Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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86
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154 Ratings
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Ratings: 154
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 13.87%
Wants: 6
Gots: 14 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009)
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3.5/5  rDev -8.4%

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Photo of Hultkrantz
3.51/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On the nose sweet, can-conserved cherries - plums a safer reference. (Edit 2nd: Bubblegum)
A silky body, honey, and a bitter aftertaste. A hint of ashes. The particular kind of bitterness in this beer was not to my liking.

Overall rather enjoyable. More amber ale than IPA, perhaps. I probably won't be buying this again though.

Photo of BlazerT
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Teku glass.

A: Amber, burnt orange with big, white head, medium lasting and medium lacing.

S: Light and refreshing aroma. Noticable floral, grassy, citrus (grapefruit) and piney hops with low aroma of tropical fruits in the background. In the end quite distinctive booz aroma.

T: Refreshing taste. Medium-strong, zesty bitterness. Quite noticable citrus hops (grapefruit peel taste) and floral notes, in the end you can taste also some piney character. Low to medium sweet malts taste (bready). Aftertaste is little sweet with characteristic taste of pale malts, which try to balance this.

M: Medium-light body. Semi-dry, but dry, clean and solid bitter finish. Thin texture. Soft carbonation. No alcohol warmth.

O: Drinkable, solid and refreshing AIPA. Nothing good nor bad can suprise you here. Just solid AIPA, but it should be packed more with tropical and citrus taste and aroma.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy light orangey color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma of citrus and bitter hops is dominant with light traces of cat pee. Taste is also dominated by citrus notes with a bitter finish and nice floral notes with some subtle traces of cat pee. Body is full with great carbonation. Well brewed though more floral notes would have been even better.

Photo of barczar
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden color with a quarter inch white head that dissipates into a film of foam.

Aroma is comprised of confectioners sugar, grainy malt, and floral hops. There's a bit of dankness and a hint of citrus present. Grapefruit, citrus zest, and alcohol surface as it warms.

The flavor is fairly subtle, with bitter, catty hops overwhelming the light citrus notes. Tastes a bit flat initially, lacking in malt breadth. Not quite as much flavoring hops as expected. Tangerine and coriander add complexity. Lime zest becomes evident.

Body is moderate, with moderate to low carbonation, which adds to the flabbiness of the beer.

Somewhat disappointing from a flavor standpoint. Lacking malt and hop flavor for the style.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.54/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Pour is hazy pale orange with a rather tall and creamy off-white head. After slow dissipation the lacings appear, rich.

S: Tropical fruits galore! Rich American hops, bitter and floral; grapefruits, pineapples, ripe red oranges, peaches and lemon sezt. Caramell malts, semi-sweet, in the back but not weak in smell.

T: Follows the smell, but perhaps a bit milder. Think the smell watered.

M: Aftertaste is bitter and LONG. The body is rather thin while carbonation is rich.

O: It started of right, but the thin body ruins both feel and taste.

Photo of Cyberkedi
3.55/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Aroma has a malty core, a strong yeasty overtone, and hints of grass and fruit. It pours a slightly orangy amber with a decent, fluffy white head. Flavor is definitely that of an IPA - hoppy with citrus and yeasty undertones and some bitterness. Smooth texture is firm-bodied and quite fizzy, leaving a decidedly hoppy and citrus finish. Overall, a decent IPA, if not an outstanding one, and worth taking home.

Photo of Kegatron
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cl bottle into a tulip glass. This looks to be from the most recent bottling.

Pours a coppery burnt orange, with several fingers of eggshell-white head. This retains with a foamy ½ finger, leaving back a thick frothy cascade of that settles into some heavy swathes of lace. Those Simcoe hops jump right out here in the nose, with a ripe dankness that is punctuated by notes of spice and pine. Sweetness from the malt seems to get lost along the back a bit, as that herbal character really pushes to the forefront here.

