Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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88
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Ratings: 120
Reviews: 50
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 11.62%
Wants: 5
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
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Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010

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Ratings: 120 | Reviews: 50
Photo of qrazvan
4.25/5  rDev +7.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A strong dark beer, very aromatic (herbs and chocolate) with a hidden alcohol taste afterwards. Highly recommended esp. for dark beer lovers.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.63/5  rDev +16.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

this is flat out up there with the best beers i have ever had, despite the fact that its nothing like a quad, or at least not like any i have ever had. brewed in 2012 the bottle tells me, i havent seen much of this one around, but found it on a dusty shelf down in the springs, score for me, this was on sale for like six bucks, what a steal! more head than you can imagine on the pour, i mean, its fizzing and frothing like a science experiment gone out of control, and i struggle to not waste any of the beer, the cap almost popped itself. the nose intrigues me right away, bitter orange peel and compost and again a yeast strain i have never encountered all grab me in a compelling fashion. what is this? not a quad as i know them, i mean, its not thick and sweet or even belgian in the least. totally different yeast, totally different grain build, but this one is about the synergistic whole, not the individual elements. there is a flavor here on the edge of fruity that comes on right after the initial rush of bubbles hits the tongue, but before the yeasty intensity sets in, and i cant quite place it. candied orange peel seems too sweet and acidic, a baked good of some kind, even a breakfast confection seems to heavy, and describing it as floral or blooming or even alive just doesnt do it justice. its familiar but not in beer, and i am in love with it here. the carbonation makes this drink like a session beer, the alcohol is wildly confusing to me, as the beer is only medium bodied without all the bubbles, but light as heck with them, and there isnt a sharpness of any kind. not sure about the yeast identification, its foreign to me, but id clearly does wonderful things to this beer. if this is what quad is in the netherlands, im moving. its that moving for me really. one of the best beers i have ever had, and reaffirms my new found love for de molen!!! this mouthfeel in this style is unheard of, and even if it tasted just okay i would score it well for that, but the fact that its so one of a kind yet totally incredible make it elite if not in a world of its own.

Photo of SackBlabbath
4.9/5  rDev +23.7%
look: 4.75 | smell: 4.75 | taste: 5 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 5

A hell of a quad!

Photo of dcmchew
3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Really dark brown with just a bit of short-living off-white froth.
Smell of dark fruit jam, mostly raisin, date and some cherry, molasses, sweet dark malts, a bit of chocolate, a bit of alcohol, faint walnut.
Sweet dark fruit up front, bathed in molasses and caramel. Lots of raisin, fig, slightly sour cherries. A bit of citrus peel. Malts are toasty, bringing some chocolate, faint nut and dark bread crust. Nice and spicy, licorice, faint anise, teaming up with the warm alcohol in the finish and hinting strongly at Port wine. Light roast here too.
Medium body, almost flat, sticky. Aftertaste is still sweet, lingering molasses and some raisin, plus toasted dark bread.
A bit sweet, but a nice take on a quad. Really tasty, just a bit complex.

Photo of aleigator
2.34/5  rDev -40.9%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 2.25

Small, soon vanishing head, leaving a thin lacing at the glass, pours a dark brown, almost black color.
Smells of molasses, toffee, chocolate with hints of flowery hops - overall just very sweet.

Almost no carbonation at all, begins sweet, with toffee and toasted malts, accompanied by slightly bitter hops, which invites a gentle bitter chocolate note to the palate. A short alcohol bite enhances the bitterness, but from a different angle, numbing the tongue, which then gets overpowered by cane sugar and molasse - very, very sweet. Lacks balance, the sweetness is too dominant, without being pleasant on its own, no interaction or counterpart is detectable in this. Finishes with slick sweetness and burning alcohol down the throat.

Photo of beergoot
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Unique bottle label data: 13/02/2012

Thick, heavy, rocky head sitting atop a dark, garnet colored body. Heavy dark fruit aroma; dates and figs; caramel. The taste closely mirrors the the aroma with a stronger sugary sweetness lurking underneath. Heavy body with a lot of residual sugars present.

