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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

64 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 64
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.3
pDev: 8.14%
Wants: 32
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010)
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Reviews by IPA35:
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IPA35

Netherlands

4.49/5  rDev +4.4%

A 330ml bottle, 11% ABV and bottled 28th of january this year. So a pretty fresh bottle.

Pours dark brown, in the glass it looks black with dark brown at the bottom (when held in the light). A thin, tan head. Not pitch black though.

I does not smell unlike the Wild Turkey version I had a while earlier. Still the same dark beer with the obvious bourbon oakyness. A really nice scent: dark sweet malts, some char, chocolate, coffee and bourbon; vanilla, oak and that sort of boozyness. I think this smells better, the other was more on the bourbon if I remember correctly and this one has more of the stout.

The taste has less bourbon as well I think. This is a more malty sweet beer like the original.
Yes, this is a beer with a sweet, slightly roast maltiness combined with the oaky bourbon and a tiny hint of liquorice (had to think about what it was for like 10 minutes and that comes closest). This one hold the middleground between the normal beer and the Wild Turkey in a way. After having had the WT this one is a little underwhelming on the bourbon but it certainly is less fruity than the original as it still hass that oaky/vanilla component from the barrels. This one shows more of the base beer I think. As it warms up the bourbon becomes stronger fortunatly.

It is a highly drinkable and very balanced beer. The alcohol is there but pretty weak for a 11% beer when compared to a a beer with a similar strengt like Rochefort 10.

Not much hop to speak off.

Mouthfeel is medium-to full, nice and smooth and with low carbonation.
Quite dry on the finish.

A really nice RIS, the barrels work very well on this already great beer. If you want a big blast of bourbon I think the Wild Turkey would be the best choice however.

04-27-2013 21:30:53 | More by IPA35
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tectactoe

Michigan

3.8/5  rDev -11.6%

Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Misto BA barrel version of this brew looks the same as the last version we cracked (666): black and black with some deep, brown trim and almost no head that rises up, rather just a tan ring that sits pretty still at the outer edge of the glass.

The aroma is somewhat similar, too, complete with good amounts of deep cocoa, booze, and a touch of coffee beans. I will say that the levels of roast in this brew seem a little larger than the 666 variant; darker roast and more oily coffee beans. Bourbon traces and outlines the entire profile, making this beer smell every bit as big as 12% ABV, and then some.

Mild bourbon and soaked oak crash on the tongue with a good amount of sweet cocoa and some smooth, roasted malt. I have to say, the chocolate character is the Misto variant is quite a bit bigger on the palate than the 666 variant. The bourbon presence is nice and heavy as well, giving a commanding warmth in the back of the throat and turning this beer into a definite slow sipper.

Back-end dry cocoa, a touch of coffee, toast, oak, and lots of bourbon in the finish. The body isn't as thick or chewy as the flavors, and therefore the mouth feel is maybe just a bit of a letdown here. A little more viscosity would do this brew some good; the mild carbonation keeps things smooth, but I can't help but think that it's a touch too thin for the style.

The Misto barrel-aged version of Hel & Verdoemenis unfortunately exhibits a little bit of the same thing that I didn't love about the 666 variant - it's just a bit too bourbon forward and not quite complex enough to really pique my interest. Don't get me wrong, it's a good beer, but I don't think it's quite worth the extreme praise it receives, or at least not this variant. I did like this one just a *bit* better than 666, though.

07-30-2013 11:19:13 | More by tectactoe
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boatshoes

Massachusetts

4.25/5  rDev -1.2%

04-26-2012 21:46:39 | More by boatshoes
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

4.18/5  rDev -2.8%

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

01-17-2011 04:29:24 | More by Sammy
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Ciocanelu

Romania

4.75/5  rDev +10.5%

12-22-2013 20:21:09 | More by Ciocanelu
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crosenkrantz

Switzerland

4.5/5  rDev +4.7%

10-14-2013 23:14:35 | More by crosenkrantz
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Phyl21ca

Quebec (Canada)

4.5/5  rDev +4.7%

Bottle: Poured a pitch-black color stout with a very thin dirty brown bubbly head with minimal retention and not lacing. Aroma of well balanced roasted malt light lactic notes and warming scotch notes. Taste is also a well balanced affair between some well rounded scotch notes and a full body stout with lactic notes and light dry black chocolate. Body is about average with very low carbonation and no apparent alcohol. So easily drinkable yet so tasty I wish I could have this on a regular basis.

