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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & VerdoemenisHel & Verdoemenis

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

450 Ratings
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Ratings: 450
Reviews: 186
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 41
Gots: 120 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

smithj4, May 04, 2014
Photo of billab914
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a tasting glass. It poured pitch black in color with a modest but bubbly tan head to it. A little lacing clinging to the sides of the glass.

The aroma shows a lot of dark chocolate to it right off the bat. It comes off a lot like a dark chocolate brownie with a little nuttiness to it as well. I get some bitter, roasty, coffee flavors but it's an afterthought compared to the dark chocolate brownie flavor. Very appealing aroma overall.

The taste shows more of the chocolate to it up front with some roasty, coffee flavors coming out in the finish. Again, I get a little nuttiness in it as well. Like the aroma, the dark chocolate is what really shines in it for me.

The mouthfeel is heavy with lower carbonation. Overall I thought it was an excellent beer. I loved the thick, heavy mouthfeel mixed with the dark chocolaty, brownie like flavor. Excellent beer overall.

billab914, Aug 04, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

valianes, Aug 19, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

ADTaber, May 14, 2013
Photo of MDDMD
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

A-dark brown black color with a decent tan head and good lacing

S-dark malt, coffee, chocolate, wood, light caramel

T-chocolate, dark roasted malt, coffee, caramel, little dark fruit, hint of licorice, slight char

F-medium body with moderate carbonation, smooth and creamy

O-a very nice well-balanced stout, enjoyable sipping

MDDMD, Aug 28, 2014
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

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Photo of jrenihan
4.23/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled on 10/11/2011

Beer is black with a small tan head. Great lacing and fairly good retention.

Lots of dark fruit in the nose- much moreso than expected. Prune and black cherry. Roasted malt. Cocoa. Surprisingly sweet smell.

Lots of roasted malt in the flavour, with anise and some bittering hops. Dark chocolate. A bit of coffee. Some cherry, prune and general dark fruit flavours. Finishes fairly bitter. Very good.

Full bodied, moderately carbonated. A bit sticky- a heavy beer.

Overall, a very good RIS. Big flavoured and heavy.

jrenihan, Oct 27, 2012
Photo of rapidsequence
4.23/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle from Wim. Bottled Dec 6, 2009.

Appearance: Pours completely black with no highlights, but you can see through it a bit when you drink it. Medium brown head with aonly a couple minutes of retention. Minimal lacing.

Smell: Roasted coffee and dark chocolate. Some sweet, fruity notes too. Not over-roasted like some RISs. Not boozy.

Taste: Again, coffee and bittersweet chocolate with some dark fruit. There's some roasty and alcohol bitterness that balances the sweetness from the big finishing gravity. It has a very nice flavor.

Mouthfeel: Smooth and sticky, but really not as big and creamy as I'd expect. Good though.

Overall: A very nice, drinkable RIS with very little detectable alcohol for such a big beer. Very glad I got to try this.

rapidsequence, Jul 12, 2012
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4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle opened by nickd717. I'm uncertain of the batch.

Opaque dark chocolate brown appearance, very little carbonation and no head, only a slim collar of foam.

Very chocolate-forward aroma with fruity undertones, almost vinous. It smells rich but balanced, reminding me of aged port.

Rich and fruity to the palate, chocolate fudge and dark fruit flavors are prominent along with traces of red grapes, dates and molasses. Full-bodied with low, almost absent carbonation, which wasn't detrimental to my enjoyment of the beer. It finishes bittersweet and chocolatey while hinting at smoke and charcoal. Delicious, though I don't know if I'd want more than a small serving.

largadeer, Aug 12, 2010
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4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a re-review. My first review was back in '09 and I scored it a 3.23. Carbonation was also an issue back then. However, De Molen has been much more consistent lately and the newer batches of H&V have not only been carbonated properly, but they've all seemed to be much more flavorful. Anways, time to give it another go.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled 21 June 2011
Drunk beside a Rasputin

APPERANCE: A dark brown and slightly transparent pour yields a one finger, thicker looking, fluffy, light brown head with great retention. Opaque black body with higher levels of carbonation evident. Head slowly fades to a good foamy wisp cap and clings to the sides of the glass. A splotchy wisp remains and leaves some good lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Bolder nose of roasted and smoky malts, dark chocolate, coffee beans, cocoa powder and some black licorice. Bold and interesting, and much more stout-like than Rasputin.

