Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Ratings: 554
Reviews: 199
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 10.58%
Wants: 45
Gots: 147 | FT: 7
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009

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Photo of corby112
4.06/5  rDev -2.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Draft at Capones in Norristown, PA.

Pours pitch black and completely opaque with a two finger, frothy dark mocha head.  Excellet retention only slowly fading into a thick, lasting ring. Large chunks of soapy lacing left behind.  Looks amazing!

Deeply roasted dark malt aroma that doesn't become burnt or acrid. Hints of toast, dark chocolate, roasted coffee bean and oatmeal along with subtle lactic cream and sweeter malt notes.

Medium bodied with a good balance of roasted malt, silky chocolate, sweet booze, lactic cream and subtle hops.  Chewy and roasty that verges on being burnt but never tips over that edge.  Lactic cream and sweeter chocolate notes balance things out.  Bitter earthy hops with a touch of pine compliment the dark chocolate, roasted coffee bean and oatmeal.  Complex, well balanced and easy to drink.  Slight boozy swetness and heat toward the finish but overall the high abv is nicely masked.

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.88/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 mL bottle poured into a Firestone snifter. Bottle #1058, 4/8/2011.

Appearance - Black body with a nice khaki head. Nice thick collar. Swirls nicely with a thick layer of bubbles on the side of the glass.

Smell - Roasty. Bitter chocolate and strong coffee. Molasses comes through, too. A little boozy.

Taste - Even roastier than the aroma hints. Lots of bitter chocolate and coffee. It's the most dominant flavor. The finish gives just a hit of molasses and toffee. A lingering sweetness balances a strong bitter aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Just a little bit too sweet in the finish. It balances the roast well, but it lingers a long time. Well carbonated. Maybe too much.

Overall - Nice. Lacking in some complexity, but a nice experiment in intense roasted malt flavors.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.45/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle purchased from Slowbeer in Melbourne. Classic, dull de Molen black-and-white label. I love how iconic and yet how boring these are.

Pours a deep, fine black, turning to weak coffee coloured at the very edges. Head is solid—surprising, given how little it vzzted on opening—a good, decently thick and fine mocha brown. Some spotty lace. Carbonation is persistent and very fine. Looks very good indeed.

Nose is toasty and dark, with a fiery character to it: not quite smoky, but almost sulphury or like match phosphorous. Certainly a sharp, volatile hint of booze to it, but it's really tied nicely to the darkness and the intensity—one of those beers that really uses the extra alcohol content as leverage for flavour. Lovely. It does a bunch of stuff that is rare or special, even in a big RIS.

Taste matches this: big roasty characters, and lovely boozy notes integrated into the body and structure of the beer. Roast, coffee, charred pork belly, minimal, but sticky sweetness on the back. This beer is based on a dark roast character, and it sticks by it beautifully, embellishing it here and there with beautiful accents that make it complex and interesting.

Feel is smooth but a little thin: certainly good enough, but perhaps not pulling its weight as far as the beer goes on the whole.

Overall though, this is very, very good stuff. Complex and rich, tasty and drinkable, and yet laced with slightly unusual characters which make it stand out on its own—that's enough to push this beer from "good" to "superb".

Photo of wl0307
4.01/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

At 10.0%abv., coming in a slim 330ml brown bottle; bottling date 09/11/2012, served lightly chilled in a straight imperial pint glass. Notes: the beer label specifies the ingredients to include water, pale, brown, chocolate and cara barley malts, premiant, saaz (bittering hop) and yeast.

A: pours a pitch black colour with a thin sheet of dark khaki foam and very light carbonation.
S: upfront comes a very robust and deep smell of burned bones, black beans, and burned Turkish coffee with an acute edge of acidity, savoury and sour at the same time… underneath this bizarre façade of roastiness, the chocolate malts and aromatic resinous hoppiness wake up to the call of a good swirl, along with walnuts, ripe pear-ish esters, black dates, creamy toffee and licorice. All in all, it is as complicated as it is quiet on the nose.
T: the smooth and deeply roasted malty foretaste has plenty of acidic-sweet overripe dark stone fruits, black prune jam, bitter-sweet coffee, and bitter nuts, smoothened by brown- and lighter-coloured malts, somewhat slick on the palate at the same time; turning slightly plummy estery towards the finish, moderately bitter, chewy and roasty-dry as in deep-roast coffee plus hop leaves, but the palate is also balanced by the sweet elements and a very sound acidity all in all.
M&O: smooth and slick on the palate, the carbonation remains pretty low, against a rich and robust body and flavour profile where alc. is generally hidden very well. This beer is actually like a modern take on the Russian Imperial Stout without the pronounced hoppiness. A beer worth slow sipping.

