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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

66 Ratings
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Ratings: 66
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.29
pDev: 8.16%
Wants: 32
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010)
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3.5/5  rDev -18.4%

ajzy, Jun 07, 2013
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2010
The beer pours with a creamy, light browned head that gets large bubbled as it recedes. The beer itself is a dark, black to concentrated brown color. The beer smells up front of Bourbon like notes, then a nutty note, some touches of soy sauce somehow, a touch of mocha, toasted coconut and a big vanillin note in the finish. The nose definitely has some nice complexity to it.

The beer is somewhat sweet tasting, though not overly so and it finishes with a bit bourbon note that doesn't quite get hot, but also has a somewhat fruity and raisin like flavor to it. Oaky notes of fresh cut wood, oak-spice character, lots of vanillin and a slightly buttery oak notes are all found here. There are also notes of sherry that gets a bit nutty and even accentuates a hint of cherry in the flavor. This is definitely an interesting beer, but it doesn't quite hit the mark for me somehow.

Gueuzedude, Dec 27, 2010
Photo of tectactoe
3.8/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Misto BA barrel version of this brew looks the same as the last version we cracked (666): black and black with some deep, brown trim and almost no head that rises up, rather just a tan ring that sits pretty still at the outer edge of the glass.

The aroma is somewhat similar, too, complete with good amounts of deep cocoa, booze, and a touch of coffee beans. I will say that the levels of roast in this brew seem a little larger than the 666 variant; darker roast and more oily coffee beans. Bourbon traces and outlines the entire profile, making this beer smell every bit as big as 12% ABV, and then some.

Mild bourbon and soaked oak crash on the tongue with a good amount of sweet cocoa and some smooth, roasted malt. I have to say, the chocolate character is the Misto variant is quite a bit bigger on the palate than the 666 variant. The bourbon presence is nice and heavy as well, giving a commanding warmth in the back of the throat and turning this beer into a definite slow sipper.

Back-end dry cocoa, a touch of coffee, toast, oak, and lots of bourbon in the finish. The body isn't as thick or chewy as the flavors, and therefore the mouth feel is maybe just a bit of a letdown here. A little more viscosity would do this brew some good; the mild carbonation keeps things smooth, but I can't help but think that it's a touch too thin for the style.

The Misto barrel-aged version of Hel & Verdoemenis unfortunately exhibits a little bit of the same thing that I didn't love about the 666 variant - it's just a bit too bourbon forward and not quite complex enough to really pique my interest. Don't get me wrong, it's a good beer, but I don't think it's quite worth the extreme praise it receives, or at least not this variant. I did like this one just a *bit* better than 666, though.

tectactoe, Jul 30, 2013
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3.98/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

18cl bottle served into a La Chouffe 25th anniversary tulip in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of beautiful tan colour, excellent cream lacing, lovely thickness, and bad retention (though the high ABV ought to be considered as a defense). Solid black colour; nontransparent. Very appealing.

Sm: A moderate strength scent of coffee, cream, chocolate, toffee, truffle, caramel, and maybe vanilla. Complex and nicely done. Not musty or old.

T: All of the notes on the nose brilliantly balanced together, and coming through fully on the climax. Incredibly well built for the style. The hops are layered instead of merely meshed, and they stack brilliantly against eachother, none dominating and all cooperating for the flavour. Amazing and brilliant. There's not too much caramel as I feared. The alcohol hardly comes through at all.

Mf: Delicately smooth and wet. I wish it were a bit more dry and coarse, but the silky smoothness is welcome alongside the exquisite balance of flavour in the body.