The taste has more of an earthy citric bitterness to it (mostly grapefruit flavors), which is amplified by sharper notes of resins and spice. Unlike the nose, there is not as much sweetness coming out from the fruit, with this having to rely more on the malts for balance. Notes of lightly burnt toast hang in the finish, along with a dry and warm spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a moderate prickliness on the tongue before getting more creamy and slick on the edges. There is a smidge of warmth present in the body but no actual alcohol flavors are detected here.

This was a decent and drinkable enough IPA attempt from De Molen, which while remaining overall balanced and hiding its alcohol well, failed to really differentiate itself from the myriad of other attempts out there right now. Maybe getting to this when it was slightly fresher would have helped.

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A somewhat light shade of amber with an off-white head. Floral and grassy hops dominate. There is a decent maltiness to the nose, mostly bready. Just a hint of fruit (citrus) in there, maybe some herbal and pine aromas. The flavor is fairly bready, but a decent enough hop flavor. Lots of floral notes with some pine and grass. A strange white grape flavor is also present. Decent, but not great.

Photo of John_M
3.63/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours an amber orange color with good head retention and lacing. The is fairly attractive, showing orange citrus and light sweet malt. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this beer. Although there some sweet orange, it's countered fairly well by the hoppy bitterness in the finish. While not as hoppy/bitter as I typically like to see in my IPA's, it's not bad. Mouthfeel is meidum bodied, with a somewhat thin, lightly bitter finish. Drinkability is pretty good in this IPA. The alcohol is nicely integrated into the flavor profile, and there's nothing heavy or tiring.

Shrug. While nothing extraordinairy, I thought this was a fairly pleasant effort from the folks at De Molen.

Photo of arturorg
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served into a Flying Dog pint glass

A: Hazy brownish with a 1 inch white frothy head with no visible carbonation. Small lace

S: Malt, fruity (Passion fruit I think from the amarillo hop), bitter

T: sweet at first, puckering, not very bitter. Thin bodied. Feel a little bit of carbonation.

Good but could be better for De Molen standards, top notch brewery...

Photo of StJamesGate
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy amber-tan with stiff piles of eggshell foam. Nose is faint caramel, bruised peach and orange rind. Toffee apple malts with vague caraway/vanilla bean yeast spice then pine resin and fresh apricot hops. Bitter finish. Soft, round, medium, some heat, cloys a bit.

According to the label:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 IBUs

That label info should have been a clue: why go crazy with the hop bill, only to give an APA-level of bitterness?
And though it says this can age for up to 5 years, with a June 29th bottle date, at 4 months it already seems to have lost some hop brightness. Hop complexity does deepen as it warms; serve this at cellar temp.

Burns too much to be an APA, not hoppy enough to be an IPA. Swampy hops, weak malts, and then that yeast... Belgian IPA? Not sure what this is trying to be.

2nd de Molen beer, and haven't been blown away yet.

Photo of dcmchew
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%

Photo of Daniellobo
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

lFair IPA, settled on the hops, and yet with a pleasing bitter sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1058, F.G. 1012, EBC Colour 22.2 Hop bill, EBUs 42.6. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 5 yrs.). Shows brewing and bottling date (11 March 2010, 12 April 2010), and that this is bottle 320 out of a1210 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (6.2%). Served in a tulip glass.

A - Hazy deep amber pour. Towering head with problems to settle down... Quite a beauty.

S - Aroma is soft, faded at this point I guess... But still pleasant with a light hoppy touch, light grapefruit with a sweet malt touch.

T - Bitter sense, not so much a full range but a good bitter touch, touch of faint resin and citrus under the bitter coating, but again, not much in the way of complexity or range of hops at this point. Pleasing malty touch in the back, dash of caramel.

M - Medium body with medium to medium/low carbonation, good tingle in the tongue flowing with the final bitter finish.

D - Aged IPA by design... It still drinks pretty well with a pleasing feel.

Notes: Certainly not by far a remarkable De Molen brew, and sure enough despite the rage, mine included, for fresh and rich hops, they can also (and were supposed) to preserve a brew well, and this still is a good drinker albeit shortly it will hit the one year mark. I'd love to put my hands on a fresh one though... Thanks Toño for another De Molen treat.

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 154 ratings.