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Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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Reviews: 66
Hads: 184
rAvg: 3.85
pDev: 12.99%
Wants: 5
Gots: 19 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009

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Photo of wl0307
4.08/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Purchased at the BSF bar, GBBF 2009; this bottle-conditioned ale comes in a 330ml slim brown bottle, BB 2014, served faintly chilled in Tripel Karmeliet's long-stemmed tulip-shaped goblet. NOTE: much information about this beer is printed on the front label - Brewed on 29 April 2009, Bottled on 2 June 2009; EBC 22.2, EBU 42.6; Bitter-ing hops Galena + as late-hops - Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo + Dry-hopping with Cascade; this bottle is No. 51 from the batch of 1344 bottles only. The label actually looks like some freshly printed "laboratory briefing"...?!

A: a huge and foamy light beige froth sits on top of a moderately carbonated, slightly murky dark amber hue. Phenomenal.
S: the smell is more like a well-hopped Tripel with a bit more malt sweetness upfront; as indicated by the front label, the hop composition is indeed complex and hard to "dissect" for analysis, featuring Cascade et al. US hops' piney, apricot-ish, grapefruity & lychee-ish aroma, while Belgian/Dutch exotic yeasts also render a rich flower-estery & spicy (a touch of vanilla and coriander-seeds) aura in the background. In the middle is a more settled layer of overripe fruits (pears, bananas, and pineapples [smoothie like!]) and mixed, toffee-ish+sugary malts. Very pleasant and tremendously hoppy, but the malt syrup is equally rich to provide a kind of gravity.
T: the effervescent mouthful of spicy-bitter & powdery yeastiness and piney hops is refreshing and kicking my taste-buds hard, waking them up to a dry, citrus-peel-ish spicy-bitter aftertaste that ensues closely, as does a vanilla-ish herbal note... Also in the aftertaste, the bready+caramely malts develop by stealth, but way less significant on a balance already dominated by lingering lychee-shell-ish aroma and chewy, spicy, medium+ level of bitterness from both hops and yeast sediments. Surprisingly, at merely 6.2%abv., this ale should leave an interestingly warmer-than-average swallow as it goes down the throat!
M&D: refreshing and semi-lively carbonated with very fine fizz, giving an elevating effect on the flavour actually. The complex hop profile is all mixed up in terms of flavour, and then engulfed by the rich yeastiness that I couldn't have avoided even if a more gentle pour was applied, as the yeast sediments are by no means settled in the bottle - more in line with a Belgian/Dutch bottled ale. The combined effect makes a heavily hopped and yet immensely yeasty semi-IPA style of ale. (2,475 characters)

Photo of DoubleJ
4.07/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

A fresh bottle served at 't Proeflokaal in Delft and served in its own glass. On to the beer:

Looking toasted orange in color and topped with a small head from the pour. Thinn strings of lace ring around the glass as the beergoes down. A pleasant hoppy aroma shows that De Molen not only did their homework, but excecuted the brewing process well. Ripe grapefruit aromas escape and are paired with mango, burnt sugar, and a tease of tea.

Bringing the congas would be one of the few ways to make this beer more tropical. Already, the beer is full of a tropcial fruitiness, highlighted by sweet grapefruit and pineapple. The malt is not to be overshadowed, carrying with it toasted caramel and burnt sugar. The medium body is just right, but with very low carbonation, this already good Dutch IPA may have missed a chance to jump to an even higher level. (855 characters)

Photo of baggio
4.07/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle@Home

A: Golden copper with a large, white, head and lots of lacing.

S: Berries, Citric notes, Flowers, Caramel.

T: Grass, Citric notes, Berries (raspberry mainly), Hint of butterscotch and pine.

M: Qute hoppy but the hops used works nicely together with the malty caramel backbone. Carbonation is medium and the liquid feels quite soft.

A very drinkable IPA. Nice! (381 characters)

Photo of dln646
4.05/5  rDev +5.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

'tis time review a beer I've savored three times since this summer, and whenever I do, I'm ending up taking full-sized sips of it. This time around it pours hazy amber with a more intense golden core. The white foam is massive and leaves behind some substantial gorgeous lacing.

