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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Reviews: 31
Hads: 74
Avg: 4.28
pDev: 8.18%
Wants: 35
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
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Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010

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Photo of pkeigs
4.92/5  rDev +15%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I love Hel and Verdoemenis, and this version of it is just stunning. With a great base beer, barrel aging really accentuates the complexity.

Poured from a 5.5 ounce nip bottle, I really wish they would do this one in a 12 ounce waxed dip, the bottle gives you a few swallows. Luckily I also got to try on tap at De Molen during the 1st annual Borefts Festival, and even though Narke stole the show for me, it gave me such an appreciation for De Molen. I ended up searching this beer out multiple during my 9 months abroad.

Pours black, black black, with just a slight ring to show that it is carbonated. Looks lovely in my De Molen glass.

Smells amazing, the thing I love about the base beer is how earthy it is, no citrus hops used here. The barrel aged version is fantastic, notes of vanilla, earth, dark chocolate, bourbon, coffee, espresso, caramel, dark fruit, I could go on and on.

Tastes fantastic, just so balanced, lots of earthy, chocolate notes, slight vanilla from the barrel and a little bit of booziness that I don't pick out from the regular version. The finish just seems to last, and last and last. Great complexity.

Only thing that makes this score less than a perfect 5 is the mouthfeel, it is not as thick as some of the great stouts I have had, it is oily, but just doesn't coat my mouth as well. A fantastic beer that I would like to cellar, just so hard to get here in the States...

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Photo of joshclauss
4.82/5  rDev +12.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured from a teeny, tiny bottle that still said "750 ml" on the label. Looks like a bit of an oversight, since this bottle could not have been more than 8 oz. Hat tip to the Doodler for sharing.

Brewed July 23, 2009
Bottled June 8, 2010
Bottle No. 2364 of 2483

This beer pours what seemed like a slightly darker brown than regular Hel & V, but same as the original, not even a hint of head. Not the best looking beer out there, but that's not really the point, is it?

You get a lot of the alcohol on the nose, but also a slight tartness that is not present in regular Hel & Verdoemenis. There is a lot of spice and oak that takes center stage.

The flavor on this thing is really strong vanilla and oak, typical of whiskey barrel-aged beers, but this one takes it to a new level. The flavors are so defined and not overpowered by the beer. The Hel & V plays so well off the barrels, producing a strong caramelized raisin flavor with the same sharp bitterness that really cuts through the sweetness. It's heavy in the mouth, but the alcohol content rounds out the beer and helps it slide down far too easily.

What a fantastic beer. Not that this is surprising, but it just proves how many beers are begging for barrel treatment. The Wild Turkey barrels provide that really classic bourbon barrel-aged flavor profile, and it's nice to have something that, even though it's called a stout, tastes more like a belgian strong dark that gets this treatment. Very glad to share it, thanks to the Doodler.

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Photo of 4thelvofbeer
4.72/5  rDev +10.3%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

Awesome. Really, really nice. Everything was right on here, nothing bad to say about this beer at all. Appearance was nice...deep black with a nice head; smell was nice. Taste was all there, nice bourbon notes with plenty of malt. Mouthfeel was probably one of the best if not the best. This beer is not too boozy, not to watery, everything really clicked as a really, really good stout. Great job by De Molen! Awesome!

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Photo of woosterbill
4.63/5  rDev +8.2%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Nip, brewed '09 bottled '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Huge thanks to the ever-generous Knifestyles for sharing this elusive, exciting brew.

A: Clear dark brown body, completely still. Mediocre.

S: Rich, smooth, and amazing. The smoky intensity of the base beer lends serious character, but is beautifully mellowed out by vanilla + toffee sweetness, as well as some oak and smooth bourbon. Just a lovely BA stout.

T: Follows the nose perfectly, with both powerful and finesse. Fabulous balance of booze and malt, sweetness and richness. Delicious.

M: Full, sticky body; no real carbonation. Not enough life to stand up to the power of the flavor.

