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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

462 Ratings
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Ratings: 462
Reviews: 187
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 10.84%
Wants: 42
Gots: 125 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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Photo of Sneevel
4.53/5  rDev +9.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Appearance: dark, blackish with a tight head which disappears quickly.
Smell: caramel, toffee and dark chocolate, very nice.
Taste: a lot of bitter dark chocolate and coffee. Some nice herbal notes and evidence of dry-hopping. Good concentration, and long aftertaste.
Mouthfeel: super creamy, very nice. Small bubbles.
Overall: an excellent stout that doesn't go over the top with burnt flavours and aromas. Great quality - I would buy this again.

Sneevel, Oct 03, 2011
Photo of metter98
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is jet black in color and poured with a thin tan head that quickly completely died down, leaving a thick ring of big bubbles on the surface around the edge of the glass.
S: There are moderate to strong aromas of roasted malts in the nose along with notes of leather and some hints of alcohol. The smell also has some hints of cigar tobacco.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has flavors of roasted malts with hints of alcohol and chocolate.
M: It feels full-bodied and slightly smooth on the palate with a light amount of carbonation. There is warming from the alcohol, particularly in the finish, which also has dryness.
O: The beer is a good sipper as the taste is very complex. The alcohol is definitely noticeable but does not substantially detract from the drinkability.

metter98, Oct 02, 2011
Photo of jsh420
4.65/5  rDev +12%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

pours dark dark brown - looks black 1+ finger tan head that had decent retention and left lacing all over the glass

smells of dark roast - some smoke - licorice - chocolate

taste is out of this world - just like the nose i get all the notes very roasty malt chocolate coffee licorice but add in some fruity hop flavors maybe its the dark fruity malt mixed with all the other flavors but whatever it is - its amazing

mouthfeel - medium body - low carbonation feels slick

overall - a tad on the expensive side but one of the best nom barrel aged RIS i have had in a while - glad i picked up 2

jsh420, Sep 19, 2011
Photo of ErlendA
4.18/5  rDev +0.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

So, I have had two versions of this beer: One served in a 0.75l bottle and one in a 0.33l bottle. The first one was utterly fantastic: licorice, moderate carbonation, smooth bitterness and balanced aromas. The 0.33l was very harsh and I suspect it has to do with the maturation. The first would be a suberb score, but I suspect the other will come along with a couple of years in the cellar.

ErlendA, Sep 16, 2011
Photo of Mar02x
4.4/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

750 ml bottle 10,2% Abv. Bottle number 444
Served room temperature in a Westvleteren glass.
Bottled on 9th of March 2011

A - Pours pitch black in the glass, no foam what so ever. Maybe something wrong?

S - So much chocolate, wood, raisins, dark fruit, coffee. The first sniff yields tons of chocolate syrup and coffee; however heavily roasted malt, charred wood quickly take over and a light sweetness is also noted.

T - Roasted malt, charred wood and heavily roasted coffee, cocoa and burned raisins also present. What a complexity!
There is an odd brown sugary sweetness just before the bitter, dry finish. Is there any alcohol in there?

M - Full body, but not as thick as I expected. Slightly oily with ultra light and smooth carbonation.

O - Great RIS, I will most certainly have this again!

Mar02x, Sep 12, 2011
Photo of BARFLYB
3.9/5  rDev -6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On Tap at TJ'S Everyday in a goblet glass. $4-Happy Hour.

Hel & Verdoemenis is a big black son of a bitch. The liquid is jet black, night sky with some dark brown coca cola bubbles on top that are not well formed. Dwindles to nothing, no stick.

Smell on this one is pretty dirty. Dirty as in a lot going on. Very old world smelling with roasty malt, smoke, some cocco, chocolate and some rotten vanilla. Char and a whiff of alcohol. Pretty bold, but not exquisite, but different.

Taste is going in a bunch of directions. Right off the bat I take this as a real big Baltic Porter with a old world twist. English ingredients, tastes of melted chocolate, some cocco, roasted malt out the ying yang, vanilla, smoke and something else.

Feel is pretty large. The body is big yet the carb is really tame, this could use some more bubbles and life as it's on the flat side, yet it works for the whole old world beer style I think they are shooting for here.

