Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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Ratings: 125
Reviews: 53
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 11.65%
Wants: 5
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010

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Photo of Sammy
3.91/5  rDev -1%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle at Bar Volo(bottled May 26, 2011). Substantive bitterness, very coffee like bitterness. The aroma is very roast. Black bodied. Lacey. A long bitter finish.Average mouthfeel, and a small amount of chocolate malt. More of an imperial stout. Decent drinkability, although something I may not reach for again. A bomber is a lot for three people.Slightly drying aftertaste.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very dark in brown, the ale could be easily mistaken as a porter. Except with the eruptive carbonation, nearly rocky tan head, and lacing decoration that covers nearly half the surface area of the glass, the beer is deceptively dark.

But that darkness doesn't translate to any roast character. Instead the aromas of heavy toast, kona coffees, walnut, and chocolate provide a foundation from which the estery twang of berries, cherries, vinous grapes, and apples spring from. An envelope of starch aromas seem both of fresh bread and spaghetti. Fresh cracked peppercorn and oak-like char gives a peppery note to decorate the fruit and malt components.

Flavors follow suit, with the sweeter tone of grapes, powdered sugar, a dash of brown sugar, slightly scorched toffee, toast char, chocolate, cherries, figs, dates, plumbs, and peppercorn all providing the balance of fruit and spice- giving the beer all the complexity and balance it needs. But it doesn't stop there. It continues to build the rich underpinnings of starchy malts with rich bread taste, Dopplebock-like melanoidin savoriness, meaty and light smoky taste to accompany vanilla and heavy cream. The beer goes a lot of directions at once.

Certainly full bodied despite its ample carbonation, the malt richness is heavy, semi-thick, and fully textured. Creamy from the onset, the marshmallowy texture extends well past mid palate and rests in expansive fashion on the tongue and envelops the mouth completely before the semi-malty, vinous tart, and slight warmth of carbonation signals the indefinite finish.

Very rich in malt character but not overly sweet, this is an interesting rendition of the Belgian strong dark ales that gets away from the supple and arid versions- this guy begs for a pairing of cobbler or bread pudding.

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.63/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

this is flat out up there with the best beers i have ever had, despite the fact that its nothing like a quad, or at least not like any i have ever had. brewed in 2012 the bottle tells me, i havent seen much of this one around, but found it on a dusty shelf down in the springs, score for me, this was on sale for like six bucks, what a steal! more head than you can imagine on the pour, i mean, its fizzing and frothing like a science experiment gone out of control, and i struggle to not waste any of the beer, the cap almost popped itself. the nose intrigues me right away, bitter orange peel and compost and again a yeast strain i have never encountered all grab me in a compelling fashion. what is this? not a quad as i know them, i mean, its not thick and sweet or even belgian in the least. totally different yeast, totally different grain build, but this one is about the synergistic whole, not the individual elements. there is a flavor here on the edge of fruity that comes on right after the initial rush of bubbles hits the tongue, but before the yeasty intensity sets in, and i cant quite place it. candied orange peel seems too sweet and acidic, a baked good of some kind, even a breakfast confection seems to heavy, and describing it as floral or blooming or even alive just doesnt do it justice. its familiar but not in beer, and i am in love with it here. the carbonation makes this drink like a session beer, the alcohol is wildly confusing to me, as the beer is only medium bodied without all the bubbles, but light as heck with them, and there isnt a sharpness of any kind. not sure about the yeast identification, its foreign to me, but id clearly does wonderful things to this beer. if this is what quad is in the netherlands, im moving. its that moving for me really. one of the best beers i have ever had, and reaffirms my new found love for de molen!!! this mouthfeel in this style is unheard of, and even if it tasted just okay i would score it well for that, but the fact that its so one of a kind yet totally incredible make it elite if not in a world of its own.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.38/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a nice medium size foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma consists of sweet Belgian-style malt with notes of dry fruits and light candy notes. Taste is also a nice mix between some semi-sweet malt notes with some nice candy-like ester and some dry raisins and plums notes. Body is full with great carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Very nice beer to enjoy by the fireside on a cold winter night.

Photo of biboergosum
3.88/5  rDev -1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version.

Photo of oberon
4.03/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a somewhar murky russett brown with an almost perfect light beige one finger clingy head atop leaving a full broken ring of lace as it settles oh so slowly.Fruit with a hint of sherry vinegar in the nose wich Iam not sure is a good thing but works here,wow it's fruity.Fruity and cakey on the palate with some cake notes,the finsih has some yeasty spice notes.The alcohol is kept in control pretty good and the palate is a fruit attack.I liked it and would buy again.

