Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Ratings: 554
Reviews: 199
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 10.58%
Wants: 45
Gots: 146 | FT: 7
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009

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Photo of AMiz602
4.88/5  rDev +17.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

De Molen perfection. This beer is absolutely not for the faint of heart, nor is it a beer to be drunk in any fast fashion. Sit back, relax, and let this puppy warm up.

First, it is as black as any beer can get. The head is a creamy, thick, coffee colored mass of foam that has a very strong coffee, chocolate, cherry smell that throws you for a loop. You can smell the alcohol.

Next, it is almost a syrup, and tastes like a black beer. It has extremely strong chocolate-coffee tastes that match its smell. As it warms up it this taste really mellows out, and becomes a clovey, cardamomy ?, beer that tastes like dessert. It is extremely smooth, and, if drank at the right bar, can really get the "gezellig" on.

This is by and large the best by De Molen, and is a beer that is a great way to end the night on. It has such a full body and taste that it is an experience in and of itself.

Photo of AmericanGothic
4.85/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured from an 11.2 ounce bottle into a Sam Adams pint. Brewed March 2011, bottled April, bottle number 304.

A: Pours an opaque, dark brown color with two fingers of tan head. Good lace and outstanding retention-- head lasts the entire glass.

S: Rich milk chocolate and some well-integrated floral notes. Really good.

T: A floral malt flavor up front yields gently to sweet molasses before ending with a gently smokey bitterness. There is also some coffee and chocolate in here. Full-flavored and refined. Some vinous overtones gradually emerge, and also the alcohol shows a bit, but not a problem. Towards the end some mint joins in for a great, bitter mint chocolate flavor. Very complex.

M: Full bodied with lush creaminess and viscosity, almost obscene it is so good.

O: Wow, fantastic stuff. Label says it can age for 25 years, little chance of it lasting that long in my cellar. Pricey and worth it, try it if you can.

Photo of rvdoorn
4.82/5  rDev +15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Bottle from the cracked kettle in Amsterdam, brewed and bottled January 2009 by the small Dutch brewery de Molen in Bodegraven. First time I have this beer myself, heard a lot of great stories about it.... Can't wait to try!

Poured into a Westvleteren glass. Pours a very deep, beautiful black color, with a very light head, that disappears almost immediately.

Scent is fantastic, very complex smell of roasted malts, chocolate, fruits, honey, caramel, coffee, some hops and a bit of alcohol.

The taste...,WOW, also here chocolate, roasted malts, raisins, caramel and coffee taste. The finish is slightly hoppy. The bitterness of this beer is well balanced with it's fruitiness, and the beer is very drinkable even though the alcohol percentage is high.

The mouthfeel is a bit strange, only because of the very low carbonation, comparable to some 10 year old vintage beers, but as mentioned by another reviewer, the beer is so great that this is only a minor issue. The beer feels light and smooth in the mouth.

Overall, a fantastic and well balanced beer, simply the best Dutch beer I had until now. Better than Westvleteren 12....??? difficult, I think I just prefer WV12 because it ages very very well!! I'm definitely going to put some Hel en Verdoemenis away in the cellar.

Photo of cosmicevan
4.77/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

thanks to injuredreserve for sending this one my way.
bottle 512
brewed 4/30/2010
bottled 6/18/2010

a - popped the top and filled my ccb snifter. poured a watery black with a reasonable white head that was gone quick leaving a thin slick on the surface.

s - deep roasted chocolate malts. really nice. some coffee notes. big and bold. vanilla glaze.

t - lots of big chocolate and roasted malts. coffee slaps back. some alc, but great roasted chocolate. one of the better RIS i've had in a long time.

m - first thing i noticed when it hit my lips was the silkiness. this is a big bold and full beer, but silky soft and smooth. bready and cooling.

o - overall, world class. one of the best RIS i've ever had. there is just so much goodness in this beer.

Photo of rye726
4.77/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Thanks to Nick at LiquorMax for getting this stuff in.

Botte #19

Great stout, right up with the greats. Thick viscous liquid pours a dark murky brown with a silky espresso head that settles to a thin lace.

Fantastic nose of rich bready malts, chocolate, coffee, molasses, dark ripe pitted fruits and dank sticky hops.

Taste reaches equal complexities with superb balance. Fudge brownies, figs, raisins, nutty malts, roasted malts, anise and bitter hops.

Thick body has delicate carbontion and is only enhanced by adding the yeast.

Delicious stuff. Top knotch.

Photo of BierJager89
4.77/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

A: Pours a dark chocolate color with a mocha head.

S: Dark chocolate and roasty coffee in the nose.

T: Coffee, chocolate and roasted malt, but it's a paragon of the imperial stout style, in my opinion.