Dr: Very high ABV, fair price (in Amsterdam), and very easy drinking. An incredible beer anyone serious about beer would really enjoy. As a stout lover, I quite fancy it. Serve cold.

kojevergas, Jun 30, 2011
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4/5  rDev -6.8%

tom10101, Sep 08, 2013
Photo of jrallen34
4.03/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

18cl bottle poured into my Bruery tulip...Black pour with very little carbonation, not much lacing or much to look at...The aroma is too light can't pull much out. However, I get some really nice vanilla and bourbon coming through, little too much alcohol. Light char as it warms on the finish, pretty interesting and yummy...The taste is pretty good and similar to the aroma, just not as successful. More alcohol comes through, and light vanilla. Not enough coffee or chocolate or bitterness to balance this out. Additionally, the feel is light and not as full as I want in a stout, affects my enjoyment of the taste.

jrallen34, Dec 09, 2010
Photo of dasenebler
4.08/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

18cl green bottle, wax sealed. No. 1213, bottled on June 8, 2010.

Pours a thick dark brown with rosy highlights, appears black in glass. Small oily wisps of foam, but no head really.

The aroma is outstanding, with fat roasty notes, big alcohol, dates and chocolate fudge.

Tasty stout. Lightly sweet, with actually a hefty hop bitterness on the back. Dark chocolate and highly kilned coffee. The Bourbon notes are there, but with more of healthy oakiness than an in-you-face whiskey character. Maybe the vanillin could be amped up a bit, but otherwise this is a very pleasant beer. The mouthfeel is thick and oily, but the carbonation is practically non-existent. Though I like my big stouts and barleywines with fewer bubbles, this one could use a touch more effervescence.

Really good beer, well-balanced. My only complaint is really the tiny size of this bottle; it goes way too fast. A 33cl would be perfect.

dasenebler, Mar 11, 2011
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4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

As I found the standard Hel & Verdoemenis a little rough around the edges and somewhat underwhelming- these more mature bourbon barrel aged versions suffer no such claim. They are stellar in every way!

Onyx black and with a deep mirror-like sheen, the beer opens with an abyss of darkness and a slowly bubbling calderon of bubbles. Its broken sand-stained skirt across the glass diminishes to a collar before finally standing firm.

Musky malt aromas are nutty, roasty, chocolaty, and molasses-heavy. Bourbon soaked oak gives up its heavenly scent with caramel, vanilla, cherries and figs. Spicy with the unmistakable booze notes of Bourbon- the overall scent is of "bourbon ball" candies that are well known throughout central Kentucky.

The first sip weaves together the taste of chocolate and figs for a decadent bittersweet, stone fruit character that captivates the palate thereon. Brewing up from the depths of taste come espresso, walnut, black strap molasses, fudge and cocoa. Red grape, dates, raisins and cherries reel in a savory dark fruit character that hinges on sherry and port. But alas, the bourbon identity is reinforced with all that oak and caramel to finish the beer's taste.

Full bodied, but not recklessly so. A shot at drinkability is achieved by its short carbonation and vinous acidity that cuts through the malt. Alcohol thinning aids with the viscosity while warming its finish. Dry campfire ash tries to limit the aftertaste, but the long bourbon and fudge fights through all that for a lingering savory sweetness.

Strong and seductive, this is a masterful ale that understates its complexity. Its sensible balance and body requires a sophisticated palate to understand and appreciate as much of its nuances are well melded and modestly boastful.

BEERchitect, Jul 26, 2013
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4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a small snifter. Black with a thin mocha head that settles to a ring. Nose is ashy, smoke, a bit of anise, charcoal, dry baker's chocolate. Very nice, I love that ash quality in a barrel aged imperial stout. Nice, prickly carbonation in the mouth. At first a bit sweet, anise, licorice. Segues into that oak and charcoal. Dusty. Wow, I love it. Boozy and hot, but of course that's to be expected. A complete win on the marriage of anise and ash, my two favorite qualities for a barrel aged stout. Some astringent quality that may go hand in hand with the heat hurts the finish a bit.

JAXSON, Nov 29, 2010
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4.16/5  rDev -3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Pours a viscous black with nice slightly tanned head and great lacing. Looks gorgeous and, when swirled, develops almost a purple vinous colour.