First thing that hits is the utmost interlaced and complex hop aroma. Vuur & Vlam is hopped with five different hops which donates to a vast fruit aroma spectrum of dried fruits, citrus, fruit bread, marmalade, apricots, tropical fruit and some distant weed. It's not exaggeratedly aromatic, rather nuanced and beyond compare appealing.

It is dry and there's a light malt body with a vivid freshness. A soft carbonation quiver against my tongue as the complex hop character of Fire & Flames spices up my mid-palate. The finish has a satisfying length and most hop characteristics come to life here in grape, grass, apricot marmalade and peach. To me, an almost perfect level of bitterness (around medium+) contributes to a high drink-ability.

Vuur & Vlam, in my opinion, is best drunk on bottle, while still being fresh. Still it is out of harm's way to say that a half year on bottle won't obliterate this beer. Over these last months I've come to develop a firm union to this IPA. The hopping is sophisticated, complex and nuanced. This is wholly up my alley - not explosively fruity and gummy. Vuur & Vlam is a role-model, and a force to be reckoned with. http://quaffable.org/?p=401 (1,468 characters)

Photo of chinchill
4.04/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

33cl bottle about 2 weeks past best by range.

Pours hazy copper with a durable, creamy tan head. The glass gets nicely coated with tipping. Some sediment remained stuck to the bottom of the bottle.

Aroma: more sweet malts, toffee, and Belgian yeast than hops.

Flavor: Like the aroma. Not really an IPA or even a Pale Ale, this is more of a Belgian Brown with a little extra hopping. Dark fruit notes and toffee linger on in the aftertaste.

Feel: medium body; medium, lively but semi-soft carbonation.

O: a very nice Belgian/Dutch brown ale. (553 characters)

Photo of Aethien
4.04/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Looks: Orange colour and a small off white head.
Smell: Pineapple and other tropical fruits are mixed with yeast, bread dough and some piney smells.
Taste & Mouthful: Aggressive carbonation accompanies the sweet tropical fruits and caramel taste alongside citric hops and a nice bitterness, the pine comes back in the aftertaste. All the flavours blend in very nicely together.

Overall: I think this is my favourite IPA by De Molen, a bit stronger than their Amerikaans and a nicely bitter and refreshing IPA. If not for the fairly high cost (Even in The Netherlands) I'd be happy to drink a couple of these on an evening. (623 characters)

Photo of mick303
4.02/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle with freshness date. Poured into a wine glass. Produced a rather impressive crowning white head with amazing retention, great lacing. Colour is a honey brown. Stunning.

Smell has a bitting citrus fruitiness. Lots of grapefruit peel, some astringent sourness. Some biscuity malt. Pretty intense citrus, close to something like grapefruit pledge, except with a nice honey malt undertone.Very fragrant and interesting.

Taste follows the nose, earthy, leather, mouth-pluckering grapefruit and slight pine needles. Foam is mildly herbal hop bitterness. A light oiliness and honey holds it together, more perceptible yeast. Bitterness probably could use more malt to back it up, a fair bit of sour citrus is a dominent. More balanced to the end, finishes dry and oily hopped.

Mouthfeel is moderate, nice and refreshing, though slightly watery, carbonation is moderate. Quite frothy, a bit of alcohol spice on the end.

Probably the most impressive head and retention I've come across on an IPA. This is certainly an interesting and different IPA. I enjoyed it, a bit dominated by the hops, but it takes a slightly different approach from most American brews, more yeasty I find. De Molen has produced another quality offering, worth trying. (1,252 characters)

Photo of biboergosum
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A kick-ass find on draft at Beer Revolution in Cowtown - not a bad offering to christen (not an Easter reference) my 2000th review!

This beer appears a hazy golden medium amber hue, with one finger of tight foamy off-white head, which takes its sweet time melting away, eventually leaving a sparsely broken wall of painted lace around the glass.

It smells of grapefruit rind, mild bready caramel malt, and a soft pine resin essence. The taste is bitter blended citrus hops, caramel/vanilla malt, and some rank piney acerbic essences. More or less West Coast-ish, with a sight Mikkeller-esque Euro offset.

The bubbles are consistent, but none-too distracting, the body an ambivalent medium weight, and smooth without further outward intrusion. It finishes mostly dry, the hops turning kind of vegetal, retaining little of the citrus and pine that originally made me lust after this.

