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Hel & Verdoemenis - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & VerdoemenisHel & Verdoemenis

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BA SCORE
92
outstanding

436 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 436
Reviews: 184
rAvg: 4.15
pDev: 11.08%
Wants: 41
Gots: 121 | FT: 9
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: paco1029384756 on 01-22-2009)
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JohnGalt1

Idaho

4.3/5  rDev +3.6%

inflatablechair brought this to Friday's tasting.. Bottle #17.. Sept. 26th '08. Thanks Sam.

Fucking HUUUGEEE gusher.. Eric was twisting off the cage and had maybe a few turns when the cork hit the ceiling like a cannon round.. He got it to the sink and after a coupla pours... it's still foaming like nothing I've seen before... still foaming after 5-6 pours... we walk away for a while.

Once into the glass... and the expected enormous head dies back, a pretty classy brew comes in... 2" dark tan head.. black brew.

The foam is gone.. and this is a pretty damn nice RIS.. thick and roasty.. deep chocolate and coffee... I swear I am getting some nuttiness.

Flavor is very rich with milk and bittersweet chocolate. some espresso.. and again.. some sort of nuttiness that begins midpalate and lingers to the finish.. after a while, a thick and creamy body shows despite the lingering carbonation slam... I wish I would have taken better notes.. because, this is a seriously nice brew.

Sam.. Your last bottle should be put into a bigass ziplock bag and be put immediately into the fridge .... I doubt all bottles have that carbonation... but that cork could have done damage :-)

10-12-2009 08:38:10 | More by JohnGalt1
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PEIhop

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev -3.6%

07-26-2013 00:40:01 | More by PEIhop
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glid02

Georgia

4.15/5  rDev 0%

Bottle purchased from Five Points Bottle in Athens, GA.

Pours black with a very thin layer of tan foam on top. The head recedes into a thin ring around the glass leaving almost no lacing but some decent legs.

Smells of heavily roasted malts with hints of dark chocolate and char. Also present are mild amounts of dry oak.

Tastes similar to how it smells. Strong roasted malt flavors kick things off with hints of char and tobacco. Midway through the sip the flavor profile sweetens a bit with the addition of dark chocolate. The sip dries out a bit near the end with hints of woodiness. The ending is solidly bitter.

Mouthfeel is OK. It's got a nice thickness however the carbonation is almost non-existent.

Drinkability is good. I finished my glass without a problem and could have another.

Overall I thought this was a well done beer but for the price I'd have thought the carbonation would be a bit more consistent. Still, it's worth a shot if you're willing to spend the money to find out for yourself.

05-19-2010 05:23:56 | More by glid02
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rolltide8425

Pennsylvania

4.5/5  rDev +8.4%

02-09-2013 03:04:06 | More by rolltide8425
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DrBier

Pennsylvania

4/5  rDev -3.6%

07-24-2014 02:07:21 | More by DrBier
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dirtylou

Washington

4.58/5  rDev +10.4%

12oz bottle, scooped at De Bierkoning in Amsterdam

brewed 2/18/10, bottled 4/8/10, bottle #771/960

consumed in prague hotel room

appearance: standard de molen label with loads of information and a red-waxed top, served in hotel water glass, rich dark mahogany body, creamy chocolate cap with perfect retention

smell: rich dark chocolate, loads of hops present...really nice

taste: sinfully good - waves of dark chocolate, a touch of mint, aggressively hopped - glad i got to this one in a relatively fresh state. rich roasted malts, nice bitter finish - a world class stout indeed

mouthfeel: creamy, but a little heavy of the foamy feeling

drinkability: good

06-04-2010 17:04:06 | More by dirtylou
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drummermattie02

Texas

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

11-18-2013 16:14:17 | More by drummermattie02
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wordemupg

Alberta (Canada)

4.3/5  rDev +3.6%

750ml corked and caged poured into tulip 14/2/13

A not quite black with a deep cola edge and just enough clarity to see some bubbles feeding a well sustained two finger mocha head that leaves no lace, perhaps a dirty glass?