Photo of womencantsail
3.53/5  rDev -10.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Thanks for sharing, Rich.

A: The beer pours a hazed dark brown color that foamed up a little as the bottle was opened.

S: Smells of oak and vanilla initially. There's a lot of roasted malt and a bit of toasted bread. A bit of cherry and nut shell aroma to go with some chocolate, coffee, and a light booziness.

T: There is quite a bit of booze which gives the beer an almost tart flavor. Lots of roast and oak with some light toast notes. Cocoa powder and nuts with hints of licorice and molasses.

M: Medium bodied with somewhat high carbonation for an imperial stout.

O: I just don't "get it" with these De Molen beers. This was mediocre.

Photo of TheManiacalOne
3.83/5  rDev -3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Poured from a 12oz bottle into a tulip glass.

A: The beer is a deep dark brown color with a large off-white head that fades slowly and leaves a thick lace on the glass.

S: The aroma contains Belgian yeast, chocolate, brown sugar, roasted malts, licorice and a faint touch of hops.

T: The taste starts out sweet with strong flavors of chocolate, brown sugar, licorice, raisins and caramel. Then some breadiness comes in from the Belgian yeast and a hearty roasted malt character. The hops presence is mild but complementary and brings a decent balance. The after-taste is sweet.

M: Smooth and viscous, medium body, medium carbonation, finish is slightly sticky.

O: Tasty and complex, goes down ok, not too filling, strong kick, good representation of style, it’s a solid beer but there are others in the style that I would pick first.

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

I too am calling b.s. on the Russian imp. stout label on this one. It's a Belgian dark ale; there was nothing stout-like about this beer at all.

Poured a very hazy dark brown color with a small white cap of head. Aroma almost of a Scotch ale, boozy, sweet, malty, and woody. Tasted of alcohol-soaked oak, Belgian yeast, toasty malts, toffee, with lesser notes of vanilla, cocoa and bitter hops. Pretty nice, robust, with a medium body. Moderately drinkable, not something I'd have during a casual session, but it'd probably go good with a nice cigar.

Photo of kojevergas
3.66/5  rDev -7.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

.33cl bottled acquired at De Molen in Bodegraven and served into Antwerp Beer Passion Weekend 20cl stemware. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

A: Pours a four finger head of tan colour, fair cream and thickness, and amazing retention - especially for this high an ABV. The head's showing no signs of going down after four minutes. Colour is a dark brown with visible yeast particles.

Sm: Yeast, cream, caramel, and coffee. A mild strength aroma.

T: Cream opens to a caramelized malt foundation on top of which are notes of caramel, cream, coffee, and roasted barley. Alcohol is quite apparent, unfortunately. Complex but a bit imbalanced. Well built for the style.

Mf: Coarse - a bit overly so, and dry - but not enough. Doesn't quite suit the flavours like it should.

Dr: Hides its ABV alright. Very drinkable and of high quality. Fairly priced at the brewery. I'd have it again.

B

Photo of MasterSki
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeffo for this one. Served in a FoBAB mini-pint glass. Bottled June 21st, 2010.

A - Two main things leap out at me here. One - this is over-primed and the resulting amount of tan foam is enormous. Two, this isn't an RIS. Ridiculous head retention that eventually settles to a thick cap, but leaves minimal lace behind. Body is extremely dark brown-red with some transparency when held to the light. Looks more like a quad or BSDA of some sort.

S - Taste is again heavy on quad flavors - raisins, dates, other dark fruits, light milk chocolate notes, a bit of rum-cake, and a faint hint of buttery diacetyl as well. Also a hint of alcohol, but nothing excessive. Strikes me more as a hybrid of various English and Belgian styles.

T - Again, it's extremely fruity, with toffee, treacle, cherries, brown and caramelized sugars, and a bit of nuttiness as well. There's a bit of the sharp alcohol bite that I get out of many scotch ales and quads. Finish is a bit harsh, with alcohol and mild astringency present.

M - It's a bit over-carbonated, which detracts from an otherwise creamy medium body. Dry finish, with some obvious alcohol warmth. Letting it sit for a while helps quite a bit.

