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Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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86
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154 Ratings
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Ratings: 154
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 13.87%
Wants: 6
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009)
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Photo of rtepiak
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

a deep american ipa with a quality range of palate and bittering. Nice yellow orange with a lacy head. Hints of belgian sweetness that is well backed with grassy pine. Sweetened pineapple, lemon notes, and the vietnamese triple green of cilantro, mint and chinese basil bittering. Clear a great beer for the rich side of vietnamese food.

Photo of metter98
4.3/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

A: The beer is hazy yellowish orange in color and poured with a thin off white head.
S: There are moderate aromas of grapefruit in the nose.
T: Similar to the smell, there are strong flavors of grapefruit in the taste but only hints of accompanying bitterness from the hops. There are some hints of malty sweetness in the initial taste.
M: It feels medium-bodied and crisp on the palate with a light to moderate amount of carbonation.
O: The beer is extremely well balanced between the hops and malts. It’s very easy to drink compared to other beers in the style because it offers all of the aromas and flavors of citrus hops but without the associated bitterness.

Photo of socon67
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

A - Pours orange with a thick creamy foam. There is an awesome amoutn of lacing ont he glass. Looks like some sediment swirling in the glass. Just a very inviting looking brew.

S - Scents of simcoe hops with notes of fresh apricot and citrus.

T - The fruity sweetness int he intial taste gives to a hoppy medley and ends with an astrigent bitterness. The finish is a little harsh, but overall a nice taste.

M - A strong IPA with a rugged finish. If you are okay with pungent bitterness this will drink well.

O - A great find amd glad to try this one. Recommended for those who like their IPA's bold.

Photo of RuudJH
4.53/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

33 cl. , bottled 24 june 2011.

This is a great example of beer to me. De Molen usually makes great brews, and this one is just right, particularly in the style of ipa.

Looks orange brown, beige head. Great carbonation.

Smell and taste fresh. Peach, apricot, citrus, pine, green tea. Massive bitterness that stays in the mouth. Spicy bite in the aftertaste. Tough but balanced. Refreshing overall.

Photo of Dope
4.13/5  rDev +8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottled 12/21/10, bottle # 436. 7 months old but what the hell.

A: Cloudy dark amber with a ridiculously huge white head that never seems to fade. Tons of lacing stuck everywhere.

S: Despite the age the hops are still quite fragrant. Definitely a decent variety in this. There's citrus, pine and grass that I can tell. Distinct simcoe smell. Some bread hiding in there too. Quite nice.

T: Still quite hoppy. Perhaps not as strong as when it was fresh maybe but it's still there. There's orange, pineapple and grapefruit, some pine in the middle, joining with grass on the tail end. Bitter pine and grass sticks through the aftertaste quite well. There is a bit of a medicinal herbal flavor floating around too, again mostly in the aftertaste. Herbal flavor starts to come out stronger in the aftertaste as the beer warms and starts to detract slightly, otherwise this would be higher rated. A bit of caramel sort of coats everything.

M: Lots of carbonation for that tingly mouthfeel. Lasting bitterness suits it well and joins in.

O: Wish I could have tried this fresh, I wonder how it compares. It is still very hoppy and tasty though. Not a malt bomb by a long shot. Worth grabbing if you see it somewhere local.

Photo of oberon
3.9/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle on 21 December 2010.Poured overflowing into a nonic a deeply hazed muddy orange,the head even at a gentle pour went flowing over the glass wich was annoying.The aromas are great with big Simcoe and Amarillo sharp hops being the main component,a sweet caramel base is there as well.The mouthfeel is a little light for my taste but it doesnt take to much away from a nice hop profile on the palate,citric and herbal hops overtop of a sweet biscuit dough base.Its a really good ipa,it could be great with a few tweaks.

Photo of muttyd
3.78/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured gently into a tulip glass yield a huge soapy/rocky off white head. As the head settles, it leaves suds all over the glass. Rather murky brew with some hints of sediment swirling around in the glass.

Despite having been bottled almost 7 months ago, this beer has a pretty impressive hoppy aroma; some pine, herbal tea, and citrus fruits. Sweet bready malts & slight alcohol notes follow the aromatic mix of hops. The flavor has a more piney/resiny hop character with a strong toffee/caramel malt backbone. Bitter grapefruit rind and spicy yeast character in the finish. Surprised that the alcohol (being only 6.2%) gives the warming feeling it does going down. Well carbonated and prickly on the tongue, this beer leaves a sticky/oily coating on your palate.

Being the first beer I have ever tried from De Molen, I am rather impressed. I will seek out this (and their other) beer in the future.