S some plum, cherry and chocolate covered raisins, faint peat smoke, cold coffee grinds, hazelnut, hard toffee and just a little booze

T some char and slightly sour cherry with espresso in the mouth opposed to the coffee on the nose, the chocolate's darker in the mouth and I get just a little licorice I didn't smell. much like the nose she's pretty rich but the roast is even darker in the mouth and the booze is better concealed

M medium bodied and just a little foamy, very faint heat with a long chocolaty coffee finish

O what can I say? a great tasting beers easy to like, nice dark roast but not overly intense but not for the faint of heart either, nice and smooth almost to easy to drink

This one's worth looking for, I hope I can get my hands on some of the barrel aged versions in the future. I like the "enjoy within 25 years" on the label made me feel like i was in a rush to drink this beer and I was looking for an excuse to drink a big bottle of stout tonight.

02-15-2013 03:23:53 | More by wordemupg
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xnicknj

Pennsylvania

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

07-31-2013 18:27:20 | More by xnicknj
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.9/5  rDev -6%

330 mL bottle poured into a Firestone snifter. Bottle #1058, 4/8/2011.

Appearance - Black body with a nice khaki head. Nice thick collar. Swirls nicely with a thick layer of bubbles on the side of the glass.

Smell - Roasty. Bitter chocolate and strong coffee. Molasses comes through, too. A little boozy.

Taste - Even roastier than the aroma hints. Lots of bitter chocolate and coffee. It's the most dominant flavor. The finish gives just a hit of molasses and toffee. A lingering sweetness balances a strong bitter aftertaste.

Mouthfeel - Just a little bit too sweet in the finish. It balances the roast well, but it lingers a long time. Well carbonated. Maybe too much.

Overall - Nice. Lacking in some complexity, but a nice experiment in intense roasted malt flavors.

11-07-2012 02:27:07 | More by Alieniloquium
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jrallen34

Illinois

4.2/5  rDev +1.2%

I drank this from the bottle into my Orval glass.
This bottle was brewed August 2008, bottle number 56 of 282.

Thos beer is a huge gusher. The cork almost jumps off and oozes head. As your pour you get at least four fingers of super fluffy medium tan head. The retention and lacing are excellent.

The aroma is strong and supremely unique. It is very sweet giving off a unique flavor of sweet chocolate milk of ice cream. Its really awesome and I keep coming back for more. You also get a whiff of toffee and cocoa.

The taste is pretty malty as well. You get lots of cocoa, a little of the sweet milk left over, with a bitter chocolate finish. A lot is going on here. Its nice but a little something is missing that I can't put my finger on.

The feel is really nice. Tons of carbonation on the tongue and a slight warm bitter finish.

Drinkability is decent.

Overall, I really liked this. It was super unique for a RIS, something I would recommend.

03-30-2010 02:14:34 | More by jrallen34
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LiquidAmber

Washington

4.73/5  rDev +14%

Poured into a Gulden Draak tulip. Properly cellared 2 year old bottle. Pours dark brown with ruddy tones, appearing black in the glass. Thin fine light tan head dissipated quickly to a ring around the glass. Intense aroma of roasted malt, mild dark fruit and lots of chocolate. Flavor follows, rich dark roasted malt, chocolate, vanilla, lighter coffee and dark fruit notes, incredibly well integrated. The body is thick and creamy. An all round well made treat for the senses. One of the best RIS I've had and hands down the best two year old aged bottle of any stout I've experienced. I'm not getting any oxidation notes from this. This is not distributed in my state and I wish I had bought more of these for the cellar. I see that the other very high scoring review was from the same vintage as this one and also tasted after 2 years, so I'd advise aging this one for a few years for a treat. Exceptional.

07-31-2012 03:23:03 | More by LiquidAmber
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Hopheadjeffery

Illinois

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

08-01-2013 13:53:02 | More by Hopheadjeffery
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Evil_Pidde

Sweden

4.25/5  rDev +2.4%

10-08-2013 17:46:47 | More by Evil_Pidde
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DefenCorps

Oregon

4.08/5  rDev -1.7%

Shared by Mike. Thanks, man! I was surprised by how much I enjoyed this.

