Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Ratings: 542
Reviews: 196
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 10.58%
Wants: 45
Gots: 149 | FT: 8
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009

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Ratings: 542 | Reviews: 196
Photo of farrago
3.73/5  rDev -10.3%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Meager dusting of tan brown foam across the surface, barely stretches across and gone quickly after the pour, barely any lacing. The liquid passes dark brown into black, slight tint of yellow at rims and glass bottom, some particulate visible floating about, any bubbles are highly random. Strong roast to the nose, coffee and dark chocolate interlaced with licorice, caramel and milk notes, displays a noticeable herbaceous character, a touch stiff and unyielding, you get more by way of dried meat than any sweeter fruit accents. In the mouth it’s medium-bodied and heavier on the bottom, pushes down into the tongue. Too dry to really develop a creamy feel and that roast inclines it more towards bitter than sweet. Coffee, grilled nuts, chocolate, licorice and some granola, oatmeal. Here there might be plum, date or raisin flavorings. The herbal side is less overt, yet there is a burnt ashen thing going down. Due to the lack of sweetness it lacks length at the finish and develops a thinner weight. So, in the end, it’s kinda more flash than substance even if by no stretch a bad beer.

Photo of Stinkypuss
4.48/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

LOOK: Dark brown with a very creamy head. Lacing is left down the snifter. No floaties, and though dark and opaque due to the malts, would probably have good clarity if poured in a smaller vessel.

SMELL: Roasted malts, smoke, peat, vanilla, city smog. Chocolates and coffee come through very nicely with chocolate malts living up to their name.

TASTE: Decadent flavour of chocolates, vanillin, roasted malts, mocha coffee, and a small bitterness. Astringent roast is minimal but there, which is good to provide some difference from the lush caramunich and chocolate malt flavours.

FEEL: Full bodied but lighter than some in the same range, its damn smooth and drinks like water. Seriously delicious and impressively easy to quaff.

OVERALL: This is a really, really damn good version of this style. Perfect amount of aroma, flavor and body. Looks great too. Bravo!!

Photo of jbwimer
4.04/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Thin, but a nice balance of roast and sweet chocolate with flecks of burnt caramel. Aged quite gracefully.

Photo of aleigator
4/5  rDev -3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge, brown foam, coal black color.

Aromas are defined by fresh roasted coffee beans and burned malts, with hints of bitter chocolate, almost espresso-like, with biting alcohol.

Begins sugary sweet, with toffee and bready malts. Then an intense bitterness rises up from the back of the palate, which contains a huge load of coffee and espresso beans. Sweeter flavors are still noteable on the palate, but only support the bitterness in a moderate and complex fashion. The Finish adds a warm, stinging alcohol note to the full coffee body, with a soft, smooth, almost oily, bitter finish. Carbonation gets recognizable in the end, as it is very lively, still fitting, adding a subtle copper hint to the dry, coffeeish tobacco character of this beer.

Photo of helios7
3.05/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Thin and sharp-tasting. Characteristic bourbon-aged ale taste, but with a harsh, inescapable astringency. Perhaps a bad bottle?

Photo of M_J_Z
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Tried this on draft last night. It was really good! This was my second time having this beer (the first time was from a bottle). I didn't love it as much last night as I did the first time (though I didn't notice any difference between draft/bottle), but I still enjoyed it a lot. Solid 4-4.25. The richness and roastiness stood out to me, and it's very drinkable and satisfying.

Photo of Kevinpitts
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Bottle aged for 3.5 years. Got at Bavarian Lodge. Wow. What a great beer. Tastes of coffee. Soooo smooth. Super yummy! Had this fresh from a barrel too. Still good, though aging helped immensely. Aged: 4.5. Fresh: 4.25.

Photo of freneticamnesic
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

A- pours deep dark brown, not entirely black; thin light brown head

S - chocolate and toffee

T - toffee, oats, sour licorice, dark chocolate, caramel

M - medium bodied, a bit thin for a RIS, but typical for most of the Dutch versions

O - overall good flavour profile, very enjoyableand solid RIS; but nothing amazing

Photo of Patbrown2
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Maybe the best stout I've ever had, which might not be saying a lot. Delicious chocolate-y flavor. High alc % is hidden nicely.

Photo of cavedave
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thick, black, almost still with just a thin ring, and bit of bubbly film atop to even hint at carbonation.

