Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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Ratings: 125
Reviews: 53
rAvg: 3.95
pDev: 11.65%
Wants: 5
Gots: 14 | FT: 1
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Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Quadrupel (Quad) |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

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Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010

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Ratings: 125 | Reviews: 53
Photo of asaharyev
3.98/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottle date: 13/02/2012

Appearance: Very dark brown, with a nice 1/4" of tan head that sticks around. No light gets through except for through the stem.

Aroma: Dark fruit and twizzlers jump out at first, with a strong sweetness, and good alcohol presence. Further notes of brown sugar and raisins come through, with molasses undertones throughout.

Taste: Much lighter body than expected, but still nice. There is some bitterness, but not a ton. Licorice and molasses come through most, with a strong alcohol presence. The roasted and toasted notes linger, but the sweet fruit/licorice flavors fade relatively quickly.

Overall: A very good beer, with a well rounded flavor that sits and lets you sip for a while. I'd like to try a fresh one, but there are no dated bottles in my local shop.

Photo of Mora2000
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to bu11zeye for sharing this 33cl bottle. Bottled 6-24-10.

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is very heavy on the caramel malt and roasted malt, along with some dark fruit mixed in. The beer has no hops in the aroma and smells very sweet.

The flavor is heavy on the dark fruit, toffee, brown sugar, chocolate, molasses, roasted malt and some nuttyness. The alcohol is very well hidden for a beer that is more than 10 percent in alcohol. A very complex, very malty stout. Very drinkable considering the ABV.

Medium mouthfeel and medium carbonation. A very nice Belgian-inspired Stout from De Molen.

Photo of RuudJH
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Brewed 25 march 2011, bottled 5 may 2011, in a 33 cl bottle.
81.7 EBU.

Dark brown colour, light brown head. This beer is very lively from the bottle. It tries to escape from it, has a huge head, so it's not easy to get the stuff in the glass.
Once you do, it's got nice aroma and flavour: dark roasted malts, nutts, coffee, some chocolate. Dark fruits like raisins, figs. Some fresh berry in the smell too.
Full flavoured bittersweetness all over.

Similar to Hel & Verdoemenis, from the same brewery, in all aspects of the beer.
''Beauty and Mercyless'' spells ''Hell and Damnation''.
I knew it.

Photo of Rifugium
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

First had: on tap at Capone's, Norristown, PA

I too am calling b.s. on the Russian imp. stout label on this one. It's a Belgian dark ale; there was nothing stout-like about this beer at all.

Poured a very hazy dark brown color with a small white cap of head. Aroma almost of a Scotch ale, boozy, sweet, malty, and woody. Tasted of alcohol-soaked oak, Belgian yeast, toasty malts, toffee, with lesser notes of vanilla, cocoa and bitter hops. Pretty nice, robust, with a medium body. Moderately drinkable, not something I'd have during a casual session, but it'd probably go good with a nice cigar.

Photo of beergoot
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Unique bottle label data: 13/02/2012

Thick, heavy, rocky head sitting atop a dark, garnet colored body. Heavy dark fruit aroma; dates and figs; caramel. The taste closely mirrors the the aroma with a stronger sugary sweetness lurking underneath. Heavy body with a lot of residual sugars present.

Rich and robust with a brazenly deep, dark sweetness throughout. Thick and chewy with a licorice-like tone. Boldly satisfying with a tangy sweetness and heft.

Photo of tbeckett
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen.

Photo of MasterSki
4/5  rDev +1.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Thanks to Jeffo for this one. Served in a FoBAB mini-pint glass. Bottled June 21st, 2010.

A - Two main things leap out at me here. One - this is over-primed and the resulting amount of tan foam is enormous. Two, this isn't an RIS. Ridiculous head retention that eventually settles to a thick cap, but leaves minimal lace behind. Body is extremely dark brown-red with some transparency when held to the light. Looks more like a quad or BSDA of some sort.

S - Taste is again heavy on quad flavors - raisins, dates, other dark fruits, light milk chocolate notes, a bit of rum-cake, and a faint hint of buttery diacetyl as well. Also a hint of alcohol, but nothing excessive. Strikes me more as a hybrid of various English and Belgian styles.

T - Again, it's extremely fruity, with toffee, treacle, cherries, brown and caramelized sugars, and a bit of nuttiness as well. There's a bit of the sharp alcohol bite that I get out of many scotch ales and quads. Finish is a bit harsh, with alcohol and mild astringency present.

M - It's a bit over-carbonated, which detracts from an otherwise creamy medium body. Dry finish, with some obvious alcohol warmth. Letting it sit for a while helps quite a bit.

