Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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Reviews: 54
Hads: 128
rAvg: 3.92
pDev: 10.46%
Wants: 5
Gots: 15 | FT: 1
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Netherlands

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Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.20% ABV

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Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010

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Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -1%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version. (1,425 characters)

Photo of tbeckett
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen. (844 characters)

Photo of BEERchitect
3.98/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very dark in brown, the ale could be easily mistaken as a porter. Except with the eruptive carbonation, nearly rocky tan head, and lacing decoration that covers nearly half the surface area of the glass, the beer is deceptively dark.

But that darkness doesn't translate to any roast character. Instead the aromas of heavy toast, kona coffees, walnut, and chocolate provide a foundation from which the estery twang of berries, cherries, vinous grapes, and apples spring from. An envelope of starch aromas seem both of fresh bread and spaghetti. Fresh cracked peppercorn and oak-like char gives a peppery note to decorate the fruit and malt components.

Flavors follow suit, with the sweeter tone of grapes, powdered sugar, a dash of brown sugar, slightly scorched toffee, toast char, chocolate, cherries, figs, dates, plumbs, and peppercorn all providing the balance of fruit and spice- giving the beer all the complexity and balance it needs. But it doesn't stop there. It continues to build the rich underpinnings of starchy malts with rich bread taste, Dopplebock-like melanoidin savoriness, meaty and light smoky taste to accompany vanilla and heavy cream. The beer goes a lot of directions at once.

Certainly full bodied despite its ample carbonation, the malt richness is heavy, semi-thick, and fully textured. Creamy from the onset, the marshmallowy texture extends well past mid palate and rests in expansive fashion on the tongue and envelops the mouth completely before the semi-malty, vinous tart, and slight warmth of carbonation signals the indefinite finish.

Very rich in malt character but not overly sweet, this is an interesting rendition of the Belgian strong dark ales that gets away from the supple and arid versions- this guy begs for a pairing of cobbler or bread pudding. (1,797 characters)

Photo of Sean9689
3.5/5  rDev -10.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Holy Grale at their De Molen Tap Takeover Event.

A - Pours dark brown in color, white head, thin collar, spotty lace.

S - Chocolate, malts, yeast, toffee, light roast. The sweetness isn't overpowering and works well with the roast & yeast notes. The booze is there, but doesn't impair the nuances.

T - Chocolate, booze, toasted malts, yeast, carmel. A little less sweet then the nose with a touch hotter booze note. More dark chocolate bitterness then the sweeter chocolate I picked out on the nose. Finish is toasted malts & caramel sweetness.

M - Medium body, good carbonation, creamy finish.

O - A nice Belgian Strong that has some good complexity and well-hidden alcohol notes. I like the bitter & sweet notes and it really works well together. Decent. (773 characters)

Photo of Arno
3.18/5  rDev -18.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

appearance: Dark brown with a huge foam top. Great lacing!

smell: Dark choclate, ripe fruit, candi sugar malts.

taste: Sweet and bitter deep dark chocolate and licorice like. Some dark ripe fruits and quite a hint of alcohol. Is a bit like a stout, but sweeter.

mouthfeel: Medium carbonation. Medium thickness, just like the taste suggests.

overall: It's a good tasting beer. It has a nice deep flavor of all the nice things (Chocolate, ripe fruits, sweet and bitter), but lacks a bit of depth and development. Also it's just a tad too alcohol heavy tasting to really enjoy for me. (588 characters)

Photo of gford217
3.65/5  rDev -6.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle.

Pours very dark mahogany brown with a huge fluffy beige head that sticks around for ages and leaves tons of sticky lacing.

Aroma is very sweet with lots of candi sugar, chocolate and overripe dark fruits - sugar-coated raisins. Some oak and vanilla mixed in.

The taste has an initial kick that I wasn't expecting and is tough to place. Definitely some booze, chocolate and dark fruit. There is also a hint of tartness or something, can't pin it down. Boozy sweet finish.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated, maybe too much for me, which lends to a lighter feel than I was expecting.