Not a bad IPA, but sort of middling, given the oomph generally required by the best in breed. Still glad I got a small pint, instead of a fifteen dollar bomber off the bottle-shop shelf. (1,072 characters)

Photo of avalon07
4/5  rDev +3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a pint glass. Had a brownish-orange color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, creamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A heavy hops presence in the aroma, with some malt as well.

T: Tasted of hops (a fair amount), some citrus (a little grapefruit), malt, and an almost bready quality. This tasted more like an English IPA than an American, but it was still pretty tasty.

M: A good amount of carbonation with a smooth finish. Medium-bodied.

O: I'm not going to say this is my favorite IPA ever, but it is solid and well made. (565 characters)

Photo of socon67
3.96/5  rDev +2.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A - Pours orange with a thick creamy foam. There is an awesome amoutn of lacing ont he glass. Looks like some sediment swirling in the glass. Just a very inviting looking brew.

S - Scents of simcoe hops with notes of fresh apricot and citrus.

T - The fruity sweetness int he intial taste gives to a hoppy medley and ends with an astrigent bitterness. The finish is a little harsh, but overall a nice taste.

M - A strong IPA with a rugged finish. If you are okay with pungent bitterness this will drink well.

O - A great find amd glad to try this one. Recommended for those who like their IPA's bold. (604 characters)

Photo of akorsak
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A horizontal tasting of the same recipe as interpreted by three different brewers. Take 1: De Molen. At the Farmers' Cabinet. Janlud there too.

A: The IPA is bright, a coppery orange color. A moderate-sized band of head comes along, white a snow.

S: The nose is grassy, possibly the hoppiest of the three. Citrus follows the grass, as does balancing caramel.

T: Pungently hoppy, the ale brings plenty of citrus with resiny pine adding an oily follow-up. Caramel malts, bready, are an adequate counterbalance to the hops. Semi-tropical, the IPA finishes with a grassy bluster. Yeast lends a sweeter presence that also aids in balancing the bitterness.

M: The hoppiest of the three, De Molen doesn't go easy on the bite. That being said, it's not a tastebud-scorcher. A strong take on an American IPA. (803 characters)

Photo of spicelab
3.95/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle.

Opaque murky brown. Not an attractive colour in the classical sense. Massive head slowly recedes leaving chunky turbulent looking foam kind of like what you see near river rapids. Gob loads of sediment just adds to the poohey charm. Cool.

Smells of caramelised sugars, fairy floss and sweet citrus, most notably mandarin.

Sweetness again dominates the taste. Lemon sherbet, pineapple and ripe melons. All shit I love, but the flavours seem to get confused or lost in a homogeneous, almost muddy flavour after a while.

High carbonation partially responsible for a slightly harsh and sizzly bitterness, which is a shame because otherwise I could guzzle a tonne of these.

Overall quite an addictive drop for me that I'd love to try fresh (753 characters)

Photo of soulgrowl
3.93/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Hazy golden sunflower yellow, capped with a sudsy white foam. This looks like a Hefeweizen but smells like an APA, pleasantly hoppy, very floral and citric but not too assertive. Big on lemon and geranium, with mango, passion fruit, and grapefruit as well. Malts and yeast present as but an estery spectre of white wine.

The beer delivers much more malt when you taste it, but this is still a hoppy beer, from beginning to end. Toasted biscuits slathered with orange marmalade, pine resin, grapefruit, and pineapple, with a chewy, frothy feel. Juicy but dry and just a little bit like sucking on raw hop cones. Just a little. Nice beer – I'd happily drink this any day of the week, any week of the year. (706 characters)

Photo of Metalmonk
3.91/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Great look, with a blinding white head that starts big and foamy and crackles very audibly to a thinner layer. The burnt-orange/rust color is just a shade soupier than your usual IPA. Overall this thing looks top-notch.

Smells American-ish, just one or two tiny twists away from something you could imagine Sierra Nevada brewing. And that twist could be some kind of hop variety that's not playing well with the others, or possibly the way these hops are combined in the recipe: Galena, Chinnok, Cascade (Sierra Nevada's go-to), Simcoe and Amarillo. Gives off a kind of nutty vibe, and it's quite the herbal smell, as well, reminding of various Asian spice mixes you cook Thai or Vietnamese cuisine with. A bit toasty, with a vibe of young/unripe oranges and tangerines. Certainly interesting, although slightly weird.