O: What a tasty beer. This one is proof that carbonation isn't necessary to create a beautifully tasty barrel-aged beer. Yeah, it would have been more enjoyable overall if it had been carbonated (and it certainly would have been more drinkable, but that doesn't get counted anymore), but the flavors transcend everything else to make this a wonderful experience. I feel so lucky to have gotten to try this rare and delicious beer.


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Photo of Phyl21ca
4.5/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a pitch-black color stout with a very thin dirty brown bubbly head with minimal retention and not lacing. Aroma of well balanced roasted malt light lactic notes and warming scotch notes. Taste is also a well balanced affair between some well rounded scotch notes and a full body stout with lactic notes and light dry black chocolate. Body is about average with very low carbonation and no apparent alcohol. So easily drinkable yet so tasty I wish I could have this on a regular basis.

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Photo of IPA35
4.49/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

A 330ml bottle, 11% ABV and bottled 28th of january this year. So a pretty fresh bottle.

Pours dark brown, in the glass it looks black with dark brown at the bottom (when held in the light). A thin, tan head. Not pitch black though.

I does not smell unlike the Wild Turkey version I had a while earlier. Still the same dark beer with the obvious bourbon oakyness. A really nice scent: dark sweet malts, some char, chocolate, coffee and bourbon; vanilla, oak and that sort of boozyness. I think this smells better, the other was more on the bourbon if I remember correctly and this one has more of the stout.

The taste has less bourbon as well I think. This is a more malty sweet beer like the original.
Yes, this is a beer with a sweet, slightly roast maltiness combined with the oaky bourbon and a tiny hint of liquorice (had to think about what it was for like 10 minutes and that comes closest). This one hold the middleground between the normal beer and the Wild Turkey in a way. After having had the WT this one is a little underwhelming on the bourbon but it certainly is less fruity than the original as it still hass that oaky/vanilla component from the barrels. This one shows more of the base beer I think. As it warms up the bourbon becomes stronger fortunatly.

It is a highly drinkable and very balanced beer. The alcohol is there but pretty weak for a 11% beer when compared to a a beer with a similar strengt like Rochefort 10.

Not much hop to speak off.

Mouthfeel is medium-to full, nice and smooth and with low carbonation.
Quite dry on the finish.

A really nice RIS, the barrels work very well on this already great beer. If you want a big blast of bourbon I think the Wild Turkey would be the best choice however.

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Photo of Thorpe429
4.47/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Eric for bringing this bottle out. Served alongside the regular version and the Wild Turkey version. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours nearly-black with a very thin mocha head that froths up momentarily and then disappears quite quickly. The nose is really creamy and almost buttery, but in a good way. Loads of chocolate and really smooth. Moderate barrel character lingers in the background, though it's not overpowering. Light oak and some vanilla. The flavor is bursting with a creamy chocolate character with some very light roast and nice barrel character. Medium body and incredibly smooth. No detectable alcohol. This was the winner for me.

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Photo of peensteen
4.45/5  rDev +4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Big thanks to Jeffo for this bottle!

Near jet black, ring of tan head, nothing in the way of lace. Smell is full of chocolate fudge, some oak, bourbon and vanilla, nice deep roast malt, a bit of dark fruit-raisin, before finishing with more fudge cake, reminds me a lot of a chocolate lava cake. Taste is like the nose with lots of chocolatey fudge, roast, vanilla, bourbon and oak, just a bit of the fruit from the nose comes across in the flavour, long roasted finish. Dry mouthfeel, syrupy, thick rich feel, lightly carbonated. Awesome stuff here and the best of the 3 Hel & Verdoemenis variants we had on this particular evening.

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Photo of Thehuntmaster
4.42/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

330ml bottle 11,0% Abv.
Served chilled in a snifter.
Bottled on 28th Jan 2013.

Appearance: Hel & Verdoemenis Misto appears pitch black in the glass, however a back light revealing a fair amount of deep red along the edges of the glass. A rough pour results in a good sized dark tan coloured head, that displays reasonable retention for the style and even leaves some patchy lacing as it recedes. A swirl coats the glass in in a light yellow film and heavy alcohol legs.