Photo of akorsak
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

A horizontal tasting of the same recipe as interpreted by three different brewers. Take 1: De Molen. At the Farmers' Cabinet. Janlud there too.

A: The IPA is bright, a coppery orange color. A moderate-sized band of head comes along, white a snow.

S: The nose is grassy, possibly the hoppiest of the three. Citrus follows the grass, as does balancing caramel.

T: Pungently hoppy, the ale brings plenty of citrus with resiny pine adding an oily follow-up. Caramel malts, bready, are an adequate counterbalance to the hops. Semi-tropical, the IPA finishes with a grassy bluster. Yeast lends a sweeter presence that also aids in balancing the bitterness.

M: The hoppiest of the three, De Molen doesn't go easy on the bite. That being said, it's not a tastebud-scorcher. A strong take on an American IPA.

Photo of rvdoorn
4.53/5  rDev +18.6%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Had this numerous times, finally decided to review it.
Look: golden bronze color with a nice frothy head.
Smell: passion fruits, grapefruits, yeast, hay and fresh hops
Taste: Grapefruits, pine and passion fruit up front, a beautiful balanced sharp bitterness in the end.
Mouthfeel: Medium carbonation. Nicely balanced
Overall: very drinkable IPA.

Photo of MasterSki
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

On-tap at Local Option. Served in a wide-mouthed goblet.

A - A finger-plus of white foam that has great retention and settles to a thick cap, leaving behind splotchy lacing. Hazed copper-orange body.

S - Great juicy aroma of tangerines, tropical fruits, light pine and earthiness, and a bit of citrus zest. There's some faint cereal grain in the periphery, but this is like a delicious fruit cocktail.

T - Taste is nice, but doesn't pop or have the same depth as the aroma. Sweet citrus hops, and some sugary malt in the background. Low bitterness in the finish.

M - Lower carbonation, smooth medium body, and no obvious alcohol. Light hop oil in the finish, but otherwise largely clean.

D - This is a good beer that I'd gladly have again if I knew it was a fresh batch. One of the few European IPAs that I actually really enjoy. Hope there's still a bit left on Saturday night.

Photo of Kegatron
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

33 cl bottle into a tulip glass. This looks to be from the most recent bottling.

Pours a coppery burnt orange, with several fingers of eggshell-white head. This retains with a foamy ½ finger, leaving back a thick frothy cascade of that settles into some heavy swathes of lace. Those Simcoe hops jump right out here in the nose, with a ripe dankness that is punctuated by notes of spice and pine. Sweetness from the malt seems to get lost along the back a bit, as that herbal character really pushes to the forefront here.

The taste has more of an earthy citric bitterness to it (mostly grapefruit flavors), which is amplified by sharper notes of resins and spice. Unlike the nose, there is not as much sweetness coming out from the fruit, with this having to rely more on the malts for balance. Notes of lightly burnt toast hang in the finish, along with a dry and warm spiciness. The mouthfeel is medium bodied, with a moderate prickliness on the tongue before getting more creamy and slick on the edges. There is a smidge of warmth present in the body but no actual alcohol flavors are detected here.

This was a decent and drinkable enough IPA attempt from De Molen, which while remaining overall balanced and hiding its alcohol well, failed to really differentiate itself from the myriad of other attempts out there right now. Maybe getting to this when it was slightly fresher would have helped.

Photo of tbeckett
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

On tap at 't Arendsnest in Amsterdam. From notes.

A - Poured a cloudy dark orange with a full 2 giner ice cream looking eggshell head. Good lacing and ice cream scoop in the middle. No visible carbonation.

S - I wrote "hopsane" for some reason. Crazy tropical fruit attacking the nostrils. Grapefruit and pineapple come out. Lovely and very aggressive.

T - I came to Amsterdam from the Balkans and this was the first hoppy beer I'd had in a while. It was a great feeling. The best grapefruit presence in an IPA I've tasted. Represents the sourness of the fruit quite well. Juicy, resinous hops. Yeasty with orange zest and a slightly floral finish.

M - Mild carbonation with a light to medium body. Not an intense bitter finish, but obviously there.

O/D - A nice IPA. No flaws IMO. Good ABV and lovely flavour. It might have been me missing IPAs, but this was a great beer and I liked it alot. Worth trying for sure.

Photo of rarbring
4.43/5  rDev +16%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The beer is clouded amber, has a large off-white head taht settles slowly and a bit unevenly, leaves good lacing.

The smell is citric, bitter oranges, grape-fruit, peaches and melons. Some floral notes, grass, pine needles and resin.

Some toffee and brown bread initially, then grape-fruit peel, oranges, and a good grassy bitterness.

Medium carbonation, intense small bubbles, a good body and a long dry finish.

