Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Reviews: 197
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rAvg: 4.1
pDev: 10.24%
Wants: 45
Gots: 147 | FT: 7
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

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Photo of TMoney2591
3.58/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Served in a snifter at The Firkin.

Shoutout to my boy VDubb86 for allowing me to share in his order this e'en. It pours a bleak onyx topped by a finger of dark-ish khaki foam. The nose comprises chocolate (both dark and cocoa), darkly-roasted malts, light booze, light molasses, light coffee, and a slight bit of char. Things are a bit astringent to my 'strils. The taste follows pretty closely, with the chocolate and roast really pounding the 'buds. Unfortunately, so too does the booze, along with his friend leathery char. Things just seem overdone here in a number of ways, but surprisingly not enough to make it completely off-putting. It's kinda like drinking a tough scotch: it's a good kind o' pain. The body is fairly hefty, with a light moderate carbonation and a thickly syrupy, chewy feel. Overall, this stout is a bit much, a bit too stout-y (man, I can't believe those words just came out of my mouth...) for its own good. It's not really bad, just nothing I would ever really go after again. (I hope my inner conflict has been made clear here...) (1,063 characters)

Photo of MattSweatshirt
3.6/5  rDev -12.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 10/11/2011

Light brown head, amber around the bottom of the pint glass. Head settled quickly.

Pretty much roasted malt and chocolate on the nose and palette. Straightforward. Slightly bitter but sweetness is pretty prominent.

Smooth medium-full bodied beer with a nice level of carbonation that makes it easy to drink.

The bottle seemed a little weird. The beer was way up in the neck of the bottle and the carbonation died quickly. (445 characters)

Photo of trappistlover
3.62/5  rDev -11.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

(12oz bottle with red wax). Bottle 497/2040. Bottled June 2010. Pours dark brown with loads of yeast and tan head. Aroma has lots of chocolate that I can smell it from a distance. Also getting some anise, leather and wet dog. Taste is roasty bitter with a sweet malt backbone. The alcohol is very noticeable at first sip. Full bodied and slick texture. Finish is dry and roasty. Fairly hoppy. A nice impy and one I'd probably prefer with some age on it. (453 characters)

Photo of Chico1985
3.63/5  rDev -11.5%

330ml bottle dated 6-4-13 poured into a snifter.

Black pour is pretty much still. A very small brown ring forms. Glass-staining. Oh De Molen.

Smells of dusty chocolate, cigar box, roast, dark fruit, molasses. Decent depth with a nice aged feel to it, but kinda muted.

Taste leans more towards the sweet side with flavors of chocolate liqueur, molasses and dark fruits. Kind of a burnt tobacco and coffee grounds thing going on. Definitely getting the brown malts as well, along with some light hop bitterness.

Mouthfeel is more or less not carbonated, which honestly isn't a huge deterrent for this beer, but it does take away from full enjoyment. Other than that, good medium heftiness, impressively hidden alcohol.

I've had a few bottles of this and I gotta say it really is a mixed bag. This one that I happened to review unfortunately was pretty 'meh' compared to others I've had. De Molen's big beers seem to either be a real treat or a missed opportunity, I wish they were more consistent. I will update scores/add notes with further experiences with this one. (1,073 characters)

Photo of GregSVT
3.63/5  rDev -11.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a wine glass

A: Pours very dark brown with a huge brown head that fades to a layering and leaves a ton of lacing on the glass. Besides the over carbed head this looks beautiful.

S: The nose reveals great notes of cocoa, vanilla, earthy hops, and bakers chocolate.

T: The taste has a ton of chocolate, hops, vanilla, and a slightly fruity wine flavor like dark grapes on the finish. It may be the alcohol that makes it taste a bit like wine.

M: The feel is thinner than a normal RIS and is definitely overcarbed with the alcohol very apparent on the finish.

O: Nice aromas and flavors but the alcohol burn and over carbonation make this tough to appreciate. (678 characters)

Photo of vandemonian
3.7/5  rDev -9.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

De molen Hel & Verdoemenis is an Ok RIS. Find something better if you can.

