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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

65 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 65
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.29
pDev: 8.16%
Wants: 32
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  12.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: tpd975 on 07-08-2010)
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Photo of drabmuh
4.2/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by TurdFurgison recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Wild Turkey versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was my second favorite although it was close for me for first place.

Beer is black with almost no head, lower carbonation than the parent beer and no lacing to speak of.

The nose is nicer than the original too. Sweeter, less roasty, mostly a clean, smooth, chocolate, mildly vanillic, oakiness to it. More yeast character in this version too.

This one was balanced and mild overall, the creaminess of the mouthfeel was the most incredible thing about it. The barrel aging character seemed a bit muted to me though. Something about this one, I wasn't expecting them to be "in my face" but a little more aggressive wouldn't have been a bad thing. I want to taste the barrel more is what I'm saying and I missed out slightly here. This is why it came in second for me.

drabmuh, May 16, 2011
Photo of Thorpe429
4.47/5  rDev +4.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Huge thanks to Eric for bringing this bottle out. Served alongside the regular version and the Wild Turkey version. Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours nearly-black with a very thin mocha head that froths up momentarily and then disappears quite quickly. The nose is really creamy and almost buttery, but in a good way. Loads of chocolate and really smooth. Moderate barrel character lingers in the background, though it's not overpowering. Light oak and some vanilla. The flavor is bursting with a creamy chocolate character with some very light roast and nice barrel character. Medium body and incredibly smooth. No detectable alcohol. This was the winner for me.

Thorpe429, May 14, 2011
Photo of psiweaver
4.3/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

poured into a Bruery Tulip

A: pours hazey brown with not really any carbonation. no head as a result.

S: nice smokey smell with notes of vanilla oak and roasted toffee.

T: fantastic rich taste with bourbon vanilla smokeyness and complex malts. very well balanced and very tasty.

M nicely integrated alcohol could really just use some carbonation to make this perfect.

overall absolutely worth seeking out.

psiweaver, Apr 17, 2011
Photo of woosterbill
4.65/5  rDev +8.4%
look: 3 | smell: 5 | taste: 5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Nip, brewed '09 bottled '10, into a Birra del Borgo tulip. Huge thanks to the ever-generous Knifestyles for sharing this elusive, exciting brew.

A: Clear dark brown body, completely still. Mediocre.

S: Rich, smooth, and amazing. The smoky intensity of the base beer lends serious character, but is beautifully mellowed out by vanilla + toffee sweetness, as well as some oak and smooth bourbon. Just a lovely BA stout.

T: Follows the nose perfectly, with both powerful and finesse. Fabulous balance of booze and malt, sweetness and richness. Delicious.

M: Full, sticky body; no real carbonation. Not enough life to stand up to the power of the flavor.

O: What a tasty beer. This one is proof that carbonation isn't necessary to create a beautifully tasty barrel-aged beer. Yeah, it would have been more enjoyable overall if it had been carbonated (and it certainly would have been more drinkable, but that doesn't get counted anymore), but the flavors transcend everything else to make this a wonderful experience. I feel so lucky to have gotten to try this rare and delicious beer.

Cheers!

woosterbill, Mar 22, 2011
Photo of dasenebler
4.08/5  rDev -4.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

18cl green bottle, wax sealed. No. 1213, bottled on June 8, 2010.

Pours a thick dark brown with rosy highlights, appears black in glass. Small oily wisps of foam, but no head really.

The aroma is outstanding, with fat roasty notes, big alcohol, dates and chocolate fudge.

Tasty stout. Lightly sweet, with actually a hefty hop bitterness on the back. Dark chocolate and highly kilned coffee. The Bourbon notes are there, but with more of healthy oakiness than an in-you-face whiskey character. Maybe the vanillin could be amped up a bit, but otherwise this is a very pleasant beer. The mouthfeel is thick and oily, but the carbonation is practically non-existent. Though I like my big stouts and barleywines with fewer bubbles, this one could use a touch more effervescence.

