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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
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464 Ratings
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Ratings: 464
Reviews: 187
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 10.84%
Wants: 42
Gots: 126 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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Photo of juju7
4.35/5  rDev +4.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Sex in a bottle. Perfectly even head over a black as black body. As well as the chocolatey tar aromas there is a niggling underlying scent of a fruity kind - black cherries. Burnt black cherries maybe? A very delicately balanced RIS. All the flavours gel beautifully in the mouth, very moreish. Manages to feel quite dry while hinting at sweetness at the same time. Really good stuff.

juju7, Aug 28, 2010
Photo of beerpirates
4.25/5  rDev +2.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

33 cl bottel poured in my tulip cantillon glass

A : Pours a nice deep black color, Nice lacing. Mocha creamy head of 2 fingers , after a while the head is about half a finger

S : rich chocolate, roasted malts, raspberries, and some warming alcohol in the end. Deep and complex,

T: rich dark chocolate, strong roasted malts, coffee/espresso ,a small taste of vanilla, and some warming alcohol
Finishes with strong roasted malts and alcohol warming. This is a truly excellent Imperial Stout,

M: full bodied and heavy, Nice carbonation ,

Overall a very Nice smooth russian imperial stout

beerpirates, Aug 23, 2010
Photo of Phyl21ca
4/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle: Poured a deep pitch-black color stout with a large dirty brown foamy head with great retention and some very good lacing as well. Aroma of roasted malt provides some coffee notes with black chocolates and light dry raisins also noticeable. Taste is a very well balance mix between some dry coffee notes with some clear notes of black chocolate and some dry raisins ester. Vanilla is also noticeable and is very well balanced with the creamy texture of the full body. Carbonation is great and alcohol is not detectable. Very well done and somewhat different then most imperials stout which may be due the grain bill use.

Phyl21ca, Aug 20, 2010
Photo of largadeer
4.22/5  rDev +1.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle opened by nickd717. I'm uncertain of the batch.

Opaque dark chocolate brown appearance, very little carbonation and no head, only a slim collar of foam.

Very chocolate-forward aroma with fruity undertones, almost vinous. It smells rich but balanced, reminding me of aged port.

Rich and fruity to the palate, chocolate fudge and dark fruit flavors are prominent along with traces of red grapes, dates and molasses. Full-bodied with low, almost absent carbonation, which wasn't detrimental to my enjoyment of the beer. It finishes bittersweet and chocolatey while hinting at smoke and charcoal. Delicious, though I don't know if I'd want more than a small serving.

largadeer, Aug 13, 2010
Photo of craytonic
3.25/5  rDev -21.7%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

Appearance: Still pour, no carbonation, head or lacing. Jet black, very syrupy apperance.

Smell: Espresso, dark chocolate, dark malts.

Taste: Roasted coffee grounds, rich lightly roasted malts, some faint smoke. A bit too much alcohol

Mouthfeel: Completely still, a bit like molasses. Very thick, it needs at least some carbonation.

Drinkability: if it had some bubbles to it, it would be much better. Probably would benefit from some age as well.

craytonic, Aug 11, 2010
Photo of crusian
3.23/5  rDev -22.2%
look: 2 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

bottle thanks to greggerino...

bottle number 833 from March 20th 2009 bottling.

pain in the ass to open due to the red wax on it. I have a 2008 in the cellar and it is not waxed at all. pulled the cork out, and no pop... uh oh. no carbonation.

pours a thick viscous black... again, no carbonation.
nose is weak chocolate, figs, and roasted barley.

taste is not impressive. I was hoping for a HUGE RIS, and I was severely disappointed... it is thick , nice mouthfeel points for that, minus for no carbonation... chocolate on the palate, roasty, blah blah blah... basically if you like non-carbonated stouts, get it... if not, dont. The 10% is covered well, but seems like this was a screw-up to be honest. this would be really good if it was carbonated. reminds me of the Sam Adams triple boch when I had it a looong time ago.

crusian, Aug 08, 2010
Photo of PittBeerGirl
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Thanks Kevin for sharing this brew!