Photo of John_M
3.47/5  rDev -16.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Tasted at the Rare Beer Tasting at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The pours a blackish brown color with virtually no head retention or lacing. The beer was not entirely still; I just think it had seen some serious barrel aging. The nose is intense, but I can't say the aroma pleased me very much. Licorise predominated, along with an underlying woodiness, black tar and coffee. A little bit of licorise is something I tend to like in my impy stouts, but this is just over the top. Flavors replicate the nose pretty closely, except there is considerable sweetness to it. The sweetness helps to counter the licorise somewhat, but I still find it nearly overwhelming. The beer has a fairly smooth mouthfeel, but the licorise, sweetness and high alcohol make drinking this beer an absolute chore.

This beer reminds me very much of the Mikkeller Black, which is not a good thing at all. So clearly this beer is just not my cup of tea. Oh well.

Photo of jdhilt
4.07/5  rDev -2.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a one finger khaki head that fades quickly leaving no lace. Black color, no highlights ton of yeast left in bottle. Light carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is baked molasses and bourbon. Bottled 2/29/12, expensive at $9.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA

Photo of biegaman
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Hel & Verdoemenis ("Hell & Damnation") looks dark and evil enough that Satan himself may have spawned it. It is pitch-black and, unlike so many Russian Imperial Stouts, doesn't even have brown edging along its trim; it's black through and through. No head formed, not even from a hard, entirely upright pour.

The aroma has blocks of bakers chocolate, hints of barbecue stones, blackberry jam, and stale coffee grounds. It amounts to be one tall order even for a RIS. This is the point where anyone who didn't know ahead of time what they were getting themselves into will bail; it's more than a little intimidating if you're not familiar with the style.

A dollop of French vanilla ice cream is added to the beer's dark chocolatey profile. Coffee is more noticeable in the flavour as well, as are dark dried fruits and black licorice which tend to linger all the way through the aftertaste. It ticks off all the flavour boxes on the RIS checklist but isn't exactly flashy; it leaves a thing or two to be desired.

The mouthfeel has hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness and a dryness that is reminiscent of oak, though this original version isn't barrel-aged. My imagination is trying to convince of me of a dash of cinnamon-like spice, but in reality this beer is oily and bitter as black coffee.

Drinking Imperial Stouts is like gazing up at a mountain top: just as you'd look up and wonder "how could anyone climb that high?" you're left contemplating "how can barley and hops end up tasting so rich and decadent?". Here, Brouwerij De Molen has offered up a Kilimanjaro of a beer.

Photo of Wasatch
3.06/5  rDev -26.4%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

12oz. Bottle
Red Wax
Brewed: 30 Apr 10
Bottled: 18 Jun 10
Bottle 468 of 2040

Poured into a chalice a black color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy tan head, which leaves a nice medium thick/creamy oil slick in the middle of the glass. The nose is malty, with some hop notes, lots of licorice, chocolate. The taste is malty, too much licorice notes, kinda medicinal, chocolate, with some hop notes. Full-Medium body. Drinkable, I was expecting a much better tasting brew instead of what was in this bottle. Maybe a few years on it would help out.

Photo of JohnGalt1
4.29/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

inflatablechair brought this to Friday's tasting.. Bottle #17.. Sept. 26th '08. Thanks Sam.

Fucking HUUUGEEE gusher.. Eric was twisting off the cage and had maybe a few turns when the cork hit the ceiling like a cannon round.. He got it to the sink and after a coupla pours... it's still foaming like nothing I've seen before... still foaming after 5-6 pours... we walk away for a while.

Once into the glass... and the expected enormous head dies back, a pretty classy brew comes in... 2" dark tan head.. black brew.

