramel. This is sweet and apricot fruity. Very sweet, this is one year old of its stated 25 year life, and should be even more interesting after five years. Drinkable and super high alcohol is hidden.

Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of zestar
3.75/5  rDev -2.8%

Photo of Thorpe429
3.7/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle courtesy of ygtbsm94. Served in a sampler glass. Pours a medium caramel color with no real head, though none is expected from a brew like this. Nose is strong malt and sweetness with some fruit in the background. Flavor has quite a bit of sweetness drowning out some of the subtleties from the nose. Medium-full body. A bit viscous. Some booze. Pretty good.

Photo of GRG1313
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%

Photo of olradetbalder
4/5  rDev +3.6%

Photo of BEERchitect
4.3/5  rDev +11.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A succulent and delicadent Barleywine that has all the halmarks of perfection, except for the absolutely still body, leaving the beer somewhat lifeless.

Aside from the stillness of the beer, a medium cloudy appearance of rusty coppers and orange colors avoids head formation, retention, and lacing, but the brandy-like legging gives creadence to the alcohols and sugars hidden within.

Mouthwatering brown sugars, molassas, and deep toffee ignites the fire in this sweet-tooth. Rounded by rummy, figy, and raisony esters and alcohols, the aromas are warming and inviting.

Flavors pick up on all the syrupy goodness with elements of rum-soaked fruitcake, candied stone fruits, sweetbreads, and sherry only begin the onslaught of flavors that take on the tastebuds.

Sweetness early fades into a delicate oiliness that fades into herbal/fruity and alcoholic dryness. The beer never dries out, but gives the impression of lightening and lifting off the palate despite the omittion of carbonation.

This barleywine is as classic flavored as they come; similar to the well-aged J.W. Lees and Tom Hardy's ales.

Photo of Phyl21ca
1.93/5  rDev -50%
look: 1.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 1.5

Bottle: Poured a transparent amber color ale with zero head. Aroma of dry fruits, oxidation and sweet corn notes is quite intense. Taste is also dominated by warm alcohol ester notes with some corn, some oxidized caramel malt notes with intense dry fruit and loads of residual sugar. Body has an oily like texture with zero carbonation and loads of alcohol was apparent. This was bottle in 2010 and is supposedly good for another 25 years! I can’t say I was very impressed with this beer as way too much alcohol and sugar was perceptible. There seems to be a trend of zero carbonation and high-gravity beer with no attenuation and I just don’t get it.

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -9.3%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
4.5/5  rDev +16.6%

Photo of JAHMUR
4.25/5  rDev +10.1%

Photo of drabmuh
3.63/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks Brad, I couldn't drink a lot of this but it was interesting to try. Beer is amber and hazy with a thin white head of low retention.

Aroma is vinous and fruity with some alcohol.

Beer is like port, raisins and grapes with a fortified liquor quality to it, interesting but not great. I liked it but wouldn't have much of it.

Photo of kojevergas
3.38/5  rDev -12.4%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

11.2 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a conical Guinness pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. "Enjoy within 25 years" - pretentious bastards. Recommended serving temperature 15 C. Expectations are above average, yet I fear it will be over-hopped like many English Barleywines. Brewed and bottled August 24th, 2011.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm considerably over the course of consumption. Side-poured with extra vigor as carbonation issues are absolutely anticipated (I've had some bad De Molen experiences in the past).

A: As predicted, it pours absolutely no head whatsoever - even with a vigorous as hell pour. A beige white floater is present about the edges, adding little in the way of appearance. That's what you get when De Molen tackles a 15.20% beer. Colour is a dark rusty caramel-copper. Nontransparent. Non-opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Wonderful malts - among them biscuit and seemingly well-balanced dark and bright malts. Wonderful caramelization, evoking the wort-like aroma of an ongoing brew. Some booze comes through, but quite little for the ABV. Shockingly, the hops seem complementary to the style and flavour profile, not intruding upon it like so many bad beers in the style. A moderate strength aroma. No yeast or alcohol comes through. Has De Molen actually pulled off a good English Barleywine?

T: Quite sugary. Yes, sugar, sugar, more sugar, and a hint of molasses - all over a heavy dose of caramelization. Quite sweet; I assume this is to drown out the ABV - which it does most admirably. It resembles port, but lacks sufficient depth of fruit character to make the resemblance favorable. I do like the fig, but it's in dire need of more. Plums or raisins would do nicely to complement the flavours here, but sadly are not present. In any case, it's a sugar bomb. Hops are vague and indistinct, but stay on the fringe, never entering the body enough to add any real flavour - not that they could with all the sugary malt bomb action. It's damned overwhelming. No yeast comes through, nor does any alcohol - which is a damn fine accomplishment at 15.20%.

