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Vuur & Vlam - Brouwerij De Molen

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86
very good

154 Ratings
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Ratings: 154
Reviews: 63
rAvg: 3.82
pDev: 13.87%
Wants: 6
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
American IPA |  6.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: wl0307 on 10-06-2009)
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Photo of FLima
4.28/5  rDev +12%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Hazy amber color with an abundant off-white head with good retention that goes till the end of the tasting.
Aroma of tropical fruits and citrus, hints of passion fruit.
Very well balanced beer, sweet malty flavor with a fruity and citric and bitter taste, presence of grapefruits and tangerine.
Medium to full body with a good carbonation and an effervescent sensation at start.
Had it their Op & Top first, which is also very good and then this, got even better! Excellent beer, difficult to say what to change.

Photo of HomerS
3.5/5  rDev -8.4%

Photo of supermeniscus
4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of jazzyjeff13
4.1/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

A 330ml bottle with a bottled-on date of May 14th 2012. Purchased from Trembling Madness in York a little while back, and stored in my fridge. Five hop varieties and two types of yeast - crazy...

Poured into a Delirium chalice. Bottle conditioned and highly carbonated upon opening. A hazy golden-amber hue with plentiful carbonation and visible sediment. Produces a vast head of fluffy white foam with superb retention; it resembles a meringue. This slowly reduces to a thick surface layer, leaving plenty of lacing behind. I wish I'd used my Duvel tulip instead! Aroma of fruity hops and Belgian yeast. Notes of white grapes, melon, mango, passion fruit, peach and citrus, accompanied by phenolic yeast esters, mild spice and a warming hint of booze. Fantastic.

Tastes of fruity hops and earthy Belgian yeast, underpinned by a hint of light, grainy malt. Notes of melon, white grapes, mango, tropical fruit, peach, citrus, fruity yeast esters, faint clove, phenolics, mild spice, herbs, stewed hops and a warming whiff of background alcohol. Dry and yeasty, with a stinging bitterness upon swallowing. Mouthfeel is smooth, spicy and tingly, with good carbonation and nice body. Stimulates the tongue and dries the palate. Aftertaste of fruity aromatic hops, Belgian yeast and a herbal bitterness.

Very tasty - lovely hop presence. More Belgian IPA than American, with tons of fruity hop notes followed by a more restrained yeast character. Dry and spicy; the balance between hops and yeast is carefully achieved. Lovely body - goes down like a dream. A quality brew, and an example of a successful Belgian-style IPA. Well worth trying if you come across it.

Photo of CrazyDavros
3.9/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 2 | overall: 4.5

Pours pale amber with a large head.
Massive lychee hit in the aroma. Pretty much dominates. Graduall fades to let some peach and papaya through along with some spicy phenols and sweet, biscuity malt.
Biscuity and bready malt first up as flavours with a bold grapefruit and pine hop hit after. Some booze and Belgian phenols following, tripel-style.
Too much carbonation.

Photo of cjac
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Photo of profondo
4.75/5  rDev +24.3%

Photo of BEERchitect
2.83/5  rDev -25.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

Where the old-school though about the "European" flavor was about skunk aromas and subsequent taste, it seems that the newfound relevence in American-style IPAs are developing an overly catty or marijuiana-driven taste overseas. Along with one single glaring problem, this beer captures this notion well.

Despite its dispicable-sounding name, Vuur & Vlaam pours with a very charming appearance. Peach and cammel colors carry an inherent hop-infussed haze that captures the light and dispurses in with an artistic glow. Capped with a dense white skirt across the glass, the beer layers and laces much like English cask ales.

Aromas start with the endearing citrus and topical character that extends over all of IPAs today. Grapefruit, oranges, pineapple, apricot, and lemons are all represented well and are backed with the supple support of light caramel and bread. But it's an accompanying peppery spice that entices the nose at first but then grows into plastic, then rubber, and band-aid aromas that prove to be too distracting to fully appreciate the more IPA-like aromas.

Fruit forward to start the taste, the malts allow the hops to represent fruits with a more candied taste. As the malty sweetness begins to fade, the beer's hop dominance begins. Flavors of ruby red grapefruit, tangerine, apricot, mango, pineapple, and lemons rise to command the taste. But its toward the end of mid palate where the beer's peppery taste interrupts and forces a highly plastic note to dominate thereafter. Spice trumps bitterness and creates a mess to close the session.

But the beer's body is spot-on IPA (having to look past the distracting taste). Dry malt sweetness carries an inherent thin creaminess that's aided by zesty carbonation. But even that is short lived as the beer turns bone-dry, alcoholically warm, and peppery to finish.

Although there's only one real problem with the beer, that yeasty phenol character really disrupts the finer elements of the IPA and causes me to miss the herbal character that needs further exploration.