The foam is gone.. and this is a pretty damn nice RIS.. thick and roasty.. deep chocolate and coffee... I swear I am getting some nuttiness.

Flavor is very rich with milk and bittersweet chocolate. some espresso.. and again.. some sort of nuttiness that begins midpalate and lingers to the finish.. after a while, a thick and creamy body shows despite the lingering carbonation slam... I wish I would have taken better notes.. because, this is a seriously nice brew.

Sam.. Your last bottle should be put into a bigass ziplock bag and be put immediately into the fridge .... I doubt all bottles have that carbonation... but that cork could have done damage :-)

Photo of aasher
3.29/5  rDev -20.9%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is an 11oz bottle. It pours a nice medium bodied chocolate brown in color with only a very slight lacing. The aromas are odd. You get a lot of powdery chocolate malt with a strange funk to it. The more I think about it, the more I detect gym socks. That's a no no. Oddly enough it's not as off putting as it sounds or as it could be. Theflavors consist ofa ton of chocolate malt, roasted malt, light coffee, chocolate bar sweetness, and slight alcohol. It's solid and the favors work well together. It drinks really light in body, kind of thin and watery. It's definitely the lightest imperial stout I've had yet. It needs to be more viscous. This definitely hurts the appeal of this beer. I don't see how it could be aged for 25 years being as thin as it is. Overall this is an odd beer. The nose is questionable, the favors are solid, but the body isn't up to par for the style.

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.69/5  rDev +12.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Properly cellared 2 year old bottle. Pours dark brown with ruddy tones, appearing black in the glass. Thin fine light tan head dissipated quickly to a ring around the glass. Intense aroma of roasted malt, mild dark fruit and lots of chocolate. Flavor follows, rich dark roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, lighter coffee and dark fruit notes, incredibly well integrated. The body is thick and creamy. An all round well made treat for the senses. One of the best RIS I've had and hands down the best two year old aged bottle of any stout I've experienced. I'm not getting any oxidation notes from this. This is not distributed in my state and I wish I had bought more of these for the cellar. I see that the other very high scoring review was from the same vintage as this one and also tasted after 2 years, so I'd advise aging this one for a few years for a treat. Exceptional.

Photo of wordemupg
4.29/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

750ml corked and caged poured into tulip 14/2/13

A not quite black with a deep cola edge and just enough clarity to see some bubbles feeding a well sustained two finger mocha head that leaves no lace, perhaps a dirty glass?

S some plum, cherry and chocolate covered raisins, faint peat smoke, cold coffee grinds, hazelnut, hard toffee and just a little booze

T some char and slightly sour cherry with espresso in the mouth opposed to the coffee on the nose, the chocolate's darker in the mouth and I get just a little licorice I didn't smell. much like the nose she's pretty rich but the roast is even darker in the mouth and the booze is better concealed

M medium bodied and just a little foamy, very faint heat with a long chocolaty coffee finish

O what can I say? a great tasting beers easy to like, nice dark roast but not overly intense but not for the faint of heart either, nice and smooth almost to easy to drink

This one's worth looking for, I hope I can get my hands on some of the barrel aged versions in the future. I like the "enjoy within 25 years" on the label made me feel like i was in a rush to drink this beer and I was looking for an excuse to drink a big bottle of stout tonight.

Photo of glid02
4.12/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours black with a very thin layer of tan foam on top. The head recedes into a thin ring around the glass leaving almost no lacing but some decent legs.

Smells of heavily roasted malts with hints of dark chocolate and char. Also present are mild amounts of dry oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Strong roasted malt flavors kick things off with hints of char and tobacco. Midway through the sip the flavor profile sweetens a bit with the addition of dark chocolate. The sip dries out a bit near the end with hints of woodiness. The ending is solidly bitter.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's got a nice thickness however the carbonation is almost non-existent.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall I thought this was a well done beer but for the price I'd have thought the carbonation would be a bit more consistent. Still, it's worth a shot if you're willing to spend the money to find out for yourself.

Photo of jrallen34
4.23/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from the bottle into my Orval glass.
This bottle was brewed August 2008, bottle number 56 of 282.

Thos beer is a huge gusher. The cork almost jumps off and oozes head. As your pour you get at least four fingers of super fluffy medium tan head. The retention and lacing are excellent.

