Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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92
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495 Ratings
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Ratings: 495
Reviews: 192
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 10.84%
Wants: 43
Gots: 135 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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1/5  rDev -75.9%

Photo of jsanford
2.25/5  rDev -45.8%

Photo of champ103
2.35/5  rDev -43.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This is an 08 bottle.

A: Pours nearly pitch black color. A large, rocky tan head forms with good retention. Rings of sticky lace is left behind.
S: Prune juice, dark fruits, light roast, powdered sugar and chocolate.
T: Really sweet and boozy. To much residual sweetness for me. Acrid, bitter coffee and roast. Big on the prune juice. Dark fruits, more like fruit puree. Lots of bitter coffee lingers on forever. Not enjoying this.
M/D: A full body and moderate carbonation. Though really sticky and syrupy. Like an adhesive to the tongue. Way to sweet and to much hot alcohol for me to enjoy this.

Better than Bommen & Granten. Though that is not saying much. Again, this is just to big, boozy, and sweet for me to want to come back for more.

Photo of t0rin0
2.75/5  rDev -33.7%

Photo of jneiswender
2.98/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured out of a 12oz bottle into a nonic glass. Served cool and allowed to sit some.

Pours dark mahogany and a dark tan head. Very chunky. Alot of yeast in this bottle.

Smell initially very boozy and medicinal. After some warming up the chocolate comes up. Some herbal notes.

Tastes herbal, sage like and boozy. A bit rough. Low carbonation and slick mouthfeel.

Not a bad beer but there are some world class beers in this category. A bit rough around the edges but again not a bad beer by itself.

Photo of Brez07
2.98/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2

Reviewing from notes. Had this on tap at Novare a couple of months ago. 16oz pour into my chalice

A: Very dark pour. Leaves an extremely thin layer of head. As I drink, sporadic lacing is left behind

S: Big nose, but pretty limited in components. Basically, smells like raisinets soaked in booze

T: The description at the bar stated "monstrously rich and dark" - I couldn't agree more. This one is scorching hot. Roasted malt and chocolate barely cut through the heat. Seems like there is raisin lingering in the finish

M: Full bodied. Appropriately carbonated for the style. Roasty finish with an alcohol kick

D: Man, this is boozy. I sipped this for a while. In it's current state, I don't think I'd drink again. However, I've seen this in stores so might grab a bottle to stash for a few years

Photo of jpajpajeff
3/5  rDev -27.7%

Photo of VierBier
3/5  rDev -27.7%

Photo of Pumilio
3/5  rDev -27.7%

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3/5  rDev -27.7%

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3/5  rDev -27.7%

Photo of domtronzero
3.03/5  rDev -27%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

A - Very dark brown, nearly opaque. Huge, billowing, long lasting, big bubbled, tannish head. Little lacing. Apparently too much carbonation.

S - Dark roasted malts, dark fruits and a huge solventy booze aroma. Hot and burning.

F/M - Dark fruity esters, big dark roasted malts, some chocolate and a little coffee. Resinous and earthy hops with a moderately firm bitterness, accentuated by dark malts. Solventy hot booze throughout. Medium full bodied with excessive carbonation. Lingering boozey fruit flavor.

D - Hot, solventy, and harsh, this is exactly what I expected after tasting Black Damnation (a blend of Black Albert and H&V). To quote my wife, "It just attacked my mouth."

Photo of helios7
3.04/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3

Thin and sharp-tasting. Characteristic bourbon-aged ale taste, but with a harsh, inescapable astringency. Perhaps a bad bottle?

Photo of Wasatch
3.05/5  rDev -26.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

12oz. Bottle
Red Wax
Brewed: 30 Apr 10
Bottled: 18 Jun 10
Bottle 468 of 2040

Poured into a chalice a black color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy tan head, which leaves a nice medium thick/creamy oil slick in the middle of the glass. The nose is malty, with some hop notes, lots of licorice, chocolate. The taste is malty, too much licorice notes, kinda medicinal, chocolate, with some hop notes. Full-Medium body. Drinkable, I was expecting a much better tasting brew instead of what was in this bottle. Maybe a few years on it would help out.

Photo of MiataMike
3.08/5  rDev -25.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

A: Jet black, like motor oil. Very thin head.

S: Roasted malts, cherries, sugar, coffee, chocolate

T: Sour, more cherries initially. Sour stale coffee on the finish, which is drying. Alcohol becomes more prominent as you drink it.