This is great beer, not something i would go for again, hell it took me an hour to take this 12oz's down. It's big and full of taste. I doubt it would last for 25 years in even the best cellar though.

BARFLYB, Sep 09, 2011
Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle 10,0% Abv.
Served chilled in a tulip wine glass.
Bottled on 22 June 2011

Appearance: Pours pitch black in the glass, but a strong backlight reveals dark red edges (it’s always a disappointment when a RIS is not totally opaque). Massive, slightly creamy mocha coloured head that displays great retention and leaves good lace for the Abv.

Smell: Great RIS nose! The first sniff yields tons of chocolate syrup and coffee; however heavily roasted malt, charred wood and a little ash quickly take over. Vanilla, cocoa, tar, smoke, yeast and a light sweetness are also noted.
There is surprisingly little hop character for such a fresh bottle.

Taste: It has been a while since I had a 'black-flavoured' imperial stout, I have missed these flavours! Roasted malt, charred wood and heavily roasted coffee dominate with ash, smoke, cocoa and burned raisins also present.
There is an odd sugary sweetness just before the bitter, dry finish. Great Abv. cover up, I barely noticed the 10%.

Mouthfeel: Full body, but not as thick as I expected. Slightly oily with light ultra smooth carbonation.

Overall: Great RIS, though a little fuller flavour and thicker body would take it up a notch. I will most certainly have this again! I will be buying a few bottles to see how it holds up over its 25 year life span.

Thehuntmaster, Sep 05, 2011
Photo of Rifugium
4.43/5  rDev +6.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

First had: on tap at TJ's Restaurant & Drinkery, Paoli, PA

Poured into a snifter, an opaque, black, with slight hues of brown around the edges. No head whatsoever, and no carbonation to be seen. Thick aroma rich with chocolate. Hints of dark, roasted malts, vanilla and indistinct alcohol, but predominately chocolate. More chocolate on the taste, deep and rich, with almost nothing else coming through at first. After a few sips, and after allowing to rise a few degrees closer to room temperature, more complexity arises: notes of vanilla, licorice, and leather, with the chocolate still reigning as the dominant flavor. Alcohol is noticeable but mostly subdued. Full-bodied, silky smooth, strong, and very drinkable overall, but obviously to be relished and not chugged.

Serving type: on-tap

Rifugium, Aug 29, 2011
Photo of AmericanGothic
4.88/5  rDev +17.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured from an 11.2 ounce bottle into a Sam Adams pint. Brewed March 2011, bottled April, bottle number 304.

A: Pours an opaque, dark brown color with two fingers of tan head. Good lace and outstanding retention-- head lasts the entire glass.

S: Rich milk chocolate and some well-integrated floral notes. Really good.

T: A floral malt flavor up front yields gently to sweet molasses before ending with a gently smokey bitterness. There is also some coffee and chocolate in here. Full-flavored and refined. Some vinous overtones gradually emerge, and also the alcohol shows a bit, but not a problem. Towards the end some mint joins in for a great, bitter mint chocolate flavor. Very complex.

M: Full bodied with lush creaminess and viscosity, almost obscene it is so good.

O: Wow, fantastic stuff. Label says it can age for 25 years, little chance of it lasting that long in my cellar. Pricey and worth it, try it if you can.

AmericanGothic, Aug 27, 2011
Photo of vandemonian
3.73/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

De molen Hel & Verdoemenis is an Ok RIS. Find something better if you can.

A: Black without much head. 3.5

S: Noticable alcohol with some smokey wood. 3.5

T: Has a woody malt flavour and a smokey aftertaste. Lacks the rich maltiness that I was craving. 4

M: Watery. 3.5

O: Meh. 3.5

vandemonian, Aug 24, 2011
Photo of mulder1010
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330 ML bottle poured into a tulip

Thanks to Jonno79 for the bottle. Owe you a box still!!

A-- hmmmm, visible carbonation on a De Molen beer!!! Big plus!
Poured near black and settled black. Just a touch of ruby at the top. Three finger mocha colored head that slowly faded down. Stayed at film through drinking.Very clean and left no lacing. Did get spotty lacing on drinking. Great head retention on swirling.