A- Body appears pitch black-but when held up to the light translucent red hues shine through. Pouts with a thick medium brown collar-some lacing is left behind in the glass.

S- Overripe plum dominates the nose. Behind this is a balance of licorice, anise, roasted malt, some anise, and a hint of alcohol astringency.

T- A slight roasted malt flavor is prominent upfront along with dark chocolate, ripe plum, and a hint of alcohol. The finish is consistent with the initial flavor but adds a hint of licorice and anise. What lingers are impressions of the initial flavor and a warm alcohol heat.

M- Smooth thick and creamy body with low carbonation.

D- This is a nice RIS. The fruit character is a bit ripe for me but the addition of a slight roasted malt presence more than makes up for it. Great brew overall

PittBeerGirl, Jun 29, 2010
Photo of cpetrone84
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Kevin Sharing this one!

A-pours a black liquid, tan caramel colored head.

S-the nose has roasted malt and dark chocolate. a fair amount of anise in middle. caramel malts and toffee lie behind, notes of lactose, bitter burnt coffee in the back.

T-tons of roasted malts, notes of dark chocolate and burnt coffee. a touch of anise behind, vanilla, toffee, caramel. sweet plums in the finish with a touch more bitter coffee.

M-extremely smooth and creamy, full bodied, enough carbonation to hold the body, finish is a little thin.

D-this is a big imperial stout with tons of roasted malts and a good light sweetness to it. nicely done, very good stout.

cpetrone84, Jun 09, 2010
Photo of dirtylou
4.58/5  rDev +10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, scooped at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam

brewed 2/18/10, bottled 4/8/10, bottle #771/960

consumed in prague hotel room

appearance: standard de molen label with loads of information and a red-waxed top, served in hotel water glass, rich dark mahogany body, creamy chocolate cap with perfect retention

smell: rich dark chocolate, loads of hops present...really nice

taste: sinfully good - waves of dark chocolate, a touch of mint, aggressively hopped - glad i got to this one in a relatively fresh state. rich roasted malts, nice bitter finish - a world class stout indeed

mouthfeel: creamy, but a little heavy of the foamy feeling

drinkability: good

dirtylou, Jun 04, 2010
Photo of drpimento
4.7/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Fabulous. Extreme beer. I think meant to be almost still, which it is. No head, only a few bubbles. Color is an opaque brown tinged black. Aroma us ultra rich and chocolate malt roast coffee. Flavor is like aroma just a hint of bitterness at the end. Body is excellent despite being almost flat. All my friends sitting here trying it say "Goddamn good beer!" Only hints of alcohol in the end which is lengthy. Absolutely fabulous. Label says ageable up to 25 year. Wonder what an older version tastes like.

drpimento, May 21, 2010
Photo of glid02
4.15/5  rDev 0%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours black with a very thin layer of tan foam on top. The head recedes into a thin ring around the glass leaving almost no lacing but some decent legs.

Smells of heavily roasted malts with hints of dark chocolate and char. Also present are mild amounts of dry oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Strong roasted malt flavors kick things off with hints of char and tobacco. Midway through the sip the flavor profile sweetens a bit with the addition of dark chocolate. The sip dries out a bit near the end with hints of woodiness. The ending is solidly bitter.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's got a nice thickness however the carbonation is almost non-existent.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall I thought this was a well done beer but for the price I'd have thought the carbonation would be a bit more consistent. Still, it's worth a shot if you're willing to spend the money to find out for yourself.

glid02, May 19, 2010
Photo of weatherdog
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

This was opened up at a March tasting with Tony, I'm finally getting around to transcribing my notes.

75cL bottle with a bottled on date on September 18th 2008. Bottle number 159/570. Poured into a snifter.

It poured a deep black with a nice mocha head that lingers for a while before settling down.

The first thing that hits me is the lack of sweetness that other RIS' have of a similar strength. It's actually quite a refreshing change of pace. The smells that are present are strong bitter chocolate and some straw/grain notes but not nearly as roasty as I'm used to.