Smell: This smells delicious! Bourbon and creamy sweet vanilla leap out of the glass, with oak, sugary dark caramel, dark chocolate, cocoa laced butter icing, some roasted malt and a little char not far behind. As the beer warms dark fruit notes (chocolate covered black cherries) become apparent, alongside butterscotch, leather and a hint of tobacco.

Taste: The flavour is not quite as sweet as the nose suggested (as with all the H&V varients), with roasted malt and char playing a much bigger part and a solid bitterness in the finish. Other notes include: Dark chocolate, oak, vanilla, bourbon, dark caramel, a little liquorice, molasses, dark fruits (notably cherries) and an earthy character. There is no trace of alcohol noted in the flavour.

Mouthfeel: The body is medium-full and lightly sticky, while the carbonation is of a low level and fantastically smooth.

Overall: Another superb BA version of H&V and one I can't wait to have again.

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Photo of Huhzubendah
4.41/5  rDev +3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by ygtbsm94. Thanks Brad.

Dark brown body with a thin beige cap. Oak, vanilla, booze, cognac? Sweet almonds and booze, biscotti character. Delicious flavor. Easy drinking. Medium bodied. Light carbonation. Flavors meld so well together. Fabulous.

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Photo of MasterSki
4.37/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from Jeffo. Served in Hill farmstead stemware.

A - Quick-dissolving tan foam settles to a thin collar, wisps, and a very dark brown body.

S - Sweet, biscuit and milk chocolate malts, caramel, vanilla, light oak, hints of smoke, and umami, and an increasing bourbon presence as the beer warms.

T - Taste is quite similar to the H&V Wild Turkey (which is part of this blend). An enjoyable melange of bourbon, smoke, toasted biscuits, chocolate, and a touch of umami. Barrel is more forward, with sweeter malt characters appearing in the finish. Well-hidden alcohol.

M - Smooth, medium-full body, with pleasant lower carbonation. Light tannic in the finish, with some residual stickiness. Not much alcohol warmth.

D - Definitely one of the strongest H&V variants - I prefer this one to the new Wild Turkey release. That being said, the differences are quite subtle. The nip bottle was greatly enjoyed and I found myself wishing this was a larger bottle.

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Photo of baggio
4.35/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4


A: Darkish brown with a , wee, beige head.

S: Bourbon, Caramel, Roasted malts, Hint of overripe fruit.

T: Liqorice, Vanilla, Chocolate, Dark caramel, Portwine and a hint of alcohol.

M: Velvety smooth with an edge of bitterness and alcohol. Low carbonation.

This is a fine stout from Herr Menno. Very smooth and highly drinkable. I would wish for a little more residual sweetness and a wee bit more body but other than that this is superb. Impressive.

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Photo of DefenCorps
4.32/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison, alongside the regular and Wild Turkey versions (shared by Thorpe429). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is great. Vanilla, bourbon, a little oak, some chocolate liqueur, a little espresso and a nice, boozy bite, this is an excellent -bal stout The palate opens mildly boozy and rather oaky with some astringency. Caramel, fruit and cocoa are present, along with some espresso. Medium-full in body with low carbonation, this is a very enjoyable RIS.

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Photo of biegaman
4.32/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Most barrel-aged beers end up looking like death dug up but Hel & Verdoemenis Misto, which is aged in Wild Turkey bourbon barrels, has retained a lot of its sleek black marble complexion (despite the best efforts of some sneaky and nasty-thick sediment). Its head, however, is another story; not even swirling can resuscitate that.

The beer smells like dark chocolate-covered cigars. It is terribly rich and intricate, but if we were to overlook all the subtle complexities we'd end up with a particularly vanilla-rich black forest cake. But bourbon barrels being what they are it's impossible to make things so simple - I'd have to hire a private detective to uncover all the flavours of this bouquet.

Hel & Verdoemenis is a pretty substantial stout in its own right; it boasts notes of bakers chocolate, teriyaki barbecue, french vanilla ice cream, blackberry jam, and coffee grounds. But to age even such a tall and broad beer in bourbon barrels is akin to slathering lettuce leaf in cream sauce - it won't hold up, one flavour is simply bigger than the other.

