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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
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491 Ratings
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Ratings: 491
Reviews: 191
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 10.82%
Wants: 42
Gots: 133 | FT: 8
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Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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Photo of MasterSki
3.93/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Picked up a bottle from West Lakeview, drank some by itself and mixed the rest with a Black Albert to make a "Black Damnation". Bottle #48 of 282. Served in a pint glass.

A - Gusher! Ridiculous mocha foam with incredible retention and tons of lacing - we must have poured five glasses before the foam stopped bubbling out of the bottle. Dark, dark, brown color with some obvious sediment. If it hadn't been a gusher it would have been nearly perfect.

S - Huge maltiness with lots of chocolate, coffee, and also a ton of dry hopping (apparently Hallertau, according to the bottle), that provides some fruitiness. It's also quite boozy.

T - Not that far from the black IPA I had earlier in the day, but with a bunch of woodiness and more chocolate. The aftertaste is full of both hoppy and roasty bitterness. Pretty boozy in the flavor. Doesn't seem to taste infected (like the previous review), but I didn't have another bottle to compare against.

M - Medium body, lots of residual stickiness. Smooth and creamy, with a warming sensation. Could be a bit bigger for such a strong RIS.

D - It's boozy - and the flavor gets a little palate destroying. The texture is really nice though, and it goes down really easy.

I found blending with Black Albert really improved things, but made me wonder why I didn't just drink the Black Albert on its own, as the blend was still less satisfying. Also, adding the 13% Black Albert to the 10.2% Hel & Verdoemenis somehow made things LESS boozy - the ABV could definitely be hidden a little better in the De Molen.

Photo of drabmuh
3.7/5  rDev -11.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Thorpe recently served side by side by side with Misto B.A. and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do.

Beer is black with a big tan head (might be a tiny bit over carbonated here). Head sticks around too long too, it becomes a barrier to the beer. Some lacing left behind, heavily carbonated.

The aroma is roasty with a mild sweetness to it. The roast wins out over the sweetness though.

Out of the three this was the least interesting but it still had some nice flavors. The body was thinned otu by the carbonation artificially but there was a lot of roast at the back, a mild sweetness up front and the finish wasn't bittered with hops but with a kind of chocolate / coffee bitterness. Finish is dry. Overall it is fine.

Photo of Rifugium
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

First had: on tap at TJ's Restaurant & Drinkery, Paoli, PA

Poured into a snifter, an opaque, black, with slight hues of brown around the edges. No head whatsoever, and no carbonation to be seen. Thick aroma rich with chocolate. Hints of dark, roasted malts, vanilla and indistinct alcohol, but predominately chocolate. More chocolate on the taste, deep and rich, with almost nothing else coming through at first. After a few sips, and after allowing to rise a few degrees closer to room temperature, more complexity arises: notes of vanilla, licorice, and leather, with the chocolate still reigning as the dominant flavor. Alcohol is noticeable but mostly subdued. Full-bodied, silky smooth, strong, and very drinkable overall, but obviously to be relished and not chugged.

Serving type: on-tap

Photo of beernads
3.75/5  rDev -9.9%

Photo of mdfb79
4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bought a bottle of this at Max's in Baltimore, MD this afternoon.

a - Pours a dark brown, almost black color, with light carbonation evident and one inch of tan head. Looks pretty great.

s - Smells of sweet chocolate, vanilla, roasted malts, coffee.

t - Tastes of coffee, sweet and dark fruits, roasted malts, light vanilla, and alcohol.

m - Full body and low carbonation, smooth and thick body.

d - A very nice RIS. It looked awesome and had a great mouthfeel to it. Would definitely have again.

Photo of Rochefort10nh
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of kojevergas
3.38/5  rDev -18.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

De Molen bottled 05 November, 2010. Bottle served into Norrebro Bryghus stemware glass in me friend's gaff in Copenhagen, Denmark. Reviewed from notes.

A: Pours a half finger head of white colour with nice cream lacing and thickness. Retention is laughably bad. De Molen seems to have a sort of anti-carbonation philosophy on brewing. Colour is a solid brown-black. Nontransparent. Appealing. I do wish the head was better.

Sm: Heavy chocolate, toffee, caramel, and cream. Me broken nose can't distinguish much else; all apologies, lads.

T: The caramel and chocolate hit you smack in the jaw, right from the open on. No cream in the open, but certainly some buried undertones in the body. Not as nutty as expected, but the notes are present. The toffee is a bit corrupted by the chocolate. The chocolate overstays its welcome, continuing strongly through the finish; it'd be better if it faded on the finish to encourage the next sip. No alcohol or yeast comes through. It's complex but structurally brief; there's little time to enjoy all of the flavours fully. It's built well, but the balance is a bit troublesome on account of the dominant chocolate.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Far too thick, however. It's obscenely thick and filling - as thick as you can go without getting syrupy methinks. It's unwarranted, and doesn't complement the flavours of the body. What happened to subtlety?

Dr: I prefer the other versions of this beer that are aged, but this one is worth trying. It's more a sipper, and it's thickness distracts from the character of the taste. It's hard to drink; I wouldn't want more than one. I doubt I'll have it again.

