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Rook & Vuur - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
80
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60 Ratings
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Ratings: 60
Reviews: 27
rAvg: 3.5
pDev: 21.71%
Wants: 2
Gots: 7 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Rauchbier |  8.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
Premiant hop & Saaz as late hop.

(Beer added by: johnnybravo on 04-06-2010)
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Wulfkvlt

Kentucky

1/5  rDev -71.4%

02-18-2012 21:04:29 | More by Wulfkvlt
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Lare453

Florida

1/5  rDev -71.4%

02-25-2014 04:22:00 | More by Lare453
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westcoastbeerlvr

California

1.75/5  rDev -50%

03-29-2012 15:45:13 | More by westcoastbeerlvr
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ktrillionaire

Florida

2.3/5  rDev -34.3%
look: 3 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2.5

Thanks to Eric for the share.

A - It pours black and fizzy, and has a very large amount of dark tan foam atop.

S - Smells infected in a medicinal band-aid type of way, and besides that it is campfire-smoky.

T - Tastes like smoky infected dark Euro Strong Ale. In other words, the beer tastes like Porter-meets-Malt-Liquor in a funeral pyre of tar and ashes. Alternatively, car exhaust would be another apt descriptor.

M - Thin, fizzy, badly overcarbonated.

O - Drains were invented for times like this.

Serving type: bottle

05-07-2011 04:23:17 | More by ktrillionaire
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kojevergas

Texas

2.33/5  rDev -33.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 2 | feel: 2 | overall: 2

11.2 fl oz brown glass bottle with standard pressure cap served into a conical Guinness pint glass in me gaff in low altitude Los Angeles, California. Reviewed live. Expectations are below average - a smoked ale with chili peppers and chocolate? Bottled 18 August 2011. Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

Served straight from the refrigerator and allowed to warm over the course of consumption. Side-poured with extra vigor as carbonation issues are anticipated due to the brewery.

Not paired with food.

A: Pours a monstrous nine finger head of okay cream and thickness, and annoyingly good retention. Colour is a solid black. Plentiful yeast particles are visible. Sweet jesus this is yeasty for a rauchbier. No bubble show.

Sm: Pleasant baconey roast, smoke, vague peat, and whiskey (as opposed to whisky) notes. Enjoyable and inviting. Exactly what the style calls for. A moderate strength aroma.

T: Herbal notes (likely hop or yeast derived), a hint of lemon (?), heavy peat, whiskey, dark malts, smoke, roast, and light biscuity yeast. A touch ashy. Complex but not at all subtle. It's also poorly balanced, with a hodge-podge of malts not really cooperating. I don't care much for it. It's a far cry from Schenkerla. Where's this alleged chili pepper note? I can't find it.

Mf: Smooth, wet, and not at all creamy. Wrong for the style, almost entirely. Too thin for the style. Overcarbonated (when will De Molen finally get their carbonation correct?).

Dr: A very forgettable rauchbier. I'd never get it again. A high price for a low quality product. A disappointment from De Molen, but still somewhat drinkable.

"Enjoy within 4 years" me arse. This isn't worth pissing away cellar space on.

D+

Serving type: bottle

06-25-2012 01:55:11 | More by kojevergas
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womencantsail

California

2.38/5  rDev -32%
look: 4 | smell: 2 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Smoked beer with chili peppers...what could go wrong? Dark brown in color with an off-white head. Intensely smokey with lots of roasted malt, mild char, and maybe a bit of dark chocolate. Interesting, the chili peppers aren’t all that strong. The smoke is just as strong on the palate is on the aroma. A touch of peat to go along with all the char and ash. Maybe even a bit of glue, a moderate spiciness, and some burnt nuts. Not very pleasant.

Serving type: bottle

07-03-2012 18:28:39 | More by womencantsail
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smakawhat

Maryland

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 2.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 1.5

Poured from the bottle into my Dogfish Head snifter glass. Bottle dated August 18th 2011.

Appearance.. um ok.. let's call.. borderline ridiculousness. Ninety percent of my snifter is filled with foam that is going nowhere. It's like cellulose insulation in my glass. Seriously. I am looking at my bottle from which I poured. It's full of suds with half of it emptied. Body color is classic dark walnut brown to black. This is ridiculous looking, it gives me the impression it's infected. Finally settles down after a minute or so while I type this.

Nose is unique. Some rauch like classic smoke, beef jerky, but also some faint milk chocolate. Unfortunately, heavily phenolic, band aid smelling and too noticeable. Medicinal forward HEAVILY.

Palate starts off well, then finishes terribly. Hints off with classic smoke that descends into a mess. Afterfinish brings a giant novocaine blast. Seriously my tongue is numb as I am typing this, I feel the needle stuck in my gums. Mouthfeel is not too bad, slightly wet, but there's also noticeable heat here. When have I ever had a beer that NUMBED my sense? oh not until NOW! What joy is THAT?!?

