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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

453 Ratings
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Ratings: 453
Reviews: 186
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 41
Gots: 121 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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3/5  rDev -27.7%

EB1, Sep 28, 2013
Photo of davey101
3.45/5  rDev -16.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottled 2/29/2012, 330 ml bottle into an oversize wine glass.

A - Pitch black body. A large three finger mocha head formed initially. Settles down to a thin cap with edging. Excellent lacing and retention with small and tight bubbled, leaves behind an alcoholic film.

S - Nice blend of roast and sweetness. Some milk chocolate, vanilla, liquorice and coffee. Has an odd almost savory burnt plastic like finish though.

T - Much better than the aroma. Roasty malts, bitter espresso beans, and milk chocolate. Subtle dark fruits and liquorice on the finish which give it that unique RIS taste. Some warming alcohol on the end. Mouth feel is between thin and medium with low carbonation. Despite the thinness it comes off sort of sticky and syrupy.

O - A nice RIS. Didn't blow me away but its very simple and well put together. I don't really see the point in aging this one though, its drinking pretty great fresh.

davey101, Jul 19, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -15.7%

ArsMoriendiOU818, Jul 06, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

HopsHopenstein, Jul 18, 2012
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5/5  rDev +20.5%

rekel, Jul 16, 2012
Photo of jneiswender
2.98/5  rDev -28.2%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Poured out of a 12oz bottle into a nonic glass. Served cool and allowed to sit some.

Pours dark mahogany and a dark tan head. Very chunky. Alot of yeast in this bottle.

Smell initially very boozy and medicinal. After some warming up the chocolate comes up. Some herbal notes.

Tastes herbal, sage like and boozy. A bit rough. Low carbonation and slick mouthfeel.

Not a bad beer but there are some world class beers in this category. A bit rough around the edges but again not a bad beer by itself.

jneiswender, Mar 10, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

KAP1356, Apr 25, 2012
Photo of rapidsequence
4.23/5  rDev +1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle from Wim. Bottled Dec 6, 2009.

Appearance: Pours completely black with no highlights, but you can see through it a bit when you drink it. Medium brown head with aonly a couple minutes of retention. Minimal lacing.

Smell: Roasted coffee and dark chocolate. Some sweet, fruity notes too. Not over-roasted like some RISs. Not boozy.

Taste: Again, coffee and bittersweet chocolate with some dark fruit. There's some roasty and alcohol bitterness that balances the sweetness from the big finishing gravity. It has a very nice flavor.

Mouthfeel: Smooth and sticky, but really not as big and creamy as I'd expect. Good though.

Overall: A very nice, drinkable RIS with very little detectable alcohol for such a big beer. Very glad I got to try this.

rapidsequence, Jul 12, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

wyatt13, May 22, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

ridgeline23, May 10, 2014
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Boilerfood, Mar 12, 2013
Photo of DaveHS
4.58/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Deep brown, almost black, with an inch of dense mocha head. Leaves an intricate web of lacing.

S-Beautiful aromas of black forest cake, maraschino cherries, coffee beans and bitter chocolate.

T/M-Intense chocolate flavors complemented by dry bitterness. Thick and lush, with mouth filling prickly carbonation. The boozy, warming finish is marked by a note of burnt coffee.

O-Really excellent. Love this.

DaveHS, Aug 06, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

appetiteforparis, Feb 16, 2014
Photo of Piddmeista
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

09 bottle, red wax. pours a pitch black, very thin brown head on the rim that fades quickly; I can see some floaters and bits in it too. Smells like rich coffee and chocolate. Taste matches the smell, with a faint hint of tobacco. Massive viscosity on this one. The best way to describe this beer would be rich coffee mocha. The chocolate aspect of it is more chocolate syrup than bakers or bittersweet. No hops whatsover (I think I read on the label it uses czech hops), just a thick chewy slightly sweet mocha. Thanks Whiskeygirlchef. I'd like to try this one fresh to see how it compares.

Piddmeista, Jul 11, 2013
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4.59/5  rDev +10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from 750 mL bottle into snifter. Bottle stamped 23 JAN. 2014.
A: Pours a smooth, deep cola brown with just a thin skim of dark tan head that quickly dissipates.
S: Dry leather, wood, caramel malt, brown sugar, and a hint of tobacco. Tending toward dark and sweet notes.
T: Caramel malt (distinct English brown malt) and smooth cream up front. In the mid-palate, this takes a distinct turn toward harsher and darker notes...burnt wood, supple and old leather, a fresh alcohol bite, dark and bitter chocolate, and a hint of dark tobacco cigar. With warming, spicy pepper (almost cayenne-like), toffee, and licorice notes emerge. Very good to start and becomes near perfect with warming.
M: Wow...a definite highlight of the beer. Starts surprisingly light (medium body) given the ABV. Also begins smooth, sweet, and creamy. Then turns toward bitter with an alcohol burn (still retains the sweetness...now heavier and darker though). Tremendous lingering finish...bittersweet and slightly astringent. Sweetly sticky feel.
D: The further I got into this beer, the more I liked it. Deceivingly complex. Very interesting as far as the style goes...not your typical RIS (most are harsh and dark straight through; this one starts lighter, smoother, and highlights the English brown malt...before turning toward more traditional RIS notes). Glad I got to try it...seek it out! The bottle says it can be enjoyed within 25 years; I got a couple more to see...

mwilbur, May 08, 2014
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

Kevincredible, Apr 02, 2014
Photo of rvdoorn
4.83/5  rDev +16.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 5

Bottle from the cracked kettle in Amsterdam, brewed and bottled January 2009 by the small Dutch brewery de Molen in Bodegraven. First time I have this beer myself, heard a lot of great stories about it.... Can't wait to try!

