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Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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88
very good

100 Ratings
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Ratings: 100
Reviews: 44
rAvg: 3.93
pDev: 11.45%
Wants: 4
Gots: 11 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010)
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Photo of Mebuzzard
3.55/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A good looking beer, but holy hell...the head was about 7 fingers! Dirty glass? No. Used another. Same. Whew, that's foam! And looks like chocolate milk.

Dark pour. The aroma is coffee and dark chocolate. A bit of berry and dark toast.

Coffee lingers in the flavor, but fades. The yeast and bread come out a bit, too, but not much. Cranberry and some berry come and go across the palate. A hint of nuttiness. Toffee.
Not quite as sweet or candy-like that many dark Belgians (beers) have, which makes it more drinkable.

Solid beer. Price is touch steep.

Photo of bostonryan
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Photo of thierrynantes
3.95/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from Bière & Chopes, and tasted in 2012.

Appearance : dark red brown color with tan foamy head.
Smell : roasted malt, caramel, chocolate aromas.
Tasted & mouthfeel : dark dried fruit with roasted, wood and spicy notes. Dry alcoholic finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Belgian strong dark ale.

Photo of kojevergas
3.65/5  rDev -7.1%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

.33cl bottled acquired at De Molen in Bodegraven and served into Antwerp Beer Passion Weekend 20cl stemware. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

A: Pours a four finger head of tan colour, fair cream and thickness, and amazing retention - especially for this high an ABV. The head's showing no signs of going down after four minutes. Colour is a dark brown with visible yeast particles.

Sm: Yeast, cream, caramel, and coffee. A mild strength aroma.

T: Cream opens to a caramelized malt foundation on top of which are notes of caramel, cream, coffee, and roasted barley. Alcohol is quite apparent, unfortunately. Complex but a bit imbalanced. Well built for the style.

Mf: Coarse - a bit overly so, and dry - but not enough. Doesn't quite suit the flavours like it should.

Dr: Hides its ABV alright. Very drinkable and of high quality. Fairly priced at the brewery. I'd have it again.

B

Photo of sweemzander
3.25/5  rDev -17.3%

Photo of klipper
4.5/5  rDev +14.5%

Photo of Bung
4.23/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz. Te usual ridiculous Belgian pour, blackish brown with the overflowing the glass cream colored head. Someone explain to me again why this is good? Anyways, looks how it should. Nice heavy lacing.

Aroma, loads of fig, brown sugar, prune and molasses.

Taste, baked brown sugar, plum up front pretty sweet. More toasted notes, malt and chestnut. Little bit of dark chocolate in there too. A nice earthy finish, peat, herbal hops, a slight oaky char. Pretty nice.

Medium body, but lively carbonation keeps it pretty easy to drink. Still coats pretty well. Really only a faint warming.
This was very nice, and much better than the De Molen attempts at stouts and porters.

Photo of Thomas_Picton
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Photo of AgentMunky
3.8/5  rDev -3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a brandy snifter. Bottled 13 February 2012.

A: MASSIVE, oversized head. Even a moderate pour nets 4+ fingers of head and threatens to overflow the glass. Impressive retention, but not a good start. Heavy lacing.

S: Vague fruits. Porterish dark, chocolate, nutty malts.

T: Excellent! Rich, complex, and rewarding. Very sweet, with a sticky-fruity side and a chocolate, malty character. Raisins, dates, plums, and other dark, sugary fruits swim around, with a touch of Belgian yeast, a hint of roast, and some definite chocolate (especially on the aftertaste).

M: From all that head, I expected a bit more carbonation. As it stands, it's thick, smooth, and a tad oppressive.

O: A good beer, but underwhelming. Would look elsewhere for my BSDA, but did not tarnish my opinion of De Molen.

Photo of t0rin0
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%

Photo of kaelingirl
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Photo of biboergosum
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version.

Photo of CheapBeerBuzz
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%

Photo of tbeckett
4/5  rDev +1.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.98/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very dark in brown, the ale could be easily mistaken as a porter. Except with the eruptive carbonation, nearly rocky tan head, and lacing decoration that covers nearly half the surface area of the glass, the beer is deceptively dark.

But that darkness doesn't translate to any roast character. Instead the aromas of heavy toast, kona coffees, walnut, and chocolate provide a foundation from which the estery twang of berries, cherries, vinous grapes, and apples spring from. An envelope of starch aromas seem both of fresh bread and spaghetti. Fresh cracked peppercorn and oak-like char gives a peppery note to decorate the fruit and malt components.

Flavors follow suit, with the sweeter tone of grapes, powdered sugar, a dash of brown sugar, slightly scorched toffee, toast char, chocolate, cherries, figs, dates, plumbs, and peppercorn all providing the balance of fruit and spice- giving the beer all the complexity and balance it needs. But it doesn't stop there. It continues to build the rich underpinnings of starchy malts with rich bread taste, Dopplebock-like melanoidin savoriness, meaty and light smoky taste to accompany vanilla and heavy cream. The beer goes a lot of directions at once.