Looking at the ingredients list, chilies? whiskey malts? umm where is this bouquet and flavor? This is a novocaine dentist office trip mess. I am craving a Schlenkerla now, this is not good and just makes me think what the heck where they thinking? Terrible, you've done better. I am scoring this overall REAL low, this is no fun at all and this is one of my favorite styles.. really dropped the ball here. Ok I admit using a snifter on this was a bit overkill, but the taste on this is a real disaster.

Serving type: bottle

02-26-2012 04:04:09 | More by smakawhat
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oline73

Maryland

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 2.5 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2

I had this on-tap at Max's. Served in a goblet.

Appearance: Pours an almost opaque mahogany color with a layer of fluffy off white head that fades to a ring around the glass.

Smell: Smokey with some malt sweetness. Reminds me a bit of a band aid because it is a bit medicinal.

Taste: Smoke and dark fruit, the medicinal note shows up here as well. The finish is quite bitter with no peppers to be found.

Mouthfeel: Medium body with tons of carbonation and a dry finish.

Overall: This beer is way too medicinal. I'm really not a fan and wouldn't have another.

Serving type: on-tap

01-20-2012 03:01:45 | More by oline73
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grumblebee

California

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

08-10-2013 04:11:25 | More by grumblebee
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Higy

Indiana

2.5/5  rDev -28.6%

07-07-2013 03:04:06 | More by Higy
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AgentZero

Illinois

2.95/5  rDev -15.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3 | feel: 2 | overall: 2.5

A - Dark brown beer with a pretty good sized carbonation head that left some spots on the sides.

S - Char, burnt wood, little smoke, lot of heavy malts, slight bit of dark fruit.

T - Taste is a lot like the nose, but it focuses mostly on the char and ash. Slight bit of dark fruit and a dose of malt.

M - A lot of carbonation, too much actually. Body is also too thin.

O - Not particularly good or memorable. Taste is too bland and mouthfeel is kind of a wreck on this beer.

Serving type: bottle

05-15-2011 23:28:58 | More by AgentZero
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Irish12

Pennsylvania

3/5  rDev -14.3%

02-23-2013 14:43:23 | More by Irish12
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Rempo

Indiana

3/5  rDev -14.3%

09-16-2012 23:06:37 | More by Rempo
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Satyr179

Sweden

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

09-08-2012 17:44:36 | More by Satyr179
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BAsbill

California

3.25/5  rDev -7.1%

08-28-2013 20:20:48 | More by BAsbill
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Alieniloquium

Florida

3.26/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

330 mL bottle poured into a chalice. Bottled 6/25/2012.

Appearance - Wow, it's really overcarbonated. Can't fit this little bottle into a 500 mL glass. Overflow poured into a separate glass. Murky dark brown. Gigantic khaki head. Never goes away. Laces well and leaves a thick pillow.

Smell - Smoke and lots of chocolate. I dig the chocolate. The smoke is incorporated well, I thought it might be stronger. Slightly peaty and meaty aroma, too.

Taste - Much less smoke at the front. More caramel and chocolate. Not a really dark chocolate, sweeter and creamier. Smoke starts to build and finishes with a strong slightly briny flavor. Might be the remnants of peppers, which I don't get distinctively.

Mouthfeel - Way overcarbonated. Makes it feel light and detracts from the flavors.

Overall - After drinking a bit of this, I lost interest in it quickly. Not rich enough and the chocolate flavor dropped off.

Serving type: bottle

08-31-2013 00:44:09 | More by Alieniloquium
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robL

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

02-10-2012 20:43:24 | More by robL
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cyrushire

Florida

3.5/5  rDev 0%

11-26-2013 06:13:14 | More by cyrushire
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Danny1217

Florida

3.5/5  rDev 0%

03-08-2014 04:10:59 | More by Danny1217
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Choco86

Utah

3.5/5  rDev 0%

04-29-2014 08:57:14 | More by Choco86
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wattershed

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

01-27-2012 03:11:17 | More by wattershed
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mattfuria

Ohio

3.5/5  rDev 0%

10-19-2013 17:47:45 | More by mattfuria
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ncaudle

Virginia

3.5/5  rDev 0%

11-30-2013 23:53:30 | More by ncaudle
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AlexM

California

3.5/5  rDev 0%

04-18-2012 21:38:25 | More by AlexM
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afsdan

Colorado

3.5/5  rDev 0%

05-01-2014 01:36:29 | More by afsdan
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Rook & Vuur from Brouwerij De Molen
80 out of 100 based on 60 ratings.