Photo of barczar
3.53/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Pours a clear light golden color with a quarter inch white head that dissipates into a film of foam.

Aroma is comprised of confectioners sugar, grainy malt, and floral hops. There's a bit of dankness and a hint of citrus present. Grapefruit, citrus zest, and alcohol surface as it warms.

The flavor is fairly subtle, with bitter, catty hops overwhelming the light citrus notes. Tastes a bit flat initially, lacking in malt breadth. Not quite as much flavoring hops as expected. Tangerine and coriander add complexity. Lime zest becomes evident.

Body is moderate, with moderate to low carbonation, which adds to the flabbiness of the beer.

Somewhat disappointing from a flavor standpoint. Lacking malt and hop flavor for the style.

Photo of JDizz
4.5/5  rDev +17.8%

Photo of JavierGC
4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of TasteTester
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Photo of aztraz
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of Jeffo
2.2/5  rDev -42.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 2

Got this at the Mitra down the road. I've had this beer a few times, but never reviewed it. Buying it at the Mitra is pretty cool, so we'll celebrate with a review.

From a bottle into a snifter
Bottled on 14 May 2012

APPEARANCE: Slowly foamed out after opening, even after being in the fridge for a while. Pours a huge, three finger, looser, off-white head with steadfast retention. Color is a slightly hazy amber orange with higher levels of carbonation. Head just doesn't'quit, and gets looser and more pot holed as I wait. Eventually fades to a full wisp and leaves lots of chunky lacing down the glass. Too fluffy and carbonated a look for the style. Head was out of control.

SMELL: Medium nose of pale and caramel malts, some light floral hops aromas and plenty of grassy stuff. Decent, though not quite forthcoming enough, and not really what I'd expect from an American IPA.

TASTE: Starts out empty, unfortunately. Some pale malts, then some melon sweetness and lots of floral hops bitterness at the swallow. Milder yet lingering finish of bitter floral hops, some melon sweetness, and light grapefruit and citrus notes. Alright, but not all that complex or impressive, especially at the beginning.

PALATE: Totally off for the style. Light, thin body and overly carbonated. This beer pretty much always turns out like this, so I can only assume it's intentional. Creamy enough, but goes down very airy and finishes slightly dry on the palate. Not my style at all.

OVERALL: This is listed as an American IPA, but the look at feel resemble more of a Belgian pale ale. Overly carbonated, light and fluffy, the feel just doesn't help this beer's cause. If you're a fan of American IPA's, this won't do the trick. If you want a Belgian pale ale with a hop kick, this might be your thing. For me, I only drink this on occasion when I'm in the mood for something hoppy and there's nothing else around. Fortunately there's usually an insanely delicious imperial stout or barleywine available, so it's rare that I go to De Molen looking for a hop kick. Avoid.

Photo of t0rin0
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of rekel
4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of CookstLiquor
4.3/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured from a 750ml bottle. Whoa, there was a HUGE white, glass-filling foamy head that erupted from every pour. A bit ridiculous. Ah, but get a whiff, and it's all good. There's loads of exotic fruit hop notes. There's mango, melon and more--it's like fruit cocktail with hints of spice. The ample carbonation was refreshing and the aromatic hops were a bit more subdued on the palate. In fact, the finish, while bitter, dissipated quite nicely, so you're not left with an acrid bitterness. Quite a lovely beer and an interesting take on the American IPA.

Photo of djtomain
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of womencantsail
3.58/5  rDev -6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A somewhat light shade of amber with an off-white head. Floral and grassy hops dominate. There is a decent maltiness to the nose, mostly bready. Just a hint of fruit (citrus) in there, maybe some herbal and pine aromas. The flavor is fairly bready, but a decent enough hop flavor. Lots of floral notes with some pine and grass. A strange white grape flavor is also present. Decent, but not great.

Photo of eawolff99
3.25/5  rDev -14.9%

Photo of choover14
4/5  rDev +4.7%

Photo of VierBier
3/5  rDev -21.5%

Photo of nmann08
3.75/5  rDev -1.8%

Photo of zonker17
4.25/5  rDev +11.3%

Photo of Aethien
4.03/5  rDev +5.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Looks: Orange colour and a small off white head.
Smell: Pineapple and other tropical fruits are mixed with yeast, bread dough and some piney smells.
Taste & Mouthful: Aggressive carbonation accompanies the sweet tropical fruits and caramel taste alongside citric hops and a nice bitterness, the pine comes back in the aftertaste. All the flavours blend in very nicely together.

Overall: I think this is my favourite IPA by De Molen, a bit stronger than their Amerikaans and a nicely bitter and refreshing IPA. If not for the fairly high cost (Even in The Netherlands) I'd be happy to drink a couple of these on an evening.

Vuur & Vlam from Brouwerij De Molen
86 out of 100 based on 154 ratings.