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Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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86
very good

139 Ratings
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Ratings: 139
Reviews: 62
rAvg: 3.84
pDev: 13.54%
Wants: 5
Gots: 6 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009)
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John_M

Oregon

3.63/5  rDev -5.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours an amber orange color with good head retention and lacing. The is fairly attractive, showing orange citrus and light sweet malt. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this beer. Although there some sweet orange, it's countered fairly well by the hoppy bitterness in the finish. While not as hoppy/bitter as I typically like to see in my IPA's, it's not bad. Mouthfeel is meidum bodied, with a somewhat thin, lightly bitter finish. Drinkability is pretty good in this IPA. The alcohol is nicely integrated into the flavor profile, and there's nothing heavy or tiring.

Shrug. While nothing extraordinairy, I thought this was a fairly pleasant effort from the folks at De Molen.

Serving type: on-tap

03-27-2011 19:44:15 | More by John_M
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.35/5  rDev -12.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled in late 2009, good through fall 2014.
Bottle from Fred. Darkish golden with enormous white fluffly head, well carbonated. Very mild hop aroma. Not getting that much hop bitterness in most sips, I am getting more notes of slight sourness.Thnk it was a long boat trip.

Serving type: bottle

02-07-2011 00:46:22 | More by Sammy
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Daniellobo

District of Columbia

3.7/5  rDev -3.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

lFair IPA, settled on the hops, and yet with a pleasing bitter sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1058, F.G. 1012, EBC Colour 22.2 Hop bill, EBUs 42.6. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 5 yrs.). Shows brewing and bottling date (11 March 2010, 12 April 2010), and that this is bottle 320 out of a1210 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (6.2%). Served in a tulip glass.

A - Hazy deep amber pour. Towering head with problems to settle down... Quite a beauty.

S - Aroma is soft, faded at this point I guess... But still pleasant with a light hoppy touch, light grapefruit with a sweet malt touch.

T - Bitter sense, not so much a full range but a good bitter touch, touch of faint resin and citrus under the bitter coating, but again, not much in the way of complexity or range of hops at this point. Pleasing malty touch in the back, dash of caramel.

M - Medium body with medium to medium/low carbonation, good tingle in the tongue flowing with the final bitter finish.

D - Aged IPA by design... It still drinks pretty well with a pleasing feel.

Notes: Certainly not by far a remarkable De Molen brew, and sure enough despite the rage, mine included, for fresh and rich hops, they can also (and were supposed) to preserve a brew well, and this still is a good drinker albeit shortly it will hit the one year mark. I'd love to put my hands on a fresh one though... Thanks Toño for another De Molen treat.

Serving type: bottle

01-24-2011 01:27:59 | More by Daniellobo
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oakbluff

Manitoba (Canada)

3/5  rDev -21.9%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2 ounce bottle from glouglouburp. Pours a muddy/hazy wheat tangerine with a thick and creamy head and soapy lacing. Nose- iced tea and over ripe tropical fruit. Taste- zippy hop bite with a dish soap overtone, and sweet caramel malts and then astringent bitterness. Seems more like a strong pale ale then ipa with the malt bill and level of hopping, although not all that drinkable compared to a good APA. Solid level of carbonation and medium mouthfeel.

Serving type: bottle

01-13-2011 02:38:45 | More by oakbluff
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Phyl21ca

Quebec (Canada)

3.53/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy light orangey color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma of citrus and bitter hops is dominant with light traces of cat pee. Taste is also dominated by citrus notes with a bitter finish and nice floral notes with some subtle traces of cat pee. Body is full with great carbonation. Well brewed though more floral notes would have been even better.

Serving type: bottle

01-12-2011 19:05:40 | More by Phyl21ca
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DeanMoriarty

California

4.2/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up three 750ml bottles (corked and caged) from De Bier Koning in Amsterdam, by recommendation from the shop keep after asking for a good American style IPA, and poured it into a stemmed tulip glass.

On the Bottle:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 EBUs

A: Pours a hazy and unfiltered blond/brownish hue with a thick creamy head, leaving massive amounts of lacing in its tracks. Very chunky sediment in all three 750's I purchased - a bit too much for my liking which is why I gave it a 3.5 in appearance.

S: Big piney hops, citrus notes, unique yeast smell, sweet and sugary with toasted malts in the mix as well.

T: Big cascade blast up front, citrus bight, very buttery and nutty, roasted malts, sweet candy sugar flavors and for some reason there's a slight Oud Bruin flavor in there that I thought might just be me, but when I shared one with my brother this past Thanksgiving, he tasted the same flavor - it's very faint but adds a nice dimension to the overall flavor.