M: Full bodied for sure, more so than Rasputin/Disputin/Cease and desist. Probably at least smoothish, but I don't remember the carbonation, I just remember that I loved this beer.

O: I don't think I can speak more highly of anything I would call a paragon. Anything more is ineffable. I'd love to try the barrel aged versions, especially Wild Turkey. A Four Roses or Elijah Craig version would be the best beer ever.

Photo of Johnnywood
4.75/5  rDev +14.2%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.75

dutch product, yess we can , lovely thick dark stout

Photo of WantonFaun
4.71/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.75

This is a criminally underrated imperial stout. For me, it ranks with the likes of BCBS in intensity, but offers a dry, bitter dark chocolate profile paired with dark fruit compared to BCBS's graham/chocolate/marshmallow s'more blast. Drank alongside BCBS for comparison, and my buddy preferred this!

Photo of GDBEERMAN
4.7/5  rDev +13%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap at the Firkin in Libertyville, IL: from notes.
A: The rich tan head sits for a good amount of time before retreating on a solid black body. The server even mention that she had never seen a more bold, black body on a beer. None the less, pitch black, with a slight reddish transparency around the rim while drinking and looking through the light. The lacing is left is huge quantities that you cannot even see into the glass after.
S: Notes of espresso, while chocolate makes it presence on the aromas finish. A solid and constant aroma of liquorish.
T/M: Very sweet on the front with a huge malt bill, the rolling mouthfeel brings a layering of flavors, Starting with bitter chocolate and then moves to a candy liquorice, a smoked malt profile on the body. Turning to the lingering finish, the dominance of alcohol. The full bodied brew holds a nice and chewy mouthfeel that is very filling.
D: This is one of those brew where your damned if you do and damned if you don't. And if your damned if you don't then pity you, because this brew is one of those must try for the experience. Nothing that can be sessioned by any means, but the flavors are out of this world when combined with the body of this brew,

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.69/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Properly cellared 2 year old bottle. Pours dark brown with ruddy tones, appearing black in the glass. Thin fine light tan head dissipated quickly to a ring around the glass. Intense aroma of roasted malt, mild dark fruit and lots of chocolate. Flavor follows, rich dark roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, lighter coffee and dark fruit notes, incredibly well integrated. The body is thick and creamy. An all round well made treat for the senses. One of the best RIS I've had and hands down the best two year old aged bottle of any stout I've experienced. I'm not getting any oxidation notes from this. This is not distributed in my state and I wish I had bought more of these for the cellar. I see that the other very high scoring review was from the same vintage as this one and also tasted after 2 years, so I'd advise aging this one for a few years for a treat. Exceptional.

Photo of Crosling
4.68/5  rDev +12.5%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3 | overall: 5

Pros: Such a unique and big flavor. Incredibly malty, rich, delicious. Finish is 20+ seconds, dark chocolate, espresso, peanut butter, fudge, dark fruit, resin hop. Terrific flavor.

Cons: The low carbonation level does hurt many factors of the beer, but it is such an exquisitely brewed offering, it's only a minor issue.

An amazing beer. A great beer for the cellar.

Photo of drpimento
4.67/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Fabulous. Extreme beer. I think meant to be almost still, which it is. No head, only a few bubbles. Color is an opaque brown tinged black. Aroma us ultra rich and chocolate malt roast coffee. Flavor is like aroma just a hint of bitterness at the end. Body is excellent despite being almost flat. All my friends sitting here trying it say "Goddamn good beer!" Only hints of alcohol in the end which is lengthy. Absolutely fabulous. Label says ageable up to 25 year. Wonder what an older version tastes like.

Photo of DmanGTR
4.64/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Had this several times during our tastings.

Very dark brown, nearly black. Off white head when it's carbonated, otherwise it leaves a faint trace of bubbles. Lots going on here. Huge notes of coffee grinds, dark chocolate, burnt toast, leather, earth, cremini mushrooms, figs, and prunes. Layers and layers repeat themselves as you smell and sip. Medium bodied, alcohol barely noticeable. I highly recommend this great example of a RIS.

Photo of StaveHooks
4.64/5  rDev +11.5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.75

A - pours completely opaque with a thick 1/2 inch khaki head on top.

S - decadent roasted coffee, intense dark chocolate, minerals, sweet cream, full on roasted malts. Coffee coated raisins.

T - follows the nose to a tee. Charred coffee, tons of dark chocolate, sweet cream, chocolate malts and coffee dominate with some lightly scorched caramel underneath. Finishes dry with strong coffee, chocolate, and hints of sweet charred caramel.

M - creamy lush body with a good amount of lively carbonation.

This is a coffee and chocolate explosion in your mouth. I've had this bottle for 4 months do it's not super fresh but it taste like its straight from the tit. This is one of the best coffee RIS's I've had the pleasure of tasting. This is a must have.