TASTE: Bolder flavors of roasted and smoky malts and a good dose of dark chocolate, cocoa, espresso coffee and charred malts at the swallow. Lots of bitterness as well. Bold and relentless aftertaste of roasted and burnt malts, bitter coffee and bitter, dark chocolate. Bold flavors and very roasted and chocolate forward. This is more my kind of thing.

PALATE: Medium-full body and medium carbonation. Creamy on the palate, enough weight as well, goes down smooth and finishes slightly mouth-coating. A touch of heat lingers, but well measured.

OVERALL: Now this is more like it. The newer batches have been much improved compared to the older ones, and this imperial stout is way, way more my thing than Rasputin. Big nose and flavor profile, with all the stout characteristics I love, and a good look and feel to top it off. Definitely glad they use this one for their barrel aging projects, as it’s got the big, roasted and chocolate flavors to hold up. Definitely the clear winner over Rasputin. Top notch stuff. Recommended.

Jeffo, Jan 17, 2012
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4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

February 2012 bottling reviewed August 2013. Poured into a Lost Abbey Teku. The beer pours out black with no light escaping. Viscosity looks about average for the style. It sports about a finger of rocky tan head that quickly dies down to a chunky lacing. The nose is really nice. Lots of roasted notes, char, coffee, and baker's chocolate balanced by an underlying vanilla-like sweetness.

Full body and lots of roasty bitter flavor. Big notes of espresso and char up front and a fairly prominent hop profile that meets the bitterness like some kind of perfect storm. There are some rummy dark fruit flavors on the back of the palate. The finish leaves lots of roasty bitterness lingering behind.

Yet another terrific RIS, though a bit pricey on this side of the pond. There isn't much sweetness to be found in this one and the bitterness is bruising, even for this style. I imagine it is intended to cellar well. I have two more bottles from this batch that I will allow to sit for a while longer. This one definitely has some aging potential and could be unbelievable with some more time on it.

deadonhisfeet, Aug 25, 2013
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4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Growler. Snifter glass. Enjoyed on feb´13. Deep amber color. Beige foamy crown shows fairly good retention. Amazing aroma profile: roasted malts & burnt caramel, hints of licorice, anise & fennel, subtle coffee & ripe figs, as well as floral notes. Fresh warming alcohol & sweet sensation at first sip followed by dry & clean bitterness. Full body. Soft carbonation. Oily texture. Long bitter/sweet finish & brandy hues on the aftertaste. Mighty & delightful!!

GONZALOYANNA, Mar 04, 2013
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4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 171

Holy crap! This is an insane beer! Opening the bottle, the foam began to rise from the neck. A quick pour into the chalice brings a billowing brown head that quickly topples the glass. Trying to inhale the foam, I get choked up because of the power of the beer.

The beer is as black as possible with no penetrating light. The loosely knit bubbles of the head retain well, lace well, and leaves legs on the sides of the glass. An ideal look for a stout.

After the beer settles a bit, it gives up huge aromas of espresso, bitter cocoa, grassy hops, charred woods, light platics, and rich roasted malts. Low on esters or any other complexities, this beer is intimidating to the nose.

Severe flavors of all-things-burnt: cocoa beans, coffee grounds, charred timbers, and a light ashy flavor dominates the glass. Hops try to combat the malts and cannot stand up to the maltiness; but they do give a much needed repreive from all the roasted character. Burnt currants, figs, nuts, dates, and berries are light but rise as the beer warms.

Aggressive and at times, harsh in the texture. Fusal alcohols give a cough-syrup mouthfeel that will undoubtedly take time to mellow out. A wood-like tanning astringency also hinders the mouthfeel a bit. Large, rounded, and thick, this beer is kind of a bully. (1.035 FG?, 1.115 OG? Are you kidding me?) Big time hop bitterness further emphasize the dry and astringent finish. (99.9 EBU? Seriously?)

The batch that I have is a year old. The bottle suggests that this beer can age for 25 years. I believe it will take nearly all that to properly round out.

Thanks jlindros!

BEERchitect, Jan 11, 2010
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4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

I had this on tap at O'reilly's served in a snifter.

