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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & VerdoemenisHel & Verdoemenis

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

453 Ratings
THE BROS
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(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 453
Reviews: 186
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 41
Gots: 121 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

bonbini26, Mar 06, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

ElGallo, Feb 26, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

s1ckboy, Feb 21, 2012
Photo of GregSVT
3.6/5  rDev -13.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

12oz bottle into a wine glass

A: Pours very dark brown with a huge brown head that fades to a layering and leaves a ton of lacing on the glass. Besides the over carbed head this looks beautiful.

S: The nose reveals great notes of cocoa, vanilla, earthy hops, and bakers chocolate.

T: The taste has a ton of chocolate, hops, vanilla, and a slightly fruity wine flavor like dark grapes on the finish. It may be the alcohol that makes it taste a bit like wine.

M: The feel is thinner than a normal RIS and is definitely overcarbed with the alcohol very apparent on the finish.

O: Nice aromas and flavors but the alcohol burn and over carbonation make this tough to appreciate.

GregSVT, Feb 19, 2012
Photo of korguy123
3.33/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 2 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Hell and damnation from notes. Split with my brother in law
June 8, 2009

Zero pop as the cork is removed.

A- Syrupy, thick cola pour, zero head, zero. lacing. Huge white chunks sitting at the bottom.

S- Chocolate, booze, coffee, brown sugar and vanilla.

T- Chocolate and coffee with sweet fark fruits. Definitely smells and tastes much better than it looks.

M- Flat and full bodied, sticky on the lips.

O- I read a lot of reviews on this and they are mostly positive. Bad bottle/poorly stored? Who know. Expected more I guess.

korguy123, Feb 15, 2012
Photo of robwestcott
3.98/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

thanks to kenth for this one.

poured cold and black from the bottle to a surly darkness 12oz snifter with a finger and a half long lasting mocha head leaving a sheet of sticky lace after each sip.

big milk chocolate aroma perhaps with a bit of fig and smoke.

slightly bitter espresso up front, smoke and dark chocolate, hops presence a'la darkness.

medium bodied, creamy, bitter to the roof of the mouth, big carbonation.

overall, a great beer, probably better with age.

robwestcott, Feb 14, 2012
Photo of eduardolinhalis
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle poured in a snifter.

A: Pours a deep brown to black color, many remains in the bottom. Forms a small and dark beige head when poured. Good retention, it never disappears completely leaving a brown, fizzy bubbled layer. Some lacings are formed

S: Strong notes of coffee, dark chocolate, roasted malts and wood. Citrus and earthy hops and alcohol in the end

T: Very strong taste. Dominated by roasted malts, coffee and dark chocolate. The 100IBUs do really count here: Deliciously bitter. Strong personality. It's a dry and bitter beer after all. It has a very creamy and molasses body but not much about sugar

M: Extremely creamy and molasses body. Low carbonation. Delicious bitter aftertaste

O: Absolutely drinkable beer despite of the 10.2% ABV. Great beer

eduardolinhalis, Feb 11, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

samEBC, Feb 10, 2012
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5/5  rDev +20.5%

jwat, Feb 06, 2012
Photo of NittanyBeerFan
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

On tap at TJs during the Super Bowl. Not sure the year of this, but it was pretty green, so I am going to guess it's 2011.

When the beer gets to me, it is topped by only a thin layer of espresso cream head. The body is thick and viscous, and while it doesn't leave any lace, it does leave a swath of oily residue on the glass after a swirl. Some legs, but nothing too spectacular.

The aroma and flavor both fall a little bit flat for me. My initial impressions are of dark fruits and a good amount of alcohol warmth throughout. There is some dark roast coffee/espresso as well that tastes a little bit smokey. Unfortunately, there isn't much to balance out the almost acrid smoke.

The body of this beer is probably the best part of it. Thick and oily, the low carbonation provides a perfect foil for the thick syrupy texture. Overall, there are some places to improve, and I think that age will provide most of the opportunities that Hel & Verdoemenis needs to mature, mellow and blend nicely.

NittanyBeerFan, Feb 06, 2012
Photo of brystmar
3.75/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4

Red waxed bottle #1442/2080 shared by Denise. Bottled on 4/11/2011.

Dark brown pour; thin and watery-looking body. Zero head. Swirling the glass leaves chunky sediment on the sides of my glass, but no real lace. Strong aroma of deeply roasted coffee hits my nose from afar. Traces of fruit esters and alcohol lie in the background.

Espresso dominates the flavor profile. Very roasty. Not as much malt as I'd like, and really not balanced enough for me. Minimal alcoholic warmth as it descends, which is certainly impressive for an imperial stout. Would love to try this again in a few years to see how it develops.