Rich and robust with a brazenly deep, dark sweetness throughout. Thick and chewy with a licorice-like tone. Boldly satisfying with a tangy sweetness and heft.

Photo of janubio
4.75/5  rDev +19.9%

Dark opaque colour, with a dense off white head, good lace. Smell of dates, raisins, chocolate, caramel dried fruits. Srong palate, full body, sticky. Taste of dried fruits, chocolate, port wine, licorice, alcohol, caramel, dates. A bomb.

Photo of Mikecap
4.1/5  rDev +3.5%

Bottled in 2012

A: Pours a deep brown, nearly black with a large frothy khaki head that slowly fades.

S: Some sweet malts, chocolate and dark fruits. Get some molasses too, subtle earth as well. Very inviting smell.

T: Lots of chocolate up front, with dark fruit, molasses and a nice sweetness, that does not overpower. A bit of booze comes through as well.

M: Medium bodied and smooth, with a nice sweetness and solid carbonation. A nice sipping beer that is great even as it warms. A bit more body might benefit.

O: A real solid beer here, not akin to many of the BSDAs I've had. I get much more chocolatey sweetness than I'd expect, but I dig it!

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.94/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours opaque black with a twon finger tan head with good retention and pillowy lacing. Aroma of molasses, dark toasted malt and more molasses. Flavor is sweet dark dried fruit, mainly dates and raisins, marizpan, slightly nutty and toasty. Sweet dark fruit finish with hints of chocolate, dark malt and tannins. Medium bodied with pleasant peppery carbonation. A quite nice Belgian dark, a bit on the sweet side, but rich dark flavors that support the sweetness. Warming, but the ABV is well covered. The most molasses I've ever encountered in an ale aroma. Molasses is not a major element of the flavor, however. The pour lead me to think I was pouring a dark stout and the flavor somewhat surprised me. Even translated, but name doesn’t give anything away. I enjoyed this, but its sweetness makes it kind of a dessert sipper. Nice for a cool, dark evening.

Photo of asaharyev
3.98/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle date: 13/02/2012

Appearance: Very dark brown, with a nice 1/4" of tan head that sticks around. No light gets through except for through the stem.

Aroma: Dark fruit and twizzlers jump out at first, with a strong sweetness, and good alcohol presence. Further notes of brown sugar and raisins come through, with molasses undertones throughout.

Taste: Much lighter body than expected, but still nice. There is some bitterness, but not a ton. Licorice and molasses come through most, with a strong alcohol presence. The roasted and toasted notes linger, but the sweet fruit/licorice flavors fade relatively quickly.

Overall: A very good beer, with a well rounded flavor that sits and lets you sip for a while. I'd like to try a fresh one, but there are no dated bottles in my local shop.

Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +11.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a four finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving a good lace. Dark opaque brown color, some yeast left in bottle. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is molasses, chocolate and dark cherry. Better flavor as it warms. Higher ABV is hidden. 330ml bottle $6.99 Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA.

Photo of oberon
4.03/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a somewhar murky russett brown with an almost perfect light beige one finger clingy head atop leaving a full broken ring of lace as it settles oh so slowly.Fruit with a hint of sherry vinegar in the nose wich Iam not sure is a good thing but works here,wow it's fruity.Fruity and cakey on the palate with some cake notes,the finsih has some yeasty spice notes.The alcohol is kept in control pretty good and the palate is a fruit attack.I liked it and would buy again.

Photo of CommanderOfAwesome
3.18/5  rDev -19.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Feb 2012 bottle opened April 27th 2013

A: Pours a ruby brown with an insane amount of head. I was almost worried about it being a gusher. Full hand light brown head.

S: Oh man, dark sweet fruits. Very over powering with a bit of burnt plastic on the end of the aroma.