Black with a dark brown head that leaves nice lacing, this is an impressive stout. The nose is roasty and yeasty with cocoa and mild bread and a surprising yeasty spiciness, particularly white pepper. Bringing to mind Black Albert in some ways, this is a thick, roasty, yeasty stout. The palate opens roasty, sweet and with quite a bit of cocoa, licorice and some yeast. Cocoa liqueur is present, this is sweet though a little dry on the finish. Medium-full in body with a very high level of carbonation, this finishes yeasty and roasty. Enjoyable in small doses.

05-18-2011 03:35:45 | More by DefenCorps
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dgilks

Australia

4.28/5  rDev +3.1%

Pitch, midnight black colour with a creamy, foamy, long lasting tan head. Great lacing. Pretty much as good as a stout looks.

Chocolatey roast with distinct alcohol notes. Mild herbal hoppiness. Good.

Bitter, roasty, chocolate flavour. Mild coffee. Distinct, earthy, noble hop flavour. Very good with excellent balance.

Medium-full body with moderate carbonation. Good.

A solid beer with plenty of appropriate flavours and a delightful hoppiness which complements the beer.

03-22-2011 09:40:04 | More by dgilks
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gford217

Georgia

4.3/5  rDev +3.6%

This one pours almost completely opaque black with a one-inch creamy tan head that recedes slowly to a nice collar with some very spotty lacing.

The aroma is sweet with licorice and cocoa with some underlying toasted malts and coffee. Maybe some toasted nuts in there as well - a big nose overall.

The taste is not quite as sweet with dry cocoa up front supported by some heavily roasted malts underneath. Lots of coffee bitterness and some licorice sweetness coming back in the finish.

The mouthfeel is medium to full bodied with strong carbonation which makes it seem lighter bodied than it is.

This is definitely the best beer I've had from De Molen, a full-bodied impy stout that still maintains good drinkability.

12-16-2009 04:58:02 | More by gford217
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champ103

Texas

2.35/5  rDev -43.4%

This is an 08 bottle.

A: Pours nearly pitch black color. A large, rocky tan head forms with good retention. Rings of sticky lace is left behind.
S: Prune juice, dark fruits, light roast, powdered sugar and chocolate.
T: Really sweet and boozy. To much residual sweetness for me. Acrid, bitter coffee and roast. Big on the prune juice. Dark fruits, more like fruit puree. Lots of bitter coffee lingers on forever. Not enjoying this.
M/D: A full body and moderate carbonation. Though really sticky and syrupy. Like an adhesive to the tongue. Way to sweet and to much hot alcohol for me to enjoy this.

Better than Bommen & Granten. Though that is not saying much. Again, this is just to big, boozy, and sweet for me to want to come back for more.

12-29-2011 05:05:49 | More by champ103
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tbeckett

Ontario (Canada)

4.15/5  rDev 0%

Bottle at 't Arendsnest in Amsterdam. Bottle #790. Bottled 10 September, 2010. From notes.

A - Didn't even get the whole bottle in. Two finger, crazy creamy head. Khaki colour on the head. Totally black body. Really creamy head retention. I wrote about 4 lines about how awesome the head retention was, let's just say it was amazing, sticking to the glass everywhere.

S - My initial reaction was filled with explatives. Really inviting, chocolate, coffee, and yeast. Really grabs your nostrils.

T - Tons of chocolate, coffee, and roasted, dark malt. Dark fruit finish and slightly bitter. Everything it should be. Flavours are very intense. No alcohol to speak of.

M - Slightly bitter finish, medium carbonation. Creamy mouthfeel with a full body and chew.

O/D - Lovely stout. Tasty, looks great, smells great, tastes good. A good beer from de Molen. Proper Imperial Stout.

05-10-2011 11:02:27 | More by tbeckett
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Jwale73

Rhode Island

4.09/5  rDev -1.4%

Thanks to KingKong for the generous extra. 11.2oz bottle served in my Old Stock snifter. Pours one shade shy of black with a loose, tan-colored head that quickly dissipates into a froth of bubbles around one side of the bowl. Lacing is fairly minimal and is expressed as spots of foam that exhibit poor adherence. Nose is rich and complex - chocolate malt, prunes, licorice, molasses and vanilla. There's also a trace of oxidation present towards the back. Taste is a bit less pronounced than suggested by the nose - the vanilla drops away, as do the prunes; however, there is also a slight vinous quality as well as an earthy hops bittering at the finish. Mouthfeel is medium-light with a carbonation just shy of still, a slightly oily texture, some acidity that stimulates the sides of the cheeks and a slight burn across the tongue between quaffs. Overall, a very good RIS. Not sure if this is something I would sit on for an extended period, but a solid example of the style and worth seeking out.