The bitterness is very evident in this beer. Paired with the bitterness are a ton of roasty bordering on burnt malt with a ton of bitter chocolate flavors. There is a little medicinal alcohol taste on the back end and that is the only flavor I'm not liking on this stout.

This beer is very full bodied and I'm very surprised by the final gravity reading on the bottle that this beer appears so dry and be light on the tongue to me. Reading the bottle beforehand I was expecting a thick sweet syrup of a beer. Due to this perceived dryness I thought drinkability was above average for the style.

weatherdog, May 18, 2010
Photo of Huhzubendah
3.53/5  rDev -14.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark brown, very little head and no lacing.

S: Subtle roasted malts, alcohol.

T: The first thing I noticed about this beer is that it is in many ways out of character for a RIS. While it is decent beer, it is not nearly as rich and flavorful as I was hoping.

M: Ok feel, low carbonation. Warming alcohol finish.

D: Eh...I've had much better, though this is an interesting beer. It has its own thing happening. Worth a try.

Huhzubendah, May 09, 2010
Photo of jrallen34
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from the bottle into my Orval glass.
This bottle was brewed August 2008, bottle number 56 of 282.

Thos beer is a huge gusher. The cork almost jumps off and oozes head. As your pour you get at least four fingers of super fluffy medium tan head. The retention and lacing are excellent.

The aroma is strong and supremely unique. It is very sweet giving off a unique flavor of sweet chocolate milk of ice cream. Its really awesome and I keep coming back for more. You also get a whiff of toffee and cocoa.

The taste is pretty malty as well. You get lots of cocoa, a little of the sweet milk left over, with a bitter chocolate finish. A lot is going on here. Its nice but a little something is missing that I can't put my finger on.

The feel is really nice. Tons of carbonation on the tongue and a slight warm bitter finish.

Drinkability is decent.

Overall, I really liked this. It was super unique for a RIS, something I would recommend.

jrallen34, Mar 30, 2010
Photo of Nickls
4.13/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled May 15, 2009, bottle # 1038

Pours a very dark, rich dense brown hue that is not nearly as black as others in the style; little to no head at all even when a more vigorous pour is attempted. Oily and viscous looking coming out of the bottle.

Getting a good deal of booze up front on the aroma; rich roastiness, though and some bittersweet chocolate notes; a touch of sweeter plumminess as well. Just a bit hot on the nose for the booze still. Rich and roasty with fresh coffee flavor; some residual sweetness in the finish but not much at all; kiss of alcohol; and the roastiness lingers on the palate after each sip. Lush and viscous MF with barely any noticeable carbonation, rich body. Definitely a sipper, but a pleasant and warming brew. Hits all the good spots for the style even if it is a little hot on the nose.

Nickls, Feb 12, 2010
Photo of Sammy
3.95/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bomber from Bierkoenig. Pours opaque black, it looks thick, and topping white head that stays put. Aromas of roast, coffee, chocolate but not overally so. Taste has the roast, the chocolate,after the get through the hop bitterness which is there but you cannot put a finger on which they are. Very drinkable, this is strong stuff, even with food.

Sammy, Jan 24, 2010
Photo of BEERchitect
4.2/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Batch 171

Holy crap! This is an insane beer! Opening the bottle, the foam began to rise from the neck. A quick pour into the chalice brings a billowing brown head that quickly topples the glass. Trying to inhale the foam, I get choked up because of the power of the beer.

The beer is as black as possible with no penetrating light. The loosely knit bubbles of the head retain well, lace well, and leaves legs on the sides of the glass. An ideal look for a stout.

After the beer settles a bit, it gives up huge aromas of espresso, bitter cocoa, grassy hops, charred woods, light platics, and rich roasted malts. Low on esters or any other complexities, this beer is intimidating to the nose.

Severe flavors of all-things-burnt: cocoa beans, coffee grounds, charred timbers, and a light ashy flavor dominates the glass. Hops try to combat the malts and cannot stand up to the maltiness; but they do give a much needed repreive from all the roasted character. Burnt currants, figs, nuts, dates, and berries are light but rise as the beer warms.