D - Not sure what to make of this beer - you could have told me it was a quad, English strong ale, Belgian strong dark ale, English barleywine, scotch ale, or winter warmer and I probably would believe you. It's surprisingly easy to drink considering the ABV and the mild over-carbonation. I'd certainly give it another shot, but I wouldn't actively seek this one out.

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this 33cl bottle. Bottled 6-24-10.

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is very heavy on the caramel malt and roasted malt, along with some dark fruit mixed in. The beer has no hops in the aroma and smells very sweet.

The flavor is heavy on the dark fruit, toffee, brown sugar, chocolate, molasses, roasted malt and some nuttyness. The alcohol is very well hidden for a beer that is more than 10 percent in alcohol. A very complex, very malty stout. Very drinkable considering the ABV.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very nice Belgian-inspired Stout from De Molen.

Photo of Huhzubendah
3.73/5  rDev -5.6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Dark chestnut / amber body with a soapy, tan head. Yeasty, fruity, boozy. Raisins soaked in alcohol, ripe plums, yeast, brown bread, sugar. Medium bodied. Sweet and boozy. Best shared.

Photo of Mebuzzard
3.56/5  rDev -9.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A good looking beer, but holy hell...the head was about 7 fingers! Dirty glass? No. Used another. Same. Whew, that's foam! And looks like chocolate milk.

Dark pour. The aroma is coffee and dark chocolate. A bit of berry and dark toast.

Coffee lingers in the flavor, but fades. The yeast and bread come out a bit, too, but not much. Cranberry and some berry come and go across the palate. A hint of nuttiness. Toffee.
Not quite as sweet or candy-like that many dark Belgians (beers) have, which makes it more drinkable.

Solid beer. Price is touch steep.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.18/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to @LaitueGonflable for the beer. Cracked open with him after a day of terribly hard work.

Pours with an immense and almost comically voluminous head, so much so that I almost can't fit one 330ml bottle into two glasses. Body is thick and black-brown, heavily opaque. Head is light brown, and although it's amazingly frothy to begin with, it collapses leaving clumps of lace and a pillowed centre. Looks very good.

Ooh, nose is delicious with dark roastiness and slight aged dark characters, giving off very slight vinous characters of oak. Slight seltzer acidity to it, as though it's bubbling off all its carbon dioxide. Sweet boozy notes to it as well, giving some lovely port and bourbon characters. Lovely. Not as strong as some other examples, but nicely constructed.

Taste is very nice in the flavour department, but the feel is really quite surprisingly thin, leaving the palate open to a real sting from booze. In terms of flavour, the palate is dominated by a strong vinous, slightly astringent heat that gives off oaky spirits and liqueur filled chocolates. On the back, we get more of a grainy black note, which releases a nutty character and a very pleasantly smooth finish. Despite the heat, the beer has rounded you up and cuddles you back to sensibility.

Surprisingly drinkable for its profile, ABV and strength. A bold but well made Imperial Stout, that ticks many of the boxes for an exemplar of the style.

Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a four finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving a good lace. Dark opaque brown color, some yeast left in bottle. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is molasses, chocolate and dark cherry. Better flavor as it warms. Higher ABV is hidden. 330ml bottle $6.99 Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA.

Photo of dcmchew
3.9/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Really dark brown with just a bit of short-living off-white froth.
Smell of dark fruit jam, mostly raisin, date and some cherry, molasses, sweet dark malts, a bit of chocolate, a bit of alcohol, faint walnut.
Sweet dark fruit up front, bathed in molasses and caramel. Lots of raisin, fig, slightly sour cherries. A bit of citrus peel. Malts are toasty, bringing some chocolate, faint nut and dark bread crust. Nice and spicy, licorice, faint anise, teaming up with the warm alcohol in the finish and hinting strongly at Port wine. Light roast here too.
Medium body, almost flat, sticky. Aftertaste is still sweet, lingering molasses and some raisin, plus toasted dark bread.
A bit sweet, but a nice take on a quad. Really tasty, just a bit complex.

Photo of LiquidAmber
3.94/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into a Fremont small snifter. Pours opaque black with a twon finger tan head with good retention and pillowy lacing. Aroma of molasses, dark toasted malt and more molasses. Flavor is sweet dark dried fruit, mainly dates and raisins, marizpan, slightly nutty and toasty. Sweet dark fruit finish with hints of chocolate, dark malt and tannins. Medium bodied with pleasant peppery carbonation. A quite nice Belgian dark, a bit on the sweet side, but rich dark flavors that support the sweetness. Warming, but the ABV is well covered. The most molasses I've ever encountered in an ale aroma. Molasses is not a major element of the flavor, however. The pour lead me to think I was pouring a dark stout and the flavor somewhat surprised me. Even translated, but name doesn’t give anything away. I enjoyed this, but its sweetness makes it kind of a dessert sipper. Nice for a cool, dark evening.