M: Medium bodied, sticky and creamy with a good amount of carbonation.

D: Very drinkable and tasty, but man those chunks floating towards the bottom of my glass geek me out. I'd like to see this cleaned up a bit, but otherwise great take on a style that is often misinterpreted overseas.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2010 19:49:28 | More by DeanMoriarty
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baggio

Sweden

4.08/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle@Home

A: Golden copper with a large, white, head and lots of lacing.

S: Berries, Citric notes, Flowers, Caramel.

T: Grass, Citric notes, Berries (raspberry mainly), Hint of butterscotch and pine.

M: Qute hoppy but the hops used works nicely together with the malty caramel backbone. Carbonation is medium and the liquid feels quite soft.

A very drinkable IPA. Nice!

Serving type: bottle

11-27-2010 22:07:13 | More by baggio
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StJamesGate

New York

3.68/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy amber-tan with stiff piles of eggshell foam. Nose is faint caramel, bruised peach and orange rind. Toffee apple malts with vague caraway/vanilla bean yeast spice then pine resin and fresh apricot hops. Bitter finish. Soft, round, medium, some heat, cloys a bit.

According to the label:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 IBUs

That label info should have been a clue: why go crazy with the hop bill, only to give an APA-level of bitterness?
And though it says this can age for up to 5 years, with a June 29th bottle date, at 4 months it already seems to have lost some hop brightness. Hop complexity does deepen as it warms; serve this at cellar temp.

Burns too much to be an APA, not hoppy enough to be an IPA. Swampy hops, weak malts, and then that yeast... Belgian IPA? Not sure what this is trying to be.

2nd de Molen beer, and haven't been blown away yet.

Serving type: bottle

10-31-2010 23:48:20 | More by StJamesGate
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arturorg

Spain

3.68/5  rDev -4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served into a Flying Dog pint glass

A: Hazy brownish with a 1 inch white frothy head with no visible carbonation. Small lace

S: Malt, fruity (Passion fruit I think from the amarillo hop), bitter

T: sweet at first, puckering, not very bitter. Thin bodied. Feel a little bit of carbonation.

Good but could be better for De Molen standards, top notch brewery...

Serving type: bottle

10-11-2010 13:32:45 | More by arturorg
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Yoonisaykul

Quebec (Canada)

4.1/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Couldn't choose between this and Amarillo. Asked staff at Le Cheval Blanc and was suggested this one. Lots of info on the bottle. I wish more brewers did this.

33cl bottle label says: Bottle 0258. Brewed on Nov 6th, Bottled on Dec 8 2009. Only 712 bottles made. Lucky me.

A- Very hazy dirty peach topped by a mass of tightly knit, dirty white foam. Super head retention. It almost looks still. Careful while pouring, you might end up with a glass full of head.

S- Smells very good right from the bottle. Like a lychee gelly snack. Poured into De Ranke tulip. Great fresh lychee smell. Love it. Then comes a hint of grapefruit and a whole lot of orange julep. Alcohol is a little hot. Looks good, can't wait to taste.

T-Woah. This is really boozy. Tastes a bit like a grapefruit rind vodka drink. not much maltiness left in here so it kind of surprised me, being used to more American malt profiles when dealing with these kinds of hops.
Still a great taste and a different experience. Might be a tad bit watery. Also the more I taste it the more I seem to taste vodka.

M-Greatest part of this beer. Light but full, prickly but pillowy. Foams up and finishes dry. I wish more beers could be like this.

D-Good. clean, light feel make it easy. On the other side, super interesting flavor but rough vodka taste make it a bit harder to drink.

Cool beer. Fun to drink. I'd buy it again if I found it in stores. I do recommend it but it's not completely nuts. It all felt pretty fresh even with a year on it. Glad i tried it even for $ 10.50

Serving type: bottle

10-09-2010 16:24:47 | More by Yoonisaykul
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koolk

Australia

4.13/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Slightly hazy orange with a thick white head. Good rentention and carbonation.

Very hoppy nose, very beautiful. Complex frutis, pine and some yeast notes as well. Very floral to boot. This has it all. Grapefruits dominating towards the end.

Those fruit flavours carry over onto the palate - floral and fruity with some citrus peel and spicy tang on the finish. Nice dry malt flavours in there too.

Thick, long and well balanced sweetness/bitterness.

Damn good AIPA from Europe. A bit pricey, but worth a crack. Bottle 113/729. Was 13 months old and drinking well. Would love to see a fresh bottle.