S-- Chocolate powder, roasted malt, ash, char and chocolate syrup. Not that much hop presence in the nose but a delicious smell to this.

T-- Scorched chocolate, burnt malts, ash, tobacco, and chocolate syrup.

M-- oily, sweet, thick and a bit port like. Has elements of ash in the mid and back mixed with char as well as in finish. Sweet chocolate syrup in the front and a small bit of hop spice.

O-- Quite good. Some US elements and some European elements blended together well. Well hidden ABV and very drinkable. Big, slow sipper and good to cellar as well. Very, very nice.

mulder1010, Aug 17, 2011
Photo of russwbeck
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On tap at Churchkey DC during DC Beer Week 2011

A: Motor oil thick pour without any head or lacing 3.5

S: Deep chocolate, roasted malts and some booze. 4

T; A ton of chocolate on this. Creamy, rich chocolate. Mix that in with roasted malts, some coffee, and a hint of booze and you get a great taste. 4.5

MF: Really heavy body. Thick and creamy. Low carbonation. 4

O: Great beer. Been waiting to try this for a while and it did not
disappoint. 4.5

russwbeck, Aug 15, 2011
Photo of StayWounded
4.55/5  rDev +9.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This was an impulse buy at a local Beer and Wine store. We drank this out of a tulip chilled to recommended temperature. Our Russian Imperial experience is somewhat limited (only having had a few a piece, though I drink Old Rasputin fairly regularly).

a- We liked the darkness and the healthy coffee colored head, pour a little over a finger thick, and dissipated fairly quickly.

s: We loved the smell. It smelled similar to other Russian imperials (dark notes: coffee, dark chocolate, a little nutty), with a bright smell which we assume comes from the Czech hops. Very aromatic.

t: Tastes as a Russian imperial should, with discord through the hop choices. Definitely interesting. Not super traditional but it has it's own charm. Lacks the post drink heat typically associated with this style.

m: We agreed that it was smooth and a bit thick (befitting the style), but had bright almost "tingle" sensation towards the middle. Again, lack of heat the style is typically assosiated with.

Overall: Fantastic beer. Would get again. Very impressed.

StayWounded, Aug 14, 2011
Photo of DaveHS
4.58/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A-Deep brown, almost black, with an inch of dense mocha head. Leaves an intricate web of lacing.

S-Beautiful aromas of black forest cake, maraschino cherries, coffee beans and bitter chocolate.

T/M-Intense chocolate flavors complemented by dry bitterness. Thick and lush, with mouth filling prickly carbonation. The boozy, warming finish is marked by a note of burnt coffee.

O-Really excellent. Love this.

DaveHS, Aug 06, 2011
Photo of billab914
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a tasting glass. It poured pitch black in color with a modest but bubbly tan head to it. A little lacing clinging to the sides of the glass.

The aroma shows a lot of dark chocolate to it right off the bat. It comes off a lot like a dark chocolate brownie with a little nuttiness to it as well. I get some bitter, roasty, coffee flavors but it's an afterthought compared to the dark chocolate brownie flavor. Very appealing aroma overall.

The taste shows more of the chocolate to it up front with some roasty, coffee flavors coming out in the finish. Again, I get a little nuttiness in it as well. Like the aroma, the dark chocolate is what really shines in it for me.

The mouthfeel is heavy with lower carbonation. Overall I thought it was an excellent beer. I loved the thick, heavy mouthfeel mixed with the dark chocolaty, brownie like flavor. Excellent beer overall.

billab914, Aug 04, 2011
Photo of kojevergas
3.38/5  rDev -18.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

De Molen bottled 05 November, 2010. Bottle served into Norrebro Bryghus stemware glass in me friend's gaff in Copenhagen, Denmark. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a half finger head of white colour with nice cream lacing and thickness. Retention is laughably bad. De Molen seems to have a sort of anti-carbonation philosophy on brewing. Colour is a solid brown-black. Nontransparent. Appealing. I do wish the head was better.

Sm: Heavy chocolate, toffee, caramel, and cream. Me broken nose can't distinguish much else; all apologies, lads.