Dark caramel, molasses, rooty herbal backing, burnt sugar, coffee, and some light roast in the medium strength aroma. Nice.

Good gawd what a blast of deep, dark flavor. It overwhelms the palate in a thick wave of burnt caramel, blackest molasses, bitter chocolate, and almost acrid bitter roast malts. In a good way. It oozes into the mouth, and stays on palate long after swallow. Alcohol is a major player, spicy, hot, vaporous, and intense. In a good way. As it warms dark fruits start to appear, and hoppy bitter accompanies the roast. Crazy and delicious.

Almost no carb., viscous beyond belief, finish that is very lasting roasty bitter and heat.

Looking for a stout that will curl your mustache and melt your nosehairs? This is it. Not for the faint of heart, this would probably kill a Bud Light drinker.

Photo of Chico1985
3.63/5  rDev -12.7%

330ml bottle dated 6-4-13 poured into a snifter.

Black pour is pretty much still. A very small brown ring forms. Glass-staining. Oh De Molen.

Smells of dusty chocolate, cigar box, roast, dark fruit, molasses. Decent depth with a nice aged feel to it, but kinda muted.

Taste leans more towards the sweet side with flavors of chocolate liqueur, molasses and dark fruits. Kind of a burnt tobacco and coffee grounds thing going on. Definitely getting the brown malts as well, along with some light hop bitterness.

Mouthfeel is more or less not carbonated, which honestly isn't a huge deterrent for this beer, but it does take away from full enjoyment. Other than that, good medium heftiness, impressively hidden alcohol.

I've had a few bottles of this and I gotta say it really is a mixed bag. This one that I happened to review unfortunately was pretty 'meh' compared to others I've had. De Molen's big beers seem to either be a real treat or a missed opportunity, I wish they were more consistent. I will update scores/add notes with further experiences with this one.

Photo of MDDMD
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

A-dark brown black color with a decent tan head and good lacing

S-dark malt, coffee, chocolate, wood, light caramel

T-chocolate, dark roasted malt, coffee, caramel, little dark fruit, hint of licorice, slight char

F-medium body with moderate carbonation, smooth and creamy

O-a very nice well-balanced stout, enjoyable sipping

Photo of StaveHooks
4.64/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

A - pours completely opaque with a thick 1/2 inch khaki head on top.

S - decadent roasted coffee, intense dark chocolate, minerals, sweet cream, full on roasted malts. Coffee coated raisins.

T - follows the nose to a tee. Charred coffee, tons of dark chocolate, sweet cream, chocolate malts and coffee dominate with some lightly scorched caramel underneath. Finishes dry with strong coffee, chocolate, and hints of sweet charred caramel.

M - creamy lush body with a good amount of lively carbonation.

This is a coffee and chocolate explosion in your mouth. I've had this bottle for 4 months do it's not super fresh but it taste like its straight from the tit. This is one of the best coffee RIS's I've had the pleasure of tasting. This is a must have.

Photo of boudeysbigbrew
4.14/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

appearance - As black as black can be with dark brown edges. Had a semi medium aggressive pour which surprisingly resulted in zero head.

smell - dark chocolate is the most prominent thing that comes to mind

taste - Major coffee and chocolate hints to be found. Somewhat nutty. Not much boozyness to be found here.

mouthfeel - Medium thickness. Not quite as thick as I like my imperial stouts to be. Practically no carbonation.

overall - I'm in the netherlands for a month due to a work project, so obviously I immediately searched out the solid offerings this country has. Turns out Europe does not have the infatuation with stouts like we do here in America. Overall though, this is a pretty solid russian imperial stout that has managed to soothe my needs for a European stout.

Photo of babaracas
4.09/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 1/13. Bourbon barrel aged at 10%. Pours a near black with very dark brown edges, one finger thick soapy light brown head. Settles to a thin layer with a few streaks of lace on the glass. Smell: chocolate cake batter. Tons of chocolate, no roast, sweet (faded) bourbon note, molasses and prune. Taste: dark chocolate brownies, tons of dark brown sugar, earthy note, toasted brown bread note. Mostly it's sweet and chocolaty with added booze sweetness. Full bodied, low carbonation, syrupy-light feel. Tasty.

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A-Pours black! Good start. The body barfs up a spongy, brown head that slowly deflates. Leaves random, thick lacing.