A fresh hop intense IPA.

Photo of brentk56
4.22/5  rDev +10.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Appearance: Arrives with an amber colored liquid; the head measures a bit more than a finger and leaves some decent lacing behind

Smell: Toffee malt with an herbacious citrus character

Taste: Light toffee, up front, followed by the herbal citrus flavors that add kumquat to the usual range; after the swallow, the herbaciously bitter flavors linger, though there is some residual sweetness in the finish

Mouthfeel: Medium body with moderate carbonation

Overall: More of a Belgian IPA than an American IPA, due to the yeast profile; decent, but I have preferred others in this style

Photo of spicelab
3.95/5  rDev +3.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

750ml bottle.

Opaque murky brown. Not an attractive colour in the classical sense. Massive head slowly recedes leaving chunky turbulent looking foam kind of like what you see near river rapids. Gob loads of sediment just adds to the poohey charm. Cool.

Smells of caramelised sugars, fairy floss and sweet citrus, most notably mandarin.

Sweetness again dominates the taste. Lemon sherbet, pineapple and ripe melons. All shit I love, but the flavours seem to get confused or lost in a homogeneous, almost muddy flavour after a while.

High carbonation partially responsible for a slightly harsh and sizzly bitterness, which is a shame because otherwise I could guzzle a tonne of these.

Overall quite an addictive drop for me that I'd love to try fresh

Photo of John_M
3.63/5  rDev -5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

On tap at Max's today.

The beer pours an amber orange color with good head retention and lacing. The is fairly attractive, showing orange citrus and light sweet malt. The flavor profile replicates the nose pretty closely in this beer. Although there some sweet orange, it's countered fairly well by the hoppy bitterness in the finish. While not as hoppy/bitter as I typically like to see in my IPA's, it's not bad. Mouthfeel is meidum bodied, with a somewhat thin, lightly bitter finish. Drinkability is pretty good in this IPA. The alcohol is nicely integrated into the flavor profile, and there's nothing heavy or tiring.

Shrug. While nothing extraordinairy, I thought this was a fairly pleasant effort from the folks at De Molen.

Photo of Sammy
3.35/5  rDev -12.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottled in late 2009, good through fall 2014.
Bottle from Fred. Darkish golden with enormous white fluffly head, well carbonated. Very mild hop aroma. Not getting that much hop bitterness in most sips, I am getting more notes of slight sourness.Thnk it was a long boat trip.

Photo of Daniellobo
3.7/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

lFair IPA, settled on the hops, and yet with a pleasing bitter sense.

Presentation: 33 cl brown, capped bottle. Standard De Molen Label, text over white background detailing the characteristics of the brew. O.G. 1058, F.G. 1012, EBC Colour 22.2 Hop bill, EBUs 42.6. Adds recommended drinking temperature, and cellaring range (up to 5 yrs.). Shows brewing and bottling date (11 March 2010, 12 April 2010), and that this is bottle 320 out of a1210 33cl bottles batch, alongside Alc. by Vol. (6.2%). Served in a tulip glass.

A - Hazy deep amber pour. Towering head with problems to settle down... Quite a beauty.

S - Aroma is soft, faded at this point I guess... But still pleasant with a light hoppy touch, light grapefruit with a sweet malt touch.

T - Bitter sense, not so much a full range but a good bitter touch, touch of faint resin and citrus under the bitter coating, but again, not much in the way of complexity or range of hops at this point. Pleasing malty touch in the back, dash of caramel.

M - Medium body with medium to medium/low carbonation, good tingle in the tongue flowing with the final bitter finish.

D - Aged IPA by design... It still drinks pretty well with a pleasing feel.

Notes: Certainly not by far a remarkable De Molen brew, and sure enough despite the rage, mine included, for fresh and rich hops, they can also (and were supposed) to preserve a brew well, and this still is a good drinker albeit shortly it will hit the one year mark. I'd love to put my hands on a fresh one though... Thanks Toño for another De Molen treat.

Photo of oakbluff
3/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

2 ounce bottle from glouglouburp. Pours a muddy/hazy wheat tangerine with a thick and creamy head and soapy lacing. Nose- iced tea and over ripe tropical fruit. Taste- zippy hop bite with a dish soap overtone, and sweet caramel malts and then astringent bitterness. Seems more like a strong pale ale then ipa with the malt bill and level of hopping, although not all that drinkable compared to a good APA. Solid level of carbonation and medium mouthfeel.

Photo of Phyl21ca
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Bottle: Poured a cloudy light orangey color ale with a large foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma of citrus and bitter hops is dominant with light traces of cat pee. Taste is also dominated by citrus notes with a bitter finish and nice floral notes with some subtle traces of cat pee. Body is full with great carbonation. Well brewed though more floral notes would have been even better.

