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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

462 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 462
Reviews: 187
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 10.84%
Wants: 42
Gots: 124 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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Photo of aasher
3.35/5  rDev -19.3%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is an 11oz bottle. It pours a nice medium bodied chocolate brown in color with only a very slight lacing. The aromas are odd. You get a lot of powdery chocolate malt with a strange funk to it. The more I think about it, the more I detect gym socks. That's a no no. Oddly enough it's not as off putting as it sounds or as it could be. Theflavors consist ofa ton of chocolate malt, roasted malt, light coffee, chocolate bar sweetness, and slight alcohol. It's solid and the favors work well together. It drinks really light in body, kind of thin and watery. It's definitely the lightest imperial stout I've had yet. It needs to be more viscous. This definitely hurts the appeal of this beer. I don't see how it could be aged for 25 years being as thin as it is. Overall this is an odd beer. The nose is questionable, the favors are solid, but the body isn't up to par for the style.

aasher, Jan 11, 2012
Photo of kojevergas
3.38/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

De Molen bottled 05 November, 2010. Bottle served into Norrebro Bryghus stemware glass in me friend's gaff in Copenhagen, Denmark. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a half finger head of white colour with nice cream lacing and thickness. Retention is laughably bad. De Molen seems to have a sort of anti-carbonation philosophy on brewing. Colour is a solid brown-black. Nontransparent. Appealing. I do wish the head was better.

Sm: Heavy chocolate, toffee, caramel, and cream. Me broken nose can't distinguish much else; all apologies, lads.

T: The caramel and chocolate hit you smack in the jaw, right from the open on. No cream in the open, but certainly some buried undertones in the body. Not as nutty as expected, but the notes are present. The toffee is a bit corrupted by the chocolate. The chocolate overstays its welcome, continuing strongly through the finish; it'd be better if it faded on the finish to encourage the next sip. No alcohol or yeast comes through. It's complex but structurally brief; there's little time to enjoy all of the flavours fully. It's built well, but the balance is a bit troublesome on account of the dominant chocolate.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Far too thick, however. It's obscenely thick and filling - as thick as you can go without getting syrupy methinks. It's unwarranted, and doesn't complement the flavours of the body. What happened to subtlety?

Dr: I prefer the other versions of this beer that are aged, but this one is worth trying. It's more a sipper, and it's thickness distracts from the character of the taste. It's hard to drink; I wouldn't want more than one. I doubt I'll have it again.

kojevergas, Jul 31, 2011
Photo of CanuckRover
3.43/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Pours pitch black. Huge brown head. Web like lacings all the way to the finish.

I get mostly dark chocolate and alcohol on the nose.

Wowza. Big hit of alcohol right up front. Followed by dry dark chocolate and some well roasted coffee beans. Boozy throughout, like a triple Irish coffee. Finished with a bit of alcohol soaked fruit. Can't analyze for too long or it burns your tongue off.

Mouthfeel and strength aren't working well for me, quite harsh.

Bottled a few months ago, definitely needs a few years on it. Might turn out pretty tasty.

CanuckRover, Oct 31, 2010
Photo of scottfrie
3.43/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

Young 375ml bottle (bottled 4/11/11) poured into Portsmouth snifter.

A: Pours black with a few soapy bubbles for a head. Not much in the way of lace as well. I guess I should be glad I didn’t get a gusher bottle like some of the other reviewers, but some kind of head would have been nice.
S: Crazy strong notes of roasted malt, toasted dark grains, deep dark chocolate and volatile alcohol. I get a hint of vanilla and burnt wood as well.
T: Flavors from the nose are present and they definitely lean towards char, peat, burnt wood, earth, and tobacco. I get sweeter notes of caramel and vanilla in the finish, and the aftertaste is lightly bitter with rich dark chocolate, but this is one roasted and toasted beer.
M: Very low carbonation that makes the mouthfeel very slick and watery. The body is thankfully fairly thick, but really this feels like drinking heavy water.
O: Obviously I didn’t get a bottle with any bubbles so the mouthfeel definitely suffered. The flavors were also fairly complex but had a char/roasted/earth theme. Overall a pretty solid imperial stout; perhaps some age would make it better.

scottfrie, Jan 10, 2012
Photo of davey101
3.45/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 2/29/2012, 330 ml bottle into an oversize wine glass.