S-It's hard to describe how the aroma is unique but it is. It's super roasty with chocolate, but aren't all the good Stouts like that? There is something about this one that smells unique. Maybe a sip will enhance my ability to describe...

T-It really reminds me of chocolate covered hazelnuts. Well, maybe not just hazelnuts but a medley of nuts. Also it reminds me of nut flavored coffee. There is also a cool cola aspect to the flavor as well.

M-It's nearly flat...I remember reading on the label that you could age this for 25 years. Well I guess they're going for that flatness because there is no way it'll be more carbonated when I'm 50. It's got a big body with booze that isn't shy.

O-Pretty tasty. Carves it's own niche in a style that I find hard to find flavor intricacies.

Photo of mwilbur
4.56/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into snifter. Bottle stamped 23 JAN. 2014.
A: Pours a smooth, deep cola brown with just a thin skim of dark tan head that quickly dissipates.
S: Dry leather, wood, caramel malt, brown sugar, and a hint of tobacco. Tending toward dark and sweet notes.
T: Caramel malt (distinct English brown malt) and smooth cream up front. In the mid-palate, this takes a distinct turn toward harsher and darker notes...burnt wood, supple and old leather, a fresh alcohol bite, dark and bitter chocolate, and a hint of dark tobacco cigar. With warming, spicy pepper (almost cayenne-like), toffee, and licorice notes emerge. Very good to start and becomes near perfect with warming.
M: Wow...a definite highlight of the beer. Starts surprisingly light (medium body) given the ABV. Also begins smooth, sweet, and creamy. Then turns toward bitter with an alcohol burn (still retains the sweetness...now heavier and darker though). Tremendous lingering finish...bittersweet and slightly astringent. Sweetly sticky feel.
D: The further I got into this beer, the more I liked it. Deceivingly complex. Very interesting as far as the style goes...not your typical RIS (most are harsh and dark straight through; this one starts lighter, smoother, and highlights the English brown malt...before turning toward more traditional RIS notes). Glad I got to try it...seek it out! The bottle says it can be enjoyed within 25 years; I got a couple more to see...

Photo of DmanGTR
4.64/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Had this several times during our tastings.

Very dark brown, nearly black. Off white head when it's carbonated, otherwise it leaves a faint trace of bubbles. Lots going on here. Huge notes of coffee grinds, dark chocolate, burnt toast, leather, earth, cremini mushrooms, figs, and prunes. Layers and layers repeat themselves as you smell and sip. Medium bodied, alcohol barely noticeable. I highly recommend this great example of a RIS.

Photo of WantonFaun
4.71/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

This is a criminally underrated imperial stout. For me, it ranks with the likes of BCBS in intensity, but offers a dry, bitter dark chocolate profile paired with dark fruit compared to BCBS's graham/chocolate/marshmallow s'more blast. Drank alongside BCBS for comparison, and my buddy preferred this!

Photo of tmzl
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Look: Syrupy pour with delicious, creamy, average size, dark mocha head. Has good retention, bubbles popping away slowly, creates a creamy, thick top layer, which leaves very fine lacing. Some carbonation visible on the side of the glass. Dark, dark brown, can't see through. Some yeast bodies sediment to the bottom. Everything as it should be.

Smell: Roasted coffee with caramel and dark chocolate up front. Also some milk chocolate with dried plums, nuts and vanilla. A bit of freshness from sour dark berries, dark fruit. It's sweet, fat, creamy, stuffy, you can feel those 24 Plato degrees that went into this beast. Couldn't stop smelling it - rich, as soon as you find one note, another one comes along.

Taste: Medium (to high) sweetness, starts with mostly caramel and some burned sugar, milk chocolate with light berry sourness (makes it fresher and juicier), dry plums. Then it transfers into dominant roasted coffee with some dark chocolate. Roasted coffee driven medium to high bitterness with a tiny bit of alcohol finish the ride. Some soft chocolaty notes come out deep in the after-taste.

Mouthfeel: Full body, creamy almost syrupy. A very faint hint of alcohol warmth. A big, fat beast.

Overall: It's quite a beer. A fat one, full of darker malt wonders. Good play of flavours and balanced but still relatively demanding - not for your everyday, but well worth your time, when you have that fat stout urge.

Photo of spoony
4.11/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

From a 330 ml bottle (label says February 29, 2012) into a snifter. My bottle says 10.0% ABV, not 10.2%.

A-The pour is heavy and syrupy. The beer mostly lacks head. Instead, a thin cap fades to collar immediately. No lacing on the glass. The beer is black and still-looking.

