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Heaven & Hell - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
87
very good

79 Ratings
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Ratings: 79
Reviews: 52
rAvg: 3.97
pDev: 12.09%
Wants: 8
Gots: 28 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American Double / Imperial Stout |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: rvdoorn on 09-07-2009)
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Photo of enelson
4.75/5  rDev +19.6%

enelson, Apr 01, 2012
Photo of elNopalero
5/5  rDev +25.9%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Bottled 2010.

This is the color of dirt/soil, black-brown with a foamy crema topping. Aroma is earthy, reminiscent of woodsy mushrooms (a borrowed descriptor, overheard but still apropos), not button mushrooms but I’m thinking more like shiitakes. Wonderfully complex. Layers of flavors, sweet and luscious with an oily booziness that coats the mouth. Rich, thick, with a sharp bitterness. Simply amazing. Bottle says you can age this for 25 years.

elNopalero, Feb 28, 2012
Photo of kmatlack
4/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle poured into my Stone snifter. Bottled 5OCT2010 Btl# 739.

A- Wax dipped bottle, opened with a hiss, expecting a gusher, but it wasnt. A thick, black viscous liquid glugs into the glass making sounds ive never heard a beer make before. A dark brown creamy head a half inch thick sits on top a midnight black void that is this beer. The appearance would be perfect, but the head retention was not as great as id like it to be.

S- Smells of extremely intense bakers chocolate right off the bat. Following the chocolate is strong licorice, milk chocolate, coca, vanilla, coffee, booze.

T- Taste is sweet upfront, chocolate explosion, lots of coffee here too. Mid palate is kinda lacking here, there is alot of booze and coffee here but thats it. Maybe a bit of caramel there? Now the back end is funky, an unexpected metallic almost sour zing bounces around in my mouth briefly before going down and leaving a lingering coffee taste.

M- I poured this beer semi-cold and it was literally like drinking a fucking milkshake. It made me feel like i was drinking a meal, undoubtedly the thickest beer ive ever drank. As it warmed up it thinned out a bit, carbonation is on point. This is deserving of the 100% rating in this category.

O- This beer exemplifies what an imperial stout is. Thick, black, strong, and it leaves you feeling like you have accomplished something after drinking it. I wish it wasn't so fuckin expensive, but i guess you get what you pay for in this case. I have yet to be let down by De Molen. Looking forward to trying some of their other imperial stouts in the future.

kmatlack, Feb 07, 2012
Photo of stakem
4.08/5  rDev +2.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

11.2 oz bottle with red wax. Brewed '09 bottled '10, this is bottle #87/1206. Poured into a snifter, this brew appears a very dark brown with just shy of 3 fingers worth of brown head that is composed of larger than average bubbles. The cap pries off with a loud thud and I was anticipating a gusher that never happened. The cap fades back to a finger of strength where it resides for quite a long duration supported by rising bubbles. Some finger-like patterns of lacing stick to the glass. A light swirl seemingly effortlessly revives more than a finger of brown back to the surface.

The aroma of this brew gives off a hint of cocoa quite reminiscent of brownie batter. A hint of coffee and earthy notes of tobacco mingled with faint citrus that seemingly comes more from a scent of fresh coffee beans than from hops. More smells bring out a deep focus on the roast of the grain that smells lightly of char with a hint of dark fruity alcohol that lightly burns the nose when too deep of a whiff is taken. As it gets warmer, a bit of anise comes out.

The taste is roasty and bitter with a flavor of unsweetened chocolate and roasty fresh coffee. A bit of citrus hits the tongue just like the aroma led on. However, just like the nose lead on, it tastes more of a sort of fresh coffee bean type of citrus instead of from hops. The alcohol is fairly present with not only a solid warming factor but with a bit of fruited alcohol flavor minorly reminiscent of raisins or dates. Towards the back is a bit of sweetness somewhat like molasses and then back to the flavor of char, tobacco and earth.

This is a medium bodied brew with a lively amount of carbonation. Perhaps just a bit too much bubbly but it overall lightened the feel of this brew and when I felt there was just too much prickle on the tongue, it was easily swirled out of solution. This has a solid arrangement of flavor and was enjoyable to try. Even though it is 10% abv, I dont think that hindered the experience at all. In fact, the alcohol inclusion almost carried with it a cooling methol-like type of effect which was interesting. These folks at Molen have been impressing me more with each new offering I try.

stakem, Feb 02, 2012
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4.5/5  rDev +13.4%

dprophet, Jan 22, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

tclapper, Jan 11, 2012
Photo of quantumcipher
4.5/5  rDev +13.4%

quantumcipher, Jan 07, 2012
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

ygtbsm94, Dec 30, 2011
Photo of jophish17
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

jophish17, Dec 24, 2011
Photo of brez8791
3.5/5  rDev -11.8%

brez8791, Dec 22, 2011
Photo of ThreeWiseMen
4.18/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Brewed on August 26, 2010. Bottled on October 5, 2010.