T: The caramel and chocolate hit you smack in the jaw, right from the open on. No cream in the open, but certainly some buried undertones in the body. Not as nutty as expected, but the notes are present. The toffee is a bit corrupted by the chocolate. The chocolate overstays its welcome, continuing strongly through the finish; it'd be better if it faded on the finish to encourage the next sip. No alcohol or yeast comes through. It's complex but structurally brief; there's little time to enjoy all of the flavours fully. It's built well, but the balance is a bit troublesome on account of the dominant chocolate.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Far too thick, however. It's obscenely thick and filling - as thick as you can go without getting syrupy methinks. It's unwarranted, and doesn't complement the flavours of the body. What happened to subtlety?

Dr: I prefer the other versions of this beer that are aged, but this one is worth trying. It's more a sipper, and it's thickness distracts from the character of the taste. It's hard to drink; I wouldn't want more than one. I doubt I'll have it again.

kojevergas, Jul 31, 2011
Photo of tmoneyba
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured a dark reddish brown color with an average frothy brown head that mostly lasted with excellent lacing. Moderate to heavy roasted coffee, chocolate and alcohol aroma. Full body with a smooth texture and flat carbonation. Medium to heavy toasted chocolate malt bittersweet flavor with a medium to heavy dark bittersweet and small alcohol bite finish of moderate to long duration. This is standout beer.

tmoneyba, Jul 12, 2011
Photo of TheGordianKnot
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Brewed on 22 June 2010
Bottled on 20 July 2010
Poured into large snifter type glass...

A- Pours very dark brown with a tiny head that dies almost instantly. Has a pretty viscous appearance, which is exactly what I like to see.

S- A lot of interesting (and unconventional) things going on in the aroma here. There is a lot of roast and underlying sweetness going on here. Fig, molasses, roasted barley, coffee, its all there. Then it hits me, there is something else here; Potato Chips and Chile Pepper! It sounds crazy but by the great power of suggestion, my tasting partner admitted he could see what I was talking about when I mentioned that. Very interesting and enticing.

T/M- While not quite as crazy as the aroma (not necessarily a bad thing) still quite complex. Right away it is noticed how sweet and chocolately it is and how alcoholic it tastes. As with many large beers like this, I get a licorice taste and here that blends well with a nice woody and roast character in the middle of the tongue. The end is just slightly metallic followed by bourbon. Very minimal carbonation and full body makes this an overall great RIS. Though the body isn't quite as full as others I have had, it is silky and smooth, very nice.

O- This is such a great beer. I wish I could find some of this to age for awhile. I was impressed by the overall complexity of the aromas and flavors. Though I usually am a bitch when it comes to the alcholic warmth and taste, this one really lended itself towards the sweetness and overall smoothness of the beer. Look forward to having again, and yes, I will be having this beer again at some point down the road!

TheGordianKnot, Jun 21, 2011
Photo of RockyTopHeel
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Acquired in March in Amsterdam. Label states "Brewed on 19 October 2010, Bottled on 21 December 2010. O.G. 1105. F.G. 1021. EBC Colour 308.9. Cech hops: Bittering hops Premiant as finalhops german Hallertau. 99.9 EBU. Recommended drinking temperature 15 degrees celcius. This beer will be good for 25 years if kept cool and dark. This batch 632 bottles from 33 cl. Bottle number: 277. 10.2% alc/vol."

Deep, dark brown with a volcanic head that settles into a nice layer of brown foam. Floating particulate obvious in the glass.

Aroma of roasted malt and a touch of smoke. Smooth and thick on the palate, like a milkshake of roasted malt, molasses and alcohol. Thick and syrupy-sweet.

A big, bold, anything but bashful beer. Yowza.

RockyTopHeel, Jun 21, 2011
Photo of PeprSprYoFace
4.47/5  rDev +7.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a snifter. Pours super over carbed. Head was at least 3 inches. Took a while to dissapated to a one finger. Ok lacing. Super black with tan head.

Aroma is nice. Nice and roasty. Bit of caramel and dark fruits. Kinda yeasty.

Taste is nice. Carbonation bites your tongue but the nice caramel and dark chocolate notes come through after that then bitter roast in the finish. Your left with almost a chocolate covered espresso bean taste in your mouth.

