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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

490 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 490
Reviews: 191
rAvg: 4.16
pDev: 10.82%
Wants: 42
Gots: 133 | FT: 8
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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Photo of Wasatch
3.05/5  rDev -26.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Thanks goes out to injuredreserve for this brew.

12oz. Bottle
Red Wax
Brewed: 30 Apr 10
Bottled: 18 Jun 10
Bottle 468 of 2040

Poured into a chalice a black color, nice carbonation, nice little fizzy tan head, which leaves a nice medium thick/creamy oil slick in the middle of the glass. The nose is malty, with some hop notes, lots of licorice, chocolate. The taste is malty, too much licorice notes, kinda medicinal, chocolate, with some hop notes. Full-Medium body. Drinkable, I was expecting a much better tasting brew instead of what was in this bottle. Maybe a few years on it would help out.

Photo of biegaman
4.09/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Hel & Verdoemenis ("Hell & Damnation") looks dark and evil enough that Satan himself may have spawned it. It is pitch-black and, unlike so many Russian Imperial Stouts, doesn't even have brown edging along its trim; it's black through and through. No head formed, not even from a hard, entirely upright pour.

The aroma has blocks of bakers chocolate, hints of barbecue stones, blackberry jam, and stale coffee grounds. It amounts to be one tall order even for a RIS. This is the point where anyone who didn't know ahead of time what they were getting themselves into will bail; it's more than a little intimidating if you're not familiar with the style.

A dollop of French vanilla ice cream is added to the beer's dark chocolatey profile. Coffee is more noticeable in the flavour as well, as are dark dried fruits and black licorice which tend to linger all the way through the aftertaste. It ticks off all the flavour boxes on the RIS checklist but isn't exactly flashy; it leaves a thing or two to be desired.

The mouthfeel has hints of vanilla and caramel sweetness and a dryness that is reminiscent of oak, though this original version isn't barrel-aged. My imagination is trying to convince of me of a dash of cinnamon-like spice, but in reality this beer is oily and bitter as black coffee.

Drinking Imperial Stouts is like gazing up at a mountain top: just as you'd look up and wonder "how could anyone climb that high?" you're left contemplating "how can barley and hops end up tasting so rich and decadent?". Here, Brouwerij De Molen has offered up a Kilimanjaro of a beer.

Photo of John_M
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 2.5

Tasted at the Rare Beer Tasting at Max's during Baltimore Beer Week.

The pours a blackish brown color with virtually no head retention or lacing. The beer was not entirely still; I just think it had seen some serious barrel aging. The nose is intense, but I can't say the aroma pleased me very much. Licorise predominated, along with an underlying woodiness, black tar and coffee. A little bit of licorise is something I tend to like in my impy stouts, but this is just over the top. Flavors replicate the nose pretty closely, except there is considerable sweetness to it. The sweetness helps to counter the licorise somewhat, but I still find it nearly overwhelming. The beer has a fairly smooth mouthfeel, but the licorise, sweetness and high alcohol make drinking this beer an absolute chore.

This beer reminds me very much of the Mikkeller Black, which is not a good thing at all. So clearly this beer is just not my cup of tea. Oh well.

Photo of billab914
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

750ml bottle poured into a tasting glass. It poured pitch black in color with a modest but bubbly tan head to it. A little lacing clinging to the sides of the glass.

The aroma shows a lot of dark chocolate to it right off the bat. It comes off a lot like a dark chocolate brownie with a little nuttiness to it as well. I get some bitter, roasty, coffee flavors but it's an afterthought compared to the dark chocolate brownie flavor. Very appealing aroma overall.

The taste shows more of the chocolate to it up front with some roasty, coffee flavors coming out in the finish. Again, I get a little nuttiness in it as well. Like the aroma, the dark chocolate is what really shines in it for me.

The mouthfeel is heavy with lower carbonation. Overall I thought it was an excellent beer. I loved the thick, heavy mouthfeel mixed with the dark chocolaty, brownie like flavor. Excellent beer overall.

Photo of sendbeer
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of PEIhop
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of JohnGalt1
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

inflatablechair brought this to Friday's tasting.. Bottle #17.. Sept. 26th '08. Thanks Sam.

Fucking HUUUGEEE gusher.. Eric was twisting off the cage and had maybe a few turns when the cork hit the ceiling like a cannon round.. He got it to the sink and after a coupla pours... it's still foaming like nothing I've seen before... still foaming after 5-6 pours... we walk away for a while.