Photo of PapaEugene
4.63/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Got this botlle form rvdoorn as a special delivery. He found it at Berts Bierhuis in Utrecht.

A: Poured it into my Urthel glass and it looked viscous. A deep dark brown color near to black. Didn't observe any head at all.

S: First things that comes to mind is liquorice. After that coffee, cacao and roasted malts, some faint fruit smell.

T: Coffee, cacao, liquorice, sweet dried fruits, hints of apple/pear. Malts and a slight alcohol taste. A ligth bitter, spicy aftertaste.

M: CREAMY!!!! PLeasant, but there's no carbonation at all. The spicy aftertaste is masking this problem a little bit.

D: What a great Dutch beer this is. Too bad that there's no carbonation, that would have made it even greater for me. Buy again, again and again....

Photo of jsh420
4.62/5  rDev +11.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

pours dark dark brown - looks black 1+ finger tan head that had decent retention and left lacing all over the glass

smells of dark roast - some smoke - licorice - chocolate

taste is out of this world - just like the nose i get all the notes very roasty malt chocolate coffee licorice but add in some fruity hop flavors maybe its the dark fruity malt mixed with all the other flavors but whatever it is - its amazing

mouthfeel - medium body - low carbonation feels slick

overall - a tad on the expensive side but one of the best nom barrel aged RIS i have had in a while - glad i picked up 2

Photo of essie
4.6/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Poured into a Westmalle chalice. Nice black body with a light tan head that dissipated quickly.

Smells of dark chocolate, espresso, malt, and very small hints of hops.

Taste is similar to the smell, but more complex with a slight fruity booziness and a little more hoppiness at the finish. Very complex and elegant, it reminds me of good quality dark chocolate; roasted bitterness balanced by a light fruitiness.

The mouthfeel is excellent. Whereas most imperial stouts seem to be thick and heavy, this has more of a medium mouthfeel and low carbonation, making it a little more light and smooth which allows me to better appreciate the balance of flavors.

For a big imperial stout (my bottle says 11.9% instead of 10.2%), this is remarkably drinkable. I still wouldn't have more than a glass or so at any given time, even if I could afford it, but the alcohol really isn't too noticeable.

Overall, this was a very nice imperial stout, and I think I'm going to have to pick up another bottle or two to set aside for a special occasion.

Photo of DaveHS
4.59/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Deep brown, almost black, with an inch of dense mocha head. Leaves an intricate web of lacing.

S-Beautiful aromas of black forest cake, maraschino cherries, coffee beans and bitter chocolate.

T/M-Intense chocolate flavors complemented by dry bitterness. Thick and lush, with mouth filling prickly carbonation. The boozy, warming finish is marked by a note of burnt coffee.

O-Really excellent. Love this.

Photo of flannelman808
4.59/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

batch 2053, april 2011

A: mars black with tan head, large pancake batter bubbles, and decent retention.

S: Smells kind of like xhocolate covered gummy bears... tart cherry. awesome. coco creeps up as we warm up.

T: wow the nose mimic's the palate. This stuff is pretty fantastic. ever so slightly tart and bitter cherry wrapped in a chocolate coated tobacco leaf (thin leaf).

M: awesomely astringent.

O: this is a really great beer, I'm impressed. I can't wait to see how she ages. bottle claims 25 years, and Im inclined to see what happens.

Photo of ngeunit1
4.58/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A - Dark black-brown with a finger of frothy chocolate colored head. Fades fairly slowly.

S - Roasted chocolate and caramel malts, roasted coffee, black licorice, molasses, some light dark fruits and vanilla, and a hint of booze.

T - Roasted chocolate and caramel malts, dark cocoa, roasted coffee, black licorice, molasses, some raisin and other dark fruits, bit of hops, hint of lactose, and a bit of booze.

M - Full bodied with moderate carbonation. Smooth and creamy with a sweet, roasted, and warming finish.

D - Fantastic RIS. Just about perfect balance and mouthfeel.

Photo of StayWounded
4.57/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was an impulse buy at a local Beer and Wine store. We drank this out of a tulip chilled to recommended temperature. Our Russian Imperial experience is somewhat limited (only having had a few a piece, though I drink Old Rasputin fairly regularly).

a- We liked the darkness and the healthy coffee colored head, pour a little over a finger thick, and dissipated fairly quickly.

s: We loved the smell. It smelled similar to other Russian imperials (dark notes: coffee, dark chocolate, a little nutty), with a bright smell which we assume comes from the Czech hops. Very aromatic.

t: Tastes as a Russian imperial should, with discord through the hop choices. Definitely interesting. Not super traditional but it has it's own charm. Lacks the post drink heat typically associated with this style.

m: We agreed that it was smooth and a bit thick (befitting the style), but had bright almost "tingle" sensation towards the middle. Again, lack of heat the style is typically assosiated with.

