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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

71 Ratings
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Ratings: 71
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.28
pDev: 8.18%
Wants: 34
Gots: 14 | FT: 2
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010)
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Photo of JAHMUR
4.5/5  rDev +5.1%

Photo of joshclauss
4.85/5  rDev +13.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 5

Poured from a teeny, tiny bottle that still said "750 ml" on the label. Looks like a bit of an oversight, since this bottle could not have been more than 8 oz. Hat tip to the Doodler for sharing.

Brewed July 23, 2009
Bottled June 8, 2010
Bottle No. 2364 of 2483

This beer pours what seemed like a slightly darker brown than regular Hel & V, but same as the original, not even a hint of head. Not the best looking beer out there, but that's not really the point, is it?

You get a lot of the alcohol on the nose, but also a slight tartness that is not present in regular Hel & Verdoemenis. There is a lot of spice and oak that takes center stage.

The flavor on this thing is really strong vanilla and oak, typical of whiskey barrel-aged beers, but this one takes it to a new level. The flavors are so defined and not overpowered by the beer. The Hel & V plays so well off the barrels, producing a strong caramelized raisin flavor with the same sharp bitterness that really cuts through the sweetness. It's heavy in the mouth, but the alcohol content rounds out the beer and helps it slide down far too easily.

What a fantastic beer. Not that this is surprising, but it just proves how many beers are begging for barrel treatment. The Wild Turkey barrels provide that really classic bourbon barrel-aged flavor profile, and it's nice to have something that, even though it's called a stout, tastes more like a belgian strong dark that gets this treatment. Very glad to share it, thanks to the Doodler.

Photo of pkeigs
4.93/5  rDev +15.2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 5

I love Hel and Verdoemenis, and this version of it is just stunning. With a great base beer, barrel aging really accentuates the complexity.

Poured from a 5.5 ounce nip bottle, I really wish they would do this one in a 12 ounce waxed dip, the bottle gives you a few swallows. Luckily I also got to try on tap at De Molen during the 1st annual Borefts Festival, and even though Narke stole the show for me, it gave me such an appreciation for De Molen. I ended up searching this beer out multiple during my 9 months abroad.

Pours black, black black, with just a slight ring to show that it is carbonated. Looks lovely in my De Molen glass.

Smells amazing, the thing I love about the base beer is how earthy it is, no citrus hops used here. The barrel aged version is fantastic, notes of vanilla, earth, dark chocolate, bourbon, coffee, espresso, caramel, dark fruit, I could go on and on.

Tastes fantastic, just so balanced, lots of earthy, chocolate notes, slight vanilla from the barrel and a little bit of booziness that I don't pick out from the regular version. The finish just seems to last, and last and last. Great complexity.

Only thing that makes this score less than a perfect 5 is the mouthfeel, it is not as thick as some of the great stouts I have had, it is oily, but just doesn't coat my mouth as well. A fantastic beer that I would like to cellar, just so hard to get here in the States...

Photo of kojevergas
3.98/5  rDev -7%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

18cl bottle served into a La Chouffe 25th anniversary tulip in Amsterdam, The Netherlands. Reviewed live.

A: Pours a one finger head of beautiful tan colour, excellent cream lacing, lovely thickness, and bad retention (though the high ABV ought to be considered as a defense). Solid black colour; nontransparent. Very appealing.

Sm: A moderate strength scent of coffee, cream, chocolate, toffee, truffle, caramel, and maybe vanilla. Complex and nicely done. Not musty or old.

T: All of the notes on the nose brilliantly balanced together, and coming through fully on the climax. Incredibly well built for the style. The hops are layered instead of merely meshed, and they stack brilliantly against eachother, none dominating and all cooperating for the flavour. Amazing and brilliant. There's not too much caramel as I feared. The alcohol hardly comes through at all.

Mf: Delicately smooth and wet. I wish it were a bit more dry and coarse, but the silky smoothness is welcome alongside the exquisite balance of flavour in the body.