10-04-2010 02:12:55 | More by Phyl21ca
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sunnrider

Spain

4.25/5  rDev -1.2%

03-27-2014 22:46:49 | More by sunnrider
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mtbdonn

Colorado

4.5/5  rDev +4.7%

04-17-2013 20:45:14 | More by mtbdonn
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largadeer

California

4.28/5  rDev -0.5%

Alfrantzell shared this one, thanks Arne.

Pitch black and surprisingly more carbonated than the bottle of regular Hel & Verdoemenis I drank a few months back. Rich chocolatey aroma, barrel aging is evident, lending notes of vanilla, musty wood, toasted oak, a little nuttiness and anise. The flavors are nicely rounded, dark chocolate, vanilla, biscuit, anise and blackened malt. The body is rich and full, the finish tannic and roasty. Another great De Molen beer.

09-28-2010 03:02:20 | More by largadeer
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ystazi

Illinois

4.5/5  rDev +4.7%

06-14-2013 14:46:40 | More by ystazi
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liamt07

Ontario (Canada)

4.5/5  rDev +4.7%

12-13-2013 13:06:48 | More by liamt07
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safaricook

Netherlands

4.25/5  rDev -1.2%

12-17-2013 19:53:58 | More by safaricook
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TheBrewViking

Alaska

4.23/5  rDev -1.6%

Appearance is black with very little head but it does stick around for a while.

Smells of bourbon, molasses and cocoa.

Taste is bourbon, molasses, chocolate and vanilla with a good amount of char familiar with de molen stouts

mouthfeel is a bit on the thinner side for the style

overall I love me some stouts from de molen or hey anything from Menno is top notch.
Thanks Erik for sending this my way!

06-23-2013 06:18:20 | More by TheBrewViking
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psiweaver

Washington

4.3/5  rDev 0%

poured into a Bruery Tulip

A: pours hazey brown with not really any carbonation. no head as a result.

S: nice smokey smell with notes of vanilla oak and roasted toffee.

T: fantastic rich taste with bourbon vanilla smokeyness and complex malts. very well balanced and very tasty.

M nicely integrated alcohol could really just use some carbonation to make this perfect.

overall absolutely worth seeking out.

04-17-2011 22:35:56 | More by psiweaver
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ygtbsm94

Virginia

4/5  rDev -7%

02-11-2012 09:58:41 | More by ygtbsm94
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Thorpe429

Illinois

4.47/5  rDev +4%

Huge thanks to Eric for bringing this bottle out. Served alongside the regular version and the Wild Turkey version. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours nearly-black with a very thin mocha head that froths up momentarily and then disappears quite quickly. The nose is really creamy and almost buttery, but in a good way. Loads of chocolate and really smooth. Moderate barrel character lingers in the background, though it's not overpowering. Light oak and some vanilla. The flavor is bursting with a creamy chocolate character with some very light roast and nice barrel character. Medium body and incredibly smooth. No detectable alcohol. This was the winner for me.

05-14-2011 13:30:45 | More by Thorpe429
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GoGriz

Massachusetts

4.22/5  rDev -1.9%

Thanks to Jeff for this!

Lazy Saturday and I was tempted by this tiny bottle sitting in the cellar. Bottle number 2212, brewed in 09 and bottled in 10.

The pour is unimpressive and I wasn't aware that this stout is nearly flat. I give it a good swirl to coax out a head but to no avail. It sits in the glass, cola brown, and I wonder how this beer could be good after the pour.

WHOA! The nose is great! Cocoa, bourbon (although really soft) and other chocolate scents come through. Really nice.

Taste is also impressive. Great integration of flavors. Nothing over the top but like the nose, bourbon, chocolate (bitter and milk). Soft bitterness on the finish...nice and long lasting.

Mouthfeel is odd. I get a touch of carb but really pretty flat. Somewhat syrupy and despite being mostly flat I kinda like the mouthfeel.