Overall: Fantastic beer. Would get again. Very impressed.

Photo of mwilbur
4.56/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into snifter. Bottle stamped 23 JAN. 2014.
A: Pours a smooth, deep cola brown with just a thin skim of dark tan head that quickly dissipates.
S: Dry leather, wood, caramel malt, brown sugar, and a hint of tobacco. Tending toward dark and sweet notes.
T: Caramel malt (distinct English brown malt) and smooth cream up front. In the mid-palate, this takes a distinct turn toward harsher and darker notes...burnt wood, supple and old leather, a fresh alcohol bite, dark and bitter chocolate, and a hint of dark tobacco cigar. With warming, spicy pepper (almost cayenne-like), toffee, and licorice notes emerge. Very good to start and becomes near perfect with warming.
M: Wow...a definite highlight of the beer. Starts surprisingly light (medium body) given the ABV. Also begins smooth, sweet, and creamy. Then turns toward bitter with an alcohol burn (still retains the sweetness...now heavier and darker though). Tremendous lingering finish...bittersweet and slightly astringent. Sweetly sticky feel.
D: The further I got into this beer, the more I liked it. Deceivingly complex. Very interesting as far as the style goes...not your typical RIS (most are harsh and dark straight through; this one starts lighter, smoother, and highlights the English brown malt...before turning toward more traditional RIS notes). Glad I got to try it...seek it out! The bottle says it can be enjoyed within 25 years; I got a couple more to see...

Photo of dirtylou
4.55/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, scooped at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam

brewed 2/18/10, bottled 4/8/10, bottle #771/960

consumed in prague hotel room

appearance: standard de molen label with loads of information and a red-waxed top, served in hotel water glass, rich dark mahogany body, creamy chocolate cap with perfect retention

smell: rich dark chocolate, loads of hops present...really nice

taste: sinfully good - waves of dark chocolate, a touch of mint, aggressively hopped - glad i got to this one in a relatively fresh state. rich roasted malts, nice bitter finish - a world class stout indeed

mouthfeel: creamy, but a little heavy of the foamy feeling

drinkability: good

Photo of grub
4.53/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

sampled on tap at hopcat as part of the 3rd annual extreme beer fest, jan 22/2011.

pours stark and opaque black with a very dense cap of light brown head. the head drops fairly fast wtih a sheet of lace.

aroma is great. super rich dark chocolate. bit of milk chocolate. espresso. dark fruit - date, raisin, fig. toasted whole wheat bread. biscuit. bit of cracker. light alcohol. earthy and woody. tons of depth.

taste is great. comes over you in waves. starst with big herbal/minty character, then goes caramel and toffee, then rich dark and bittersweet chocolate and espresso. dark toasted multi-grain bread and biscuit. bit of dark fruit. just over medium bitterness level, but mostly chocolatey. lightly warming alcohol. woody and earthy. more licorice and fruit comes through as it warms.

mouthfeel is great. nice big body. very fine carbonation, just under medium level.

drinkability is great. great balance. great depth and complexity. this is one tasty stout. definitely not an american stout, and even a bit of a slant compared to your typical RIS, but damn fine regardless.

Photo of KevyKev
4.53/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

We have the good fortune to live close enough to the brewery that we occasionally stop in to stock up on beer and as an added benefit have some of Pepe's excellent cooking.

Brewed on August 27, 2008 and bottled on September 26, 2008. Bottle 141.

Poured into a Molen snifter which they use for their porters and stouts, Hell & Damnation poured with a huge head that continued to mushroom over the glass as it sat. The head is dark and rich with bubbles of various size -- beautiful! It quickly dissipates leaving a thin and uneven layer on the top of the beer leaving a bit of lacing on the side of the glass (very different experience from Paco -- due to his traveling across the Atlantic? In the end, not all that different as our dissipated very quickly). The beer itself is a beautiful dark rich brown, bordering on black with a hint of red.

The scent is a complex combination of what you expect to smell in an imperial stout (malt, burnt sugar or molasses) along with the smell of hops that tells you this will not be that simple. The smell of alcohol is not as strong as you would expect from the 10.2% ABV.

Expectations are high regarding taste as Molen is renowned for their imperial stouts and porters -- and this does not disappoint! Heavily roasted malts, chocolate and molasses all very well balanced against the relatively (for a RIS) strong taste of hops. It finishes with burnt sugar, and hops! Truly wonderful!

This beer fills your mouth. The carbonation is low but far from flat. Here in the Netherlands on a cold and rainy Friday night...I could drink this all night long...the combination of big stout and hops is very compelling...the problem is they didn't brew enough to make the drinkability question relevant -- there was only 282 bottles in this batch and we need to lay down the remainder of our stash as it will only grow better with age.

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Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
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