Dr: Very high ABV, fair price (in Amsterdam), and very easy drinking. An incredible beer anyone serious about beer would really enjoy. As a stout lover, I quite fancy it. Serve cold.

Photo of GoGriz
4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 2 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeff for this!

Lazy Saturday and I was tempted by this tiny bottle sitting in the cellar. Bottle number 2212, brewed in 09 and bottled in 10.

The pour is unimpressive and I wasn't aware that this stout is nearly flat. I give it a good swirl to coax out a head but to no avail. It sits in the glass, cola brown, and I wonder how this beer could be good after the pour.

WHOA! The nose is great! Cocoa, bourbon (although really soft) and other chocolate scents come through. Really nice.

Taste is also impressive. Great integration of flavors. Nothing over the top but like the nose, bourbon, chocolate (bitter and milk). Soft bitterness on the finish...nice and long lasting.

Mouthfeel is odd. I get a touch of carb but really pretty flat. Somewhat syrupy and despite being mostly flat I kinda like the mouthfeel.

I would absolutely drink this again. A great beer that makes me think I should change my preconceptions of flat beer. Enjoyed very much.

Photo of DefenCorps
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison, alongside the regular and Wild Turkey versions (shared by Thorpe429). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is great. Vanilla, bourbon, a little oak, some chocolate liqueur, a little espresso and a nice, boozy bite, this is an excellent -bal stout The palate opens mildly boozy and rather oaky with some astringency. Caramel, fruit and cocoa are present, along with some espresso. Medium-full in body with low carbonation, this is a very enjoyable RIS.

Photo of drabmuh
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was my second favorite although it was close for me for first place.

Beer is black with almost no head, lower carbonation than the parent beer and no lacing to speak of.

The nose is nicer than the original too. Sweeter, less roasty, mostly a clean, smooth, chocolate, mildly vanillic, oakiness to it. More yeast character in this version too.

This one was balanced and mild overall, the creaminess of the mouthfeel was the most incredible thing about it. The barrel aging character seemed a bit muted to me though. Something about this one, I wasn't expecting them to be "in my face" but a little more aggressive wouldn't have been a bad thing. I want to taste the barrel more is what I'm saying and I missed out slightly here. This is why it came in second for me.

Photo of Thorpe429
4.47/5  rDev +4.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Eric for bringing this bottle out. Served alongside the regular version and the Wild Turkey version. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours nearly-black with a very thin mocha head that froths up momentarily and then disappears quite quickly. The nose is really creamy and almost buttery, but in a good way. Loads of chocolate and really smooth. Moderate barrel character lingers in the background, though it's not overpowering. Light oak and some vanilla. The flavor is bursting with a creamy chocolate character with some very light roast and nice barrel character. Medium body and incredibly smooth. No detectable alcohol. This was the winner for me.

Photo of psiweaver
4.3/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into a Bruery Tulip

A: pours hazey brown with not really any carbonation. no head as a result.

S: nice smokey smell with notes of vanilla oak and roasted toffee.

T: fantastic rich taste with bourbon vanilla smokeyness and complex malts. very well balanced and very tasty.

M nicely integrated alcohol could really just use some carbonation to make this perfect.

overall absolutely worth seeking out.

Photo of woosterbill
4.65/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Nip, brewed '09 bottled '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Huge thanks to the ever-generous Knifestyles for sharing this elusive, exciting brew.

A: Clear dark brown body, completely still. Mediocre.

S: Rich, smooth, and amazing. The smoky intensity of the base beer lends serious character, but is beautifully mellowed out by vanilla + toffee sweetness, as well as some oak and smooth bourbon. Just a lovely BA stout.

T: Follows the nose perfectly, with both powerful and finesse. Fabulous balance of booze and malt, sweetness and richness. Delicious.

M: Full, sticky body; no real carbonation. Not enough life to stand up to the power of the flavor.

