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Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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86
very good

154 Ratings
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Ratings: 154
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 13.87%
Wants: 6
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009)
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Photo of mattsander
3/5  rDev -21.5%

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4/5  rDev +4.7%

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4.25/5  rDev +11.3%

Photo of Kirk
4/5  rDev +4.7%

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4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of Budinetz
2.6/5  rDev -31.9%
look: 3.75 | smell: 2.25 | taste: 2.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

Brewed on 11/19/2010
Bottled on 12/21/2010
Bottle number 1440.

BottleStates that this beer will be good for 5 years if kept in a cool dark place. Beer was stored for 4.5 years in a cool dark place with temperature control.

Poured from the bottle into a goblet.

Pours a cloudy amber color with a white head that dissipates quickly. Some sediment noted even with a steady, careful pour.

Smells of port wine, Madeira, fresh raison, figs. Definitely oxidized along the way dispute the correct storage. I had this years ago and it was super hoppy. I get none of that now, just oxidation.

Tastes of port, Madeira, oxidized beer, disappointment. Definitely tastes oxidized. Again I had this beer 2 years ago and it was hoppy as fuck and delicious. Although is says 5 years, this is one you may want to drink sooner. Perhaps the retail store stored it improperly. Anyhow...taste is awful if we are looking at an American IPA...otherwise it has a grassy, earthy, funky flavor of oxidized beer.


Mouthfeel is lame...just lame.

Overall if you are having this fresh then it's prolly awesome. Otherwise it's gonna suck oxidized...but it's a learning experience either way so fuck it!!!


Cheers!

Photo of Alex-by
4.96/5  rDev +29.8%
look: 4.75 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

A: Amber color with white head, which dissapears pretty fast.

S: I expected it to be a little bit stronger. Smell is very light - hops, a bit of citrus.

T: A lot of citrus and hops. Though EBU is 63 but it not so bitter as expected. You get more citrus and malty sweetness with higher temperature.

M: Light and fresh.

O: This is one of the best IPA I've ever had. It is not very bitter and really light. Awesome beer.

Photo of captainbearcat
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%

Photo of DoubleJ
4.08/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4

A fresh bottle served at 't Proeflokaal in Delft and served in its own glass. On to the beer:

Looking toasted orange in color and topped with a small head from the pour. Thinn strings of lace ring around the glass as the beergoes down. A pleasant hoppy aroma shows that De Molen not only did their homework, but excecuted the brewing process well. Ripe grapefruit aromas escape and are paired with mango, burnt sugar, and a tease of tea.

Bringing the congas would be one of the few ways to make this beer more tropical. Already, the beer is full of a tropcial fruitiness, highlighted by sweet grapefruit and pineapple. The malt is not to be overshadowed, carrying with it toasted caramel and burnt sugar. The medium body is just right, but with very low carbonation, this already good Dutch IPA may have missed a chance to jump to an even higher level.

Photo of Nolen12
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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3.5/5  rDev -8.4%

Photo of jklecko2
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

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4/5  rDev +4.7%

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3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Photo of Harkrank
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of mick303
4.01/5  rDev +5%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

330 ml bottle with freshness date. Poured into a wine glass. Produced a rather impressive crowning white head with amazing retention, great lacing. Colour is a honey brown. Stunning.

Smell has a bitting citrus fruitiness. Lots of grapefruit peel, some astringent sourness. Some biscuity malt. Pretty intense citrus, close to something like grapefruit pledge, except with a nice honey malt undertone.Very fragrant and interesting.

Taste follows the nose, earthy, leather, mouth-pluckering grapefruit and slight pine needles. Foam is mildly herbal hop bitterness. A light oiliness and honey holds it together, more perceptible yeast. Bitterness probably could use more malt to back it up, a fair bit of sour citrus is a dominent. More balanced to the end, finishes dry and oily hopped.

Mouthfeel is moderate, nice and refreshing, though slightly watery, carbonation is moderate. Quite frothy, a bit of alcohol spice on the end.

Probably the most impressive head and retention I've come across on an IPA. This is certainly an interesting and different IPA. I enjoyed it, a bit dominated by the hops, but it takes a slightly different approach from most American brews, more yeasty I find. De Molen has produced another quality offering, worth trying.