04-16-2013 00:15:24 | More by Jwale73
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DmanGTR

Florida

4.64/5  rDev +11.8%

Had this several times during our tastings.

Very dark brown, nearly black. Off white head when it's carbonated, otherwise it leaves a faint trace of bubbles. Lots going on here. Huge notes of coffee grinds, dark chocolate, burnt toast, leather, earth, cremini mushrooms, figs, and prunes. Layers and layers repeat themselves as you smell and sip. Medium bodied, alcohol barely noticeable. I highly recommend this great example of a RIS.

05-04-2014 05:28:19 | More by DmanGTR
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drpimento

Wisconsin

4.7/5  rDev +13.3%

Fabulous. Extreme beer. I think meant to be almost still, which it is. No head, only a few bubbles. Color is an opaque brown tinged black. Aroma us ultra rich and chocolate malt roast coffee. Flavor is like aroma just a hint of bitterness at the end. Body is excellent despite being almost flat. All my friends sitting here trying it say "Goddamn good beer!" Only hints of alcohol in the end which is lengthy. Absolutely fabulous. Label says ageable up to 25 year. Wonder what an older version tastes like.

05-20-2010 23:51:31 | More by drpimento
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aasher

Indiana

3.35/5  rDev -19.3%

This is an 11oz bottle. It pours a nice medium bodied chocolate brown in color with only a very slight lacing. The aromas are odd. You get a lot of powdery chocolate malt with a strange funk to it. The more I think about it, the more I detect gym socks. That's a no no. Oddly enough it's not as off putting as it sounds or as it could be. Theflavors consist ofa ton of chocolate malt, roasted malt, light coffee, chocolate bar sweetness, and slight alcohol. It's solid and the favors work well together. It drinks really light in body, kind of thin and watery. It's definitely the lightest imperial stout I've had yet. It needs to be more viscous. This definitely hurts the appeal of this beer. I don't see how it could be aged for 25 years being as thin as it is. Overall this is an odd beer. The nose is questionable, the favors are solid, but the body isn't up to par for the style.

01-11-2012 05:23:12 | More by aasher
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woosterbill

Kentucky

3.3/5  rDev -20.5%

12oz bottle, #661 of a batch brewed in '09 and bottled in '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Big thanks to Dan for sharing this one.

A: After the wax is cut away the cap pops with the absolute loudest sound I've ever heard come from a non-corked beer's opening, and a slow upwelling of foam begins to overflow into a hastily-provided glass. Once actual beer starts coming out, it's visibly chunky with particulates; every pour from first to last comes complete with a host of solid matter. My particular pour has a dark-brown body playing host to a galaxy of black particulates, topped by a soapy head that quickly recedes to a spotty ring. Foul.

S: Huge, crazy mix of smoke and raw chocolate. Some hops and caramel as well. Intense, and hugely enjoyable. The chocolate alone is just stunning.

T: Spicy, strong, smoky and chocolatey. Less great than the nose, but still enjoyable in small sips.

M: The chunks carry over here, and just highlight the boozy sharpness of the flavor with a bit of gritty three-dimensionality. Laughably bad.

O: The bottle says this one can sit for 25 years, and I think at least a handful would be necessary just to get all the crap to come out of suspension. The aromas and flavors are big and enjoyable, but this is a seriously flawed beer right now. I can certainly see its potential, though, and can't wait to try the Misto version that's on-deck.

Cheers!

03-22-2011 01:51:37 | More by woosterbill
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Lare453

Florida

4/5  rDev -3.6%

02-25-2014 04:06:00 | More by Lare453
Hel & Verdoemenis from Brouwerij De Molen
92 out of 100 based on 436 ratings.