Poured into a Westvleteren glass. Pours a very deep, beautiful black color, with a very light head, that disappears almost immediately.

Scent is fantastic, very complex smell of roasted malts, chocolate, fruits, honey, caramel, coffee, some hops and a bit of alcohol.

The taste...,WOW, also here chocolate, roasted malts, raisins, caramel and coffee taste. The finish is slightly hoppy. The bitterness of this beer is well balanced with it's fruitiness, and the beer is very drinkable even though the alcohol percentage is high.

The mouthfeel is a bit strange, only because of the very low carbonation, comparable to some 10 year old vintage beers, but as mentioned by another reviewer, the beer is so great that this is only a minor issue. The beer feels light and smooth in the mouth.

Overall, a fantastic and well balanced beer, simply the best Dutch beer I had until now. Better than Westvleteren 12....??? difficult, I think I just prefer WV12 because it ages very very well!! I'm definitely going to put some Hel en Verdoemenis away in the cellar.

rvdoorn, Jul 17, 2009
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3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a wine glass

A: Pours very dark brown with a huge brown head that fades to a layering and leaves a ton of lacing on the glass. Besides the over carbed head this looks beautiful.

S: The nose reveals great notes of cocoa, vanilla, earthy hops, and bakers chocolate.

T: The taste has a ton of chocolate, hops, vanilla, and a slightly fruity wine flavor like dark grapes on the finish. It may be the alcohol that makes it taste a bit like wine.

M: The feel is thinner than a normal RIS and is definitely overcarbed with the alcohol very apparent on the finish.

O: Nice aromas and flavors but the alcohol burn and over carbonation make this tough to appreciate.

GregSVT, Feb 19, 2012
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4.1/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.75

Bottle # 974 ... Not sure on date. At least a couple years old.

A - Pours dank black, slight brown tint to it. Not much head to speak of. I quit pouring before the yeasties were released.

S - Dark chocolate, rich coffee bean, dark fruits, brown sugar and that ever present roasted malt.

T - A dark chocolate bomb! Roasted malts and a little sweetness to add to the party.

M - Thin mouthfeel, low carbonation and a dry finish.

O - Pretty much highs and lows with this beer. Beef up the laggards and it'd be a winner.

cvm4, Jun 26, 2013
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

leroybrown10, May 26, 2014
Photo of PeprSprYoFace
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter. Pours super over carbed. Head was at least 3 inches. Took a while to dissapated to a one finger. Ok lacing. Super black with tan head.

Aroma is nice. Nice and roasty. Bit of caramel and dark fruits. Kinda yeasty.

Taste is nice. Carbonation bites your tongue but the nice caramel and dark chocolate notes come through after that then bitter roast in the finish. Your left with almost a chocolate covered espresso bean taste in your mouth.

Mouthfeel is super high carb but the bubbles are fine and the taste is smooth.

Overall a very good Russian imperial. Would buy it again but not often because of the $10 per basically a 12oz bottle is a bit much.

PeprSprYoFace, Jun 20, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

Benesi88, Nov 08, 2013
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

unclekeith, Jan 30, 2014
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

meanmutt, Feb 22, 2013
Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle 10,0% Abv.
Served chilled in a tulip wine glass.
Bottled on 22 June 2011

Appearance: Pours pitch black in the glass, but a strong backlight reveals dark red edges (it’s always a disappointment when a RIS is not totally opaque). Massive, slightly creamy mocha coloured head that displays great retention and leaves good lace for the Abv.

Smell: Great RIS nose! The first sniff yields tons of chocolate syrup and coffee; however heavily roasted malt, charred wood and a little ash quickly take over. Vanilla, cocoa, tar, smoke, yeast and a light sweetness are also noted.
There is surprisingly little hop character for such a fresh bottle.

Taste: It has been a while since I had a 'black-flavoured' imperial stout, I have missed these flavours! Roasted malt, charred wood and heavily roasted coffee dominate with ash, smoke, cocoa and burned raisins also present.
There is an odd sugary sweetness just before the bitter, dry finish. Great Abv. cover up, I barely noticed the 10%.

Mouthfeel: Full body, but not as thick as I expected. Slightly oily with light ultra smooth carbonation.

Overall: Great RIS, though a little fuller flavour and thicker body would take it up a notch. I will most certainly have this again! I will be buying a few bottles to see how it holds up over its 25 year life span.

Thehuntmaster, Sep 05, 2011
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 453 ratings.