The aroma is strong and supremely unique. It is very sweet giving off a unique flavor of sweet chocolate milk of ice cream. Its really awesome and I keep coming back for more. You also get a whiff of toffee and cocoa.

The taste is pretty malty as well. You get lots of cocoa, a little of the sweet milk left over, with a bitter chocolate finish. A lot is going on here. Its nice but a little something is missing that I can't put my finger on.

The feel is really nice. Tons of carbonation on the tongue and a slight warm bitter finish.

Drinkability is decent.

Overall, I really liked this. It was super unique for a RIS, something I would recommend.

Photo of dirtylou
4.55/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, scooped at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam

brewed 2/18/10, bottled 4/8/10, bottle #771/960

consumed in prague hotel room

appearance: standard de molen label with loads of information and a red-waxed top, served in hotel water glass, rich dark mahogany body, creamy chocolate cap with perfect retention

smell: rich dark chocolate, loads of hops present...really nice

taste: sinfully good - waves of dark chocolate, a touch of mint, aggressively hopped - glad i got to this one in a relatively fresh state. rich roasted malts, nice bitter finish - a world class stout indeed

mouthfeel: creamy, but a little heavy of the foamy feeling

drinkability: good

Photo of dgilks
4.26/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch, midnight black colour with a creamy, foamy, long lasting tan head. Great lacing. Pretty much as good as a stout looks.

Chocolatey roast with distinct alcohol notes. Mild herbal hoppiness. Good.

Bitter, roasty, chocolate flavour. Mild coffee. Distinct, earthy, noble hop flavour. Very good with excellent balance.

Medium-full body with moderate carbonation. Good.

A solid beer with plenty of appropriate flavours and a delightful hoppiness which complements the beer.

Photo of DefenCorps
4.1/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Shared by Mike. Thanks, man! I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this.

Black with a dark brown head that leaves nice lacing, this is an impressive stout. The nose is roasty and yeasty with cocoa and mild bread and a surprising yeasty spiciness, particularly white pepper. Bringing to mind Black Albert in some ways, this is a thick, roasty, yeasty stout. The palate opens roasty, sweet and with quite a bit of cocoa, licorice and some yeast. Cocoa liqueur is present, this is sweet though a little dry on the finish. Medium-full in body with a very high level of carbonation, this finishes yeasty and roasty. Enjoyable in small doses.

Photo of tbeckett
4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle at 't Arendsnest in Amsterdam. Bottle #790. Bottled 10 September, 2010. From notes.

A - Didn't even get the whole bottle in. Two finger, crazy creamy head. Khaki colour on the head. Totally black body. Really creamy head retention. I wrote about 4 lines about how awesome the head retention was, let's just say it was amazing, sticking to the glass everywhere.

S - My initial reaction was filled with explatives. Really inviting, chocolate, coffee, and yeast. Really grabs your nostrils.

T - Tons of chocolate, coffee, and roasted, dark malt. Dark fruit finish and slightly bitter. Everything it should be. Flavours are very intense. No alcohol to speak of.

M - Slightly bitter finish, medium carbonation. Creamy mouthfeel with a full body and chew.

O/D - Lovely stout. Tasty, looks great, smells great, tastes good. A good beer from de Molen. Proper Imperial Stout.

Photo of Jwale73
4.11/5  rDev -1.2%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to KingKong for the generous extra. 11.2oz bottle served in my Old Stock snifter. Pours one shade shy of black with a loose, tan-colored head that quickly dissipates into a froth of bubbles around one side of the bowl. Lacing is fairly minimal and is expressed as spots of foam that exhibit poor adherence. Nose is rich and complex - chocolate malt, prunes, licorice, molasses and vanilla. There's also a trace of oxidation present towards the back. Taste is a bit less pronounced than suggested by the nose - the vanilla drops away, as do the prunes; however, there is also a slight vinous quality as well as an earthy hops bittering at the finish. Mouthfeel is medium-light with a carbonation just shy of still, a slightly oily texture, some acidity that stimulates the sides of the cheeks and a slight burn across the tongue between quaffs. Overall, a very good RIS. Not sure if this is something I would sit on for an extended period, but a solid example of the style and worth seeking out.