Really good beer, well-balanced. My only complaint is really the tiny size of this bottle; it goes way too fast. A 33cl would be perfect.

dasenebler, Mar 11, 2011
Photo of STEG
4.2/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

A special thanks to Jeffo for trading this with me.

18cl green bottle with green silly putty.

As the cap is pried off I'm expecting the worst but hoping for the best and as I hear a hiss I am relieved. 4/6 in carbonation De Molen, you're getting much better.

Pours pitch black, as one would expect from a variant of hel and verdoemenis, what little head that is produced from a straight down pour is soon lost and it just kinda sits there slightly bubbling...Not appealing, not unappealing...

Smell has light bourbon, burnt sugar, toffee, black coffee, and raisin notes.

Taste begins very sweet with bourbon and vanilla up front and then proceeds to move into showing its true base beer's colors with chocolate, coffee, and smoke and finishes with an earthy bitter hop bite.

Mouthfeel is smooth, warming and viscous with just enough carbonation to take the monotony out of it.

12oz wouldn't hurt, I kinda get depressed at how little these 18cl bottles hole. A 750 of this would be tough to get through but a 12oz would be perfect. The alcohol presence and somewhat intense mouthfeel make this a bit far off from sessionable.

STEG, Jan 30, 2011
Photo of Sammy
4.18/5  rDev -2.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Making a great beer better is Wild Turkey, New Austin, and charred bourbon barrels. The barrel ageing gave it a rich bourbon and chocolate aroma. Black as night with only a whisp of a head. Some lace down the glass. Carbonation right there, bitterness right there, and finish with a little sour mash. Rich tasty imperial stout chocolate and coffee, well hopped. Drying at the very end. Bottle 385 of 2483. Good for another 24.5 years.

Sammy, Jan 17, 2011
Photo of Gueuzedude
3.6/5  rDev -16.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Sampled July 2010
The beer pours with a creamy, light browned head that gets large bubbled as it recedes. The beer itself is a dark, black to concentrated brown color. The beer smells up front of Bourbon like notes, then a nutty note, some touches of soy sauce somehow, a touch of mocha, toasted coconut and a big vanillin note in the finish. The nose definitely has some nice complexity to it.

The beer is somewhat sweet tasting, though not overly so and it finishes with a bit bourbon note that doesn't quite get hot, but also has a somewhat fruity and raisin like flavor to it. Oaky notes of fresh cut wood, oak-spice character, lots of vanillin and a slightly buttery oak notes are all found here. There are also notes of sherry that gets a bit nutty and even accentuates a hint of cherry in the flavor. This is definitely an interesting beer, but it doesn't quite hit the mark for me somehow.

Gueuzedude, Dec 27, 2010
Photo of jrallen34
4.03/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

18cl bottle poured into my Bruery tulip...Black pour with very little carbonation, not much lacing or much to look at...The aroma is too light can't pull much out. However, I get some really nice vanilla and bourbon coming through, little too much alcohol. Light char as it warms on the finish, pretty interesting and yummy...The taste is pretty good and similar to the aroma, just not as successful. More alcohol comes through, and light vanilla. Not enough coffee or chocolate or bitterness to balance this out. Additionally, the feel is light and not as full as I want in a stout, affects my enjoyment of the taste.

jrallen34, Dec 09, 2010
Photo of baggio
4.35/5  rDev +1.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle@Home

A: Darkish brown with a , wee, beige head.

S: Bourbon, Caramel, Roasted malts, Hint of overripe fruit.

T: Liqorice, Vanilla, Chocolate, Dark caramel, Portwine and a hint of alcohol.

M: Velvety smooth with an edge of bitterness and alcohol. Low carbonation.