Serving type: bottle

07-19-2010 11:52:36 | More by koolk
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ADZA

Australia

4.15/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Pretty sure vuur & vlam means fire and flame but thats what ive heard from better sources and obviously this brew comes in the same standard 750ml De Molen bottle with the standard label and after looking at the label i gotta admit there is alot of hops used here which im looking forward to as i do rate this brewery and know they can produce good brews,anyway this is bottle 133 from 570 brewed on the 28th of november 2009 bottled on the 4th of january 2010 and pours a cloudy apricot hue with really nice carbonation that leaves behind a frothy white two finger head that slowly subsides to a frothy mound in the middle of the glass with heaps of lacing everywhere,the aroma is a really nice fruity perfume mix of grapefruit,lemon,lime,stonefruit and piney hops,the mouthfeel is rather smooth but could be more carbonated with nice tastes of grapefruit,toffee malts and finishes with a good dose of piney hops that leaves behind a nice taste of bitterness on the palette but doesnt over do it and yeah its very drinkable and i could drink all night if it was a little cheaper but in saying that its a top quality take on a northwest IPA from a brewery that is in europe will definately buy again.

Serving type: bottle

06-24-2010 14:07:25 | More by ADZA
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PartyBear

United Kingdom (England)

4.1/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Came in a 750ml/75cl bottle, corked and caged, with the standard De Molen basic labeling. Pours as a slightly reddish amber with a light carbonation. There is a massive creamy off-white head which is persistent throughout. The aroma is as you would expect given the huge dose of c-hops used, there is strong ripe grapefruit, a light pine, and a touch of lemon. From the aroma I would never have guessed that this beer had been brewed outside America. The taste is nicely balanced, the bitterness of the hops is not overpower, which is what you sometimes find in beers like this. There is a smooth bitter floral taste with lots of lemon, and hints of resiny pine. Underneath the bitter runs a mild malty caramel, and a nice subtle smokiness. Really like this beer, definitely one of the best c-hopped outside of the states.

Serving type: bottle

04-23-2010 20:18:08 | More by PartyBear
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wl0307

United Kingdom (England)

4.08/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Purchased at the BSF bar, GBBF 2009; this bottle-conditioned ale comes in a 330ml slim brown bottle, BB 2014, served faintly chilled in Tripel Karmeliet's long-stemmed tulip-shaped goblet. NOTE: much information about this beer is printed on the front label - Brewed on 29 April 2009, Bottled on 2 June 2009; EBC 22.2, EBU 42.6; Bitter-ing hops Galena + as late-hops - Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo + Dry-hopping with Cascade; this bottle is No. 51 from the batch of 1344 bottles only. The label actually looks like some freshly printed "laboratory briefing"...?!

A: a huge and foamy light beige froth sits on top of a moderately carbonated, slightly murky dark amber hue. Phenomenal.
S: the smell is more like a well-hopped Tripel with a bit more malt sweetness upfront; as indicated by the front label, the hop composition is indeed complex and hard to "dissect" for analysis, featuring Cascade et al. US hops' piney, apricot-ish, grapefruity & lychee-ish aroma, while Belgian/Dutch exotic yeasts also render a rich flower-estery & spicy (a touch of vanilla and coriander-seeds) aura in the background. In the middle is a more settled layer of overripe fruits (pears, bananas, and pineapples [smoothie like!]) and mixed, toffee-ish+sugary malts. Very pleasant and tremendously hoppy, but the malt syrup is equally rich to provide a kind of gravity.
T: the effervescent mouthful of spicy-bitter & powdery yeastiness and piney hops is refreshing and kicking my taste-buds hard, waking them up to a dry, citrus-peel-ish spicy-bitter aftertaste that ensues closely, as does a vanilla-ish herbal note... Also in the aftertaste, the bready+caramely malts develop by stealth, but way less significant on a balance already dominated by lingering lychee-shell-ish aroma and chewy, spicy, medium+ level of bitterness from both hops and yeast sediments. Surprisingly, at merely 6.2%abv., this ale should leave an interestingly warmer-than-average swallow as it goes down the throat!
M&D: refreshing and semi-lively carbonated with very fine fizz, giving an elevating effect on the flavour actually. The complex hop profile is all mixed up in terms of flavour, and then engulfed by the rich yeastiness that I couldn't have avoided even if a more gentle pour was applied, as the yeast sediments are by no means settled in the bottle - more in line with a Belgian/Dutch bottled ale. The combined effect makes a heavily hopped and yet immensely yeasty semi-IPA style of ale.

Serving type: bottle

10-06-2009 20:55:21 | More by wl0307
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Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 139 ratings.