Aggressive and at times, harsh in the texture. Fusal alcohols give a cough-syrup mouthfeel that will undoubtedly take time to mellow out. A wood-like tanning astringency also hinders the mouthfeel a bit. Large, rounded, and thick, this beer is kind of a bully. (1.035 FG?, 1.115 OG? Are you kidding me?) Big time hop bitterness further emphasize the dry and astringent finish. (99.9 EBU? Seriously?)

The batch that I have is a year old. The bottle suggests that this beer can age for 25 years. I believe it will take nearly all that to properly round out.

Thanks jlindros!

BEERchitect, Jan 11, 2010
Photo of jjayjaye
4.33/5  rDev +4.3%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 4.5

Couldn't wait to try this one when i first read about it. Found some at Finger Lakes Beverage Center, in Ithaca. Corked, caged and waxed with a funky red pliable putty. Bottle 155 (of 1052?) into a snifter. Poured aggressively, absolutely no head or lacing and light comes in slightly around the edges, giving it a really thin look. Very dark cola black brown color. The smell is one that I absolutely LOVE and at this point I humble myself to the style Gods whether that unique boozy character is more desirable in a RIS or a Double Stout?? Who knows...but like i said, this variety is my personal preference. Boozy roasted malt, licorice plum/fig baker's chocolate mocha latte ummm...that was the f&* sound of a CELEBRATION!! Full flavored, the taste has that barrel aged vanilla cherry chocolate licorice thing happening (OMG!! Whoohoo).
The mouth feel is a complex DISASTER with a couple of redeeming features. The lack of carbonation is almost haunting..seriously (and that's' coming from a 'babe in the woods' critic). The mouth feel is slightly heavier than water..well maybe not water; let's say prune juice. It's got a medium body and a slick coating texture...that you can't hate. In fact, that coating thing is one of the best things about this one because it really adds a lingering quality that almost...yeah, almost makes up for the lack of carbonation. The 10.2% ABV warms nicely. All in all, the mouth will take a ton of fire, but i've had a gas with this one. Hey, F&* IT, let's sell it to the yanks...they'll drink anything!! My first review of the new decade...and I vow to buy a ticket to the Netherlands if Brouwerij De Molen can figure out what happened with the carbonation!!!!

jjayjaye, Jan 01, 2010
Photo of gford217
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

This one pours almost completely opaque black with a one-inch creamy tan head that recedes slowly to a nice collar with some very spotty lacing.

The aroma is sweet with licorice and cocoa with some underlying toasted malts and coffee. Maybe some toasted nuts in there as well - a big nose overall.

The taste is not quite as sweet with dry cocoa up front supported by some heavily roasted malts underneath. Lots of coffee bitterness and some licorice sweetness coming back in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with strong carbonation which makes it seem lighter bodied than it is.

This is definitely the best beer I've had from De Molen, a full-bodied impy stout that still maintains good drinkability.

gford217, Dec 16, 2009
Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Tasted at the Rare Beer Tasting at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The pours a blackish brown color with virtually no head retention or lacing. The beer was not entirely still; I just think it had seen some serious barrel aging. The nose is intense, but I can't say the aroma pleased me very much. Licorise predominated, along with an underlying woodiness, black tar and coffee. A little bit of licorise is something I tend to like in my impy stouts, but this is just over the top. Flavors replicate the nose pretty closely, except there is considerable sweetness to it. The sweetness helps to counter the licorise somewhat, but I still find it nearly overwhelming. The beer has a fairly smooth mouthfeel, but the licorise, sweetness and high alcohol make drinking this beer an absolute chore.

This beer reminds me very much of the Mikkeller Black, which is not a good thing at all. So clearly this beer is just not my cup of tea. Oh well.

John_M, Oct 20, 2009
Photo of JohnGalt1
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

inflatablechair brought this to Friday's tasting.. Bottle #17.. Sept. 26th '08. Thanks Sam.