Photo of avalon07
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, tan-colored, foamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruits, malt, and bit of yeast. Typical Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

T: Tasted of some malt, dark fruits (plums, raisins), some yeast, and a hint of chocolate in the finish. Not a hint of alcohol in it. A very straightforward, likeable flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a crisp, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This is a solidly made, easy to like, drinkable beer.

Photo of dgilks
3.63/5  rDev -8.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Pitch, inky black with a creamy, dark tan head. Good head retention and great lacing.

Spicy alcohol, bitter roast and a deep herbal bitterness are the most present items in the aroma. There is some bitter chocolate as well. Good.

Dry, bitter, a little hoppy. Some chocolate. There are a few harsh phenolics in the background. The flavour is actually quite straight forward and okay but a little more sweetness would help this along.

Medium-light body with moderate carbonation. Quite thin.

For me the flavours here are okay but the lack of body and residual malt doesn't help this beer.

Photo of tbeckett
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen.

Photo of drpimento
4.66/5  rDev +18%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Lordy, what a great beer of amazing dualities! Poured at a good temperature with a grand, foamy, fluffy, billowy, thick, light tan head that lasts and lasts, plus good lacing. Color is a clear mahoganey with plenty of bubble trails. Aroma is a clean blend of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and yeast. Flavor is like nose and at first sweet, but then plenty bitter with the carbonic tang enhancing and elevating both the bitter and sweet. I find myself going back to ponder the sweet and then the bittter. Then again the bitter and then the sweet. I can't hardly imagine this beer being better. Body is full, but not too, carbonation is perfect. Finish is like flavor, of average length, very clean, and a hint warming. The only reason I don't give it a better rating in aroma is my snooter doesn't work so well. Fabulous beer.

Photo of CrazyDavros
4.16/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours brown with a stupidly large head, crazily over-carbed.
Nose shows chocolate fudge, raisins, faint roasted malt, cocoa, spicy hops, soft booze and golden syrup. Amazing.
Very similar flavours, more chocolate, raisins, booze and golden syrup. The roasted malt is more noticeable here.
Thick, syrupy body; a little too much.

Photo of gford217
3.65/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle.

Pours very dark mahogany brown with a huge fluffy beige head that sticks around for ages and leaves tons of sticky lacing.

Aroma is very sweet with lots of candi sugar, chocolate and overripe dark fruits - sugar-coated raisins. Some oak and vanilla mixed in.

The taste has an initial kick that I wasn't expecting and is tough to place. Definitely some booze, chocolate and dark fruit. There is also a hint of tartness or something, can't pin it down. Boozy sweet finish.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated, maybe too much for me, which lends to a lighter feel than I was expecting.

This is an interesting beer with a taste that had a lot going on. Sweet and boozy with some dark fruit and other things thrown in. Tasty though I couldn't drink more than one.

Photo of laituegonflable
3.86/5  rDev -2.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Pours a very dark brown; just a glimmer of colour through an otherwise black body. Head is beige and quite foamy. Soft and sinky on the top, sparse bubbles around the side. Thick, and retaining beautifully. If lace were a touch stickier it would be perfect.

Smells quite roasty. Lots of slightly sour espresso notes, with a generous dash of soy sauce giving a slight salty edge. Mild spice to it with licorice and some chocolate sweetness hanging at the back. Decent, but I'd like it to head either in the more roasty or the sweeter direction; the saltiness ultimately wins out.

Taste is quite a decent duck indeed. Roasty from the get-go, with spicy roasted malt giving licorice, espresso coffee and slight charcoal flavour. Mellows to a quite sweet mid-palate with caramel and a touch of raisin, then spice immediately takes over for the finish, with a dollop of alcohol heat, some darker notes of cocoa and coffee, and a slight floral hint at the end giving a very pleasant, clean finish to a potent palate.

Good body, bit rough around the edges though where the alcomohol hits.

Drinkable? Yeah, as a sipper. That clean finish is a winner, and there's not too much going on to put you off throughout the palate.

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Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
88 out of 100 based on 125 ratings.