T: Sweet dark fruits. Very powerful. Prunes, Raisins, grapes a hint of chocolate. Little too sweet for my taste.

M: Medium bodied, really carbonated, too much so IMO. Sticky sweet, that coats the mouth.

O: Really sweet, pungent beer. More on the quad side just really dark fruit sweetness. Not my favorite style or taste profile but its there if you're into that.

Photo of obywan59
4.17/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a very dark brown, not quite opaque. A 4 finger tan head recedes becoming chunky as it goes, leaving a bit of thick, sticky lacing. and a mound of foam.

Very fruity with both dark dried fruit and grapes and some faint chocolate as well.

Very sweet!. A dessert beer? A light chocolatey bitterness, but there's also some significant dark toasted malt. Nice! Very winey, but more substantial, like a port or sherry. Light spice.

Moderatly full body, wih a light bite on the tongue, and a bit of warming in the throat. Smooth, the alcohol is barely noticable. Moderately sticky.

Very easy to drink considering the ABV. I could have downed three of these in a flash, except that the alcohol would have soon overtaken me. Elegant. Decadent.

Photo of Sammy
3.91/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle at Bar Volo(bottled May 26, 2011). Substantive bitterness, very coffee like bitterness. The aroma is very roast. Black bodied. Lacey. A long bitter finish.Average mouthfeel, and a small amount of chocolate malt. More of an imperial stout. Decent drinkability, although something I may not reach for again. A bomber is a lot for three people.Slightly drying aftertaste.

Photo of DrinkSlurm
4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle purchased for $5.99 at Calandro's in Baton Rouge, LA, poured into tulip. Pours a deep brown with awesome, perfect creamy off white head. Great dried fruit and boozey chocolate aromas. Wow...awesome chocolate, dried fruit, malty flavor with a hint of bitter hop. Some booze is present but not as much as I expected. So smooth and so creamy. The beer is like silk. This brew has one of the best "mouthfeel" ive ever had, especially one with such a high abv. This is a great brew...somewhat different than the normal Strong Dark, I think its less "spice" character than I normally attribute to the style, but its just so good. Go have one if you see it!

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.56/5  rDev -10.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A good looking beer, but holy hell...the head was about 7 fingers! Dirty glass? No. Used another. Same. Whew, that's foam! And looks like chocolate milk.

Dark pour. The aroma is coffee and dark chocolate. A bit of berry and dark toast.

Coffee lingers in the flavor, but fades. The yeast and bread come out a bit, too, but not much. Cranberry and some berry come and go across the palate. A hint of nuttiness. Toffee.
Not quite as sweet or candy-like that many dark Belgians (beers) have, which makes it more drinkable.

Solid beer. Price is touch steep.

Photo of thierrynantes
3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from Bière & Chopes, and tasted in 2012.

Appearance : dark red brown color with tan foamy head.
Smell : roasted malt, caramel, chocolate aromas.
Tasted & mouthfeel : dark dried fruit with roasted, wood and spicy notes. Dry alcoholic finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Belgian strong dark ale.

Photo of kojevergas
3.66/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

.33cl bottled acquired at De Molen in Bodegraven and served into Antwerp Beer Passion Weekend 20cl stemware. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

A: Pours a four finger head of tan colour, fair cream and thickness, and amazing retention - especially for this high an ABV. The head's showing no signs of going down after four minutes. Colour is a dark brown with visible yeast particles.

Sm: Yeast, cream, caramel, and coffee. A mild strength aroma.

T: Cream opens to a caramelized malt foundation on top of which are notes of caramel, cream, coffee, and roasted barley. Alcohol is quite apparent, unfortunately. Complex but a bit imbalanced. Well built for the style.

Mf: Coarse - a bit overly so, and dry - but not enough. Doesn't quite suit the flavours like it should.

Dr: Hides its ABV alright. Very drinkable and of high quality. Fairly priced at the brewery. I'd have it again.