A: Black without much head. 3.5

S: Noticable alcohol with some smokey wood. 3.5

T: Has a woody malt flavour and a smokey aftertaste. Lacks the rich maltiness that I was craving. 4

M: Watery. 3.5

O: Meh. 3.5 (286 characters)

Photo of drabmuh
3.72/5  rDev -9.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Thorpe recently served side by side by side with Misto B.A. and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do.

Beer is black with a big tan head (might be a tiny bit over carbonated here). Head sticks around too long too, it becomes a barrier to the beer. Some lacing left behind, heavily carbonated.

The aroma is roasty with a mild sweetness to it. The roast wins out over the sweetness though.

Out of the three this was the least interesting but it still had some nice flavors. The body was thinned otu by the carbonation artificially but there was a lot of roast at the back, a mild sweetness up front and the finish wasn't bittered with hops but with a kind of chocolate / coffee bitterness. Finish is dry. Overall it is fine. (751 characters)

Photo of Thorpe429
3.73/5  rDev -9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle picked up at Capone's a few weeks back and served side-by-side with the Misto and Wild Turkey versions. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours near black with a really big and creamy tan head. Great retention and quite a few rings of lacing on the way down. THe nose brings a large amount of roast. Really, really roasty. Some dark chocolate in the background as well. The flavor is mostly roast with just a touch of chocolate and espresso behind. Really highly carbonated with a modest boozy presence. Finish is a bit dry and over-roasted. (555 characters)

Photo of brystmar
3.73/5  rDev -9%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Red waxed bottle #1442/2080 shared by Denise. Bottled on 4/11/2011.

Dark brown pour; thin and watery-looking body. Zero head. Swirling the glass leaves chunky sediment on the sides of my glass, but no real lace. Strong aroma of deeply roasted coffee hits my nose from afar. Traces of fruit esters and alcohol lie in the background.

Espresso dominates the flavor profile. Very roasty. Not as much malt as I'd like, and really not balanced enough for me. Minimal alcoholic warmth as it descends, which is certainly impressive for an imperial stout. Would love to try this again in a few years to see how it develops.

Body is unacceptably weak and watery for the style. Low carbonation is perfect, though. Can tell this blend of flavors was well-crafted, but for now it needs work. (781 characters)

Photo of farrago
3.73/5  rDev -9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

Meager dusting of tan brown foam across the surface, barely stretches across and gone quickly after the pour, barely any lacing. The liquid passes dark brown into black, slight tint of yellow at rims and glass bottom, some particulate visible floating about, any bubbles are highly random. Strong roast to the nose, coffee and dark chocolate interlaced with licorice, caramel and milk notes, displays a noticeable herbaceous character, a touch stiff and unyielding, you get more by way of dried meat than any sweeter fruit accents. In the mouth it’s medium-bodied and heavier on the bottom, pushes down into the tongue. Too dry to really develop a creamy feel and that roast inclines it more towards bitter than sweet. Coffee, grilled nuts, chocolate, licorice and some granola, oatmeal. Here there might be plum, date or raisin flavorings. The herbal side is less overt, yet there is a burnt ashen thing going down. Due to the lack of sweetness it lacks length at the finish and develops a thinner weight. So, in the end, it’s kinda more flash than substance even if by no stretch a bad beer. (1,097 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
3.74/5  rDev -8.8%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

It's the attack of the numbers! 99 EBU, 1031 FG, 308.9 EBC Colour, 468 bottles in 33 cl bottle. Enough of the numbers, on to the beer:

Ink black in color, topped off by a good, slight tanned head with decent retention. There's some unwanted sediment which gives the overall appearance a little eyesore, even as a few ounces were left in the bottle. The aromas are pleasant, though mild. There's a chocolate coffee combination with a touch of cherry. Also a little bit of alcohol.

I can't make much of a complaint about the taste. Big and bittersweet. It grabs your tongue with a whipping of chocolate sauce and coffee combination. As the sweetness hits its peak, a modest kick of solvent alcohol and a thrashing bitterness (with some piney notes) give the coffee character more of a bitter coffee flavor. If the booze were hidden better, this would be very close to Darkness. It's full bodied and leaves a satisfying stick around the lips.