The color is deep earthy brown like a mocha or redeye with tiny beads that dissipate quickly. The nose is full of strong cocoa scents like belgian chocolate with moderate sweet odor that is still somewhat bitter with mild roasted smell but very fudgy overall. The feel is of a strong stout with moderately heavy body and a little warmth with spicy tinges and moderately high sweetness with a subtle bitter edge as it finishes with moderate carbonation which suits the style.

The flavor is roasty and heavy on chocolate which I like, the mildly roasted malt with slight caramel has a nice synergy with the gentle spiciness and mild hop flavors. There is a mild char tinge which adds to the complexity, not quite smoky more like the burnt edges on the brownie that came in contact with the pan. The alcohol is mild in the taste with slight woody aspsect in the dry finish. Overall I found this to be a pretty high quality stout, a pretty quaffable for a beer this big. I enjoy the gentle yeast influence with plenty of malt to recommend this for those who like Russian imperial stouts

Slatetank, Nov 12, 2011
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4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from the bottle into my Orval glass.
This bottle was brewed August 2008, bottle number 56 of 282.

Thos beer is a huge gusher. The cork almost jumps off and oozes head. As your pour you get at least four fingers of super fluffy medium tan head. The retention and lacing are excellent.

The aroma is strong and supremely unique. It is very sweet giving off a unique flavor of sweet chocolate milk of ice cream. Its really awesome and I keep coming back for more. You also get a whiff of toffee and cocoa.

The taste is pretty malty as well. You get lots of cocoa, a little of the sweet milk left over, with a bitter chocolate finish. A lot is going on here. Its nice but a little something is missing that I can't put my finger on.

The feel is really nice. Tons of carbonation on the tongue and a slight warm bitter finish.

Drinkability is decent.

Overall, I really liked this. It was super unique for a RIS, something I would recommend.

jrallen34, Mar 30, 2010
Photo of Daniellobo
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Quite a remarkable take on an imperial stout. Deceptively, and deliciously drinkable for such a sturdy brew underneath the easy feel.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped, and waxed bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1115, F.G. 1031, EBC Colour 308.9, Hop bill, EBUs 99,9. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 25 yrs...). Shows brewing and bottling date (18 Nov 2009, 19 Jan 2010), and that this is bottle 407 out of a 744 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (10.2%) Served in a snifter.

A - Deep black pour with a 1/2" short lived head, fair surface memory and minimal lacing.

S - Roasted nose, touches of chocolate, minimal coffee, lightly woody with a touch of licorice.

T - Rich and long roasted range. touches of chocolate, faint coffee again, hint of a fruity sense lingering in the back, dried prunes... Tiny touch of licorice.

M - Medium/full body, almost a tad watery in the beginning but runs very smooth and is picked up by a small but nicely balanced carbonation in the finish. The sense in the palate is tremendous. It is doing something strangely very well, the way it flows is making all the difference for me and gives it an very pleasing sense. Very unusual...

D - Nice sipper, flowing very nicely.

Notes: Such a diverging range of opinions for this brew. It feels as if we were all trying different stuff. Well, I guess it will only be sorted out by trying to drink it again and compare notes. Thank you Toño for the great treat.

Daniellobo, Oct 12, 2010
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4.18/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured on tap into a sampler flight at Pizza Paradiso Dupont.

Dark walnut brown appearance but there's some really nice red hue to this particularly noticeable when finishing. Perfect espresso looking head, with a coffee creamy tan top that's always present while drinking. Really does look like an espresso presented in this taster.

Bouquet just rips. Thick roast coffee flavors and dark roasty malts and lots of sweet smelling cream. Vanilla tones nearly peek out a bit, with a mix of dominant coffee that match wonderfully. Fantastic smelling brew.

Palate delivers but with a little less fanfare than appearance and aroma. Classic coffee angles, and a slick dark bitter chocolate in the mid palate. Lots of hop bitterness on the finish as well complimenting but sort of indistinguishable to pick out. Light bodied in feel but not watery but some thin carbonation distracts a bit from the palate.

Overall though a very worth Russian Imperial stout.

smakawhat, Jul 27, 2013
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4.18/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

So, I have had two versions of this beer: One served in a 0.75l bottle and one in a 0.33l bottle. The first one was utterly fantastic: licorice, moderate carbonation, smooth bitterness and balanced aromas. The 0.33l was very harsh and I suspect it has to do with the maturation. The first would be a suberb score, but I suspect the other will come along with a couple of years in the cellar.

ErlendA, Sep 16, 2011
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
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