Photo of InspectorBob
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of orangesol
4.03/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Served on-tap at O'reilly's into a snifter.

A - Pours deep dark brown with a creamy one finger tall tan head leaving light streaks of lace down the entire glass.

S - Smells of rich bakers chocolate, subdued dark roasted malt, coffee, tobacco, and a pretty decent sized dose of hops. There is a good bit of booze as well.

T - Starts off with a big dose of sweet chocolate slowly giving way to a mix of coffee, tobacco, caramel cream, hops, and the ever present dark roast. This one is pretty boozy, only getting stronger as it comes to room temperature. The finish is a mix of sweet chocolate and dark roast, lingering on the pallet for some time.

M - Heavy body and flavor with moderate carbonation. Big, sweet, boozy feel throughout the glass. I am not sure why but this one was working for me. Maybe after all those roasty stouts this sweet one really hit the spot.

O - I liked this one. De Molen makes some amazing beers and this may very well be one of them. I am glad I have a bottle of this one in the cellar already, can't wait to try it after some of this booze dies down.

Photo of corby112
4.05/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Draft at Capones in Norristown, PA.

Pours pitch black and completely opaque with a two finger, frothy dark mocha head.  Excellet retention only slowly fading into a thick, lasting ring. Large chunks of soapy lacing left behind.  Looks amazing!

Deeply roasted dark malt aroma that doesn't become burnt or acrid. Hints of toast, dark chocolate, roasted coffee bean and oatmeal along with subtle lactic cream and sweeter malt notes.

Medium bodied with a good balance of roasted malt, silky chocolate, sweet booze, lactic cream and subtle hops.  Chewy and roasty that verges on being burnt but never tips over that edge.  Lactic cream and sweeter chocolate notes balance things out.  Bitter earthy hops with a touch of pine compliment the dark chocolate, roasted coffee bean and oatmeal.  Complex, well balanced and easy to drink.  Slight boozy swetness and heat toward the finish but overall the high abv is nicely masked.

Photo of superspak
4.43/5  rDev +6.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

330 ml bottle into tulip glass; bottled on 4/8/2011, bottle 1671. Pours dense pitch black color with a nice 1-2 finger dense dark tan head with great retention, that reduces to a nice cap that lingers. Nice soapy lacing clings on the glass. Got a few gel chunks from the bottom in there too. Aromas of huge dark chocolate, char, roasted malt, coffee, smoke, molasses, raisin, and roasted earthiness. Damn nice aromas with good balance and complexity of roasted and dark malt notes. Taste of huge dark chocolate, roasted malt, char, toast, coffee, smoke, floral, molasses, vanilla, raisin, and roasted earthiness. Lingering notes of dark chocolate, roasted malt, toast, char, coffee, smoke, molasses, raisin, vanilla, and roasted earthiness on the finish for a while. Incredible complexity, robustness, and balance of deep roasted flavors with moderate dark malt sweetness; and zero cloying sweetness after the finish. Light-medium carbonation and very full bodied; with a very creamy, slick, and chalky mouthfeel that is fantastic. Alcohol is very well hidden with only a small warming noticed after the finish. Overall this is an incredible imperial stout! Big complexity and balance of roasted and dark malt flavors; and very smooth to sip on. An extremely enjoyable offering.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.45/5  rDev +7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle purchased from Slowbeer in Melbourne. Classic, dull de Molen black-and-white label. I love how iconic and yet how boring these are.

Pours a deep, fine black, turning to weak coffee coloured at the very edges. Head is solid—surprising, given how little it vzzted on opening—a good, decently thick and fine mocha brown. Some spotty lace. Carbonation is persistent and very fine. Looks very good indeed.

Nose is toasty and dark, with a fiery character to it: not quite smoky, but almost sulphury or like match phosphorous. Certainly a sharp, volatile hint of booze to it, but it's really tied nicely to the darkness and the intensity—one of those beers that really uses the extra alcohol content as leverage for flavour. Lovely. It does a bunch of stuff that is rare or special, even in a big RIS.

Taste matches this: big roasty characters, and lovely boozy notes integrated into the body and structure of the beer. Roast, coffee, charred pork belly, minimal, but sticky sweetness on the back. This beer is based on a dark roast character, and it sticks by it beautifully, embellishing it here and there with beautiful accents that make it complex and interesting.

Feel is smooth but a little thin: certainly good enough, but perhaps not pulling its weight as far as the beer goes on the whole.

Overall though, this is very, very good stuff. Complex and rich, tasty and drinkable, and yet laced with slightly unusual characters which make it stand out on its own—that's enough to push this beer from "good" to "superb".

Photo of Gonzoillini
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of wl0307
4.01/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

At 10.0%abv., coming in a slim 330ml brown bottle; bottling date 09/11/2012, served lightly chilled in a straight imperial pint glass. Notes: the beer label specifies the ingredients to include water, pale, brown, chocolate and cara barley malts, premiant, saaz (bittering hop) and yeast.