D - Not sure what to make of this beer - you could have told me it was a quad, English strong ale, Belgian strong dark ale, English barleywine, scotch ale, or winter warmer and I probably would believe you. It's surprisingly easy to drink considering the ABV and the mild over-carbonation. I'd certainly give it another shot, but I wouldn't actively seek this one out.

Photo of SleepyMonk
4.01/5  rDev +1.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4

Poured in several stages due to the unexpected amount of carbonated head this Russian Imperial STout generates in a chalice glass. To me this seems very unusual to the style.

Appearance is very dark as expected, however, it comes with a tall tan head the size and integrity that one would expect from a Belgian strong ale for example.

Nose is full of soft coffee notes with a slightly over weight quantity of dark fruits.

In the mouth and across the tongue it is very strong up front with a delicate balance of espresso and bitter hops. The usual taste expectations of the Russian Stouts style are there, however, the bitterness definitely differentiates this from its peers.

This brings us to mouthfeel and I'm once again taken back to the question of carbonation. In the mouth there is a degree of weight and intensity, however this is beset on both sides by an intense carbonation that strongly effects the overall weight of the beer.

The carbonation issue is really just a thing of personal taste but it needs to be put out there, but, overall; this is a fantastic beer. Perhaps not as good as Rasputin, but thats a different beast altogether.

Photo of oberon
4.03/5  rDev +2%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Pours a somewhar murky russett brown with an almost perfect light beige one finger clingy head atop leaving a full broken ring of lace as it settles oh so slowly.Fruit with a hint of sherry vinegar in the nose wich Iam not sure is a good thing but works here,wow it's fruity.Fruity and cakey on the palate with some cake notes,the finsih has some yeasty spice notes.The alcohol is kept in control pretty good and the palate is a fruit attack.I liked it and would buy again.

Photo of Absumaster
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

The name of the beer refers to the translation in Dutch of the horrible soap "Bold and the Beautiful"

A dark brown, burgundy beer with a huge head that clings to the glass and never seems to settle.

Smell is like the Rochefort strain, spicy and estery. The spices remind of clove and juniper. The malts add a strong chocolaty and little roasted smell, accompanied by a grainy, somewhat husky smell. The alcohol is apparent in the smell and tickles the nose.

Taste is strong and sweet. The yeast is the main contributor of the taste. It adds spice that reminds of clove and juniper. This is a seriously sweet and strong beer, with chocolate and bready notes. The alcohol is hidden, but gives a warm sensation when swallowed. The beer is balanced but the husky smell is also apparent in the taste and gives the beer a little musty taste.

Photo of avalon07
4.05/5  rDev +2.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

A: Poured from a bottle to a goblet. Had a dark brown color and a cloudy consistency. There was a huge, tan-colored, foamy, long-lasting head. Good lacing.

S: A nice aroma of dark fruits, malt, and bit of yeast. Typical Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

T: Tasted of some malt, dark fruits (plums, raisins), some yeast, and a hint of chocolate in the finish. Not a hint of alcohol in it. A very straightforward, likeable flavor.

M: A well-carbonated beer with a crisp, dry finish. Medium-bodied.

O: This is a solidly made, easy to like, drinkable beer.

Photo of Mikecap
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%

Bottled in 2012

A: Pours a deep brown, nearly black with a large frothy khaki head that slowly fades.

S: Some sweet malts, chocolate and dark fruits. Get some molasses too, subtle earth as well. Very inviting smell.

T: Lots of chocolate up front, with dark fruit, molasses and a nice sweetness, that does not overpower. A bit of booze comes through as well.

M: Medium bodied and smooth, with a nice sweetness and solid carbonation. A nice sipping beer that is great even as it warms. A bit more body might benefit.

O: A real solid beer here, not akin to many of the BSDAs I've had. I get much more chocolatey sweetness than I'd expect, but I dig it!

Photo of Jeffo
4.1/5  rDev +3.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Got this at De Molen while visiting their shop.

Apparently this is a variation on their Rasputin Imperial Stout. From other sources, I've heard this is to be a rotating offering that is supposed to be a little easier to drink than their other big stouts.

From a bottle into a snifter

APPEARANCE: Pours dark brown but sits black in the glass with higher levels of carbonation evident. Produces a big three finger medium-thick looking mocha colored head with great retention. A decent foam cap remains until the end and leaves some nice lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Medium strength nose with hints of roasted malts, toffee and candy sugar. Some vanilla and oak in there, as well as a bit of rum, even though it's not barrel aged. Nice.

