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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

67 Ratings
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Ratings: 67
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.29
pDev: 8.16%
Wants: 32
Gots: 13 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010)
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Photo of Sammy
4.18/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

Sammy, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of spycow
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

spycow, Oct 03, 2014
Photo of Thorpe429
4.47/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Eric for bringing this bottle out. Served alongside the regular version and the Wild Turkey version. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours nearly-black with a very thin mocha head that froths up momentarily and then disappears quite quickly. The nose is really creamy and almost buttery, but in a good way. Loads of chocolate and really smooth. Moderate barrel character lingers in the background, though it's not overpowering. Light oak and some vanilla. The flavor is bursting with a creamy chocolate character with some very light roast and nice barrel character. Medium body and incredibly smooth. No detectable alcohol. This was the winner for me.

Thorpe429, May 14, 2011
Photo of Texasfan549
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

Texasfan549, Jun 09, 2013
Photo of BEERchitect
4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

As I found the standard Hel & Verdoemenis a little rough around the edges and somewhat underwhelming- these more mature bourbon barrel aged versions suffer no such claim. They are stellar in every way!

Onyx black and with a deep mirror-like sheen, the beer opens with an abyss of darkness and a slowly bubbling calderon of bubbles. Its broken sand-stained skirt across the glass diminishes to a collar before finally standing firm.

Musky malt aromas are nutty, roasty, chocolaty, and molasses-heavy. Bourbon soaked oak gives up its heavenly scent with caramel, vanilla, cherries and figs. Spicy with the unmistakable booze notes of Bourbon- the overall scent is of "bourbon ball" candies that are well known throughout central Kentucky.

The first sip weaves together the taste of chocolate and figs for a decadent bittersweet, stone fruit character that captivates the palate thereon. Brewing up from the depths of taste come espresso, walnut, black strap molasses, fudge and cocoa. Red grape, dates, raisins and cherries reel in a savory dark fruit character that hinges on sherry and port. But alas, the bourbon identity is reinforced with all that oak and caramel to finish the beer's taste.

Full bodied, but not recklessly so. A shot at drinkability is achieved by its short carbonation and vinous acidity that cuts through the malt. Alcohol thinning aids with the viscosity while warming its finish. Dry campfire ash tries to limit the aftertaste, but the long bourbon and fudge fights through all that for a lingering savory sweetness.

Strong and seductive, this is a masterful ale that understates its complexity. Its sensible balance and body requires a sophisticated palate to understand and appreciate as much of its nuances are well melded and modestly boastful.

BEERchitect, Jul 26, 2013
Photo of kjkinsey
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

kjkinsey, Jun 09, 2013
Photo of Phyl21ca
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a pitch-black color stout with a very thin dirty brown bubbly head with minimal retention and not lacing. Aroma of well balanced roasted malt light lactic notes and warming scotch notes. Taste is also a well balanced affair between some well rounded scotch notes and a full body stout with lactic notes and light dry black chocolate. Body is about average with very low carbonation and no apparent alcohol. So easily drinkable yet so tasty I wish I could have this on a regular basis.

Phyl21ca, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of ygtbsm94
4/5  rDev -6.8%

ygtbsm94, Feb 11, 2012
Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
4.25/5  rDev -0.9%

westcoastbeerlvr, Mar 29, 2012
Photo of JAHMUR
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

JAHMUR, Nov 18, 2011
Photo of largadeer
4.28/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Alfrantzell shared this one, thanks Arne.

Pitch black and surprisingly more carbonated than the bottle of regular Hel & Verdoemenis I drank a few months back. Rich chocolatey aroma, barrel aging is evident, lending notes of vanilla, musty wood, toasted oak, a little nuttiness and anise. The flavors are nicely rounded, dark chocolate, vanilla, biscuit, anise and blackened malt. The body is rich and full, the finish tannic and roasty. Another great De Molen beer.

largadeer, Sep 28, 2010
Photo of MasterSki
4.38/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle from Jeffo. Served in Hill farmstead stemware.

A - Quick-dissolving tan foam settles to a thin collar, wisps, and a very dark brown body.

S - Sweet, biscuit and milk chocolate malts, caramel, vanilla, light oak, hints of smoke, and umami, and an increasing bourbon presence as the beer warms.

T - Taste is quite similar to the H&V Wild Turkey (which is part of this blend). An enjoyable melange of bourbon, smoke, toasted biscuits, chocolate, and a touch of umami. Barrel is more forward, with sweeter malt characters appearing in the finish. Well-hidden alcohol.