O: What a tasty beer. This one is proof that carbonation isn't necessary to create a beautifully tasty barrel-aged beer. Yeah, it would have been more enjoyable overall if it had been carbonated (and it certainly would have been more drinkable, but that doesn't get counted anymore), but the flavors transcend everything else to make this a wonderful experience. I feel so lucky to have gotten to try this rare and delicious beer.

Cheers!

Photo of dasenebler
4.08/5  rDev -4.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

18cl green bottle, wax sealed. No. 1213, bottled on June 8, 2010.

Pours a thick dark brown with rosy highlights, appears black in glass. Small oily wisps of foam, but no head really.

The aroma is outstanding, with fat roasty notes, big alcohol, dates and chocolate fudge.

Tasty stout. Lightly sweet, with actually a hefty hop bitterness on the back. Dark chocolate and highly kilned coffee. The Bourbon notes are there, but with more of healthy oakiness than an in-you-face whiskey character. Maybe the vanillin could be amped up a bit, but otherwise this is a very pleasant beer. The mouthfeel is thick and oily, but the carbonation is practically non-existent. Though I like my big stouts and barleywines with fewer bubbles, this one could use a touch more effervescence.

Really good beer, well-balanced. My only complaint is really the tiny size of this bottle; it goes way too fast. A 33cl would be perfect.

Photo of STEG
4.2/5  rDev -1.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A special thanks to Jeffo for trading this with me.

18cl green bottle with green silly putty.

As the cap is pried off I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best and as I hear a hiss I am relieved. 4/6 in carbonation De Molen, you're getting much better.

Pours pitch black, as one would expect from a variant of hel and verdoemenis, what little head that is produced from a straight down pour is soon lost and it just kinda sits there slightly bubbling...Not appealing, not unappealing...

Smell has light bourbon, burnt sugar, toffee, black coffee, and raisin notes.

Taste begins very sweet with bourbon and vanilla up front and then proceeds to move into showing its true base beer's colors with chocolate, coffee, and smoke and finishes with an earthy bitter hop bite.

Mouthfeel is smooth, warming and viscous with just enough carbonation to take the monotony out of it.

12oz wouldn't hurt, I kinda get depressed at how little these 18cl bottles hole. A 750 of this would be tough to get through but a 12oz would be perfect. The alcohol presence and somewhat intense mouthfeel make this a bit far off from sessionable.

Photo of Sammy
4.18/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev -15.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2010
The beer pours with a creamy, light browned head that gets large bubbled as it recedes. The beer itself is a dark, black to concentrated brown color. The beer smells up front of Bourbon like notes, then a nutty note, some touches of soy sauce somehow, a touch of mocha, toasted coconut and a big vanillin note in the finish. The nose definitely has some nice complexity to it.

The beer is somewhat sweet tasting, though not overly so and it finishes with a bit bourbon note that doesn't quite get hot, but also has a somewhat fruity and raisin like flavor to it. Oaky notes of fresh cut wood, oak-spice character, lots of vanillin and a slightly buttery oak notes are all found here. There are also notes of sherry that gets a bit nutty and even accentuates a hint of cherry in the flavor. This is definitely an interesting beer, but it doesn't quite hit the mark for me somehow.

Photo of jrallen34
4.03/5  rDev -5.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

18cl bottle poured into my Bruery tulip...Black pour with very little carbonation, not much lacing or much to look at...The aroma is too light can't pull much out. However, I get some really nice vanilla and bourbon coming through, little too much alcohol. Light char as it warms on the finish, pretty interesting and yummy...The taste is pretty good and similar to the aroma, just not as successful. More alcohol comes through, and light vanilla. Not enough coffee or chocolate or bitterness to balance this out. Additionally, the feel is light and not as full as I want in a stout, affects my enjoyment of the taste.

Photo of baggio
4.35/5  rDev +1.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle@Home

A: Darkish brown with a , wee, beige head.

S: Bourbon, Caramel, Roasted malts, Hint of overripe fruit.