Photo of VelvetExtract
3.87/5  rDev -7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

A-Pours black! Good start. The body barfs up a spongy, brown head that slowly deflates. Leaves random, thick lacing.

S-It's hard to describe how the aroma is unique but it is. It's super roasty with chocolate, but aren't all the good Stouts like that? There is something about this one that smells unique. Maybe a sip will enhance my ability to describe...

T-It really reminds me of chocolate covered hazelnuts. Well, maybe not just hazelnuts but a medley of nuts. Also it reminds me of nut flavored coffee. There is also a cool cola aspect to the flavor as well.

M-It's nearly flat...I remember reading on the label that you could age this for 25 years. Well I guess they're going for that flatness because there is no way it'll be more carbonated when I'm 50. It's got a big body with booze that isn't shy.

O-Pretty tasty. Carves it's own niche in a style that I find hard to find flavor intricacies.

Photo of champ103
2.41/5  rDev -42.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This is an 08 bottle.

A: Pours nearly pitch black color. A large, rocky tan head forms with good retention. Rings of sticky lace is left behind.
S: Prune juice, dark fruits, light roast, powdered sugar and chocolate.
T: Really sweet and boozy. To much residual sweetness for me. Acrid, bitter coffee and roast. Big on the prune juice. Dark fruits, more like fruit puree. Lots of bitter coffee lingers on forever. Not enjoying this.
M/D: A full body and moderate carbonation. Though really sticky and syrupy. Like an adhesive to the tongue. Way to sweet and to much hot alcohol for me to enjoy this.

Better than Bommen & Granten. Though that is not saying much. Again, this is just to big, boozy, and sweet for me to want to come back for more.

Photo of cpetrone84
4.17/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Kevin Sharing this one!

A-pours a black liquid, tan caramel colored head.

S-the nose has roasted malt and dark chocolate. a fair amount of anise in middle. caramel malts and toffee lie behind, notes of lactose, bitter burnt coffee in the back.

T-tons of roasted malts, notes of dark chocolate and burnt coffee. a touch of anise behind, vanilla, toffee, caramel. sweet plums in the finish with a touch more bitter coffee.

M-extremely smooth and creamy, full bodied, enough carbonation to hold the body, finish is a little thin.

D-this is a big imperial stout with tons of roasted malts and a good light sweetness to it. nicely done, very good stout.

Photo of drpimento
4.67/5  rDev +12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Fabulous. Extreme beer. I think meant to be almost still, which it is. No head, only a few bubbles. Color is an opaque brown tinged black. Aroma us ultra rich and chocolate malt roast coffee. Flavor is like aroma just a hint of bitterness at the end. Body is excellent despite being almost flat. All my friends sitting here trying it say "Goddamn good beer!" Only hints of alcohol in the end which is lengthy. Absolutely fabulous. Label says ageable up to 25 year. Wonder what an older version tastes like.

Photo of gford217
4.28/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours almost completely opaque black with a one-inch creamy tan head that recedes slowly to a nice collar with some very spotty lacing.

The aroma is sweet with licorice and cocoa with some underlying toasted malts and coffee. Maybe some toasted nuts in there as well - a big nose overall.

The taste is not quite as sweet with dry cocoa up front supported by some heavily roasted malts underneath. Lots of coffee bitterness and some licorice sweetness coming back in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with strong carbonation which makes it seem lighter bodied than it is.

This is definitely the best beer I've had from De Molen, a full-bodied impy stout that still maintains good drinkability.

Photo of cosmicevan
4.77/5  rDev +14.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

thanks to injuredreserve for sending this one my way.
bottle 512
brewed 4/30/2010
bottled 6/18/2010

a - popped the top and filled my ccb snifter. poured a watery black with a reasonable white head that was gone quick leaving a thin slick on the surface.

s - deep roasted chocolate malts. really nice. some coffee notes. big and bold. vanilla glaze.

t - lots of big chocolate and roasted malts. coffee slaps back. some alc, but great roasted chocolate. one of the better RIS i've had in a long time.

m - first thing i noticed when it hit my lips was the silkiness. this is a big bold and full beer, but silky soft and smooth. bready and cooling.

o - overall, world class. one of the best RIS i've ever had. there is just so much goodness in this beer.

Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 554 ratings.