M - Smooth, medium-full body, with pleasant lower carbonation. Light tannic in the finish, with some residual stickiness. Not much alcohol warmth.

D - Definitely one of the strongest H&V variants - I prefer this one to the new Wild Turkey release. That being said, the differences are quite subtle. The nip bottle was greatly enjoyed and I found myself wishing this was a larger bottle.

MasterSki, Jun 29, 2012
Photo of drabmuh
4.2/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was my second favorite although it was close for me for first place.

Beer is black with almost no head, lower carbonation than the parent beer and no lacing to speak of.

The nose is nicer than the original too. Sweeter, less roasty, mostly a clean, smooth, chocolate, mildly vanillic, oakiness to it. More yeast character in this version too.

This one was balanced and mild overall, the creaminess of the mouthfeel was the most incredible thing about it. The barrel aging character seemed a bit muted to me though. Something about this one, I wasn't expecting them to be "in my face" but a little more aggressive wouldn't have been a bad thing. I want to taste the barrel more is what I'm saying and I missed out slightly here. This is why it came in second for me.

drabmuh, May 16, 2011
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2010
The beer pours with a creamy, light browned head that gets large bubbled as it recedes. The beer itself is a dark, black to concentrated brown color. The beer smells up front of Bourbon like notes, then a nutty note, some touches of soy sauce somehow, a touch of mocha, toasted coconut and a big vanillin note in the finish. The nose definitely has some nice complexity to it.

The beer is somewhat sweet tasting, though not overly so and it finishes with a bit bourbon note that doesn't quite get hot, but also has a somewhat fruity and raisin like flavor to it. Oaky notes of fresh cut wood, oak-spice character, lots of vanillin and a slightly buttery oak notes are all found here. There are also notes of sherry that gets a bit nutty and even accentuates a hint of cherry in the flavor. This is definitely an interesting beer, but it doesn't quite hit the mark for me somehow.

Gueuzedude, Dec 27, 2010
Photo of kojevergas
3.98/5  rDev -7.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

18cl bottle served into a La Chouffe 25th anniversary tulip in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of beautiful tan colour, excellent cream lacing, lovely thickness, and bad retention (though the high ABV ought to be considered as a defense). Solid black colour; nontransparent. Very appealing.

Sm: A moderate strength scent of coffee, cream, chocolate, toffee, truffle, caramel, and maybe vanilla. Complex and nicely done. Not musty or old.

T: All of the notes on the nose brilliantly balanced together, and coming through fully on the climax. Incredibly well built for the style. The hops are layered instead of merely meshed, and they stack brilliantly against eachother, none dominating and all cooperating for the flavour. Amazing and brilliant. There's not too much caramel as I feared. The alcohol hardly comes through at all.

Mf: Delicately smooth and wet. I wish it were a bit more dry and coarse, but the silky smoothness is welcome alongside the exquisite balance of flavour in the body.

Dr: Very high ABV, fair price (in Amsterdam), and very easy drinking. An incredible beer anyone serious about beer would really enjoy. As a stout lover, I quite fancy it. Serve cold.

kojevergas, Jun 30, 2011
Photo of biegaman
4.31/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.25

Most barrel-aged beers end up looking like death dug up but Hel & Verdoemenis Misto, which is aged in Wild Turkey bourbon barrels, has retained a lot of its sleek black marble complexion (despite the best efforts of some sneaky and nasty-thick sediment). Its head, however, is another story; not even swirling can resuscitate that.

The beer smells like dark chocolate-covered cigars. It is terribly rich and intricate, but if we were to overlook all the subtle complexities we'd end up with a particularly vanilla-rich black forest cake. But bourbon barrels being what they are it's impossible to make things so simple - I'd have to hire a private detective to uncover all the flavours of this bouquet.

Hel & Verdoemenis is a pretty substantial stout in its own right; it boasts notes of bakers chocolate, teriyaki barbecue, french vanilla ice cream, blackberry jam, and coffee grounds. But to age even such a tall and broad beer in bourbon barrels is akin to slathering lettuce leaf in cream sauce - it won't hold up, one flavour is simply bigger than the other.

Fortunately, in the course of dominating, the charred oak and cigar smoke notes of the bourbon don't completely obliterate the roast maltiness or too much of its dark chocolate and coffee undertones. It makes no qualms about its strength but it is composed; give yourself a lot of time to drink this one (but rest assured you'll enjoy every minute of it).