If De Molen were looking to make a good American-style imperial stout, mission accomplished. Price aside, fans of the style should give it a try. (1,088 characters)

Photo of SawDog505
3.76/5  rDev -8.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Poured into a 16 oz snifter. Pours a slick black, with a half inch khaki head, nice lacing. Smell is oak, bourbon, vanilla, dark fruit, and coffee. Taste is what the nose would have you expect, really very balanced, with oak, Bourbon, and vanilla leading the way. Body is maybe medium, less life than I would like, dry as expected, and goes down easy enough. This is solid, but will never spend nearly $15 again on this. Needs more carbonation, would love to have two KBSs for less than one of these. (500 characters)

Photo of ehammond1
3.79/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

On Tap

Churchill's Pub & Grille
San Marcos, CA

Black as night with no head. This has very little visible carbonation activity and leaves nearly no lace down the glass.

Incredibly aromatic beer with lots of roast, coffee beans, rich dark chocolate, and a strong ash/burnt/smoke component as well.

The roast and chocolate are dominant in the flavor along with a mild coffee component. The ash character isn't a distraction though there is a strong, boozy element as well. Tasty and complex--changes as it warms.

Medium to full mouthfeel, a bit oily, and very little carbonation.

An incredibly aromatic and flavorful beer, but I wish it had some more bubbles. (662 characters)

Photo of DaveBar
3.84/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

My 500th review! Saved this one for a while now, a special occasion.

Purchased at the LCBO as a sell off for $3.50 for a 330ml bottle. Served at 5deg C in a tulip

A- Opens well and pours nearly no head that stays a film for 2mins or so. Very dark almost black color

S- Chocolate, fig, gooseberry,

T- Touch sour. Might be infected. I can see over that and find plum, cherry and fig.

M- Not thick or rich. Touch bitter at the end

O- Think the bottle was infected. Have one more for later so lets see!

Food Pairing

This nice brew went well with.... Lasagna!

Enjoy (571 characters)

Photo of Rutager
3.84/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.75

33cl red waxed bottle, bottled Sept 16, 2010, #715

Appearance. Pours a dark brown, close to black with a thin light-tan head.

Smell. Sweet chocolate liquer, creamy coffee and a bit of dark malts. Quite sweet and boozy.

Taste. Big coffee and dark malts, semi-sweet dark chocolate, rum and some bitter grassy hops, especially in the finish. Maybe a little wood too.

Mouthfeel. Medium body and a little thin for what's going on, low carbonation.

Overall. A good tasting, big stout that just didn't have the feel to back it up. Enjoyed it and felt like this beer is almost something great, but missed the mark. (611 characters)

Photo of GreesyFizeek
3.86/5  rDev -5.9%
look: 4.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.75

12 oz bottle purchased from Nathaniel Square Corner Store in Rochester, NY.

Pours a super dark, abyss-like black. No light penetration. 2 inch head forms, decent lacing.

Smells roasty, little bit of alcohol, some chocolate for sure. Not the strongest aroma, but still good nonetheless.

Tastes include chocolate, charred woodiness, creamy vanilla, campfire smoke, and slight leafy hoppiness.

The body is a bit of disappointment. I found it really thin for a RIS- such strong flavors in such a light, weak body. The carbonation was pretty low, as to be expected.

A little expensive ($10 for a 12 oz bottle) for how thin the beer is. Still tastes very good, and would be a good buy if you could find it cheaper than I did. (724 characters)

Photo of nhindian
3.87/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle poured into a Mikkeller wine glass.

Batch 152

A - I barely crack the cap before I'm greeted with a very loud POP. I barely have time to react before I have thick, black foam coating my glass, hand, counter, and whatever is between me and the sink. Yep, it's a gusher. I clean up, pour it SLOWLY down the side of the glass and have about an inch of liquid when the rest is full of mocha-colored head. I turn to grab my camera, and by the time I turn around it is foaming over again. I now hate this beer. When it finally settles, it does look nice, with a pitch black body and great lacing. It sticks to the glass, my hand, paper towels, dishes...

S - The nose on this is almost entirely all roasted malts and give off a fresh-brewed coffee aroma and a bitter chocolate. There is a touch of char as well, but overall it's pretty straightforward, if not intimidating.