This is an interesting beer with a taste that had a lot going on. Sweet and boozy with some dark fruit and other things thrown in. Tasty though I couldn't drink more than one. (773 characters)

Photo of drpimento
4.66/5  rDev +18.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Lordy, what a great beer of amazing dualities! Poured at a good temperature with a grand, foamy, fluffy, billowy, thick, light tan head that lasts and lasts, plus good lacing. Color is a clear mahoganey with plenty of bubble trails. Aroma is a clean blend of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and yeast. Flavor is like nose and at first sweet, but then plenty bitter with the carbonic tang enhancing and elevating both the bitter and sweet. I find myself going back to ponder the sweet and then the bittter. Then again the bitter and then the sweet. I can't hardly imagine this beer being better. Body is full, but not too, carbonation is perfect. Finish is like flavor, of average length, very clean, and a hint warming. The only reason I don't give it a better rating in aroma is my snooter doesn't work so well. Fabulous beer. (825 characters)

Photo of Dope
3.9/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated 13/02/2012

A: A dark reddish brown pour with a big fluffy tan head. Fades slowly, very slowly. Leaves a foam island behind as well as decent trails of lacing as it fades.

S: Strong fruity figs and raisins up front. Loads of sweet caramel. A hint of cocoa? Mostly the strong and sweet fruitiness.

T: As in the nose, a strong fig and raisin presence up front. Caramel throughout. Chocolate kicks in the middle, a little stronger than in the nose but still subtle. Fades with a lingering earthy bitterness.

M: Medium-heavy body. Carbonation is spot on.

O: Interesting BSDA. It's fairly simple and very fruit-heavy. Surprising bitterness on the back end too. Solid beer, nothing too amazing however. (713 characters)

Photo of avalon07
4.05/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, tan-colored, foamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruits, malt, and bit of yeast. Typical Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

T: Tasted of some malt, dark fruits (plums, raisins), some yeast, and a hint of chocolate in the finish. Not a hint of alcohol in it. A very straightforward, likeable flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a crisp, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This is a solidly made, easy to like, drinkable beer. (547 characters)

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.38/5  rDev +11.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a nice medium size foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma consists of sweet Belgian-style malt with notes of dry fruits and light candy notes. Taste is also a nice mix between some semi-sweet malt notes with some nice candy-like ester and some dry raisins and plums notes. Body is full with great carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Very nice beer to enjoy by the fireside on a cold winter night. (467 characters)

Photo of Absumaster
4.05/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The name of the beer refers to the translation in Dutch of the horrible soap "Bold and the Beautiful"

A dark brown, burgundy beer with a huge head that clings to the glass and never seems to settle.

Smell is like the Rochefort strain, spicy and estery. The spices remind of clove and juniper. The malts add a strong chocolaty and little roasted smell, accompanied by a grainy, somewhat husky smell. The alcohol is apparent in the smell and tickles the nose.

Taste is strong and sweet. The yeast is the main contributor of the taste. It adds spice that reminds of clove and juniper. This is a seriously sweet and strong beer, with chocolate and bready notes. The alcohol is hidden, but gives a warm sensation when swallowed. The beer is balanced but the husky smell is also apparent in the taste and gives the beer a little musty taste. (839 characters)

Photo of CrazyDavros
4.16/5  rDev +6.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours brown with a stupidly large head, crazily over-carbed.
Nose shows chocolate fudge, raisins, faint roasted malt, cocoa, spicy hops, soft booze and golden syrup. Amazing.
Very similar flavours, more chocolate, raisins, booze and golden syrup. The roasted malt is more noticeable here.
Thick, syrupy body; a little too much. (327 characters)

Photo of pixieskid
3.58/5  rDev -8.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

When selecting it off the shelf, I thought it was another of their Imeprial Stouts, given the abv, ibu content, etc. But, as soon as I poured and tasted it, realized it was no Impy Stout.

Pours a dark brown/red with a nice head.
Notes of toffee with hints of herbal hops and ripe fruits. Honestly was pretty one dimensional but nice tasting with great balance and the abv was well hidden. (389 characters)

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

I too am calling b.s. on the Russian imp. stout label on this one. It's a Belgian dark ale; there was nothing stout-like about this beer at all.

Poured a very hazy dark brown color with a small white cap of head. Aroma almost of a Scotch ale, boozy, sweet, malty, and woody. Tasted of alcohol-soaked oak, Belgian yeast, toasty malts, toffee, with lesser notes of vanilla, cocoa and bitter hops. Pretty nice, robust, with a medium body. Moderately drinkable, not something I'd have during a casual session, but it'd probably go good with a nice cigar. (598 characters)

Photo of womencantsail
3.53/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for sharing, Rich.

A: The beer pours a hazed dark brown color that foamed up a little as the bottle was opened.