A - Pitch black body. A large three finger mocha head formed initially. Settles down to a thin cap with edging. Excellent lacing and retention with small and tight bubbled, leaves behind an alcoholic film.

S - Nice blend of roast and sweetness. Some milk chocolate, vanilla, liquorice and coffee. Has an odd almost savory burnt plastic like finish though.

T - Much better than the aroma. Roasty malts, bitter espresso beans, and milk chocolate. Subtle dark fruits and liquorice on the finish which give it that unique RIS taste. Some warming alcohol on the end. Mouth feel is between thin and medium with low carbonation. Despite the thinness it comes off sort of sticky and syrupy.

O - A nice RIS. Didn't blow me away but its very simple and well put together. I don't really see the point in aging this one though, its drinking pretty great fresh.

davey101, Jul 19, 2012
Photo of DCgolfpro
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

DCgolfpro, Jul 08, 2014
Photo of Thurgoft
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

Thurgoft, Nov 19, 2013
Photo of NittanyBeerFan
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at TJs during the Super Bowl. Not sure the year of this, but it was pretty green, so I am going to guess it's 2011.

When the beer gets to me, it is topped by only a thin layer of espresso cream head. The body is thick and viscous, and while it doesn't leave any lace, it does leave a swath of oily residue on the glass after a swirl. Some legs, but nothing too spectacular.

The aroma and flavor both fall a little bit flat for me. My initial impressions are of dark fruits and a good amount of alcohol warmth throughout. There is some dark roast coffee/espresso as well that tastes a little bit smokey. Unfortunately, there isn't much to balance out the almost acrid smoke.

The body of this beer is probably the best part of it. Thick and oily, the low carbonation provides a perfect foil for the thick syrupy texture. Overall, there are some places to improve, and I think that age will provide most of the opportunities that Hel & Verdoemenis needs to mature, mellow and blend nicely.

NittanyBeerFan, Feb 06, 2012
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

ygtbsm94, Dec 30, 2011
Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Tasted at the Rare Beer Tasting at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The pours a blackish brown color with virtually no head retention or lacing. The beer was not entirely still; I just think it had seen some serious barrel aging. The nose is intense, but I can't say the aroma pleased me very much. Licorise predominated, along with an underlying woodiness, black tar and coffee. A little bit of licorise is something I tend to like in my impy stouts, but this is just over the top. Flavors replicate the nose pretty closely, except there is considerable sweetness to it. The sweetness helps to counter the licorise somewhat, but I still find it nearly overwhelming. The beer has a fairly smooth mouthfeel, but the licorise, sweetness and high alcohol make drinking this beer an absolute chore.

This beer reminds me very much of the Mikkeller Black, which is not a good thing at all. So clearly this beer is just not my cup of tea. Oh well.

John_M, Oct 20, 2009
Photo of kaelingirl
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

kaelingirl, Sep 22, 2012
Photo of brez8791
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

brez8791, Dec 22, 2011
Photo of Bluecane
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

Bluecane, Apr 21, 2013
Photo of ArsMoriendiOU818
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

ArsMoriendiOU818, Jul 06, 2014
Photo of kegger22
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown with red under tones. No head at all, I was actually able to count the bubbles, there were 18 on them. A boozy, coffee aroma. Taste was not the expected coffee and chocolate, what I got was vanilla and alcohol; and sickly sweet. Hell and Damnation did not improve as it warmed either. Feel was fairly thick but zero carbonation (and carbo might have helped). Drinkability was average, only if you have a sweet tooth. Overall, I am extremely disappointed. For a highly rated (and reading the reviews it seems like 3 or 4 different beers are being rated), and high priced beer, this is over sweet, under flavored and carbonated, and in general, an inadequate beer.

kegger22, Aug 20, 2009
Photo of BeerWorld
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

BeerWorld, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of Nutwood
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

Nutwood, Jan 17, 2013
Photo of Axnjxn
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

Axnjxn, Oct 01, 2014
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

westcoastbeerlvr, Mar 29, 2012
Photo of NuclearRich
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

NuclearRich, May 21, 2014
Photo of Huhzubendah
3.53/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark brown, very little head and no lacing.

