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Rook & Vuur - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
80
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60 Ratings
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Ratings: 60
Reviews: 27
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 21.71%
Wants: 2
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Rauchbier |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

(Beer added by: johnnybravo on 04-06-2010)
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Reviews by soulgrowl:
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soulgrowl

United Kingdom (England)

3.53/5  rDev +0.9%

Looks-wise this gives the overall impression of a malted milk ball; dark, thick, chocolatey brown with a big, sandy, beige head. The aroma is mostly a hickory-like smoke, molasses, Band-Aids, a drop of honey, and unfortunately little else. However, the flavor is nice, and has a fair amount of nuance, although it's too try and thin to really savor. Lots of chocolate, some whisky-like smoke, dates, walnuts, and oak – rich and savory. As for the chilli? It's there, but it's very, very subtle – at first you just get its flavor, which integraes well with the smoke, but over time it steadily builds to a satisfying heat that warms the whole mouth. Pretty good, but imbalanced and just a little uninteresting – there are similar and much better beers available from Mikkeller, Black Isle, and Rogue.

01-24-2012 17:37:31 | More by soulgrowl
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Satyr179

Sweden

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

09-08-2012 17:44:36 | More by Satyr179
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

4.18/5  rDev +19.4%

Fresh bottle at Volo release day. Outstanding smoked. Aromas of rich smoked malt and wine. Very rich malt, chocolate, peat, whisky, really tasty, with chiles in the finish.Good amount of retained head. One of the best beers I have had in last few months.

09-23-2012 03:21:24 | More by Sammy
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zaphodchak

Virginia

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

Super foamy. Light tan head piled high that sticks around. Dark brown body.

Thinnish, acrid peat smoke on the nose.

Lightish, wood/peat smoke. Good if thin. Smoke is a bit too acrid.

Mouthfeel is kinda too carby.

Neat, but lots of smoke and not as much body.

06-16-2012 00:45:34 | More by zaphodchak
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.26/5  rDev -6.9%

330 mL bottle poured into a chalice. Bottled 6/25/2012.

Appearance - Wow, it's really overcarbonated. Can't fit this little bottle into a 500 mL glass. Overflow poured into a separate glass. Murky dark brown. Gigantic khaki head. Never goes away. Laces well and leaves a thick pillow.

Smell - Smoke and lots of chocolate. I dig the chocolate. The smoke is incorporated well, I thought it might be stronger. Slightly peaty and meaty aroma, too.

Taste - Much less smoke at the front. More caramel and chocolate. Not a really dark chocolate, sweeter and creamier. Smoke starts to build and finishes with a strong slightly briny flavor. Might be the remnants of peppers, which I don't get distinctively.

Mouthfeel - Way overcarbonated. Makes it feel light and detracts from the flavors.

Overall - After drinking a bit of this, I lost interest in it quickly. Not rich enough and the chocolate flavor dropped off.

08-31-2013 00:44:09 | More by Alieniloquium
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GRG1313

California

4/5  rDev +14.3%

05-06-2012 18:34:13 | More by GRG1313
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robL

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

02-10-2012 20:43:24 | More by robL
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cyrushire

Florida

3.5/5  rDev 0%

11-26-2013 06:13:14 | More by cyrushire
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Bung

Michigan

3.61/5  rDev +3.1%

11.2 oz. Dark brown pour, super big head, bottle overflowed upon opening. Disappated pretty quickly though. Just a bit annoying. Light cream colored head is left.

Aroma, Some woody beachwood smoke. Lighter toffee and malt. Some of the typical Belgian yeast I detect in their brews. Improves as it warms, smoke more prevelent and yeast less.

Taste, A lot of woody smoke again. Heavy toasted malt, peaty and leather. Earthy, toffee. Could maybe use a little more sweetness, say caramel and chocolate. Still pretty nice.

Body, the weakest part here. The carbonation is just too prickly. Lessens the body significantly. Drinks pretty easy though, abv is non-existent.