Fucking HUUUGEEE gusher.. Eric was twisting off the cage and had maybe a few turns when the cork hit the ceiling like a cannon round.. He got it to the sink and after a coupla pours... it's still foaming like nothing I've seen before... still foaming after 5-6 pours... we walk away for a while.

Once into the glass... and the expected enormous head dies back, a pretty classy brew comes in... 2" dark tan head.. black brew.

The foam is gone.. and this is a pretty damn nice RIS.. thick and roasty.. deep chocolate and coffee... I swear I am getting some nuttiness.

Flavor is very rich with milk and bittersweet chocolate. some espresso.. and again.. some sort of nuttiness that begins midpalate and lingers to the finish.. after a while, a thick and creamy body shows despite the lingering carbonation slam... I wish I would have taken better notes.. because, this is a seriously nice brew.

Sam.. Your last bottle should be put into a bigass ziplock bag and be put immediately into the fridge .... I doubt all bottles have that carbonation... but that cork could have done damage :-)

JohnGalt1, Oct 12, 2009
Photo of beachbum1975
4.28/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Thanks again, RoyMunson, you've outdone yourself!

Bottle #14 brewed Sept of 2008.

Pours a very dark and cloudy brown with a grayish to dark tan head. 1/8 inch head remains as it sits idle in my snfter for about 10 minutes. No lacing seen in my pour.

Sweet, roasted nuts, sweet malts, baker's chocolate and coffee grinds on the nose. Big and plentiful...

High carbonation for a RIS... BIG flavor profile, lots going on. Thick, rich and nasty. Flavor on the mouth reflects that of the nose... It all wraps up with a slight warming from the alcohol presence.

Wow. Try this beer if you get the chance!

beachbum1975, Oct 11, 2009
Photo of FtownThrowDown
3.98/5  rDev -4.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle popped by RoyMunson.

Pours black in color. There's a nice quarter inch of mocha colored head on top of the beer. Smell is very roasty coffee.

Taste is much more roasted, brash coffee than was in the nose. This is intense coffee and a huge beer. Nice dark chocolate flavors coming through as well.

Pretty high amount of carbonation. You can pick up the carbonation big time in the mouthfeel and it alters the flavor some as well.
Very good, very big beer. Glad I had the chance to try this one.

FtownThrowDown, Oct 11, 2009
Photo of pwoods
4.3/5  rDev +3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks to Sean for crackin' dis bitch.

Bottled 9/08, brewed about a year earlier.

750ml corked and caged brown bottle poured into a GLBC snifter.

A: Pours pitch black, no light. Huge frothy head on the pour. Nice retention, holding at a fat skim. Good lacing.

S: Great aroma. Deep, complex roasted aroma. Some bitter chocolate mixed in but there's a more dominant smooth, creamy, rich milk chocolate. Healthy dose of coffee. Fresh baked cookies and cookie dough. Some light, whiskey like aroma in the back. Fucking awesome.

T/M: More of the same in the taste. Very complex roast, some bitterness from that. More of the coffee and bitter chocolate play in the back of the rich, milk chocolate and fresh baked soft cookies. Alcohol is there but smooth and complex. Body is about full with very high carbonation that makes it feel almost airy... over carbonation from infection?

D: Big ABV and complex but damn is this tasty. I have to force myself to take my time. This could age beautifully.

pwoods, Oct 11, 2009
Photo of kegger22
3.5/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Pours a dark brown with red under tones. No head at all, I was actually able to count the bubbles, there were 18 on them. A boozy, coffee aroma. Taste was not the expected coffee and chocolate, what I got was vanilla and alcohol; and sickly sweet. Hell and Damnation did not improve as it warmed either. Feel was fairly thick but zero carbonation (and carbo might have helped). Drinkability was average, only if you have a sweet tooth. Overall, I am extremely disappointed. For a highly rated (and reading the reviews it seems like 3 or 4 different beers are being rated), and high priced beer, this is over sweet, under flavored and carbonated, and in general, an inadequate beer.

kegger22, Aug 20, 2009
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 464 ratings.