T - Given the explosion upon opening, I was expecting this to be infected, but I don't really get any tartness that would indicate a flaw. There is perhaps a trace of dark fruit in the back-end, but that's not uncommon for the style. Otherwise this is roasted bitterness through and through. It's a bit smokey and the char gives it an extra grit as well. Somewhat hoppy as well which is a surprise, but the hops are more earthy and spicy, fitting in with the robust theme of the beer. A good deal of alcohol astringency in the finish is noticeable.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately heavy-bodied with high carbonation. A tad on the syrupy side with a long, bitter aftertaste.

D/O - Drinkability is moderate. This is a big beer and one sip can leave you with a mouth full of flavor. This makes the languishing task of drinking slow both for enjoyment and the fact that the flavors don't exactly lend themselves to being quaffed. (1,808 characters)

Photo of cavedave
3.87/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Thick, black, almost still with just a thin ring, and bit of bubbly film atop to even hint at carbonation.

Dark caramel, molasses, rooty herbal backing, burnt sugar, coffee, and some light roast in the medium strength aroma. Nice.

Good gawd what a blast of deep, dark flavor. It overwhelms the palate in a thick wave of burnt caramel, blackest molasses, bitter chocolate, and almost acrid bitter roast malts. In a good way. It oozes into the mouth, and stays on palate long after swallow. Alcohol is a major player, spicy, hot, vaporous, and intense. In a good way. As it warms dark fruits start to appear, and hoppy bitter accompanies the roast. Crazy and delicious.

Almost no carb., viscous beyond belief, finish that is very lasting roasty bitter and heat.

Looking for a stout that will curl your mustache and melt your nosehairs? This is it. Not for the faint of heart, this would probably kill a Bud Light drinker. (934 characters)

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.87/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A-Pours black! Good start. The body barfs up a spongy, brown head that slowly deflates. Leaves random, thick lacing.

S-It's hard to describe how the aroma is unique but it is. It's super roasty with chocolate, but aren't all the good Stouts like that? There is something about this one that smells unique. Maybe a sip will enhance my ability to describe...

T-It really reminds me of chocolate covered hazelnuts. Well, maybe not just hazelnuts but a medley of nuts. Also it reminds me of nut flavored coffee. There is also a cool cola aspect to the flavor as well.

M-It's nearly flat...I remember reading on the label that you could age this for 25 years. Well I guess they're going for that flatness because there is no way it'll be more carbonated when I'm 50. It's got a big body with booze that isn't shy.

O-Pretty tasty. Carves it's own niche in a style that I find hard to find flavor intricacies. (906 characters)

Photo of SanFranJake
3.88/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Found at some random-ass place in Rome by the Pantheon called Baguetteria del Fico.
Wife wanted the De Molen Tasputin but they were out and the recommended this and must say, was a very good recommendation.
Poured from a bottle into a pilsner glass. Not ideal but still better than from the bottle. Poured a deep brown/black, not the least bit translucent and no head to speak of.
Tons of chocolate!! Flavor and nose. Very tasty!
Got better and better as it warmed and was sad that it ended.
Not sure ill ever see this in the states but if I do, imma grab a few. (563 characters)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.88/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 mL bottle poured into a Firestone snifter. Bottle #1058, 4/8/2011.

Appearance - Black body with a nice khaki head. Nice thick collar. Swirls nicely with a thick layer of bubbles on the side of the glass.

Smell - Roasty. Bitter chocolate and strong coffee. Molasses comes through, too. A little boozy.

Taste - Even roastier than the aroma hints. Lots of bitter chocolate and coffee. It's the most dominant flavor. The finish gives just a hit of molasses and toffee. A lingering sweetness balances a strong bitter aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Just a little bit too sweet in the finish. It balances the roast well, but it lingers a long time. Well carbonated. Maybe too much.

Overall - Nice. Lacking in some complexity, but a nice experiment in intense roasted malt flavors. (775 characters)

Photo of ThreeWiseMen
3.88/5  rDev -5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled on September 26, 2008. Poured into a Cigar City snifter.

Appearance: So, a brief aside: I uncaged the bottle and then set it sit for a minute or so while I answered a text. During that time, the cork burst out (hit the ceiling even) and the beer began overflowing uncontrollably onto our dining room table. Don't worry, all was fine afterward. Moving on: poured out black and opaque, producing a massive stack of dark brown, fluffy, foam. When held to light, the beer shines reddish orange around the edges; it's opaque elsewhere. No lacing. Head retains as a loose, fluffy, crown. Looks like a delicious Belgian Dark Ale.