Honestly my expecations are never that high for De Molen, the half Belgian half other style brews they do are always just a bit of a miss for me. This one however, is a strong representation for the style. If they could just get that carbonation under control.

10-29-2013 01:24:44 | More by Bung
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Wulfkvlt

Kentucky

1/5  rDev -71.4%

02-18-2012 21:04:29 | More by Wulfkvlt
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smakawhat

Maryland

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

Poured from the bottle into my Dogfish Head snifter glass. Bottle dated August 18th 2011.

Appearance.. um ok.. let's call.. borderline ridiculousness. Ninety percent of my snifter is filled with foam that is going nowhere. It's like cellulose insulation in my glass. Seriously. I am looking at my bottle from which I poured. It's full of suds with half of it emptied. Body color is classic dark walnut brown to black. This is ridiculous looking, it gives me the impression it's infected. Finally settles down after a minute or so while I type this.

Nose is unique. Some rauch like classic smoke, beef jerky, but also some faint milk chocolate. Unfortunately, heavily phenolic, band aid smelling and too noticeable. Medicinal forward HEAVILY.

Palate starts off well, then finishes terribly. Hints off with classic smoke that descends into a mess. Afterfinish brings a giant novocaine blast. Seriously my tongue is numb as I am typing this, I feel the needle stuck in my gums. Mouthfeel is not too bad, slightly wet, but there's also noticeable heat here. When have I ever had a beer that NUMBED my sense? oh not until NOW! What joy is THAT?!?

Looking at the ingredients list, chilies? whiskey malts? umm where is this bouquet and flavor? This is a novocaine dentist office trip mess. I am craving a Schlenkerla now, this is not good and just makes me think what the heck where they thinking? Terrible, you've done better. I am scoring this overall REAL low, this is no fun at all and this is one of my favorite styles.. really dropped the ball here. Ok I admit using a snifter on this was a bit overkill, but the taste on this is a real disaster.

02-26-2012 04:04:09 | More by smakawhat
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Telestic

Washington

4/5  rDev +14.3%

12-23-2011 06:39:55 | More by Telestic
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Irish12

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -14.3%

02-23-2013 14:43:23 | More by Irish12
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GONZALOYANNA

Spain

4/5  rDev +14.3%

330ml bottle. ½ pint shaker glass. Enjoyed on jun´12. Pours dark amber in color, headed by dark beige, copious & rocky foam. Crown is lasting, creamy & flavorful. Shows aromas of roasted malts, burnt chocolate & peat smoked malts as well as roasted bacon & peppery hues. Subtle underlying floral notes. Sweet/sour flavor at first sip with intense burnt bread & smoky touch. Flavor seems to be smooth by roasted malts but spicy/smoky hues win the match. Suntuous bitter & kind oily palate. Medium body, moderate carbonation. Dry sour fruit/bitter finish. Odd beer!

06-14-2012 22:37:03 | More by GONZALOYANNA
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schwemjw

Ohio

3.94/5  rDev +12.6%

A: A very dark hazy murky brown with a ungodly large light tan head.

S: Smoke and chili hit you like a punch in the face. slight whiskey character with tons of wood. leather and tobacco at the seams of this beer.

T: Fatty bacon and big wood characters jump out of this one. Hickory and peat. Smoke and whiskey. Caramel chocolate and bread. I tell you these flavors for me are coming in twos! a leather and tobacco with more smoke. a small hint of heat and chili spice. a slight bitter earthy finish.

M: Lighter than i would have expected. long lingering smoke.

O: wow. this is an interesting beer to say the least. good malt, great smoke, alot of earthy flavors. I couldn't drink alot of this but it is very enjoyable and would go so well with a nice robust steak or cigar. /88

08-06-2013 17:53:30 | More by schwemjw
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oline73

Maryland

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

I had this on-tap at Max's. Served in a goblet.

Appearance: Pours an almost opaque mahogany color with a layer of fluffy off white head that fades to a ring around the glass.

Smell: Smokey with some malt sweetness. Reminds me a bit of a band aid because it is a bit medicinal.