I would absolutely drink this again. A great beer that makes me think I should change my preconceptions of flat beer. Enjoyed very much.

05-21-2011 17:48:00 | More by GoGriz
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dangeru

United Kingdom (England)

5/5  rDev +16.3%

07-03-2013 23:30:04 | More by dangeru
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Krakpoff

Quebec (Canada)

4.75/5  rDev +10.5%

02-09-2014 04:17:03 | More by Krakpoff
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leitmotif

Romania

4.75/5  rDev +10.5%

12-22-2013 20:43:06 | More by leitmotif
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bbadger

Texas

4.75/5  rDev +10.5%

01-07-2012 19:51:27 | More by bbadger
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kojevergas

Texas

3.98/5  rDev -7.4%

18cl bottle served into a La Chouffe 25th anniversary tulip in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of beautiful tan colour, excellent cream lacing, lovely thickness, and bad retention (though the high ABV ought to be considered as a defense). Solid black colour; nontransparent. Very appealing.

Sm: A moderate strength scent of coffee, cream, chocolate, toffee, truffle, caramel, and maybe vanilla. Complex and nicely done. Not musty or old.

T: All of the notes on the nose brilliantly balanced together, and coming through fully on the climax. Incredibly well built for the style. The hops are layered instead of merely meshed, and they stack brilliantly against eachother, none dominating and all cooperating for the flavour. Amazing and brilliant. There's not too much caramel as I feared. The alcohol hardly comes through at all.

Mf: Delicately smooth and wet. I wish it were a bit more dry and coarse, but the silky smoothness is welcome alongside the exquisite balance of flavour in the body.

Dr: Very high ABV, fair price (in Amsterdam), and very easy drinking. An incredible beer anyone serious about beer would really enjoy. As a stout lover, I quite fancy it. Serve cold.

06-30-2011 16:38:55 | More by kojevergas
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DefenCorps

Oregon

4.33/5  rDev +0.7%

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison, alongside the regular and Wild Turkey versions (shared by Thorpe429). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is great. Vanilla, bourbon, a little oak, some chocolate liqueur, a little espresso and a nice, boozy bite, this is an excellent -bal stout The palate opens mildly boozy and rather oaky with some astringency. Caramel, fruit and cocoa are present, along with some espresso. Medium-full in body with low carbonation, this is a very enjoyable RIS.

05-18-2011 03:42:08 | More by DefenCorps
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

4.15/5  rDev -3.5%

As I found the standard Hel & Verdoemenis a little rough around the edges and somewhat underwhelming- these more mature bourbon barrel aged versions suffer no such claim. They are stellar in every way!

Onyx black and with a deep mirror-like sheen, the beer opens with an abyss of darkness and a slowly bubbling calderon of bubbles. Its broken sand-stained skirt across the glass diminishes to a collar before finally standing firm.

Musky malt aromas are nutty, roasty, chocolaty, and molasses-heavy. Bourbon soaked oak gives up its heavenly scent with caramel, vanilla, cherries and figs. Spicy with the unmistakable booze notes of Bourbon- the overall scent is of "bourbon ball" candies that are well known throughout central Kentucky.

The first sip weaves together the taste of chocolate and figs for a decadent bittersweet, stone fruit character that captivates the palate thereon. Brewing up from the depths of taste come espresso, walnut, black strap molasses, fudge and cocoa. Red grape, dates, raisins and cherries reel in a savory dark fruit character that hinges on sherry and port. But alas, the bourbon identity is reinforced with all that oak and caramel to finish the beer's taste.

Full bodied, but not recklessly so. A shot at drinkability is achieved by its short carbonation and vinous acidity that cuts through the malt. Alcohol thinning aids with the viscosity while warming its finish. Dry campfire ash tries to limit the aftertaste, but the long bourbon and fudge fights through all that for a lingering savory sweetness.

Strong and seductive, this is a masterful ale that understates its complexity. Its sensible balance and body requires a sophisticated palate to understand and appreciate as much of its nuances are well melded and modestly boastful.

07-26-2013 05:40:50 | More by BEERchitect
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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 64 ratings.