Same interesting hoppy profile in the taste as in the aroma. Something jutting out with nut-husk coarseness and a big, intense herbal layer. Cascade hops definitely make their presence known. Overall this is a beer with a big, aggressive flavor. On the drier side too, with a pronounced herbal bitterness in the finish that fades fairly quickly.

Clearly a European beer that's highly inspired by American IPAs, but this shouldn't be held up to the greats of the U.S. west coast. Rather, it should be approached as a twist on that whole deal. Pretty good stuff, but I'm still waiting to try a De Molen beer that's as good as Heaven & Hell. They totally nailed it there. (1,490 characters)

Photo of Maakun
3.91/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle in Orval chalice. Pours a nice light amber with small head that leaves some big bubbles floating on top.

Smell: very light and fresh, citrus, hops and a very light yeast.

Taste: nice grapefruity IPA taste, good medium fruity bitterness are balanced with light roasted malts. Quite dry. Latr some more spices and other citrus fruits. Aftertase is mostly bitter.

Mouth: again quite light and fresh.

Overall this is a nice IPA style beer. I like fresh and drinkbable beers, so this fits me fine, though it tends slightly to the light and delicate side. (563 characters)

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.9/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Pours pale amber with a large head.
Massive lychee hit in the aroma. Pretty much dominates. Graduall fades to let some peach and papaya through along with some spicy phenols and sweet, biscuity malt.
Biscuity and bready malt first up as flavours with a bold grapefruit and pine hop hit after. Some booze and Belgian phenols following, tripel-style.
Too much carbonation. (370 characters)

Photo of oberon
3.89/5  rDev +1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle on 21 December 2010.Poured overflowing into a nonic a deeply hazed muddy orange,the head even at a gentle pour went flowing over the glass wich was annoying.The aromas are great with big Simcoe and Amarillo sharp hops being the main component,a sweet caramel base is there as well.The mouthfeel is a little light for my taste but it doesnt take to much away from a nice hop profile on the palate,citric and herbal hops overtop of a sweet biscuit dough base.Its a really good ipa,it could be great with a few tweaks. (522 characters)

Photo of muttyd
3.75/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured gently into a tulip glass yield a huge soapy/rocky off white head. As the head settles, it leaves suds all over the glass. Rather murky brew with some hints of sediment swirling around in the glass.

Despite having been bottled almost 7 months ago, this beer has a pretty impressive hoppy aroma; some pine, herbal tea, and citrus fruits. Sweet bready malts & slight alcohol notes follow the aromatic mix of hops. The flavor has a more piney/resiny hop character with a strong toffee/caramel malt backbone. Bitter grapefruit rind and spicy yeast character in the finish. Surprised that the alcohol (being only 6.2%) gives the warming feeling it does going down. Well carbonated and prickly on the tongue, this beer leaves a sticky/oily coating on your palate.

Being the first beer I have ever tried from De Molen, I am rather impressed. I will seek out this (and their other) beer in the future. (902 characters)

Photo of aleigator
3.74/5  rDev -2.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Orange-yellow color, filtered, decent dense head.

Aroma is citrus, grass, yeast. Very hoppy, bitter ale.

Lime, orange, kiwi, more fruits than expected, with a refreshing carbonation. Soon, hoppy bitterness kicks in, but grainy yeast helps to keep the balance at bay, lime adds cpmplexity. Mouthfeel is dry, with a long bitter aftertaste. Very hop defined, still pleasant on the palate, nice. Carbonation adds metallic hints to the hops, making the bitterness even more present. (481 characters)

Photo of Daniellobo
3.71/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

lFair IPA, settled on the hops, and yet with a pleasing bitter sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1058, F.G. 1012, EBC Colour 22.2 Hop bill, EBUs 42.6. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 5 yrs.). Shows brewing and bottling date (11 March 2010, 12 April 2010), and that this is bottle 320 out of a1210 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (6.2%). Served in a tulip glass.

A - Hazy deep amber pour. Towering head with problems to settle down... Quite a beauty.

S - Aroma is soft, faded at this point I guess... But still pleasant with a light hoppy touch, light grapefruit with a sweet malt touch.