Taste: Smoke and dark fruit, the medicinal note shows up here as well. The finish is quite bitter with no peppers to be found.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tons of carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: This beer is way too medicinal. I'm really not a fan and wouldn't have another.

01-20-2012 03:01:45 | More by oline73
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grumblebee

California

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

08-10-2013 04:11:25 | More by grumblebee
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DarthKostrizer

California

3.53/5  rDev +0.9%

Look: Dark brown with a huge 3 inch tan head and great retention and great circular lacing

Smell: Smoked wood and like the name of the beer suggest it smells a bit like a forest fire

Taste: It tastes a bit like chewing on a burnt piece of wood with some chili pepper in the background. Unique to say the least

Mouthfeel: Medium body and very over carbonated with just a slight bit of heat on the finish

Overall: I could not drink more than a bottle of this but I must say it definitely achieves it's goal

02-18-2012 06:43:23 | More by DarthKostrizer
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beerpirates

Belgium

4.05/5  rDev +15.7%

75 cl bottel poured into my lost abbey stemware glass

A : A pitch black beer with a beautiful huge creamy dark brown head.
S : The aroma has notes burnt wood, roasted malt, dextrose, and hints of chocolate.
T : The flavor is sweet with strong notes of tar to start off, then comes medium notes of roasted malt, dextrose, dark bitter chocolate, and wood, leading to a very dry, roasted and bitter finish, where a note of cocoa appears. The chili tickles the mouth.

M : high carbonation , very smooth

D : alcohol is very well hidden , very drinkable !

12-05-2010 20:39:42 | More by beerpirates
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aasher

Indiana

4/5  rDev +14.3%

This one pours a light bodied milk chocolate brown with a billowing three finger, very carbonated and active mocha head. Like most of their 12oz bottles, this one appears to be a little too carbonated. The nose is full of chile pepper, leather, and peat. It's very intriguing. I'm glad it holds its own on the pepper front. The flavors are smoky, dry, leathery, has some bark to it, and earthy musty pepper. It's interesting. It's peaty. The peaty characteristic is it's greatest strength. It drinks lighter in body than you'd think, because of the carbonation. It's effervescent. Overall this was a nice smoked beer. It was pretty well balanced between the peat, earth, and pepper. Solid beer from De Molen.

11-04-2012 00:22:27 | More by aasher
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Claybully

Utah

4/5  rDev +14.3%

05-09-2014 05:17:18 | More by Claybully
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jkd03c

Florida

3.75/5  rDev +7.1%

06-23-2013 05:54:35 | More by jkd03c
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Danny1217

Florida

3.5/5  rDev 0%

03-08-2014 04:10:59 | More by Danny1217
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AgentZero

Illinois

2.95/5  rDev -15.7%

A - Dark brown beer with a pretty good sized carbonation head that left some spots on the sides.

S - Char, burnt wood, little smoke, lot of heavy malts, slight bit of dark fruit.

T - Taste is a lot like the nose, but it focuses mostly on the char and ash. Slight bit of dark fruit and a dose of malt.

M - A lot of carbonation, too much actually. Body is also too thin.

O - Not particularly good or memorable. Taste is too bland and mouthfeel is kind of a wreck on this beer.

05-15-2011 23:28:58 | More by AgentZero
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TMoney2591

Illinois

4.2/5  rDev +20%

Served in a Chimay chalice at Local Option.

It's funny: I came to the Local Option looking to try a different De Molen smoked beer, only to find it kicked and this one freshly tapped. Fair trade to me. It pours a dark black-brown topped by a finger of cream-white foam. The nose comprises campfire, smoked honey-baked ham, caramel and toffee. This is what I'm talkin' 'bout right here! Tasty. The taste brings in more of the same, with a lighter bit of toffee and more of a beech-leaning smoke, as opposed to the woodsier campfire of the smell. Still pretty tasty. The body is a light medium, with a very light moderate carbonation and a slick feel. Overall, a damn fine bit o' smoky goodness. Good times.

01-05-2012 03:57:06 | More by TMoney2591
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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
80 out of 100 based on 60 ratings.