Smell: Rich chocolate, molasses, and loads of sugar. Once it's warmed to room temperature, I get a hint of sweet, flowery, somewhat citric hops; but the overall aroma profile is pretty one-dimensional. Still nice.

Taste: Chocolate syrup, molasses, dark fruits, and char. Lots of residual sweetness, and a surprisingly large amount of bitterness (for a beer that's 2+ years old). As with the smell, however, this one isn't too complex. Still very good.

Mouthfeel: Carbonation was really high to begin with, but at this point (30 minutes in) it's juuuhhst right! Very thick and sweet, and creamy thanks to the carbonation (would probably be syrupy otherwise). Viscous, large... I dig it.

Drinkability: Very smooth and enjoyable, but underwhelming. Maybe I set my hopes to high here - hard to say. I was really hoping for more complexity out of this one. (1,487 characters)

Photo of crnipeter
3.89/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

Initial pour seems somewhat undercarbonated, yet very dark reddish brown body gives rise to a finger of tan head.

Roasted malt features pronounced chocolate and subdued coffee aroma while malt exhibits bready character and unrefined sugar sweetness. Dark fruit esters are noticeable whilst alcohol -although clearly present - remains unobtrusive.

Flavor mostly follows the aroma: cocoa,chocolate and coffee-like qualities of roasted malt blend with sweet malt and dark fruits (rum-raisins and cherries) while warming alcohol provides some balance to the maltage. Aftertaste exhibits mild roastiness and pleasant alcohol warmth.

Thick, chewy body with low carbonation is sufficiently attenuated to avoid being syrupy.

In short, a massive, sweet chocolaty Imperial Stout with warming alcohol (330 ml, bottled 02-29-2012,into tulip). (837 characters)

Photo of BARFLYB
3.89/5  rDev -5.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On Tap at TJ'S Everyday in a goblet glass. $4-Happy Hour.

Hel & Verdoemenis is a big black son of a bitch. The liquid is jet black, night sky with some dark brown coca cola bubbles on top that are not well formed. Dwindles to nothing, no stick.

Smell on this one is pretty dirty. Dirty as in a lot going on. Very old world smelling with roasty malt, smoke, some cocco, chocolate and some rotten vanilla. Char and a whiff of alcohol. Pretty bold, but not exquisite, but different.

Taste is going in a bunch of directions. Right off the bat I take this as a real big Baltic Porter with a old world twist. English ingredients, tastes of melted chocolate, some cocco, roasted malt out the ying yang, vanilla, smoke and something else.

Feel is pretty large. The body is big yet the carb is really tame, this could use some more bubbles and life as it's on the flat side, yet it works for the whole old world beer style I think they are shooting for here.

This is great beer, not something i would go for again, hell it took me an hour to take this 12oz's down. It's big and full of taste. I doubt it would last for 25 years in even the best cellar though. (1,155 characters)

Photo of StonedTrippin
3.91/5  rDev -4.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

2011 red wax edition. i wanted to like this one more than i did. it pours a dark woody brown color, apparently thin, with a quarter inch of tan bubbles. the smell is quite smokey for a russian imperial, a little sweet, very earthy and booze heavy. my girlfirend said it tastes like aftertaste. not totally sure what she meant by that, but i somehow agree with her. the beer is very subtle for being so big, and i guess does kind of taste like its already been swallowed as soon as its sipped. some tobacco notes mixed in with the smoke. this is very alcoholic, especially as it warms up. the mouthfeel is relaxed on the carbonation and fuller bodied but still somehow on the thin side, like watery. i actually like the way it felt, less filling and overbearing than some other examples of the style, but to me this beer tasted like an old closet. the bottle says it could be good for 25 years, who knows, maybe it should go in an old closet for awhile to develop...

edit: more than two years later this drinks like a dream, wow has aged helped this! bumping up a few scores to reflect flavor integration and complexity increases. stunning with some time on it. (1,161 characters)

Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
91 out of 100 based on 197 ratings.