I've had bourbon-barrel aged beers that taste like heaven... and others that drink like failed suicide. Hel & Verdoemenis ("Hell & Damnation") Misto, contrary to what its name suggests, is definitely a product of the angels; it is a divine, nuanced taste that blends Kentucky's barrels with barley's richest, roastiest flavours. Right on par with the 666, arguably even better.

biegaman, Mar 15, 2014
Photo of liamt07
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%

liamt07, Dec 13, 2013
Photo of drummermattie02
4/5  rDev -6.8%

drummermattie02, Jun 24, 2013
Photo of jrallen34
4.03/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

18cl bottle poured into my Bruery tulip...Black pour with very little carbonation, not much lacing or much to look at...The aroma is too light can't pull much out. However, I get some really nice vanilla and bourbon coming through, little too much alcohol. Light char as it warms on the finish, pretty interesting and yummy...The taste is pretty good and similar to the aroma, just not as successful. More alcohol comes through, and light vanilla. Not enough coffee or chocolate or bitterness to balance this out. Additionally, the feel is light and not as full as I want in a stout, affects my enjoyment of the taste.

jrallen34, Dec 09, 2010
Photo of DefenCorps
4.33/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison, alongside the regular and Wild Turkey versions (shared by Thorpe429). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is great. Vanilla, bourbon, a little oak, some chocolate liqueur, a little espresso and a nice, boozy bite, this is an excellent -bal stout The palate opens mildly boozy and rather oaky with some astringency. Caramel, fruit and cocoa are present, along with some espresso. Medium-full in body with low carbonation, this is a very enjoyable RIS.

DefenCorps, May 18, 2011
Photo of eawolff99
4/5  rDev -6.8%

eawolff99, Jun 14, 2012
Photo of kscaldef
4/5  rDev -6.8%

kscaldef, Jul 11, 2013
Photo of tectactoe
3.8/5  rDev -11.4%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Misto BA barrel version of this brew looks the same as the last version we cracked (666): black and black with some deep, brown trim and almost no head that rises up, rather just a tan ring that sits pretty still at the outer edge of the glass.

The aroma is somewhat similar, too, complete with good amounts of deep cocoa, booze, and a touch of coffee beans. I will say that the levels of roast in this brew seem a little larger than the 666 variant; darker roast and more oily coffee beans. Bourbon traces and outlines the entire profile, making this beer smell every bit as big as 12% ABV, and then some.

Mild bourbon and soaked oak crash on the tongue with a good amount of sweet cocoa and some smooth, roasted malt. I have to say, the chocolate character is the Misto variant is quite a bit bigger on the palate than the 666 variant. The bourbon presence is nice and heavy as well, giving a commanding warmth in the back of the throat and turning this beer into a definite slow sipper.

Back-end dry cocoa, a touch of coffee, toast, oak, and lots of bourbon in the finish. The body isn't as thick or chewy as the flavors, and therefore the mouth feel is maybe just a bit of a letdown here. A little more viscosity would do this brew some good; the mild carbonation keeps things smooth, but I can't help but think that it's a touch too thin for the style.

The Misto barrel-aged version of Hel & Verdoemenis unfortunately exhibits a little bit of the same thing that I didn't love about the 666 variant - it's just a bit too bourbon forward and not quite complex enough to really pique my interest. Don't get me wrong, it's a good beer, but I don't think it's quite worth the extreme praise it receives, or at least not this variant. I did like this one just a *bit* better than 666, though.

tectactoe, Jul 30, 2013
Photo of whartontallboy
4/5  rDev -6.8%

whartontallboy, Jun 24, 2012
Photo of woosterbill
4.65/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Nip, brewed '09 bottled '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Huge thanks to the ever-generous Knifestyles for sharing this elusive, exciting brew.

A: Clear dark brown body, completely still. Mediocre.

S: Rich, smooth, and amazing. The smoky intensity of the base beer lends serious character, but is beautifully mellowed out by vanilla + toffee sweetness, as well as some oak and smooth bourbon. Just a lovely BA stout.

T: Follows the nose perfectly, with both powerful and finesse. Fabulous balance of booze and malt, sweetness and richness. Delicious.

M: Full, sticky body; no real carbonation. Not enough life to stand up to the power of the flavor.

O: What a tasty beer. This one is proof that carbonation isn't necessary to create a beautifully tasty barrel-aged beer. Yeah, it would have been more enjoyable overall if it had been carbonated (and it certainly would have been more drinkable, but that doesn't get counted anymore), but the flavors transcend everything else to make this a wonderful experience. I feel so lucky to have gotten to try this rare and delicious beer.

Cheers!

woosterbill, Mar 22, 2011
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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 67 ratings.