Poured into a Delirium Tremens tulip.

Appearance: A deep brown, creamy head sits atop a muddy, pitch black. Head shows very nice retention, and tries to gain a foothold on the glass walls (only hangs around for a few seconds though). All in all, I love the opacity, coloration and head retention; lacing could improve, but that's about it.

Smell: Prunes, dark roast coffee, char, blueberries, and bitter dark chocolate. The heavy roast and tart fruit notes meld well, though the overall context is certainly intense. As it warms, the bitter dark chocolate softens into a chocolate creme aroma. A bit harsh early on; better as it warms; boozy all the way.

Taste: Chocolate mousse, dark fruits, roasted barley, booze, and a touch of dark roast coffee in the finish. Those tart fruits that were oh so prevalent in the nose have faded a bit in the taste; dark fruit flavors are there, but they struggle to creep past the bold, roasted malts. Still very tasty; just not as complex as anticipated.

Mouthfeel: Full and creamy with low carbonation, mild burn, and excellent mouth-coating. The alcoholic content becomes more prevalent in the aftertaste, creating a bit more heat and dryness than I'd like. Aside from that though, flawless.

Drinkability: A fascinating sipper. Complex and unique, with the look and feel of an imperial (and then some) stout.

ThreeWiseMen, Dec 20, 2011
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4.25/5  rDev +7.1%

uturn, Dec 12, 2011
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4.5/5  rDev +13.4%

BenTherHppedThat, Dec 09, 2011
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3/5  rDev -24.4%

Rochefort10nh, Nov 21, 2011
Photo of imperialking
4/5  rDev +0.8%

imperialking, Nov 15, 2011
Photo of smakawhat
4.5/5  rDev +13.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Poured from the bottle into a large snifter glass. Bottled on October 5th 2010. Bottle number 2036.

A slight gusher but not too bad from opening. Impressive head of dark brown coffee cream and chocolate. Body is classic case of dark walnut black/brown. Retention is sick but eventually calms down. Crazy lacing breakup and super foamy.

Nose is a good mix of light molasses, coffee mild roast and milk chocolate. Very nice with barleywine like heat and hint of bitterness. Real nice lots of things going on.

Taste is really delicious. Taste seems to follow the nose with one exception. Molasses lightly in the palate but then a soft mild black licorice sense. Some milky chocolate comes out a bit. Licorice angle comes out in a very rich way but never totally dominates. Thick palate but rich and velvety, without being syrupy. No boozyness sense incredibly easy drinking. Palate has a mild small carbonation and when focusing on it even gives the drink a sense of rich sweet cola taste.

Overall just a great example of what a stout can be. Great beer!

smakawhat, Oct 13, 2011
Photo of mdvatab
2.88/5  rDev -27.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 2 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Bought two 12 oz bottles from Sam's Quick Shop in Durham, NC back in June. Had been curious to try one, and was in the mood for something barrel-aged. Here goes...

Poured from 12oz bottle into Chimay chalice. (Bottled on 10/5/2010.)

Aroma: Delicious milk chocolate, dark cocoa, carmelized brown sugary sweetness. Some fruity grape juice, a faint bourbon note, and faint, floral hops.

Appearance: Gusher alert! After seeing the foam begin to come out of the bottle opening, I instinctively moved it toward the glass and began to pour. Beautiful dark tan-colored head is two fingers thick. Settles slowly to a thin, but persistent layer of bubbles. Body is black as expresso.

Flavor: An earthy, mineral note up front, followed by chocolate sweetness, a fruity combination of brandy, bourbon, and powdered cocoa. This one is definitely "booze-forward"-- fairly hot with a peppery finish. My opinion was good initially, but after each sip, I began to taste a phenolic plastic, almost burnt hair-like, note. It got to the point where I wasn't enjoying it anymore, and didn't finish the glass.

Mouthfeel: Medium-full body. Medium-high, yet creamy, carbonation. As mentioned above, finish was a bit hot.