S: Smells of oak and vanilla initially. There's a lot of roasted malt and a bit of toasted bread. A bit of cherry and nut shell aroma to go with some chocolate, coffee, and a light booziness.

T: There is quite a bit of booze which gives the beer an almost tart flavor. Lots of roast and oak with some light toast notes. Cocoa powder and nuts with hints of licorice and molasses.

M: Medium bodied with somewhat high carbonation for an imperial stout.

O: I just don't "get it" with these De Molen beers. This was mediocre. (644 characters)

Photo of MasterSki
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeffo for this one. Served in a FoBAB mini-pint glass. Bottled June 21st, 2010.

A - Two main things leap out at me here. One - this is over-primed and the resulting amount of tan foam is enormous. Two, this isn't an RIS. Ridiculous head retention that eventually settles to a thick cap, but leaves minimal lace behind. Body is extremely dark brown-red with some transparency when held to the light. Looks more like a quad or BSDA of some sort.

S - Taste is again heavy on quad flavors - raisins, dates, other dark fruits, light milk chocolate notes, a bit of rum-cake, and a faint hint of buttery diacetyl as well. Also a hint of alcohol, but nothing excessive. Strikes me more as a hybrid of various English and Belgian styles.

T - Again, it's extremely fruity, with toffee, treacle, cherries, brown and caramelized sugars, and a bit of nuttiness as well. There's a bit of the sharp alcohol bite that I get out of many scotch ales and quads. Finish is a bit harsh, with alcohol and mild astringency present.

M - It's a bit over-carbonated, which detracts from an otherwise creamy medium body. Dry finish, with some obvious alcohol warmth. Letting it sit for a while helps quite a bit.

D - Not sure what to make of this beer - you could have told me it was a quad, English strong ale, Belgian strong dark ale, English barleywine, scotch ale, or winter warmer and I probably would believe you. It's surprisingly easy to drink considering the ABV and the mild over-carbonation. I'd certainly give it another shot, but I wouldn't actively seek this one out. (1,569 characters)

Photo of RuudJH
4/5  rDev +2%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed 25 march 2011, bottled 5 may 2011, in a 33 cl bottle.
81.7 EBU.

Dark brown colour, light brown head. This beer is very lively from the bottle. It tries to escape from it, has a huge head, so it's not easy to get the stuff in the glass.
Once you do, it's got nice aroma and flavour: dark roasted malts, nutts, coffee, some chocolate. Dark fruits like raisins, figs. Some fresh berry in the smell too.
Full flavoured bittersweetness all over.

Similar to Hel & Verdoemenis, from the same brewery, in all aspects of the beer.
''Beauty and Mercyless'' spells ''Hell and Damnation''.
I knew it. (597 characters)

Photo of dgilks
3.63/5  rDev -7.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pitch, inky black with a creamy, dark tan head. Good head retention and great lacing.

Spicy alcohol, bitter roast and a deep herbal bitterness are the most present items in the aroma. There is some bitter chocolate as well. Good.

Dry, bitter, a little hoppy. Some chocolate. There are a few harsh phenolics in the background. The flavour is actually quite straight forward and okay but a little more sweetness would help this along.

Medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Quite thin.

For me the flavours here are okay but the lack of body and residual malt doesn't help this beer. (590 characters)

Photo of rarbring
4.3/5  rDev +9.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The brew is foggy dark brown, a tan high head with good lacing.

The smell is sweet and herbal, reminds me of an liqueur, but also figs, toast, and coffee beans.

Tasting sweet, fig marmalade, sherry, dark chocolate and herbs.

Little carbonation, smooth and oily, a big body, a warm feeling.

Very nice with cheese after dinner. To me this is more like a Belgian Strong Dark Ale. (380 characters)

Photo of SleepyMonk
4.01/5  rDev +2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured in several stages due to the unexpected amount of carbonated head this Russian Imperial STout generates in a chalice glass. To me this seems very unusual to the style.

Appearance is very dark as expected, however, it comes with a tall tan head the size and integrity that one would expect from a Belgian strong ale for example.

Nose is full of soft coffee notes with a slightly over weight quantity of dark fruits.

In the mouth and across the tongue it is very strong up front with a delicate balance of espresso and bitter hops. The usual taste expectations of the Russian Stouts style are there, however, the bitterness definitely differentiates this from its peers.