A: pours a pitch black colour with a thin sheet of dark khaki foam and very light carbonation.
S: upfront comes a very robust and deep smell of burned bones, black beans, and burned Turkish coffee with an acute edge of acidity, savoury and sour at the same time… underneath this bizarre façade of roastiness, the chocolate malts and aromatic resinous hoppiness wake up to the call of a good swirl, along with walnuts, ripe pear-ish esters, black dates, creamy toffee and licorice. All in all, it is as complicated as it is quiet on the nose.
T: the smooth and deeply roasted malty foretaste has plenty of acidic-sweet overripe dark stone fruits, black prune jam, bitter-sweet coffee, and bitter nuts, smoothened by brown- and lighter-coloured malts, somewhat slick on the palate at the same time; turning slightly plummy estery towards the finish, moderately bitter, chewy and roasty-dry as in deep-roast coffee plus hop leaves, but the palate is also balanced by the sweet elements and a very sound acidity all in all.
M&O: smooth and slick on the palate, the carbonation remains pretty low, against a rich and robust body and flavour profile where alc. is generally hidden very well. This beer is actually like a modern take on the Russian Imperial Stout without the pronounced hoppiness. A beer worth slow sipping.

Photo of DoubleJ
3.78/5  rDev -9.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

It's the attack of the numbers! 99 EBU, 1031 FG, 308.9 EBC Colour, 468 bottles in 33 cl bottle. Enough of the numbers, on to the beer:

Ink black in color, topped off by a good, slight tanned head with decent retention. There's some unwanted sediment which gives the overall appearance a little eyesore, even as a few ounces were left in the bottle. The aromas are pleasant, though mild. There's a chocolate coffee combination with a touch of cherry. Also a little bit of alcohol.

I can't make much of a complaint about the taste. Big and bittersweet. It grabs your tongue with a whipping of chocolate sauce and coffee combination. As the sweetness hits its peak, a modest kick of solvent alcohol and a thrashing bitterness (with some piney notes) give the coffee character more of a bitter coffee flavor. If the booze were hidden better, this would be very close to Darkness. It's full bodied and leaves a satisfying stick around the lips.

If De Molen were looking to make a good American-style imperial stout, mission accomplished. Price aside, fans of the style should give it a try.

Photo of BARFLYB
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On Tap at TJ'S Everyday in a goblet glass. $4-Happy Hour.

Hel & Verdoemenis is a big black son of a bitch. The liquid is jet black, night sky with some dark brown coca cola bubbles on top that are not well formed. Dwindles to nothing, no stick.

Smell on this one is pretty dirty. Dirty as in a lot going on. Very old world smelling with roasty malt, smoke, some cocco, chocolate and some rotten vanilla. Char and a whiff of alcohol. Pretty bold, but not exquisite, but different.

Taste is going in a bunch of directions. Right off the bat I take this as a real big Baltic Porter with a old world twist. English ingredients, tastes of melted chocolate, some cocco, roasted malt out the ying yang, vanilla, smoke and something else.

Feel is pretty large. The body is big yet the carb is really tame, this could use some more bubbles and life as it's on the flat side, yet it works for the whole old world beer style I think they are shooting for here.

This is great beer, not something i would go for again, hell it took me an hour to take this 12oz's down. It's big and full of taste. I doubt it would last for 25 years in even the best cellar though.

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.53/5  rDev -15.1%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A: Dark brown, very little head and no lacing.

S: Subtle roasted malts, alcohol.

T: The first thing I noticed about this beer is that it is in many ways out of character for a RIS. While it is decent beer, it is not nearly as rich and flavorful as I was hoping.

M: Ok feel, low carbonation. Warming alcohol finish.

D: Eh...I've had much better, though this is an interesting beer. It has its own thing happening. Worth a try.

Photo of afsdan
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

Photo of jdhilt
4.09/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a one finger khaki head that fades quickly leaving no lace. Black color, no highlights ton of yeast left in bottle. Light carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is baked molasses and bourbon. Bottled 2/29/12, expensive at $9.99 for a 330ml bottle from Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA

Photo of smakawhat
4.18/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Poured on tap into a sampler flight at Pizza Paradiso Dupont.

Dark walnut brown appearance but there's some really nice red hue to this particularly noticeable when finishing. Perfect espresso looking head, with a coffee creamy tan top that's always present while drinking. Really does look like an espresso presented in this taster.

Bouquet just rips. Thick roast coffee flavors and dark roasty malts and lots of sweet smelling cream. Vanilla tones nearly peek out a bit, with a mix of dominant coffee that match wonderfully. Fantastic smelling brew.

Palate delivers but with a little less fanfare than appearance and aroma. Classic coffee angles, and a slick dark bitter chocolate in the mid palate. Lots of hop bitterness on the finish as well complimenting but sort of indistinguishable to pick out. Light bodied in feel but not watery but some thin carbonation distracts a bit from the palate.

Overall though a very worth Russian Imperial stout.

Photo of Mebuzzard
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of BillRoth
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of iL0VEbeer
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 491 ratings.