B

Photo of Bung
4.2/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz. Te usual ridiculous Belgian pour, blackish brown with the overflowing the glass cream colored head. Someone explain to me again why this is good? Anyways, looks how it should. Nice heavy lacing.

Aroma, loads of fig, brown sugar, prune and molasses.

Taste, baked brown sugar, plum up front pretty sweet. More toasted notes, malt and chestnut. Little bit of dark chocolate in there too. A nice earthy finish, peat, herbal hops, a slight oaky char. Pretty nice.

Medium body, but lively carbonation keeps it pretty easy to drink. Still coats pretty well. Really only a faint warming.
This was very nice, and much better than the De Molen attempts at stouts and porters.

Photo of AgentMunky
3.77/5  rDev -4.8%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a brandy snifter. Bottled 13 February 2012.

A: MASSIVE, oversized head. Even a moderate pour nets 4+ fingers of head and threatens to overflow the glass. Impressive retention, but not a good start. Heavy lacing.

S: Vague fruits. Porterish dark, chocolate, nutty malts.

T: Excellent! Rich, complex, and rewarding. Very sweet, with a sticky-fruity side and a chocolate, malty character. Raisins, dates, plums, and other dark, sugary fruits swim around, with a touch of Belgian yeast, a hint of roast, and some definite chocolate (especially on the aftertaste).

M: From all that head, I expected a bit more carbonation. As it stands, it's thick, smooth, and a tad oppressive.

O: A good beer, but underwhelming. Would look elsewhere for my BSDA, but did not tarnish my opinion of De Molen.

Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -2%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version.

Photo of tbeckett
4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.98/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very dark in brown, the ale could be easily mistaken as a porter. Except with the eruptive carbonation, nearly rocky tan head, and lacing decoration that covers nearly half the surface area of the glass, the beer is deceptively dark.

But that darkness doesn't translate to any roast character. Instead the aromas of heavy toast, kona coffees, walnut, and chocolate provide a foundation from which the estery twang of berries, cherries, vinous grapes, and apples spring from. An envelope of starch aromas seem both of fresh bread and spaghetti. Fresh cracked peppercorn and oak-like char gives a peppery note to decorate the fruit and malt components.

Flavors follow suit, with the sweeter tone of grapes, powdered sugar, a dash of brown sugar, slightly scorched toffee, toast char, chocolate, cherries, figs, dates, plumbs, and peppercorn all providing the balance of fruit and spice- giving the beer all the complexity and balance it needs. But it doesn't stop there. It continues to build the rich underpinnings of starchy malts with rich bread taste, Dopplebock-like melanoidin savoriness, meaty and light smoky taste to accompany vanilla and heavy cream. The beer goes a lot of directions at once.

Certainly full bodied despite its ample carbonation, the malt richness is heavy, semi-thick, and fully textured. Creamy from the onset, the marshmallowy texture extends well past mid palate and rests in expansive fashion on the tongue and envelops the mouth completely before the semi-malty, vinous tart, and slight warmth of carbonation signals the indefinite finish.

Very rich in malt character but not overly sweet, this is an interesting rendition of the Belgian strong dark ales that gets away from the supple and arid versions- this guy begs for a pairing of cobbler or bread pudding.

Photo of Sean9689
3.5/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Holy Grale at their De Molen Tap Takeover Event.

A - Pours dark brown in color, white head, thin collar, spotty lace.

S - Chocolate, malts, yeast, toffee, light roast. The sweetness isn't overpowering and works well with the roast & yeast notes. The booze is there, but doesn't impair the nuances.

T - Chocolate, booze, toasted malts, yeast, carmel. A little less sweet then the nose with a touch hotter booze note. More dark chocolate bitterness then the sweeter chocolate I picked out on the nose. Finish is toasted malts & caramel sweetness.

M - Medium body, good carbonation, creamy finish.

O - A nice Belgian Strong that has some good complexity and well-hidden alcohol notes. I like the bitter & sweet notes and it really works well together. Decent.

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Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
88 out of 100 based on 120 ratings.