It's just a shame there's so little flavour here. No depth, complexity, or subtlety at all. It feels like a homebrew experiment in concealing alcohol. Sure, the yeast ate all the malt, but where do we go from here?

I will say that the alcohol yields a warming sensation in the stomach. I consider this a plus. Moreover, the one note that does stick out is a hint of toffee, which is relatively easy to find and comes in spades on the climax. It lacks dimension, but it's there.

I like it in a general sense, but it's far from great. I'm just glad it's not overhopped.

Mf: Thick as hell from the sugar bomb, resembling the milk leftover in a cereal bowl after an infant gets done with his chocolatey sugar bombs. Understandable, but far from ideal. It's smooth and wet. Syrupy. Undercarbonated - a seeming De Molen common trait. Doesn't feel tailored to the flavour profile, but sure it suits it in a general sense. The mouthfeel does what it can to ensure this 15.20% brew slides down easily enough, and I respect that.

Dr: It's drinkable as all hell for the ABV, but where is the craftsmanship? I could easily get pissed on this brew; in fact I'd go so far as to say it's dangerous. But there's so little on the table here. I wouldn't even want to buy it just to age it; what is there here that would mature over time? It's a fair offering from De Molen, but it's held back considerably by its simplicity. I'm glad they avoided the usual pitfalls of the style, but this is far from a great example of the style. Decently priced for what it is. I've given it a high rating in this category because it truly is a masterclass in hiding ABV.

B-*

*I originally gave this one a C+, but it gets considerably better as it warms, letting the fig notes come out. I adjusted my score to a B-.

Photo of Halcyondays
3.85/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cL bottle, OG is 1.150, FG 1.041 so I had to try it, brewed on Tax Day '10, bottled 8/19/10, the day before my mom's birthday, No. 2194/2304,

A: Pours a murky reddish brown. No true head, just some light bubbles. In the style, it's OK.

S: Heavily malty. Raisins and dried fruit. Prunes, brown sugar.

T: Lots of sugary dark fruit. Raisins, figs, dates, big flavours. Somewhat boozy. Not a huge complexity but it tastes good. 53 IBUs, but you're not going to taste any of it.

M: Smooth, very full-bodied and viscous, no carbonation, drinks like a dessert wine. These types of beers can have no carbonation and be fine.

D: It says it can age 25 years and I believe it, a good place to start. Definitely needs to age and bring more complexities to the forefront. Glad to try it.

Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev +3.6%

Photo of corby112
3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours a dark aramel ruby red chestnut brown color light orange hues very thin off white head

Sweet alcohol aroma with some leathery caramel malt toffee raisin and other dark fruit

Chewy fuller body with sweetness from malt and alcohol but not much heat. Abv well masked. Very drinkable toffee caramel raisin dark frut burn toward the end sweet

Photo of superspak
3.95/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle into snifter, bottled on 8/24/2011. Pours hazy/cloudy dark ruby red color with minimal head or lacing. Some light carbonation bubbles linger at the surface. Aromas of big raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown bread, brown sugar, light leather, herbal, and herbal/toasted earthiness. Very nice aromas with good balance and complexity of dark fruitiness and dark/bready malt sweetness; with good strength. Taste of big raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown sugar, brown bread, light leather, herbal, and herbal/toasted earthiness. Light earthy herbal bitterness on the finish; with lingering notes of raisin, plum, fig, date, apple, caramel, molasses, toast, toffee, brown sugar, brown bread, herbal, and toasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Damn nice complexity and balance of dark fruitiness and rich dark/bready malt flavors; with a good malt/bitterness balance and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light carbonation and very full bodied; with very slick and fairly syrupy mouthfeel that is good. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a light warming present after the finish. Overall this is a damn nice English barleywine. All around good complexity and balance of dark fruitiness and rich dark/bready malt sweetness; and very smooth to sip on for the big ABV. A very enjoyable offering.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
3.05/5  rDev -21%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Pours a hazed but bright orange-red, almost brown, with absolutely no head whatsoever. It doesn't even fizz as I uncap it. It looks still and heavy and dormant in the glass. Looks very heavy, however; full and thick in the body, with some very small suspended sediment flecks that somehow escaped my ostensibly careful pour. Very interesting, at least.

Nose is big, portly and boozy. Big, rich and sweet, slightly spiritous aromas, that don't particularly rip at my nostrils with their intensity, but which certainly suggest big flavours to come. Lots of brown sugar syrup, dusted coconut ice, and sweet pastry. It's all very round and rich.