T - Bitter sense, not so much a full range but a good bitter touch, touch of faint resin and citrus under the bitter coating, but again, not much in the way of complexity or range of hops at this point. Pleasing malty touch in the back, dash of caramel.

M - Medium body with medium to medium/low carbonation, good tingle in the tongue flowing with the final bitter finish.

D - Aged IPA by design... It still drinks pretty well with a pleasing feel.

Notes: Certainly not by far a remarkable De Molen brew, and sure enough despite the rage, mine included, for fresh and rich hops, they can also (and were supposed) to preserve a brew well, and this still is a good drinker albeit shortly it will hit the one year mark. I'd love to put my hands on a fresh one though... Thanks Toño for another De Molen treat. (1,561 characters)

Photo of arturorg
3.7/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served into a Flying Dog pint glass

A: Hazy brownish with a 1 inch white frothy head with no visible carbonation. Small lace

S: Malt, fruity (Passion fruit I think from the amarillo hop), bitter

T: sweet at first, puckering, not very bitter. Thin bodied. Feel a little bit of carbonation.

Good but could be better for De Molen standards, top notch brewery... (362 characters)

Photo of StJamesGate
3.7/5  rDev -3.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy amber-tan with stiff piles of eggshell foam. Nose is faint caramel, bruised peach and orange rind. Toffee apple malts with vague caraway/vanilla bean yeast spice then pine resin and fresh apricot hops. Bitter finish. Soft, round, medium, some heat, cloys a bit.

According to the label:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 IBUs

That label info should have been a clue: why go crazy with the hop bill, only to give an APA-level of bitterness?
And though it says this can age for up to 5 years, with a June 29th bottle date, at 4 months it already seems to have lost some hop brightness. Hop complexity does deepen as it warms; serve this at cellar temp.

Burns too much to be an APA, not hoppy enough to be an IPA. Swampy hops, weak malts, and then that yeast... Belgian IPA? Not sure what this is trying to be.

2nd de Molen beer, and haven't been blown away yet. (939 characters)

Photo of John_M
3.63/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours an amber orange color with good head retention and lacing. The is fairly attractive, showing orange citrus and light sweet malt. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this beer. Although there some sweet orange, it's countered fairly well by the hoppy bitterness in the finish. While not as hoppy/bitter as I typically like to see in my IPA's, it's not bad. Mouthfeel is meidum bodied, with a somewhat thin, lightly bitter finish. Drinkability is pretty good in this IPA. The alcohol is nicely integrated into the flavor profile, and there's nothing heavy or tiring.

Shrug. While nothing extraordinairy, I thought this was a fairly pleasant effort from the folks at De Molen. (734 characters)

Photo of Kegatron
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cl bottle into a tulip glass. This looks to be from the most recent bottling.

Pours a coppery burnt orange, with several fingers of eggshell-white head. This retains with a foamy ½ finger, leaving back a thick frothy cascade of that settles into some heavy swathes of lace. Those Simcoe hops jump right out here in the nose, with a ripe dankness that is punctuated by notes of spice and pine. Sweetness from the malt seems to get lost along the back a bit, as that herbal character really pushes to the forefront here.

The taste has more of an earthy citric bitterness to it (mostly grapefruit flavors), which is amplified by sharper notes of resins and spice. Unlike the nose, there is not as much sweetness coming out from the fruit, with this having to rely more on the malts for balance. Notes of lightly burnt toast hang in the finish, along with a dry and warm spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a moderate prickliness on the tongue before getting more creamy and slick on the edges. There is a smidge of warmth present in the body but no actual alcohol flavors are detected here.

This was a decent and drinkable enough IPA attempt from De Molen, which while remaining overall balanced and hiding its alcohol well, failed to really differentiate itself from the myriad of other attempts out there right now. Maybe getting to this when it was slightly fresher would have helped. (1,406 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A somewhat light shade of amber with an off-white head. Floral and grassy hops dominate. There is a decent maltiness to the nose, mostly bready. Just a hint of fruit (citrus) in there, maybe some herbal and pine aromas. The flavor is fairly bready, but a decent enough hop flavor. Lots of floral notes with some pine and grass. A strange white grape flavor is also present. Decent, but not great. (396 characters)

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Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
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