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Bommen & Granaten - Brouwerij De Molen

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Bommen & GranatenBommen & Granaten

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BA SCORE
86
very good

132 Ratings
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Ratings: 132
Reviews: 72
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 15.89%
Wants: 16
Gots: 45 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
English Barleywine |  15.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
750ml: 53.9 IBU
330ml: 57 IBU

(Beer added by: hoppymeal on 11-12-2008)
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ChugginOil

Illinois

3.55/5  rDev -7.6%

Pours a translucent, dark amber color with barely any head, whatsoever. No lacing.

The nose has notes of caramel, figs and plums. The high abv is fairly muted but makes a slight presence. Sweet smells dominate here.

The flavors are dark fruit forward and are also quite sweet as the nose suggested. A ton of sweet and giant flavors. There is a decent amount of caramel flavors that also add to the sweetness.

The mouthfeel is full-bodied and thick. Barely any carbonation.

Overall, this is a stand-up barleywine that hides it's deadly ABV nicely. Just a bit too sweet.

11-26-2012 07:23:15 | More by ChugginOil
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samEBC

Belgium

3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

11-15-2012 17:06:26 | More by samEBC
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Dope

Massachusetts

3.95/5  rDev +2.9%

Bottled August 19th, 2010. Just over 2 years old. Bottle 1561 out of 2304.

A: Pours a rusty reddish-brown. No hiss when uncapping. Zero carbonation or lacing (of course). Completely flat.

S: Boozy raisins and dark fruits. Molasses and caramel. Very sweet, it literally smells syrupy with all the caramel and molasses in there.

T: Very boozy. Loads of raisin and caramel up front. A bit of molasses kicks in in the middle. Brown sugar and more raisin in the finish. A touch of apple lingers in the aftertaste too. Did I mention it's boozy? Spicy alcohol everywhere. However, not overpoweringly so and not like pure spirits. But close. Warms the belly on the very first sip, if that gives you any indication.

M: Heavy and thick but the strong alcohol cuts it quite a bit and keeps it from becoming cloying despite the lack of carbonation.

O: Very intense barleywine. Very big, very sweet and fruity. A sipper for sure, especially since it is dead flat. But surprisingly not as harsh as you'd think and surprisingly balanced for what you get. To be honest, I enjoyed it as a really unique and strong barleywine.

11-09-2012 04:14:52 | More by Dope
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Etan

Wisconsin

3.25/5  rDev -15.4%

330ml bottle into a tulip. Bottled in August, 2010 (#393/2304).

A: Murky reddish brown with a small head of coarse off-white bubbles. Pretty ugly.

S: Sweet and slightly oxidized. Grapes and raisins, fig, brown sugar, a bit of a solvent note from the alcohol.

T: Not quite as sweet as the aroma, with some savory roasted grain qualities to it to offer a bit of balance. Mushed raisins, prunes, burnt sugar. Warming.

M: Thick and syrupy. Flat.

O: I don't see this beer going anywhere good. Meh.

10-22-2012 01:57:41 | More by Etan
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Phyl21ca

Quebec (Canada)

1.93/5  rDev -49.7%

Bottle: Poured a transparent amber color ale with zero head. Aroma of dry fruits, oxidation and sweet corn notes is quite intense. Taste is also dominated by warm alcohol ester notes with some corn, some oxidized caramel malt notes with intense dry fruit and loads of residual sugar. Body has an oily like texture with zero carbonation and loads of alcohol was apparent. This was bottle in 2010 and is supposedly good for another 25 years! I can’t say I was very impressed with this beer as way too much alcohol and sugar was perceptible. There seems to be a trend of zero carbonation and high-gravity beer with no attenuation and I just don’t get it.

10-19-2012 19:41:39 | More by Phyl21ca
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TheBishopco

Tennessee

3.5/5  rDev -8.9%

10-17-2012 01:46:59 | More by TheBishopco
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Resuin

Massachusetts

3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

10-08-2012 05:21:46 | More by Resuin
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kevanb

Illinois

3.68/5  rDev -4.2%

33cl bottle poured into a snifter. Brewed on April 15, 2010, bottled August 29, 2010. Bottle #1725/2304.

The beer pours a good amber color, lots of dark brown influence, very opaque and hazy. However, it looks extremely flat, no head, no lacing, just a bubble or two when shaken vigorously, not very pleasant or inviting. The aroma is wonderful, lovely malt sweetness, big grains as if from a soft brown bread, nice fruit presence, tart apples, plums and dark cherries even, molasses, caramels, brown sugars are all there, great balance as well. Despite the sweetness from the malts and sugary aspects found on the nose, alcohol is hidden very well, especially for the high gravity. The flavors are solid, nice tart apples to start, brown sugar and molasses are right behind it followed by a long smooth malt experience, grains, sweetness, almost a honey like flavor comes through as well with some dark fruits and a hint of booze at the finish. Unfortunately, as suspected, the beer is completely flat, syrupy in texture with no liveliness. It's a bit hard to get down, viscous in nature, and really detracts from the entire experience. I found it more enjoyable when sipped very slowly, in small servings, like a port wine, but still rather unpleasant.