Nose is subtle banana, whiteboard marker, bit of swamp water and a little chocolate. Massive bourbon. Opens up into more chocolate and a waxy, almost creamy, quality. Almost has a cocoa nib character.

Taste is chocolate, a little dusty and smoky. Again very vinous and almost a little bit sour. Finishes strongly dry like a red wine. Still a bit of banana here. Bit of vanilla.

Mouthfeel is a good combination of a little sourness, a great charred bitterness and also a balancing sweetness.

Not sure if this was partly aged in Jack Daniel's barrels, the banana notes certainly suggest so. Good beer, perhaps could have done with more age (a year or so+) before opening to open up the flavours a bit more. If I had the cash, would buy another bottle to age.

danieelol, Aug 31, 2013
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4.18/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

Sammy, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of STEG
4.2/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A special thanks to Jeffo for trading this with me.

18cl green bottle with green silly putty.

As the cap is pried off I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best and as I hear a hiss I am relieved. 4/6 in carbonation De Molen, you're getting much better.

Pours pitch black, as one would expect from a variant of hel and verdoemenis, what little head that is produced from a straight down pour is soon lost and it just kinda sits there slightly bubbling...Not appealing, not unappealing...

Smell has light bourbon, burnt sugar, toffee, black coffee, and raisin notes.

Taste begins very sweet with bourbon and vanilla up front and then proceeds to move into showing its true base beer's colors with chocolate, coffee, and smoke and finishes with an earthy bitter hop bite.

Mouthfeel is smooth, warming and viscous with just enough carbonation to take the monotony out of it.

12oz wouldn't hurt, I kinda get depressed at how little these 18cl bottles hole. A 750 of this would be tough to get through but a 12oz would be perfect. The alcohol presence and somewhat intense mouthfeel make this a bit far off from sessionable.

STEG, Jan 30, 2011
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4.2/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was my second favorite although it was close for me for first place.

Beer is black with almost no head, lower carbonation than the parent beer and no lacing to speak of.

The nose is nicer than the original too. Sweeter, less roasty, mostly a clean, smooth, chocolate, mildly vanillic, oakiness to it. More yeast character in this version too.

This one was balanced and mild overall, the creaminess of the mouthfeel was the most incredible thing about it. The barrel aging character seemed a bit muted to me though. Something about this one, I wasn't expecting them to be "in my face" but a little more aggressive wouldn't have been a bad thing. I want to taste the barrel more is what I'm saying and I missed out slightly here. This is why it came in second for me.

drabmuh, May 16, 2011
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4.22/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff for this!

Lazy Saturday and I was tempted by this tiny bottle sitting in the cellar. Bottle number 2212, brewed in 09 and bottled in 10.

The pour is unimpressive and I wasn't aware that this stout is nearly flat. I give it a good swirl to coax out a head but to no avail. It sits in the glass, cola brown, and I wonder how this beer could be good after the pour.

WHOA! The nose is great! Cocoa, bourbon (although really soft) and other chocolate scents come through. Really nice.

Taste is also impressive. Great integration of flavors. Nothing over the top but like the nose, bourbon, chocolate (bitter and milk). Soft bitterness on the finish...nice and long lasting.

Mouthfeel is odd. I get a touch of carb but really pretty flat. Somewhat syrupy and despite being mostly flat I kinda like the mouthfeel.

I would absolutely drink this again. A great beer that makes me think I should change my preconceptions of flat beer. Enjoyed very much.

GoGriz, May 21, 2011
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4.22/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge Thanks to SeaBass Bottle 723 of 2483

A: Pours a nice dark black hue. Small tan head which dies to a tight ring. Spotty lace.

S: Mild aromas really for a RIS. Smokey, peaty, and charred. Deeply roasted malt, chocolate, mild dark fruit.

T: Wonderful rich flavors. Earthy, lightly peated with hints of smoke. Chocolate and coffee are there with hints of booze.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Very good, tasty brew, one I am honored to have tried.

tpd975, Jul 08, 2010
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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 66 ratings.