Fortunately, in the course of dominating, the charred oak and cigar smoke notes of the bourbon don't completely obliterate the roast maltiness or too much of its dark chocolate and coffee undertones. It makes no qualms about its strength but it is composed; give yourself a lot of time to drink this one (but rest assured you'll enjoy every minute of it).

I've had bourbon-barrel aged beers that taste like heaven... and others that drink like failed suicide. Hel & Verdoemenis ("Hell & Damnation") Misto, contrary to what its name suggests, is definitely a product of the angels; it is a divine, nuanced taste that blends Kentucky's barrels with barley's richest, roastiest flavours. Right on par with the 666, arguably even better.

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Photo of Jeffo
4.3/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another one-off from De Molen. Even if they don't all work out wonderfully, I really appreciate their drive to experiment. This one worked out beautifully.

Found this at The Cracked Kettle in Amsterdam.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifer.
Brewed 23 July 2009 and bottled 08 June 2010.
Bottle 1058 of 2483.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and produces a small mocha colored head that quickly fades to a wisp and ring. Black body with zero carbonation evident. A slight ring remains with a nice swirling wisp but leaves no lacing down the glass. Looks nice.

SMELL: Roasted malts, with some nice bourbon and vanilla notes from the barrel. Some coffee notes with dark chocolate and booze in there as well. A big nose on this one, and smells very nice.

TASTE: Lots of roasted malts, vanilla and bourbon, as well as coffee and bitter chocolate in the taste profile. Some caramel sweetness and boozy elements make an appearance as well. A long, bold aftertaste of bitter coffee, chocolate, bourbon and some burnt, roasted malt as well. A treat.

PALATE: Medium body and lower end carbonation. Creamy on the palate, goes down slightly prickly with s small burn at the back, and finishes nicely mouth-coating. Very nice indeed, but a bit of a heavier burn for my liking.

OVERALL: A great barrel aged stout, and you can definitely taste the resemblance to the Wild Turkey BA. Very flavorful and enjoyable, and just the right amount of carbonation to bring it to life. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the base beer, but this aged version was a real treat. Give it a try if you get the chance.

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Photo of psiweaver
4.27/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into a Bruery Tulip

A: pours hazey brown with not really any carbonation. no head as a result.

S: nice smokey smell with notes of vanilla oak and roasted toffee.

T: fantastic rich taste with bourbon vanilla smokeyness and complex malts. very well balanced and very tasty.

M nicely integrated alcohol could really just use some carbonation to make this perfect.

overall absolutely worth seeking out.

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Photo of largadeer
4.25/5  rDev -0.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Alfrantzell shared this one, thanks Arne.

Pitch black and surprisingly more carbonated than the bottle of regular Hel & Verdoemenis I drank a few months back. Rich chocolatey aroma, barrel aging is evident, lending notes of vanilla, musty wood, toasted oak, a little nuttiness and anise. The flavors are nicely rounded, dark chocolate, vanilla, biscuit, anise and blackened malt. The body is rich and full, the finish tannic and roasty. Another great De Molen beer.

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Photo of drabmuh
4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was my second favorite although it was close for me for first place.

Beer is black with almost no head, lower carbonation than the parent beer and no lacing to speak of.

The nose is nicer than the original too. Sweeter, less roasty, mostly a clean, smooth, chocolate, mildly vanillic, oakiness to it. More yeast character in this version too.

This one was balanced and mild overall, the creaminess of the mouthfeel was the most incredible thing about it. The barrel aging character seemed a bit muted to me though. Something about this one, I wasn't expecting them to be "in my face" but a little more aggressive wouldn't have been a bad thing. I want to taste the barrel more is what I'm saying and I missed out slightly here. This is why it came in second for me.

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Photo of TheBrewViking
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.25

Appearance is black with very little head but it does stick around for a while.

Smells of bourbon, molasses and cocoa.

Taste is bourbon, molasses, chocolate and vanilla with a good amount of char familiar with de molen stouts

mouthfeel is a bit on the thinner side for the style

overall I love me some stouts from de molen or hey anything from Menno is top notch.
Thanks Erik for sending this my way!