T: Liqorice, Vanilla, Chocolate, Dark caramel, Portwine and a hint of alcohol.

M: Velvety smooth with an edge of bitterness and alcohol. Low carbonation.

This is a fine stout from Herr Menno. Very smooth and highly drinkable. I would wish for a little more residual sweetness and a wee bit more body but other than that this is superb. Impressive.

Photo of JAXSON
4.15/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a small snifter. Black with a thin mocha head that settles to a ring. Nose is ashy, smoke, a bit of anise, charcoal, dry baker's chocolate. Very nice, I love that ash quality in a barrel aged imperial stout. Nice, prickly carbonation in the mouth. At first a bit sweet, anise, licorice. Segues into that oak and charcoal. Dusty. Wow, I love it. Boozy and hot, but of course that's to be expected. A complete win on the marriage of anise and ash, my two favorite qualities for a barrel aged stout. Some astringent quality that may go hand in hand with the heat hurts the finish a bit.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.5/5  rDev +5.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a pitch-black color stout with a very thin dirty brown bubbly head with minimal retention and not lacing. Aroma of well balanced roasted malt light lactic notes and warming scotch notes. Taste is also a well balanced affair between some well rounded scotch notes and a full body stout with lactic notes and light dry black chocolate. Body is about average with very low carbonation and no apparent alcohol. So easily drinkable yet so tasty I wish I could have this on a regular basis.

Photo of largadeer
4.28/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Alfrantzell shared this one, thanks Arne.

Pitch black and surprisingly more carbonated than the bottle of regular Hel & Verdoemenis I drank a few months back. Rich chocolatey aroma, barrel aging is evident, lending notes of vanilla, musty wood, toasted oak, a little nuttiness and anise. The flavors are nicely rounded, dark chocolate, vanilla, biscuit, anise and blackened malt. The body is rich and full, the finish tannic and roasty. Another great De Molen beer.

Photo of Jeffo
4.33/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another one-off from De Molen. Even if they don't all work out wonderfully, I really appreciate their drive to experiment. This one worked out beautifully.

Found this at The Cracked Kettle in Amsterdam.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifer.
Brewed 23 July 2009 and bottled 08 June 2010.
Bottle 1058 of 2483.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and produces a small mocha colored head that quickly fades to a wisp and ring. Black body with zero carbonation evident. A slight ring remains with a nice swirling wisp but leaves no lacing down the glass. Looks nice.

SMELL: Roasted malts, with some nice bourbon and vanilla notes from the barrel. Some coffee notes with dark chocolate and booze in there as well. A big nose on this one, and smells very nice.

TASTE: Lots of roasted malts, vanilla and bourbon, as well as coffee and bitter chocolate in the taste profile. Some caramel sweetness and boozy elements make an appearance as well. A long, bold aftertaste of bitter coffee, chocolate, bourbon and some burnt, roasted malt as well. A treat.

PALATE: Medium body and lower end carbonation. Creamy on the palate, goes down slightly prickly with s small burn at the back, and finishes nicely mouth-coating. Very nice indeed, but a bit of a heavier burn for my liking.

OVERALL: A great barrel aged stout, and you can definitely taste the resemblance to the Wild Turkey BA. Very flavorful and enjoyable, and just the right amount of carbonation to bring it to life. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the base beer, but this aged version was a real treat. Give it a try if you get the chance.

Photo of tpd975
4.22/5  rDev -1.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge Thanks to SeaBass Bottle 723 of 2483

A: Pours a nice dark black hue. Small tan head which dies to a tight ring. Spotty lace.

S: Mild aromas really for a RIS. Smokey, peaty, and charred. Deeply roasted malt, chocolate, mild dark fruit.

T: Wonderful rich flavors. Earthy, lightly peated with hints of smoke. Chocolate and coffee are there with hints of booze.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Very good, tasty brew, one I am honored to have tried.

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 71 ratings.