Verdict: So much potential here, wonderful aroma, great flavorings, but just poor delivery. The lack of any carbonation ruins any hope of having a good experience with this beer, perhaps it's just the age of the bottle, and maybe some oxidation setting in, although it really didn't taste like that was the case and many other reviewers, even of fresher bottles have complained about the mouthfeel as well, so I'm not convinced.

09-20-2012 01:51:33 | More by kevanb
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Lee45102

Ohio

3.25/5  rDev -15.4%

08-26-2012 05:10:02 | More by Lee45102
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safaricook

Netherlands

2.5/5  rDev -34.9%

08-24-2012 23:10:44 | More by safaricook
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Happyhopper

New York

2/5  rDev -47.9%

08-13-2012 02:16:46 | More by Happyhopper
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toneigh

Illinois

5/5  rDev +30.2%

07-28-2012 18:28:35 | More by toneigh
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AaronBurr

Illinois

3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

07-24-2012 04:53:52 | More by AaronBurr
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ajs4bd

Missouri

4.75/5  rDev +23.7%

07-13-2012 11:27:59 | More by ajs4bd
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kojevergas

Texas

3.38/5  rDev -12%

11.2 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a conical Guinness pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. "Enjoy within 25 years" - pretentious bastards. Recommended serving temperature 15 C. Expectations are above average, yet I fear it will be over-hopped like many English Barleywines. Brewed and bottled August 24th, 2011.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm considerably over the course of consumption. Side-poured with extra vigor as carbonation issues are absolutely anticipated (I've had some bad De Molen experiences in the past).

A: As predicted, it pours absolutely no head whatsoever - even with a vigorous as hell pour. A beige white floater is present about the edges, adding little in the way of appearance. That's what you get when De Molen tackles a 15.20% beer. Colour is a dark rusty caramel-copper. Nontransparent. Non-opaque. No yeast particles are visible. No bubble show.

Sm: Wonderful malts - among them biscuit and seemingly well-balanced dark and bright malts. Wonderful caramelization, evoking the wort-like aroma of an ongoing brew. Some booze comes through, but quite little for the ABV. Shockingly, the hops seem complementary to the style and flavour profile, not intruding upon it like so many bad beers in the style. A moderate strength aroma. No yeast or alcohol comes through. Has De Molen actually pulled off a good English Barleywine?

T: Quite sugary. Yes, sugar, sugar, more sugar, and a hint of molasses - all over a heavy dose of caramelization. Quite sweet; I assume this is to drown out the ABV - which it does most admirably. It resembles port, but lacks sufficient depth of fruit character to make the resemblance favorable. I do like the fig, but it's in dire need of more. Plums or raisins would do nicely to complement the flavours here, but sadly are not present. In any case, it's a sugar bomb. Hops are vague and indistinct, but stay on the fringe, never entering the body enough to add any real flavour - not that they could with all the sugary malt bomb action. It's damned overwhelming. No yeast comes through, nor does any alcohol - which is a damn fine accomplishment at 15.20%.

It's just a shame there's so little flavour here. No depth, complexity, or subtlety at all. It feels like a homebrew experiment in concealing alcohol. Sure, the yeast ate all the malt, but where do we go from here?

I will say that the alcohol yields a warming sensation in the stomach. I consider this a plus. Moreover, the one note that does stick out is a hint of toffee, which is relatively easy to find and comes in spades on the climax. It lacks dimension, but it's there.

I like it in a general sense, but it's far from great. I'm just glad it's not overhopped.

Mf: Thick as hell from the sugar bomb, resembling the milk leftover in a cereal bowl after an infant gets done with his chocolatey sugar bombs. Understandable, but far from ideal. It's smooth and wet. Syrupy. Undercarbonated - a seeming De Molen common trait. Doesn't feel tailored to the flavour profile, but sure it suits it in a general sense. The mouthfeel does what it can to ensure this 15.20% brew slides down easily enough, and I respect that.

Dr: It's drinkable as all hell for the ABV, but where is the craftsmanship? I could easily get pissed on this brew; in fact I'd go so far as to say it's dangerous. But there's so little on the table here. I wouldn't even want to buy it just to age it; what is there here that would mature over time? It's a fair offering from De Molen, but it's held back considerably by its simplicity. I'm glad they avoided the usual pitfalls of the style, but this is far from a great example of the style. Decently priced for what it is. I've given it a high rating in this category because it truly is a masterclass in hiding ABV.