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Photo of GoGriz
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff for this!

Lazy Saturday and I was tempted by this tiny bottle sitting in the cellar. Bottle number 2212, brewed in 09 and bottled in 10.

The pour is unimpressive and I wasn't aware that this stout is nearly flat. I give it a good swirl to coax out a head but to no avail. It sits in the glass, cola brown, and I wonder how this beer could be good after the pour.

WHOA! The nose is great! Cocoa, bourbon (although really soft) and other chocolate scents come through. Really nice.

Taste is also impressive. Great integration of flavors. Nothing over the top but like the nose, bourbon, chocolate (bitter and milk). Soft bitterness on the finish...nice and long lasting.

Mouthfeel is odd. I get a touch of carb but really pretty flat. Somewhat syrupy and despite being mostly flat I kinda like the mouthfeel.

I would absolutely drink this again. A great beer that makes me think I should change my preconceptions of flat beer. Enjoyed very much.

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Photo of tpd975
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge Thanks to SeaBass Bottle 723 of 2483

A: Pours a nice dark black hue. Small tan head which dies to a tight ring. Spotty lace.

S: Mild aromas really for a RIS. Smokey, peaty, and charred. Deeply roasted malt, chocolate, mild dark fruit.

T: Wonderful rich flavors. Earthy, lightly peated with hints of smoke. Chocolate and coffee are there with hints of booze.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Very good, tasty brew, one I am honored to have tried.

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Photo of STEG
4.19/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A special thanks to Jeffo for trading this with me.

18cl green bottle with green silly putty.

As the cap is pried off I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best and as I hear a hiss I am relieved. 4/6 in carbonation De Molen, you're getting much better.

Pours pitch black, as one would expect from a variant of hel and verdoemenis, what little head that is produced from a straight down pour is soon lost and it just kinda sits there slightly bubbling...Not appealing, not unappealing...

Smell has light bourbon, burnt sugar, toffee, black coffee, and raisin notes.

Taste begins very sweet with bourbon and vanilla up front and then proceeds to move into showing its true base beer's colors with chocolate, coffee, and smoke and finishes with an earthy bitter hop bite.

Mouthfeel is smooth, warming and viscous with just enough carbonation to take the monotony out of it.

12oz wouldn't hurt, I kinda get depressed at how little these 18cl bottles hole. A 750 of this would be tough to get through but a 12oz would be perfect. The alcohol presence and somewhat intense mouthfeel make this a bit far off from sessionable.

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Photo of danieelol
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a viscous black with nice slightly tanned head and great lacing. Looks gorgeous and, when swirled, develops almost a purple vinous colour.

Nose is subtle banana, whiteboard marker, bit of swamp water and a little chocolate. Massive bourbon. Opens up into more chocolate and a waxy, almost creamy, quality. Almost has a cocoa nib character.

Taste is chocolate, a little dusty and smoky. Again very vinous and almost a little bit sour. Finishes strongly dry like a red wine. Still a bit of banana here. Bit of vanilla.

Mouthfeel is a good combination of a little sourness, a great charred bitterness and also a balancing sweetness.

Not sure if this was partly aged in Jack Daniel's barrels, the banana notes certainly suggest so. Good beer, perhaps could have done with more age (a year or so+) before opening to open up the flavours a bit more. If I had the cash, would buy another bottle to age.

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Photo of JAXSON
4.17/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a small snifter. Black with a thin mocha head that settles to a ring. Nose is ashy, smoke, a bit of anise, charcoal, dry baker's chocolate. Very nice, I love that ash quality in a barrel aged imperial stout. Nice, prickly carbonation in the mouth. At first a bit sweet, anise, licorice. Segues into that oak and charcoal. Dusty. Wow, I love it. Boozy and hot, but of course that's to be expected. A complete win on the marriage of anise and ash, my two favorite qualities for a barrel aged stout. Some astringent quality that may go hand in hand with the heat hurts the finish a bit.

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Photo of Sammy
4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
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