Mouthfeel is super high carb but the bubbles are fine and the taste is smooth.

Overall a very good Russian imperial. Would buy it again but not often because of the $10 per basically a 12oz bottle is a bit much.

PeprSprYoFace, Jun 20, 2011
Photo of DeanMoriarty
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Picked up a 750ml in a trade with Dawson's Liquor in Severna Park, MD and poured it into a Tripel Karmeliet tulip glass - thanks fellas!

On the Bottle:
Brewed on 28 August 2008
Bottled on 27 August 2008
Bittered with Premiant hops
Final hops German Hallertau
99.9 EBU's

282 bottles from this batch - bottle # 59 of 282

A: Bottle corked with nearly no pop (3 years on the shelf zapped most of the carbonation from the bottle) and poured dark black with a very thin head that dissipates instantly, leaving no lacing in my glass at all.

S: Burnt toast and soy sauce up front that mellows out a bit to reveal nice earthy hop presence, dark chocolate and sweet malt. What a great balance of diverse characteristics!

T: As with the nose, the flavor does not disappoint and blends an array of diverse and interesting flavors to produce an Imperial Stout that is above average and unique.

Big time dark chocolate and grassy hop that get rounded out by bitter flavors of roasted coffee beans - the back end reveals a bit of its 10.5% ABV, finishing with a hint of booze and some raisiny port flavor in there as well.

M: Here's where I was a little let down (as with the appearance as well) - the lack of carbonation really kills the body making it a bit thin and weak for a brew with so many good things going on. It does however finish very clean with some lingering bitterness from the good amount of hops in this brew.

Hell and Damnation!

DeanMoriarty, May 31, 2011
Photo of pkeigs
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

One of my favorites, very fortunate to be able to drink it on tap several times in Amsterdam and at the De Molen. Wish the bottles were more consistent in Colorado.

Opens with to much carbonation, almost seems like it might be a little infected. Pours thick and viscous with a mocha brown head, that leaves great lacing the entire way down the glass. Smells like dark malt, little caramel, little coffee coming through. Tastes like coffee, burnt cocoa and dark malts. No burn from the 10.2 abv, finishes a little dry but leaves me wanting more and more.

pkeigs, May 28, 2011
Photo of DefenCorps
4.08/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Shared by Mike. Thanks, man! I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this.

Black with a dark brown head that leaves nice lacing, this is an impressive stout. The nose is roasty and yeasty with cocoa and mild bread and a surprising yeasty spiciness, particularly white pepper. Bringing to mind Black Albert in some ways, this is a thick, roasty, yeasty stout. The palate opens roasty, sweet and with quite a bit of cocoa, licorice and some yeast. Cocoa liqueur is present, this is sweet though a little dry on the finish. Medium-full in body with a very high level of carbonation, this finishes yeasty and roasty. Enjoyable in small doses.

DefenCorps, May 18, 2011
Photo of drabmuh
3.7/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Thorpe recently served side by side by side with Misto B.A. and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do.

Beer is black with a big tan head (might be a tiny bit over carbonated here). Head sticks around too long too, it becomes a barrier to the beer. Some lacing left behind, heavily carbonated.

The aroma is roasty with a mild sweetness to it. The roast wins out over the sweetness though.

Out of the three this was the least interesting but it still had some nice flavors. The body was thinned otu by the carbonation artificially but there was a lot of roast at the back, a mild sweetness up front and the finish wasn't bittered with hops but with a kind of chocolate / coffee bitterness. Finish is dry. Overall it is fine.

drabmuh, May 16, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
3.7/5  rDev -10.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Bottle picked up at Capone's a few weeks back and served side-by-side with the Misto and Wild Turkey versions. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours near black with a really big and creamy tan head. Great retention and quite a few rings of lacing on the way down. THe nose brings a large amount of roast. Really, really roasty. Some dark chocolate in the background as well. The flavor is mostly roast with just a touch of chocolate and espresso behind. Really highly carbonated with a modest boozy presence. Finish is a bit dry and over-roasted.

Thorpe429, May 14, 2011
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 462 ratings.