Once into the glass... and the expected enormous head dies back, a pretty classy brew comes in... 2" dark tan head.. black brew.

The foam is gone.. and this is a pretty damn nice RIS.. thick and roasty.. deep chocolate and coffee... I swear I am getting some nuttiness.

Flavor is very rich with milk and bittersweet chocolate. some espresso.. and again.. some sort of nuttiness that begins midpalate and lingers to the finish.. after a while, a thick and creamy body shows despite the lingering carbonation slam... I wish I would have taken better notes.. because, this is a seriously nice brew.

Sam.. Your last bottle should be put into a bigass ziplock bag and be put immediately into the fridge .... I doubt all bottles have that carbonation... but that cork could have done damage :-)

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.9/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330 mL bottle poured into a Firestone snifter. Bottle #1058, 4/8/2011.

Appearance - Black body with a nice khaki head. Nice thick collar. Swirls nicely with a thick layer of bubbles on the side of the glass.

Smell - Roasty. Bitter chocolate and strong coffee. Molasses comes through, too. A little boozy.

Taste - Even roastier than the aroma hints. Lots of bitter chocolate and coffee. It's the most dominant flavor. The finish gives just a hit of molasses and toffee. A lingering sweetness balances a strong bitter aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Just a little bit too sweet in the finish. It balances the roast well, but it lingers a long time. Well carbonated. Maybe too much.

Overall - Nice. Lacking in some complexity, but a nice experiment in intense roasted malt flavors.

Photo of rolltide8425
4.5/5  rDev +8.2%

Photo of LiquidAmber
4.73/5  rDev +13.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Properly cellared 2 year old bottle. Pours dark brown with ruddy tones, appearing black in the glass. Thin fine light tan head dissipated quickly to a ring around the glass. Intense aroma of roasted malt, mild dark fruit and lots of chocolate. Flavor follows, rich dark roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, lighter coffee and dark fruit notes, incredibly well integrated. The body is thick and creamy. An all round well made treat for the senses. One of the best RIS I've had and hands down the best two year old aged bottle of any stout I've experienced. I'm not getting any oxidation notes from this. This is not distributed in my state and I wish I had bought more of these for the cellar. I see that the other very high scoring review was from the same vintage as this one and also tasted after 2 years, so I'd advise aging this one for a few years for a treat. Exceptional.

Photo of glid02
4.15/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours black with a very thin layer of tan foam on top. The head recedes into a thin ring around the glass leaving almost no lacing but some decent legs.

Smells of heavily roasted malts with hints of dark chocolate and char. Also present are mild amounts of dry oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Strong roasted malt flavors kick things off with hints of char and tobacco. Midway through the sip the flavor profile sweetens a bit with the addition of dark chocolate. The sip dries out a bit near the end with hints of woodiness. The ending is solidly bitter.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's got a nice thickness however the carbonation is almost non-existent.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall I thought this was a well done beer but for the price I'd have thought the carbonation would be a bit more consistent. Still, it's worth a shot if you're willing to spend the money to find out for yourself.

Photo of drummermattie02
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of wordemupg
4.3/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

750ml corked and caged poured into tulip 14/2/13

A not quite black with a deep cola edge and just enough clarity to see some bubbles feeding a well sustained two finger mocha head that leaves no lace, perhaps a dirty glass?

S some plum, cherry and chocolate covered raisins, faint peat smoke, cold coffee grinds, hazelnut, hard toffee and just a little booze

T some char and slightly sour cherry with espresso in the mouth opposed to the coffee on the nose, the chocolate's darker in the mouth and I get just a little licorice I didn't smell. much like the nose she's pretty rich but the roast is even darker in the mouth and the booze is better concealed

M medium bodied and just a little foamy, very faint heat with a long chocolaty coffee finish

O what can I say? a great tasting beers easy to like, nice dark roast but not overly intense but not for the faint of heart either, nice and smooth almost to easy to drink

This one's worth looking for, I hope I can get my hands on some of the barrel aged versions in the future. I like the "enjoy within 25 years" on the label made me feel like i was in a rush to drink this beer and I was looking for an excuse to drink a big bottle of stout tonight.