S: Subtle roasted malts, alcohol.

T: The first thing I noticed about this beer is that it is in many ways out of character for a RIS. While it is decent beer, it is not nearly as rich and flavorful as I was hoping.

M: Ok feel, low carbonation. Warming alcohol finish.

D: Eh...I've had much better, though this is an interesting beer. It has its own thing happening. Worth a try.

Huhzubendah, May 09, 2010
Photo of amphion1065
3.53/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle from 2011, served in a tulip at Lord Hobo. Reviewed from notes.

It pours like a spirit, or maybe iced coffee. The body is black, pure and impenetrable. Not even a wisp of a head on this one. Some legs down the side of my glass, but this isn't really a looker.

The aroma is huge. Prunes and other dark fruits some through in abundance. Lots of molasses, with a rich sugary sweetness. There's a sweet toffee aroma that really reminds me of an English barleywine. Plenty of alcohol phenols with a nostril hair-burning heat detracts from the overall package.

The taste is similarly barleywine-esque, but far less brash than the aroma. Prunes, plums and other dark fruits come through, but chocolate is the predominant source of sweetness. It's quite smoky and roasted, and there's a prevalent bitterness throughout. This is far less sweet than most American Russian Imperial Stouts.

I didn't expect much carbonation after watching this beer pour out of the bottle, and I certainly wasn't disappointed. This is basically dead, flat and borderline lifeless. It's very thick and full, lush and chewy, but just a little bit of carbonation would really help.

A more drinkable mouthfeel would elevate this beer significantly in my view. The taste and aroma are very good and this is drinking well, even though it's rather young. With just a little bit of added carbonation, this balanced stout would be a real winner for me.

amphion1065, Oct 24, 2011
Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -13.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

Shoutout to my boy VDubb86 for allowing me to share in his order this e'en. It pours a bleak onyx topped by a finger of dark-ish khaki foam. The nose comprises chocolate (both dark and cocoa), darkly-roasted malts, light booze, light molasses, light coffee, and a slight bit of char. Things are a bit astringent to my 'strils. The taste follows pretty closely, with the chocolate and roast really pounding the 'buds. Unfortunately, so too does the booze, along with his friend leathery char. Things just seem overdone here in a number of ways, but surprisingly not enough to make it completely off-putting. It's kinda like drinking a tough scotch: it's a good kind o' pain. The body is fairly hefty, with a light moderate carbonation and a thickly syrupy, chewy feel. Overall, this stout is a bit much, a bit too stout-y (man, I can't believe those words just came out of my mouth...) for its own good. It's not really bad, just nothing I would ever really go after again. (I hope my inner conflict has been made clear here...)

TMoney2591, Nov 03, 2011
Photo of MattSweatshirt
3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 10/11/2011

Light brown head, amber around the bottom of the pint glass. Head settled quickly.

Pretty much roasted malt and chocolate on the nose and palette. Straightforward. Slightly bitter but sweetness is pretty prominent.

Smooth medium-full bodied beer with a nice level of carbonation that makes it easy to drink.

The bottle seemed a little weird. The beer was way up in the neck of the bottle and the carbonation died quickly.

MattSweatshirt, Dec 20, 2012
Photo of GregSVT
3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a wine glass

A: Pours very dark brown with a huge brown head that fades to a layering and leaves a ton of lacing on the glass. Besides the over carbed head this looks beautiful.

S: The nose reveals great notes of cocoa, vanilla, earthy hops, and bakers chocolate.

T: The taste has a ton of chocolate, hops, vanilla, and a slightly fruity wine flavor like dark grapes on the finish. It may be the alcohol that makes it taste a bit like wine.

M: The feel is thinner than a normal RIS and is definitely overcarbed with the alcohol very apparent on the finish.

O: Nice aromas and flavors but the alcohol burn and over carbonation make this tough to appreciate.

GregSVT, Feb 19, 2012
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 462 ratings.