Overall: This one was a sensory roller coaster ride, but unfortunately ended on a disappointing note. The aroma led me to believe that it was going to be a good/great one. Unfortunately, there was something that just wasn't right. The loud hiss and initial gush, and also the phenolic note, lead me to suspect that there might be an infection issue... The bottle suggests cellaring for up to 25 years. At $10 a pop (WAAAAY overpriced), I'm going to hang onto my other one to see if she somehow improves down the road. You definitely won't find me buying another one, though, and I can't recommend that you make the investment either.

mdvatab, Sep 10, 2011
Photo of lanamj
3.33/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Poured into a frosted trolls tulip. I love this glass!!!

A- This one pours pitch black with a thick,active, chocolate foamy head that seems to hang out for some time. It is deep in color but still remains to look somewhat thin.

S- Lots of roasted malts and alcohol on the nose. Some chocolate, coffee and date are faintly present. It has a nice smell, a little boozy but it has a dark and sweet aroma.

T- Lots of coffee, roasted malts and booze. It has a Belgium flavor to it even though it's an American style stout. It finishes dry and is a little hot in the throat. Some bitter chocolate resides in the middle and sweet booze at the end. Not the worse, but not the best.

M- A little to much carbonation for a stout. It has the body of a Belgium stout. Its a little thin but finishes smooth. It has a 25yr shelf life according to the label. This one was not but a year old, in saying that it open with a pop and most likely would settle down over time. I can see this one aging well. But maybe i tried it to soon.

O- With time it would be great. The smell is great but the body and booze are a little to much. I will definitely grab another and age to see results.

lanamj, Sep 09, 2011
Photo of broken22
4.33/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

So I poured this bad boy into my duvel tulip glass and had to wait a long time for the head to subside. I have never seen a beer foam up so fast in this glass. Most beers pour in even when I'm sloppy without much fuss. Crossing my fingers I didn't get a bad batch. While I wait I tell you the head is a mocha a color full of tiny micro bubbles. There is no cascade to watch. The smell is nice very chocolaty with a hint of a bourbon notes. Well the beer is not bad; or if it is it's a really good bad beer :P The flavor is light on the initial chocolate I was smelling initially. The subtle bourbon is now more of what I'm getting. The overall flavor is very well balanced and doesn't attack and take over you mouth. The finish is a nice linger of very mellow bitterness. The mouth feel is full bodied with very little carbonation.

Overall I think this is a fantastic beer. Very well crafted. I really enjoy the flavor that was crafted. The labels are cool for their simplicity. They look like old prescription apothecary labels.

broken22, Aug 21, 2011
Photo of Metalmonk
4.58/5  rDev +15.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

From the label: "This beer will be good for 25 years if kept cool and dark." But I just don't have that kind of time, so off comes the cap tonight. Brewed on August 26, 2010, bottled on October 5, 2010. If only all breweries were as up front about such trivial things, eh?

Quite a powerful "ziss!" upon prying the cap off (which was lightly waxed). It's a damn beautiful beer in the glass, blackness as deep and wide as the cosmos, and a super-tight mocha colored head made of zillions of snap-crackle-poppin' bubbles.

Aroma is mostly smoky and rich dark chocolate tones, some nice nutty coffee-like roast as well. A hint of mineral in the background, which is suppressed by a noticeable, enjoyable and not-at-all overbearing alcohol edge. [Okay, as-it-happens reportage here: this is a funny beer. I poured half into the glass, and the other half is currently in the bottle. Every 20 seconds or so a froth comes peeking over the bottle neck, pops and disappears, and repeats. This thing is alive!!!]

Taste: total liquid fudge action. Or liquid brownie. That really gooey, moist kind of deep, dark chocolate brownie. Chocolate abounds here, and brings with it tones of dark roast coffee. It's curious that the hops are pumped on the label (Sladek and Saaz) when it's really the malt that not only drives this thing, but wins the race for it. Oh, the hops are present, lending a bright edge to the heavy-handed and gooey malt center. Rich but not too rich, warming but not hot, hoppy but hops that let the malt take center stage. The taste of this beer blows my freaking mind.

I might have liked just a tad less carbonation, or nearly NO carbonation (like Bell's wonderful Expedition Stout), but the heavy body and just-right stickiness still make a nice textural match for what the taste buds are deciphering.

So, a Dutch stout modeled on the big American craft approach, using Czech hops. This is why I love adventurous brewers and the beer they make. And in this case it's a total success. It's a damn travesty this isn't rated higher here (currently has a B+ average). Maybe it's not rare enough. Or just doesn't have much hype behind it for whatever reason. But damn this is one delightful stout that leans on the hefty, dessert-y side, and does absolutely but absolutely everything right.