Photo of Farnswurth
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of dln646
4.01/5  rDev +5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4.25

'tis time review a beer I've savored three times since this summer, and whenever I do, I'm ending up taking full-sized sips of it. This time around it pours hazy amber with a more intense golden core. The white foam is massive and leaves behind some substantial gorgeous lacing.

First thing that hits is the utmost interlaced and complex hop aroma. Vuur & Vlam is hopped with five different hops which donates to a vast fruit aroma spectrum of dried fruits, citrus, fruit bread, marmalade, apricots, tropical fruit and some distant weed. It's not exaggeratedly aromatic, rather nuanced and beyond compare appealing.

It is dry and there's a light malt body with a vivid freshness. A soft carbonation quiver against my tongue as the complex hop character of Fire & Flames spices up my mid-palate. The finish has a satisfying length and most hop characteristics come to life here in grape, grass, apricot marmalade and peach. To me, an almost perfect level of bitterness (around medium+) contributes to a high drink-ability.

Vuur & Vlam, in my opinion, is best drunk on bottle, while still being fresh. Still it is out of harm's way to say that a half year on bottle won't obliterate this beer. Over these last months I've come to develop a firm union to this IPA. The hopping is sophisticated, complex and nuanced. This is wholly up my alley - not explosively fruity and gummy. Vuur & Vlam is a role-model, and a force to be reckoned with. http://quaffable.org/?p=401

Photo of f4zZ3
2.53/5  rDev -33.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 2 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Bottle from SB

Served in bottle at home. When pouring, the glass fills up with a orange to gold liqiud. Some white head, about a finger high. Sinks fast with a little lacing on the glass.

Citrus-smelling one. Some lemon and orange, a bit of grapefruit as well. Some wierd note of old tired IPA. Minerals?

The taste is citrus as well. Not a long lasting one. Bitter but not for long. Thin body. Some kind of earthy tones. Would have been better with a bit more body.

Thin beer with moderate carbonation. The bitterness stays for only a short time in the mouth.

Not the worst IPA I've tried, but a bit of a let down. Way to thin in both body and taste.

Photo of bark
2.79/5  rDev -27%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

The colour is amber-brass, the liquid is clear. The two finger head is white and airy; it sinks slowly leaving some lacing on the glass.

The smell is surprisingly smooth. Lots of juicy hops and some bitterness. Bitter-sweet notes of lemon/lime and grapefruits. Orange peels and hints of rubber bands and green plants. Hints of alcohol and butterscotch. No harsh notes.

The taste is bitter with distinct green hoppy flavours. It is dry and all hop-centric, not much malt here. Some pine needles, grapefruits and tangerines. Thin body. The aftertaste is “green” and dry, almost harsh. Some butterscotch and harsh green plants in the finish.

The carbonation is medium strong, the bubbles are mid-sized and long lasting. The liquid is medium to thin.

Good bitterness and citric fruits, but the beer is way too thin and plain.

Photo of Evil_Pidde
3.54/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.25

A: Pour is hazy pale orange with a rather tall and creamy off-white head. After slow dissipation the lacings appear, rich.

S: Tropical fruits galore! Rich American hops, bitter and floral; grapefruits, pineapples, ripe red oranges, peaches and lemon sezt. Caramell malts, semi-sweet, in the back but not weak in smell.

T: Follows the smell, but perhaps a bit milder. Think the smell watered.

M: Aftertaste is bitter and LONG. The body is rather thin while carbonation is rich.

O: It started of right, but the thin body ruins both feel and taste.

Photo of Hultkrantz
3.51/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On the nose sweet, can-conserved cherries - plums a safer reference. (Edit 2nd: Bubblegum)
A silky body, honey, and a bitter aftertaste. A hint of ashes. The particular kind of bitterness in this beer was not to my liking.

Overall rather enjoyable. More amber ale than IPA, perhaps. I probably won't be buying this again though.

Photo of Maakun
3.94/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle in Orval chalice. Pours a nice light amber with small head that leaves some big bubbles floating on top.

Smell: very light and fresh, citrus, hops and a very light yeast.

Taste: nice grapefruity IPA taste, good medium fruity bitterness are balanced with light roasted malts. Quite dry. Latr some more spices and other citrus fruits. Aftertase is mostly bitter.

Mouth: again quite light and fresh.

Overall this is a nice IPA style beer. I like fresh and drinkbable beers, so this fits me fine, though it tends slightly to the light and delicate side.

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4/5  rDev +4.7%

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4/5  rDev +4.7%

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 154 ratings.