Certainly full bodied despite its ample carbonation, the malt richness is heavy, semi-thick, and fully textured. Creamy from the onset, the marshmallowy texture extends well past mid palate and rests in expansive fashion on the tongue and envelops the mouth completely before the semi-malty, vinous tart, and slight warmth of carbonation signals the indefinite finish.

Very rich in malt character but not overly sweet, this is an interesting rendition of the Belgian strong dark ales that gets away from the supple and arid versions- this guy begs for a pairing of cobbler or bread pudding.

Photo of Sean9689
3.5/5  rDev -10.9%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

On-tap at Holy Grale at their De Molen Tap Takeover Event.

A - Pours dark brown in color, white head, thin collar, spotty lace.

S - Chocolate, malts, yeast, toffee, light roast. The sweetness isn't overpowering and works well with the roast & yeast notes. The booze is there, but doesn't impair the nuances.

T - Chocolate, booze, toasted malts, yeast, carmel. A little less sweet then the nose with a touch hotter booze note. More dark chocolate bitterness then the sweeter chocolate I picked out on the nose. Finish is toasted malts & caramel sweetness.

M - Medium body, good carbonation, creamy finish.

O - A nice Belgian Strong that has some good complexity and well-hidden alcohol notes. I like the bitter & sweet notes and it really works well together. Decent.

Photo of GRG1313
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Photo of Arno
3.18/5  rDev -19.1%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

appearance: Dark brown with a huge foam top. Great lacing!

smell: Dark choclate, ripe fruit, candi sugar malts.

taste: Sweet and bitter deep dark chocolate and licorice like. Some dark ripe fruits and quite a hint of alcohol. Is a bit like a stout, but sweeter.

mouthfeel: Medium carbonation. Medium thickness, just like the taste suggests.

overall: It's a good tasting beer. It has a nice deep flavor of all the nice things (Chocolate, ripe fruits, sweet and bitter), but lacks a bit of depth and development. Also it's just a tad too alcohol heavy tasting to really enjoy for me.

Photo of gford217
3.63/5  rDev -7.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

11.2oz bottle.

Pours very dark mahogany brown with a huge fluffy beige head that sticks around for ages and leaves tons of sticky lacing.

Aroma is very sweet with lots of candi sugar, chocolate and overripe dark fruits - sugar-coated raisins. Some oak and vanilla mixed in.

The taste has an initial kick that I wasn't expecting and is tough to place. Definitely some booze, chocolate and dark fruit. There is also a hint of tartness or something, can't pin it down. Boozy sweet finish.

Mouthfeel is highly carbonated, maybe too much for me, which lends to a lighter feel than I was expecting.

This is an interesting beer with a taste that had a lot going on. Sweet and boozy with some dark fruit and other things thrown in. Tasty though I couldn't drink more than one.

Photo of bpfrush
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Photo of drpimento
4.7/5  rDev +19.6%
look: 5 | smell: 4 | taste: 5 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.5

Lordy, what a great beer of amazing dualities! Poured at a good temperature with a grand, foamy, fluffy, billowy, thick, light tan head that lasts and lasts, plus good lacing. Color is a clear mahoganey with plenty of bubble trails. Aroma is a clean blend of malt, caramel, toffee, fruit, and yeast. Flavor is like nose and at first sweet, but then plenty bitter with the carbonic tang enhancing and elevating both the bitter and sweet. I find myself going back to ponder the sweet and then the bittter. Then again the bitter and then the sweet. I can't hardly imagine this beer being better. Body is full, but not too, carbonation is perfect. Finish is like flavor, of average length, very clean, and a hint warming. The only reason I don't give it a better rating in aroma is my snooter doesn't work so well. Fabulous beer.

Photo of Dope
3.9/5  rDev -0.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle dated 13/02/2012

A: A dark reddish brown pour with a big fluffy tan head. Fades slowly, very slowly. Leaves a foam island behind as well as decent trails of lacing as it fades.

S: Strong fruity figs and raisins up front. Loads of sweet caramel. A hint of cocoa? Mostly the strong and sweet fruitiness.

T: As in the nose, a strong fig and raisin presence up front. Caramel throughout. Chocolate kicks in the middle, a little stronger than in the nose but still subtle. Fades with a lingering earthy bitterness.

M: Medium-heavy body. Carbonation is spot on.

O: Interesting BSDA. It's fairly simple and very fruit-heavy. Surprising bitterness on the back end too. Solid beer, nothing too amazing however.

Photo of cwd
4.25/5  rDev +8.1%

Photo of avalon07
4.05/5  rDev +3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, tan-colored, foamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruits, malt, and bit of yeast. Typical Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

T: Tasted of some malt, dark fruits (plums, raisins), some yeast, and a hint of chocolate in the finish. Not a hint of alcohol in it. A very straightforward, likeable flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a crisp, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This is a solidly made, easy to like, drinkable beer.

Photo of BeerTruck
4/5  rDev +1.8%

Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
88 out of 100 based on 100 ratings.