Metalmonk, Aug 03, 2011
Photo of Daniellobo
4.05/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Nice sturdy stout.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped, and waxed bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1100, F.G. 1033, EBC Colour 449, Hop bill, EBUs 92. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 25 yrs...). Shows brewing and bottling date (26 August 2010, 05 October 2010), and that this is bottle 1794 out of a 2077 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (10.2%) Served in a snifter.

A - Deep black pour with good frothy head, fair surface memory and some lacing.

S - Roasted nose, coffee and chocolate with a licorice boozy hint.

T - Rich and long roasted range. touches of chocolate, faint coffee again, bitter hoppy sense coating it.

M - Medium/full body, and medium carbonation with a nice bitter range and dry touch in the finish.

O - Nice sipping stout hitting all the right notes.

Notes: Minor differences aside this reminds me quite a bit to their Hel & Verdoemenis, Hell and Damnation?, and feels like a small tweak in a new batch for the US import market? Good imperial stouts in any case and would love to have a tasting side by side...

Daniellobo, Jun 24, 2011
Photo of jwinship83
3.9/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz black wax dipped capped bottle. drank out of my stone IRS snifter.

A- as soon as i pop the crown, the beer starts to gush. its a very slow gush. odd. the pour yields an opaque black body with a small head of coffee colored bubbles. the head quickly becomes no more than a crown, leaving behind very little as far as lacing goes.

S- the first thing i notice in the nose are dark roasted malts. lots of coffee follow that. lots of alcohol in the nose. some chocolate, both dark and milk.

T- the taste is dominated by roasted malts and alcohol. very potent and dark. some dark chocolate adds even more bitterness and blends well with the sweetness imparted from milk chocolate. i think i pick up on some caramel and raisins also. strong espresso and light earthy hops on the finish.

M- the body is full and viscous. strong warming from the alcohol. the carbonation is a little bit too high here.

O- an enjoyable beer, but i dont think id want to drop another $10 on any additional bottles. very much a sipper which went well on the abnormally cold and rainy june night in chicago.

jwinship83, Jun 10, 2011
Photo of Cyberkedi
4.78/5  rDev +20.4%
look: 5 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Pours a rich, night-black sable with a VERY thick and persistent chocolaty-brown head. The sample I got fizzed as if doing so would help the Cubs win the World Series - so if you get this in a bottle, open it with care! Strong, smoky aroma has tones of sweet chocolate, quality roast coffee and molasses as well as a hint of caramel. Mouth-filling smoky flavor has tones of high-quality mocha and molasses, as well has hints of caramel and licorice. It is a bit on the sweet side, but otherwise the flavor is simply superb. Texture is thick, smooth, oily and fizzy, leaving a smoky and tingly finish. A must for all Stouties!

Cyberkedi, Jun 05, 2011
Photo of Rifugium
3.73/5  rDev -6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

First had: on tap at Armsby Abbey, Worchester, MA

Poured dark brown to black, with a minimal tan head. Semi-sweet chocolate in the nose with a bit of bitterness and alcohol sweetness. Taste was of chocolate and cocoa and some dark fruits, giving way to slight alcohol / slight malty sweetness. Somewhat heavy mouthfeel with a bit of alcohol bite. Moderately strong, but drinkable.

Rifugium, May 01, 2011
Photo of jlindros
3.93/5  rDev -1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Had on tap at Armsby Abbey

Nice creamy and bubbly darker head of about 1 finger fades semi slowly, big bubbles, pitch black colored beer.

Nose has a burnt chalky charred malts, black patent malt, bit of super dark chocolate, bit of coffee, earthy bitterness from scorched malts, bit of a biscuity malt.

Taste starts with bitter earthy charred malts, burnt coffee grinds and charred malts, bit syrupy, black patent, super dark choc, hints of dark fruit like fig, bit of warming booze, touch of spices. Finishes sticky syrupy malts, fairly bitter both earthy hops and charred malts, some dark malts and roast lingering.

Mouth is heavier bodied, a bit syrupy with decent carb and light boozy warmth.

Overall decent, super rich thick and syrupy stout, lots of burnt flavors but no real minerality, nice bitterness, booze is hidden well and not too sweet.

jlindros, Apr 21, 2011
Heaven & Hell from Brouwerij De Molen
87 out of 100 based on 79 ratings.