Taste is extremely sweet, almost to the extremities of decency. Huge sugary sweetness of roasted toffee, strawberry tart, and straight down the line candy. There's nothing else to it, except the mild acidity through the centre which just evokes different types of lightly fruity and massively heavy sweetness. Feel is smooth and thick as anything.

No, this is too much, as far as I'm concerned. This is a beer that has gone way too far one way and has become unbalanced and difficult to drink. Maybe you're not meant to drink it - maybe you're meant to pour it over ice cream as some sort of sickly delicious sugar syrup, but as a beer, even to sip, it's beyond redemption.

Photo of Huhzubendah
4.03/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by ygtbsm94. Thanks Brad!

The beer is amber to orange in color, with a thin, rapidly fading head that leaves virtually no lacing on the glass.

The aroma is sweet and fruity, with malt, apples, grapes, alcohol.

The flavor is reminiscent of a port wine. Sweet, earthy, rich. Additional notes of caramels soaked in alcohol.

Medium bodied with low carbonation. Ideal for sipping slowly.

Best in small quantities, I certainly enjoyed my portion. I would have this again.

Photo of afsdan
4/5  rDev +3.6%

Photo of jdhilt
4.4/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Pours a two-finger off-white head that fades very slowly leaving a good lace. Cloudy amber color, some yeast left in bottle. Medium carbonation and medium bodied. Sweet almost syrupy nose and flavor is sweet toffee, not cloying, high ABV is hidden. Pricey at $11.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Westborough, Ma. Brewed Jul 2012.

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.6/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A 2009 small bottle, red wax.

A liquid caramel pour, perhaps a shade darker. Slick. Little off-brown head. Legs on the side.

Aroma is strong. Malty. Sweet. Rich caramel and candied sugar. Hard to detect anything much after that due to alcohol.

Strong flavors. Caramel and toffee dominate. Candied apples--overripe. Sweet fruits, raisin. Fain wet leather some herbal spice thrown around.

Syrupy feel to it, no carbonation and that surprises me a little bit given the abv and bottle conditioning. Boozey on the end. Glad it was the small bottle

Photo of glid02
3.8/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle.

Pours a hazy chestnut brown color with a wispy light tan head. The head quickly dissipates leaving no lacing but decent legs.

Smells of sweet and syrupy caramel malts with good amounts of dark toffee. Also present are large amounts of ripe plums and figs and milder amounts of brandy aromas.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Sticky caramel malt flavors with large amounts of toffee and butterscotch flavors kick things off. Shortly thereafter moderate amounts of brandy-soaked plum and raisin flavors work their way into things, carrying through to a decidedly sweet ending.

Mouthfeel is good. It's got a smooth thickness with very soft carbonation.

Drinkability is OK. I finished my glass without a problem however I'm not sure about another.

Overall this was a big still barleywine - certainly on the sweet side but after a certain ABV it's almost impossible to make them otherwise. I'd enjoy seeing beers over 12% available in the Rogue nip bottles as 12 oz. is almost always too much. Anyways, it's a tasty beer that's worth a shot.

Photo of dirtylou
3.98/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

33cl bottle, brought back from Holland.

#2069/2506

bottled 8/27/09 - best consumed within 25 years

appearance: standard black typewriter font on white label, eroded red wax over the cap. the cap pops to absolutely no sound and is poured into my delirium chalice. clear amber mahogany turns to a cloud as the sediment sneaks in. no head, a few misplaced bubbles that instantly vanish

smell: caramel, tobacco, molasses, pine sap, rum covered fruit

taste: 15.2% is buried somewhere - quite sweet but lacking any real bitterness - caramel, rum soaked apple and plum, brown sugar, citrus peel. fascinating how well the alcohol hides (at least on the palate) - otherwise, not particularly exciting but a fun ride

mouthfeel: no carbonation, medium body, slightly syrupy

overall: not de molen's finest work, but a dangerously drinkable abv monster

Photo of bark
3.71/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Vintage 2012.

The colour is amber (25 EBC), the liquid is clear. The two finger head is compact and off-white; it sinks very slowly leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell is sweet and a bit sour. Some bitterness, raisins, ripe apples, green plants, minerals, and smooth alcohol. It is quite strong, although I have expected even more sweetness.

The taste is very, very sweet. Apple juice, minerals, ripe red fruits and some biscuits. Medium to full body. The aftertaste is also sweet with raisins and dried fruits, minerals and chalk. The long finish is sweet with lots of toffee.

The carbonation is strong, the small bubbles are long-lasting. The liquid is thick and sticky, yet a bit dry.

There is almost no alcohol in the taste which is impressive. There are lots of mineral-chalk in this one, a bit too much I think.

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Bommen & Granaten from Brouwerij De Molen
87 out of 100 based on 150 ratings.