Body is unacceptably weak and watery for the style. Low carbonation is perfect, though. Can tell this blend of flavors was well-crafted, but for now it needs work.

brystmar, Feb 02, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

Kaydogg, Feb 01, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

patm1986, Jan 31, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

Rusty18, Jan 28, 2012
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5/5  rDev +20.5%

kevgod, Jan 28, 2012
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4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

ASUBeer, Jan 28, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

heff316, Jan 26, 2012
Photo of AMiz602
4.9/5  rDev +18.1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

De Molen perfection. This beer is absolutely not for the faint of heart, nor is it a beer to be drunk in any fast fashion. Sit back, relax, and let this puppy warm up.

First, it is as black as any beer can get. The head is a creamy, thick, coffee colored mass of foam that has a very strong coffee, chocolate, cherry smell that throws you for a loop. You can smell the alcohol.

Next, it is almost a syrup, and tastes like a black beer. It has extremely strong chocolate-coffee tastes that match its smell. As it warms up it this taste really mellows out, and becomes a clovey, cardamomy ?, beer that tastes like dessert. It is extremely smooth, and, if drank at the right bar, can really get the "gezellig" on.

This is by and large the best by De Molen, and is a beer that is a great way to end the night on. It has such a full body and taste that it is an experience in and of itself.

AMiz602, Jan 24, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

martijnh, Jan 23, 2012
Photo of nhindian
3.88/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle poured into a Mikkeller wine glass.

Batch 152

A - I barely crack the cap before I'm greeted with a very loud POP. I barely have time to react before I have thick, black foam coating my glass, hand, counter, and whatever is between me and the sink. Yep, it's a gusher. I clean up, pour it SLOWLY down the side of the glass and have about an inch of liquid when the rest is full of mocha-colored head. I turn to grab my camera, and by the time I turn around it is foaming over again. I now hate this beer. When it finally settles, it does look nice, with a pitch black body and great lacing. It sticks to the glass, my hand, paper towels, dishes...

S - The nose on this is almost entirely all roasted malts and give off a fresh-brewed coffee aroma and a bitter chocolate. There is a touch of char as well, but overall it's pretty straightforward, if not intimidating.

T - Given the explosion upon opening, I was expecting this to be infected, but I don't really get any tartness that would indicate a flaw. There is perhaps a trace of dark fruit in the back-end, but that's not uncommon for the style. Otherwise this is roasted bitterness through and through. It's a bit smokey and the char gives it an extra grit as well. Somewhat hoppy as well which is a surprise, but the hops are more earthy and spicy, fitting in with the robust theme of the beer. A good deal of alcohol astringency in the finish is noticeable.

M - Mouthfeel is moderately heavy-bodied with high carbonation. A tad on the syrupy side with a long, bitter aftertaste.

D/O - Drinkability is moderate. This is a big beer and one sip can leave you with a mouth full of flavor. This makes the languishing task of drinking slow both for enjoyment and the fact that the flavors don't exactly lend themselves to being quaffed.

nhindian, Jan 23, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

dprophet, Jan 22, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

crashoveride, Jan 21, 2012
Photo of Jeffo
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

This is a re-review. My first review was back in '09 and I scored it a 3.23. Carbonation was also an issue back then. However, De Molen has been much more consistent lately and the newer batches of H&V have not only been carbonated properly, but they've all seemed to be much more flavorful. Anways, time to give it another go.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled 21 June 2011
Drunk beside a Rasputin

APPERANCE: A dark brown and slightly transparent pour yields a one finger, thicker looking, fluffy, light brown head with great retention. Opaque black body with higher levels of carbonation evident. Head slowly fades to a good foamy wisp cap and clings to the sides of the glass. A splotchy wisp remains and leaves some good lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Bolder nose of roasted and smoky malts, dark chocolate, coffee beans, cocoa powder and some black licorice. Bold and interesting, and much more stout-like than Rasputin.

TASTE: Bolder flavors of roasted and smoky malts and a good dose of dark chocolate, cocoa, espresso coffee and charred malts at the swallow. Lots of bitterness as well. Bold and relentless aftertaste of roasted and burnt malts, bitter coffee and bitter, dark chocolate. Bold flavors and very roasted and chocolate forward. This is more my kind of thing.

PALATE: Medium-full body and medium carbonation. Creamy on the palate, enough weight as well, goes down smooth and finishes slightly mouth-coating. A touch of heat lingers, but well measured.

OVERALL: Now this is more like it. The newer batches have been much improved compared to the older ones, and this imperial stout is way, way more my thing than Rasputin. Big nose and flavor profile, with all the stout characteristics I love, and a good look and feel to top it off. Definitely glad they use this one for their barrel aging projects, as it’s got the big, roasted and chocolate flavors to hold up. Definitely the clear winner over Rasputin. Top notch stuff. Recommended.

Jeffo, Jan 17, 2012
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4/5  rDev -3.6%

tatums1984, Jan 15, 2012
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4.75/5  rDev +14.5%

farundrpar, Jan 14, 2012
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 453 ratings.