B-*

*I originally gave this one a C+, but it gets considerably better as it warms, letting the fig notes come out. I adjusted my score to a B-.

07-08-2012 05:06:10 | More by kojevergas
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Harkrank

Sweden

4.75/5  rDev +23.7%

07-03-2012 20:47:57 | More by Harkrank
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GONZALOYANNA

Spain

4.78/5  rDev +24.5%

330ml bottle. Snifter glass. Review on jul´12. Reddish amber color. Foggy appearance. Yellowish beige, medium to small bubbled, froth creates creamy, fairly good retention, crown. Noble hop, spicy, intense caramel malt & candy aromas with hints of cinnamon. Sweet caramel malts, very ripe fruits –peach & apricot-, gentle warming & subtle bitterness at first sip. Buttery, plentiful & voluptuous palate. Raisin & sweet grapefruit in the middle. Full body, low carbonation. Smooth, creamy, slightly earthy finish. Aftertaste carries sugar cane, brown sugar & soft rhum-like hues. Amazing well balanced flavors & aromas. Delightful. Mandatory beer!!! Comment: Last year I enjoyed a 750ml bottle. I remember it so delicious but no notes were taken. Well, looking at labels I´ve realized: 750ml ltd. Ed. -#113- bottle 24,3EBC 53,9IBU but 330ml bottle 45EBC 57IBU.

07-01-2012 15:13:11 | More by GONZALOYANNA
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jsnoek

Ontario (Canada)

4.5/5  rDev +17.2%

06-28-2012 00:39:20 | More by jsnoek
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drabmuh

Maryland

3.63/5  rDev -5.5%

Thanks Brad, I couldn't drink a lot of this but it was interesting to try. Beer is amber and hazy with a thin white head of low retention.

Aroma is vinous and fruity with some alcohol.

Beer is like port, raisins and grapes with a fortified liquor quality to it, interesting but not great. I liked it but wouldn't have much of it.

06-19-2012 01:38:21 | More by drabmuh
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Cyberkedi

Georgia

3.05/5  rDev -20.6%

Strong, syrupy aroma is rather sweet, not really like beer at all, with notes of molasses and honey. It pours a clear, dark cola brown with a skimpy head that doesn’t hang around long. Flavor is quite sweet, more like wine than beer - and watch out for that alcohol bite! Well, look at the ABV and then wonder why it bites like an angry pit bull. Texture is rather like a hard liquor, mainly raw alcohol bite with some sweet and fruity and molasses hints. I prefer a beer that smells, tastes and feels like beer. However, different strokes for different folks.

06-17-2012 20:00:31 | More by Cyberkedi
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eawolff99

Colorado

3.75/5  rDev -2.3%

06-14-2012 14:15:06 | More by eawolff99
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Huhzubendah

District of Columbia

4.03/5  rDev +4.9%

Bottle shared by ygtbsm94. Thanks Brad!

The beer is amber to orange in color, with a thin, rapidly fading head that leaves virtually no lacing on the glass.

The aroma is sweet and fruity, with malt, apples, grapes, alcohol.

The flavor is reminiscent of a port wine. Sweet, earthy, rich. Additional notes of caramels soaked in alcohol.

Medium bodied with low carbonation. Ideal for sipping slowly.

Best in small quantities, I certainly enjoyed my portion. I would have this again.

06-04-2012 20:24:18 | More by Huhzubendah
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AgentMunky

California

3.48/5  rDev -9.4%

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a brandy snifter. Brewed on 15 April 2010. Bottled on 19 August 2010. Batch of 2304 bottles. Bottle 2221.

A: Lots of sediment. NO head. Russet. Translucent.

S: Grapes and molasses. Deep, strong, and sweet.

T/M: Incredibly smooth, round, and sticky. It doesn't taste like 15.2%. No carbonation, but loads of sugars. Rich, brandy-like fruit. One dimensional, but pleasant.

O: Overpowering and oversweet, but a pretty good English barleywine. Wouldn't have again, but might recommend.

Notes
OG: 1150
FG: 1041
EBC Colour: 24.3
ABV: 15.2%
Bittering hops: Nugget
Final hops: Chez Saaz
EBU: 53.9

05-16-2012 06:16:48 | More by AgentMunky
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imperialking

Illinois

4/5  rDev +4.2%

05-11-2012 01:48:59 | More by imperialking
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BRW

Spain

5/5  rDev +30.2%

05-06-2012 10:07:15 | More by BRW
Bommen & Granaten from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 132 ratings.