TASTE: Some roasted malts and toffee notes, with a good dose of brown sugar. Some vanilla and oak as well, much like the nose had advertised, and some spicy alcohol and heat at the finish, though it's well controlled. Mild and dry aftertaste and only a hint of bitter-sweetness lingers.

PALATE: Medium body but very creamy smooth on the palate. Goes down like silk with a bit of a burn at the end, finishing slightly dry on the palate.

OVERALL: This was a variation on Rasputin and I liked it much better than its forerunner. Very drinkable for the ABV as well; De Molen has definitely succeeded in that department. This one also tasted as though it'd been aged in rum barrels, which was an interesting surprise. Luckily I have a few more of these. Recommended.

Photo of CrazyDavros
4.16/5  rDev +5.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Pours brown with a stupidly large head, crazily over-carbed.
Nose shows chocolate fudge, raisins, faint roasted malt, cocoa, spicy hops, soft booze and golden syrup. Amazing.
Very similar flavours, more chocolate, raisins, booze and golden syrup. The roasted malt is more noticeable here.
Thick, syrupy body; a little too much.

Photo of obywan59
4.17/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a very dark brown, not quite opaque. A 4 finger tan head recedes becoming chunky as it goes, leaving a bit of thick, sticky lacing. and a mound of foam.

Very fruity with both dark dried fruit and grapes and some faint chocolate as well.

Very sweet!. A dessert beer? A light chocolatey bitterness, but there's also some significant dark toasted malt. Nice! Very winey, but more substantial, like a port or sherry. Light spice.

Moderatly full body, wih a light bite on the tongue, and a bit of warming in the throat. Smooth, the alcohol is barely noticable. Moderately sticky.

Very easy to drink considering the ABV. I could have downed three of these in a flash, except that the alcohol would have soon overtaken me. Elegant. Decadent.

Photo of lacqueredmouse
4.18/5  rDev +5.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Cheers to @LaitueGonflable for the beer. Cracked open with him after a day of terribly hard work.

Pours with an immense and almost comically voluminous head, so much so that I almost can't fit one 330ml bottle into two glasses. Body is thick and black-brown, heavily opaque. Head is light brown, and although it's amazingly frothy to begin with, it collapses leaving clumps of lace and a pillowed centre. Looks very good.

Ooh, nose is delicious with dark roastiness and slight aged dark characters, giving off very slight vinous characters of oak. Slight seltzer acidity to it, as though it's bubbling off all its carbon dioxide. Sweet boozy notes to it as well, giving some lovely port and bourbon characters. Lovely. Not as strong as some other examples, but nicely constructed.

Taste is very nice in the flavour department, but the feel is really quite surprisingly thin, leaving the palate open to a real sting from booze. In terms of flavour, the palate is dominated by a strong vinous, slightly astringent heat that gives off oaky spirits and liqueur filled chocolates. On the back, we get more of a grainy black note, which releases a nutty character and a very pleasantly smooth finish. Despite the heat, the beer has rounded you up and cuddles you back to sensibility.

Surprisingly drinkable for its profile, ABV and strength. A bold but well made Imperial Stout, that ticks many of the boxes for an exemplar of the style.

Photo of Bung
4.2/5  rDev +6.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz. Te usual ridiculous Belgian pour, blackish brown with the overflowing the glass cream colored head. Someone explain to me again why this is good? Anyways, looks how it should. Nice heavy lacing.

Aroma, loads of fig, brown sugar, prune and molasses.

Taste, baked brown sugar, plum up front pretty sweet. More toasted notes, malt and chestnut. Little bit of dark chocolate in there too. A nice earthy finish, peat, herbal hops, a slight oaky char. Pretty nice.

Medium body, but lively carbonation keeps it pretty easy to drink. Still coats pretty well. Really only a faint warming.
This was very nice, and much better than the De Molen attempts at stouts and porters.

Photo of qrazvan
4.25/5  rDev +7.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

A strong dark beer, very aromatic (herbs and chocolate) with a hidden alcohol taste afterwards. Highly recommended esp. for dark beer lovers.

Photo of DrinkSlurm
4.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle purchased for $5.99 at Calandro's in Baton Rouge, LA, poured into tulip. Pours a deep brown with awesome, perfect creamy off white head. Great dried fruit and boozey chocolate aromas. Wow...awesome chocolate, dried fruit, malty flavor with a hint of bitter hop. Some booze is present but not as much as I expected. So smooth and so creamy. The beer is like silk. This brew has one of the best "mouthfeel" ive ever had, especially one with such a high abv. This is a great brew...somewhat different than the normal Strong Dark, I think its less "spice" character than I normally attribute to the style, but its just so good. Go have one if you see it!