S-The aroma is a big, bold mixture of cream, milk and dark dark chocolate, a touch of dark-roasted coffee and some caramel. There is a hint of roasty bitterness that is balanced nicely by the sweetness of the caramel. Alcohol is hidden.

T-The taste tracks the smell. This is a rich and creamy flavored beer with lots of chocolate, cocoa, and a bit of roasted coffee. The caramel is somewhat less assertive on the palate than on the nose, but there is a bit of roasted barley and toast there now. Again, the 10.0% ABV is hidden in there.

M-The feel is thick, syrupy and flat. Sort of a let-down.

O-This would be a world class stout if it had some (even a tiny bit) carbonation. The aroma and taste are intense, balanced, and pretty damn delicious. It almost tastes barrel-aged with little hints of bourbon and vanilla in there. I will definitely consider buying another bottle of this to see if I just got a bad seal or if the brewer really intended the beer to be flat.

Photo of SeatsTaken
4.41/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

Pour: Poured into a snifter. Spent engine oil with the faintest glimmer of head.

Aroma: If creamy dark chocolate exists, it's in this beer. There's sour raisins, a little burnt brownie, some slightly nuttiness, dried plum and dark roast coffee at the end. I can easily picture this being served as an after-dinner drink.

Taste: The first thing that hits you is burnt chocolate with a hint of nut. Over ripened plum follows with very bitter coffee and alcohol at the end. My mouth is still buzzing from the ABV and coffee flavor well after tasting.

Mouthfeel: Low to no carbonation. Very dense on the tongue. This beer coats your mouth and leaves a mild alcohol sting. I'm getting the same sensation as drinking cold brewed coffee. It also numbs the throat slightly.

Overall: There are some very interesting flavors but I can imagine this may be sensory overload for some. It's definitely an event beer that's meant to be shared. I'd suggest pairing with a cigar. This is a harsh beer that needs to be paired with similarly harsh flavors, in a good way.

Photo of biegaman
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Hel & Verdoemenis ("Hell & Damnation") looks dark and evil enough that Satan himself may have spawned it. It is pitch-black and, unlike so many Russian Imperial Stouts, doesn't even have brown edging along its trim; it's black through and through. No head formed, not even from a hard, entirely upright pour.

The aroma has blocks of bakers chocolate, hints of barbecue stones, blackberry jam, and stale coffee grounds. It amounts to be one tall order even for a RIS. This is the point where anyone who didn't know ahead of time what they were getting themselves into will bail; it's more than a little intimidating if you're not familiar with the style.

A dollop of French vanilla ice cream is added to the beer's dark chocolatey profile. Coffee is more noticeable in the flavour as well, as are dark dried fruits and black licorice which tend to linger all the way through the aftertaste. It ticks off all the flavour boxes on the RIS checklist but isn't exactly flashy; it leaves a thing or two to be desired.

The mouthfeel has hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness and a dryness that is reminiscent of oak, though this original version isn't barrel-aged. My imagination is trying to convince of me of a dash of cinnamon-like spice, but in reality this beer is oily and bitter as black coffee.

Drinking Imperial Stouts is like gazing up at a mountain top: just as you'd look up and wonder "how could anyone climb that high?" you're left contemplating "how can barley and hops end up tasting so rich and decadent?". Here, Brouwerij De Molen has offered up a Kilimanjaro of a beer.

Photo of jdhilt
4.07/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a one finger khaki head that fades quickly leaving no lace. Black color, no highlights ton of yeast left in bottle. Light carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is baked molasses and bourbon. Bottled 2/29/12, expensive at $9.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA

Photo of Immortale25
4.45/5  rDev +7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Due South Brewing co. snifter. Bottled on 20 JUL 2010.

A- Pours a completely opaque black color with no head, just some bubbles on the edge of the glass and just a spec of surface foam. No lacing.

S- Sweet bourbon-laced caramel notes and rich dark chocolate.

T- The flavor comes on with nice notes of dark chocolate, raisin and more caramel. The finish is lovely as the chocolate lingers along with the sweetness and the hint of booze to create a sort of molasses ending.

M- The lack of carbonation is not extremely detrimental to the beer but I could use just a tad bit more. Full body and an oily, viscous feel.

O- I feel like this bottle peaked a year ago but it's still damn good.

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Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 542 ratings.