Photo of dirtylou
4.58/5  rDev +10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

12oz bottle, scooped at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam

brewed 2/18/10, bottled 4/8/10, bottle #771/960

consumed in prague hotel room

appearance: standard de molen label with loads of information and a red-waxed top, served in hotel water glass, rich dark mahogany body, creamy chocolate cap with perfect retention

smell: rich dark chocolate, loads of hops present...really nice

taste: sinfully good - waves of dark chocolate, a touch of mint, aggressively hopped - glad i got to this one in a relatively fresh state. rich roasted malts, nice bitter finish - a world class stout indeed

mouthfeel: creamy, but a little heavy of the foamy feeling

drinkability: good

Photo of Evil_Pidde
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of Hopheadjeffery
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of xnicknj
4.25/5  rDev +2.2%

Photo of jrallen34
4.2/5  rDev +1%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

I drank this from the bottle into my Orval glass.
This bottle was brewed August 2008, bottle number 56 of 282.

Thos beer is a huge gusher. The cork almost jumps off and oozes head. As your pour you get at least four fingers of super fluffy medium tan head. The retention and lacing are excellent.

The aroma is strong and supremely unique. It is very sweet giving off a unique flavor of sweet chocolate milk of ice cream. Its really awesome and I keep coming back for more. You also get a whiff of toffee and cocoa.

The taste is pretty malty as well. You get lots of cocoa, a little of the sweet milk left over, with a bitter chocolate finish. A lot is going on here. Its nice but a little something is missing that I can't put my finger on.

The feel is really nice. Tons of carbonation on the tongue and a slight warm bitter finish.

Drinkability is decent.

Overall, I really liked this. It was super unique for a RIS, something I would recommend.

Photo of Lare453
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of aasher
3.35/5  rDev -19.5%
look: 4 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

This is an 11oz bottle. It pours a nice medium bodied chocolate brown in color with only a very slight lacing. The aromas are odd. You get a lot of powdery chocolate malt with a strange funk to it. The more I think about it, the more I detect gym socks. That's a no no. Oddly enough it's not as off putting as it sounds or as it could be. Theflavors consist ofa ton of chocolate malt, roasted malt, light coffee, chocolate bar sweetness, and slight alcohol. It's solid and the favors work well together. It drinks really light in body, kind of thin and watery. It's definitely the lightest imperial stout I've had yet. It needs to be more viscous. This definitely hurts the appeal of this beer. I don't see how it could be aged for 25 years being as thin as it is. Overall this is an odd beer. The nose is questionable, the favors are solid, but the body isn't up to par for the style.

Photo of Axnjxn
3.5/5  rDev -15.9%

Photo of DefenCorps
4.08/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Shared by Mike. Thanks, man! I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this.

Black with a dark brown head that leaves nice lacing, this is an impressive stout. The nose is roasty and yeasty with cocoa and mild bread and a surprising yeasty spiciness, particularly white pepper. Bringing to mind Black Albert in some ways, this is a thick, roasty, yeasty stout. The palate opens roasty, sweet and with quite a bit of cocoa, licorice and some yeast. Cocoa liqueur is present, this is sweet though a little dry on the finish. Medium-full in body with a very high level of carbonation, this finishes yeasty and roasty. Enjoyable in small doses.

Photo of eawolff99
4/5  rDev -3.8%

Photo of dgilks
4.28/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pitch, midnight black colour with a creamy, foamy, long lasting tan head. Great lacing. Pretty much as good as a stout looks.

Chocolatey roast with distinct alcohol notes. Mild herbal hoppiness. Good.

Bitter, roasty, chocolate flavour. Mild coffee. Distinct, earthy, noble hop flavour. Very good with excellent balance.

Medium-full body with moderate carbonation. Good.

A solid beer with plenty of appropriate flavours and a delightful hoppiness which complements the beer.

Photo of champ103
2.35/5  rDev -43.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

This is an 08 bottle.

A: Pours nearly pitch black color. A large, rocky tan head forms with good retention. Rings of sticky lace is left behind.
S: Prune juice, dark fruits, light roast, powdered sugar and chocolate.
T: Really sweet and boozy. To much residual sweetness for me. Acrid, bitter coffee and roast. Big on the prune juice. Dark fruits, more like fruit puree. Lots of bitter coffee lingers on forever. Not enjoying this.
M/D: A full body and moderate carbonation. Though really sticky and syrupy. Like an adhesive to the tongue. Way to sweet and to much hot alcohol for me to enjoy this.

Better than Bommen & Granten. Though that is not saying much. Again, this is just to big, boozy, and sweet for me to want to come back for more.

Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 490 ratings.