Photo of rarbring
4.3/5  rDev +8.9%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

The brew is foggy dark brown, a tan high head with good lacing.

The smell is sweet and herbal, reminds me of an liqueur, but also figs, toast, and coffee beans.

Tasting sweet, fig marmalade, sherry, dark chocolate and herbs.

Little carbonation, smooth and oily, a big body, a warm feeling.

Very nice with cheese after dinner. To me this is more like a Belgian Strong Dark Ale.

Photo of Phyl21ca
4.38/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle: Poured a deep cloudy brown color ale with a nice medium size foamy head with good retention and some good lacing. Aroma consists of sweet Belgian-style malt with notes of dry fruits and light candy notes. Taste is also a nice mix between some semi-sweet malt notes with some nice candy-like ester and some dry raisins and plums notes. Body is full with great carbonation and no apparent alcohol. Very nice beer to enjoy by the fireside on a cold winter night.

Photo of STEG
4.38/5  rDev +10.9%
look: 5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 4.5

Poured into an oversized wine glass from an 11.2oz bottle courtesy of jeffo. thanks man.

Pours a deep brown, nearly black color, opaque with the exception of the very base of the glass which rests a tawny brown hue. Heavily carbonated, a slow gusher which makes head very quickly which makes it fun to pour. Outstanding retention as well from the fine bubbled light brown sugar head.

Smell is almost quady, soapy notes, dark stone fruits, bakers chocolate and a date-centric finish. Almost like a chocolate version of how westy 8 smells.

Taste starts out with a smoky bitter chocolate chicory flavor. Followed by a hoppiness as well. End very sweet, almost like chocolate covered crystalized dates. 

Mouthfeel is a lot more carbonated and thin than I expected. Doesn't add to nor detract from the beer but not what I was expecting.

Overall I want more if these Jeff, I wanna put a year or 5 on these and see what they get going on.

Photo of jdhilt
4.42/5  rDev +11.9%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.5

Pours a four finger light tan head that fades slowly leaving a good lace. Dark opaque brown color, some yeast left in bottle. Good carbonation and medium bodied. Molasses nose and flavor is molasses, chocolate and dark cherry. Better flavor as it warms. Higher ABV is hidden. 330ml bottle $6.99 Julio's Liquors Marlboro, MA.

Photo of stoutopia
4.47/5  rDev +13.2%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

On tap In BLOWbeerBAR in Valladolid Spain. Very nice Russian Imperial Stout. It pours a black hole in your glass, with a little lightly brown head. Smell, is so roasted, with some chocolate, some toffe, lots of coffe, and strong hops, mixing. Flavour is so full, with lots of moka, chocolate, roasted malts, and rauch malts in it. Finish is hoppy and dry. Not so alcoholic. I would like to have another pint again...

Photo of StonedTrippin
4.63/5  rDev +17.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 5 | overall: 4.75

this is flat out up there with the best beers i have ever had, despite the fact that its nothing like a quad, or at least not like any i have ever had. brewed in 2012 the bottle tells me, i havent seen much of this one around, but found it on a dusty shelf down in the springs, score for me, this was on sale for like six bucks, what a steal! more head than you can imagine on the pour, i mean, its fizzing and frothing like a science experiment gone out of control, and i struggle to not waste any of the beer, the cap almost popped itself. the nose intrigues me right away, bitter orange peel and compost and again a yeast strain i have never encountered all grab me in a compelling fashion. what is this? not a quad as i know them, i mean, its not thick and sweet or even belgian in the least. totally different yeast, totally different grain build, but this one is about the synergistic whole, not the individual elements. there is a flavor here on the edge of fruity that comes on right after the initial rush of bubbles hits the tongue, but before the yeasty intensity sets in, and i cant quite place it. candied orange peel seems too sweet and acidic, a baked good of some kind, even a breakfast confection seems to heavy, and describing it as floral or blooming or even alive just doesnt do it justice. its familiar but not in beer, and i am in love with it here. the carbonation makes this drink like a session beer, the alcohol is wildly confusing to me, as the beer is only medium bodied without all the bubbles, but light as heck with them, and there isnt a sharpness of any kind. not sure about the yeast identification, its foreign to me, but id clearly does wonderful things to this beer. if this is what quad is in the netherlands, im moving. its that moving for me really. one of the best beers i have ever had, and reaffirms my new found love for de molen!!! this mouthfeel in this style is unheard of, and even if it tasted just okay i would score it well for that, but the fact that its so one of a kind yet totally incredible make it elite if not in a world of its own.

Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
88 out of 100 based on 125 ratings.