This is a fine stout from Herr Menno. Very smooth and highly drinkable. I would wish for a little more residual sweetness and a wee bit more body but other than that this is superb. Impressive.

baggio, Nov 30, 2010
Photo of JAXSON
4.15/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle poured into a small snifter. Black with a thin mocha head that settles to a ring. Nose is ashy, smoke, a bit of anise, charcoal, dry baker's chocolate. Very nice, I love that ash quality in a barrel aged imperial stout. Nice, prickly carbonation in the mouth. At first a bit sweet, anise, licorice. Segues into that oak and charcoal. Dusty. Wow, I love it. Boozy and hot, but of course that's to be expected. A complete win on the marriage of anise and ash, my two favorite qualities for a barrel aged stout. Some astringent quality that may go hand in hand with the heat hurts the finish a bit.

JAXSON, Nov 29, 2010
Photo of Phyl21ca
4.5/5  rDev +4.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a pitch-black color stout with a very thin dirty brown bubbly head with minimal retention and not lacing. Aroma of well balanced roasted malt light lactic notes and warming scotch notes. Taste is also a well balanced affair between some well rounded scotch notes and a full body stout with lactic notes and light dry black chocolate. Body is about average with very low carbonation and no apparent alcohol. So easily drinkable yet so tasty I wish I could have this on a regular basis.

Phyl21ca, Oct 04, 2010
Photo of largadeer
4.28/5  rDev -0.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Alfrantzell shared this one, thanks Arne.

Pitch black and surprisingly more carbonated than the bottle of regular Hel & Verdoemenis I drank a few months back. Rich chocolatey aroma, barrel aging is evident, lending notes of vanilla, musty wood, toasted oak, a little nuttiness and anise. The flavors are nicely rounded, dark chocolate, vanilla, biscuit, anise and blackened malt. The body is rich and full, the finish tannic and roasty. Another great De Molen beer.

largadeer, Sep 28, 2010
Photo of Jeffo
4.33/5  rDev +0.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Another one-off from De Molen. Even if they don't all work out wonderfully, I really appreciate their drive to experiment. This one worked out beautifully.

Found this at The Cracked Kettle in Amsterdam.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifer.
Brewed 23 July 2009 and bottled 08 June 2010.
Bottle 1058 of 2483.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: Pours out black and produces a small mocha colored head that quickly fades to a wisp and ring. Black body with zero carbonation evident. A slight ring remains with a nice swirling wisp but leaves no lacing down the glass. Looks nice.

SMELL: Roasted malts, with some nice bourbon and vanilla notes from the barrel. Some coffee notes with dark chocolate and booze in there as well. A big nose on this one, and smells very nice.

TASTE: Lots of roasted malts, vanilla and bourbon, as well as coffee and bitter chocolate in the taste profile. Some caramel sweetness and boozy elements make an appearance as well. A long, bold aftertaste of bitter coffee, chocolate, bourbon and some burnt, roasted malt as well. A treat.

PALATE: Medium body and lower end carbonation. Creamy on the palate, goes down slightly prickly with s small burn at the back, and finishes nicely mouth-coating. Very nice indeed, but a bit of a heavier burn for my liking.

OVERALL: A great barrel aged stout, and you can definitely taste the resemblance to the Wild Turkey BA. Very flavorful and enjoyable, and just the right amount of carbonation to bring it to life. Admittedly I'm not a huge fan of the base beer, but this aged version was a real treat. Give it a try if you get the chance.

Jeffo, Jul 10, 2010
Photo of tpd975
4.22/5  rDev -1.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Huge Thanks to SeaBass Bottle 723 of 2483

A: Pours a nice dark black hue. Small tan head which dies to a tight ring. Spotty lace.

S: Mild aromas really for a RIS. Smokey, peaty, and charred. Deeply roasted malt, chocolate, mild dark fruit.

T: Wonderful rich flavors. Earthy, lightly peated with hints of smoke. Chocolate and coffee are there with hints of booze.

M: Medium in body, light carbonation.

D: Very good, tasty brew, one I am honored to have tried.

tpd975, Jul 08, 2010
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Hel & Verdoemenis Misto B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 65 ratings.