M: Thick, oily, slightly cloying mouthfeel

O: Drinkability isn’t terribly high, which is to be expected, I think. It’s $9 a bottle, which is ridiculously expensive, and I probably wouldn’t buy it again. It’s one of those beers you buy just to say you tried them.

Photo of DIM
3.15/5  rDev -24.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3.5

a: This was a very dark brown color and it was served to me with a couple of big bubbles for a head.

s: I found a weird kind of smokey molasses with hints of charred licorice, toffee, and coffee.

t: This was an odd stout and I'm not sure I liked it. It was possibly a bit oxidized. I found it strangely earthy and smokey overall with flavors of toffee, molasses, and dark chocolate. The alcohol was fairly moderate but noticeable.

m: This might have been the bottom of the keg, it was pretty flat and a bit oxidized.

o: This was interesting enough, but I can't say I necessarily liked it.

Photo of crusian
3.23/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

bottle thanks to greggerino...

bottle number 833 from March 20th 2009 bottling.

pain in the ass to open due to the red wax on it. I have a 2008 in the cellar and it is not waxed at all. pulled the cork out, and no pop... uh oh. no carbonation.

pours a thick viscous black... again, no carbonation.
nose is weak chocolate, figs, and roasted barley.

taste is not impressive. I was hoping for a HUGE RIS, and I was severely disappointed... it is thick , nice mouthfeel points for that, minus for no carbonation... chocolate on the palate, roasty, blah blah blah... basically if you like non-carbonated stouts, get it... if not, dont. The 10% is covered well, but seems like this was a screw-up to be honest. this would be really good if it was carbonated. reminds me of the Sam Adams triple boch when I had it a looong time ago.

Photo of LilBeerDoctor
3.23/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Bottle. Pours black with absolutely no carbonation. Aroma of burnt toast, bitter burnt chocolate. Flavor is also incredibly burnt with some chocolate and roasted malt notes. Some alcohol presence. The flatness of the beer was off-putting too. I don't know if this beer was "off" or not, but I did not enjoy it. There were some good moments in tasting this beer, but overall the odd (ie burnt) moments overruled.
6/3/7/3/14 (3.3/5)

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3.25/5  rDev -21.7%

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3.25/5  rDev -21.7%

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3.25/5  rDev -21.7%

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3.25/5  rDev -21.7%

Photo of craytonic
3.25/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Still pour, no carbonation, head or lacing. Jet black, very syrupy apperance.

Smell: Espresso, dark chocolate, dark malts.

Taste: Roasted coffee grounds, rich lightly roasted malts, some faint smoke. A bit too much alcohol

Mouthfeel: Completely still, a bit like molasses. Very thick, it needs at least some carbonation.

Drinkability: if it had some bubbles to it, it would be much better. Probably would benefit from some age as well.

Photo of monitorpop
3.28/5  rDev -21%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A: Black with a big foamy milk chocolate head

S: Rich chocolate, coffee, earth.

T: Dark chocolate, deep roasted coffee, wet earth and must with a bit of burnt bitterness that lingers in the finish.

M: Smooth, creamy but a bit thin, low carbonation

O: I'm a bit disappointed in this one, the musty burnt flavors take away from it. Not worth the high price for me.

Photo of woosterbill
3.3/5  rDev -20.5%
look: 1.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

12oz bottle, #661 of a batch brewed in '09 and bottled in '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Big thanks to Dan for sharing this one.

A: After the wax is cut away the cap pops with the absolute loudest sound I've ever heard come from a non-corked beer's opening, and a slow upwelling of foam begins to overflow into a hastily-provided glass. Once actual beer starts coming out, it's visibly chunky with particulates; every pour from first to last comes complete with a host of solid matter. My particular pour has a dark-brown body playing host to a galaxy of black particulates, topped by a soapy head that quickly recedes to a spotty ring. Foul.

S: Huge, crazy mix of smoke and raw chocolate. Some hops and caramel as well. Intense, and hugely enjoyable. The chocolate alone is just stunning.

T: Spicy, strong, smoky and chocolatey. Less great than the nose, but still enjoyable in small sips.

M: The chunks carry over here, and just highlight the boozy sharpness of the flavor with a bit of gritty three-dimensionality. Laughably bad.

O: The bottle says this one can sit for 25 years, and I think at least a handful would be necessary just to get all the crap to come out of suspension. The aromas and flavors are big and enjoyable, but this is a seriously flawed beer right now. I can certainly see its potential, though, and can't wait to try the Misto version that's on-deck.

Cheers!

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Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 495 ratings.