This brings us to mouthfeel and I'm once again taken back to the question of carbonation. In the mouth there is a degree of weight and intensity, however this is beset on both sides by an intense carbonation that strongly effects the overall weight of the beer.

The carbonation issue is really just a thing of personal taste but it needs to be put out there, but, overall; this is a fantastic beer. Perhaps not as good as Rasputin, but thats a different beast altogether. (1,153 characters)

Photo of eric5bellies
3.9/5  rDev -0.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4.5

Drank from my Duvel Tulip

A - Pours a quad like appearance with a huge beige head that reduces to a film very slowly.

S - Aromas of small coffee and roasted malt.

T - Plenty of coffee present up front tha gives way to a very smooth caramel flavour. Some nice dark fruits in the flavour and finishes in quite a spicey way.

M - Slightly over carbonated and fullish body.

O - A very drinkable RIS (398 characters)

Photo of GONZALOYANNA
3.24/5  rDev -17.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Enjoyed on 3/12/11 in a Pint glass. Pure black, dark amber lights on sides. Foam dense, coffe&milk color neither much creamy nor persistent as expected. No lacing shown. Complex aroma, toasted notes & dry nuts. Intense toasted malt & cocoa hints hidden by dry bitterness & excesive carbonation. Little fat in mouth. I felt quite dissapointed in the overall, ´cause if a Brw knows how to perform a perfect Russian... for sure De Molen does, unfortunately not in Mooi case. (472 characters)

Photo of stoutopia
4.47/5  rDev +14%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap In BLOWbeerBAR in Valladolid Spain. Very nice Russian Imperial Stout. It pours a black hole in your glass, with a little lightly brown head. Smell, is so roasted, with some chocolate, some toffe, lots of coffe, and strong hops, mixing. Flavour is so full, with lots of moka, chocolate, roasted malts, and rauch malts in it. Finish is hoppy and dry. Not so alcoholic. I would like to have another pint again... (416 characters)

Photo of laituegonflable
3.86/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown; just a glimmer of colour through an otherwise black body. Head is beige and quite foamy. Soft and sinky on the top, sparse bubbles around the side. Thick, and retaining beautifully. If lace were a touch stickier it would be perfect.

Smells quite roasty. Lots of slightly sour espresso notes, with a generous dash of soy sauce giving a slight salty edge. Mild spice to it with licorice and some chocolate sweetness hanging at the back. Decent, but I'd like it to head either in the more roasty or the sweeter direction; the saltiness ultimately wins out.

Taste is quite a decent duck indeed. Roasty from the get-go, with spicy roasted malt giving licorice, espresso coffee and slight charcoal flavour. Mellows to a quite sweet mid-palate with caramel and a touch of raisin, then spice immediately takes over for the finish, with a dollop of alcohol heat, some darker notes of cocoa and coffee, and a slight floral hint at the end giving a very pleasant, clean finish to a potent palate.

Good body, bit rough around the edges though where the alcomohol hits.

Drinkable? Yeah, as a sipper. That clean finish is a winner, and there's not too much going on to put you off throughout the palate. (1,218 characters)

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.18/5  rDev +6.6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to @LaitueGonflable for the beer. Cracked open with him after a day of terribly hard work.

Pours with an immense and almost comically voluminous head, so much so that I almost can't fit one 330ml bottle into two glasses. Body is thick and black-brown, heavily opaque. Head is light brown, and although it's amazingly frothy to begin with, it collapses leaving clumps of lace and a pillowed centre. Looks very good.

Ooh, nose is delicious with dark roastiness and slight aged dark characters, giving off very slight vinous characters of oak. Slight seltzer acidity to it, as though it's bubbling off all its carbon dioxide. Sweet boozy notes to it as well, giving some lovely port and bourbon characters. Lovely. Not as strong as some other examples, but nicely constructed.

Taste is very nice in the flavour department, but the feel is really quite surprisingly thin, leaving the palate open to a real sting from booze. In terms of flavour, the palate is dominated by a strong vinous, slightly astringent heat that gives off oaky spirits and liqueur filled chocolates. On the back, we get more of a grainy black note, which releases a nutty character and a very pleasantly smooth finish. Despite the heat, the beer has rounded you up and cuddles you back to sensibility.

Surprisingly drinkable for its profile, ABV and strength. A bold but well made Imperial Stout, that ticks many of the boxes for an exemplar of the style. (1,435 characters)

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Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
87 out of 100 based on 54 ratings.