Photo of DeanMoriarty
4.2/5  rDev +9.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked up three 750ml bottles (corked and caged) from De Bier Koning in Amsterdam, by recommendation from the shop keep after asking for a good American style IPA, and poured it into a stemmed tulip glass.

On the Bottle:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 EBUs

A: Pours a hazy and unfiltered blond/brownish hue with a thick creamy head, leaving massive amounts of lacing in its tracks. Very chunky sediment in all three 750's I purchased - a bit too much for my liking which is why I gave it a 3.5 in appearance.

S: Big piney hops, citrus notes, unique yeast smell, sweet and sugary with toasted malts in the mix as well.

T: Big cascade blast up front, citrus bight, very buttery and nutty, roasted malts, sweet candy sugar flavors and for some reason there's a slight Oud Bruin flavor in there that I thought might just be me, but when I shared one with my brother this past Thanksgiving, he tasted the same flavor - it's very faint but adds a nice dimension to the overall flavor.

M: Medium bodied, sticky and creamy with a good amount of carbonation.

D: Very drinkable and tasty, but man those chunks floating towards the bottom of my glass geek me out. I'd like to see this cleaned up a bit, but otherwise great take on a style that is often misinterpreted overseas.

Photo of baggio
4.08/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Bottle@Home

A: Golden copper with a large, white, head and lots of lacing.

S: Berries, Citric notes, Flowers, Caramel.

T: Grass, Citric notes, Berries (raspberry mainly), Hint of butterscotch and pine.

M: Qute hoppy but the hops used works nicely together with the malty caramel backbone. Carbonation is medium and the liquid feels quite soft.

A very drinkable IPA. Nice!

Photo of StJamesGate
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Pours cloudy amber-tan with stiff piles of eggshell foam. Nose is faint caramel, bruised peach and orange rind. Toffee apple malts with vague caraway/vanilla bean yeast spice then pine resin and fresh apricot hops. Bitter finish. Soft, round, medium, some heat, cloys a bit.

According to the label:
Bittered with Galena
Chinook, Cascade, Simcoe and Amarillo late hops
Dry hopped with Cascade
42 IBUs

That label info should have been a clue: why go crazy with the hop bill, only to give an APA-level of bitterness?
And though it says this can age for up to 5 years, with a June 29th bottle date, at 4 months it already seems to have lost some hop brightness. Hop complexity does deepen as it warms; serve this at cellar temp.

Burns too much to be an APA, not hoppy enough to be an IPA. Swampy hops, weak malts, and then that yeast... Belgian IPA? Not sure what this is trying to be.

2nd de Molen beer, and haven't been blown away yet.

Photo of arturorg
3.68/5  rDev -3.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Served into a Flying Dog pint glass

A: Hazy brownish with a 1 inch white frothy head with no visible carbonation. Small lace

S: Malt, fruity (Passion fruit I think from the amarillo hop), bitter

T: sweet at first, puckering, not very bitter. Thin bodied. Feel a little bit of carbonation.

Good but could be better for De Molen standards, top notch brewery...

Photo of Yoonisaykul
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Couldn't choose between this and Amarillo. Asked staff at Le Cheval Blanc and was suggested this one. Lots of info on the bottle. I wish more brewers did this.

33cl bottle label says: Bottle 0258. Brewed on Nov 6th, Bottled on Dec 8 2009. Only 712 bottles made. Lucky me.

A- Very hazy dirty peach topped by a mass of tightly knit, dirty white foam. Super head retention. It almost looks still. Careful while pouring, you might end up with a glass full of head.

S- Smells very good right from the bottle. Like a lychee gelly snack. Poured into De Ranke tulip. Great fresh lychee smell. Love it. Then comes a hint of grapefruit and a whole lot of orange julep. Alcohol is a little hot. Looks good, can't wait to taste.

T-Woah. This is really boozy. Tastes a bit like a grapefruit rind vodka drink. not much maltiness left in here so it kind of surprised me, being used to more American malt profiles when dealing with these kinds of hops.
Still a great taste and a different experience. Might be a tad bit watery. Also the more I taste it the more I seem to taste vodka.

M-Greatest part of this beer. Light but full, prickly but pillowy. Foams up and finishes dry. I wish more beers could be like this.

D-Good. clean, light feel make it easy. On the other side, super interesting flavor but rough vodka taste make it a bit harder to drink.

Cool beer. Fun to drink. I'd buy it again if I found it in stores. I do recommend it but it's not completely nuts. It all felt pretty fresh even with a year on it. Glad i tried it even for $ 10.50

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 154 ratings.