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Mooi & Meedogenloos - Brouwerij De Molen

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BA SCORE
88
very good

85 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 85
Reviews: 42
rAvg: 3.96
pDev: 8.59%
Wants: 4
Gots: 7 | FT: 1
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  10.20% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jeffo on 07-20-2010)
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MaseFace

Kentucky

3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

05-09-2013 21:06:59 | More by MaseFace
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CommanderOfAwesome

California

3.19/5  rDev -19.4%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3

Feb 2012 bottle opened April 27th 2013

A: Pours a ruby brown with an insane amount of head. I was almost worried about it being a gusher. Full hand light brown head.

S: Oh man, dark sweet fruits. Very over powering with a bit of burnt plastic on the end of the aroma.

T: Sweet dark fruits. Very powerful. Prunes, Raisins, grapes a hint of chocolate. Little too sweet for my taste.

M: Medium bodied, really carbonated, too much so IMO. Sticky sweet, that coats the mouth.

O: Really sweet, pungent beer. More on the quad side just really dark fruit sweetness. Not my favorite style or taste profile but its there if you're into that.

Serving type: bottle

04-27-2013 17:17:03 | More by CommanderOfAwesome
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obywan59

Virginia

4.18/5  rDev +5.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

Pours a very dark brown, not quite opaque. A 4 finger tan head recedes becoming chunky as it goes, leaving a bit of thick, sticky lacing. and a mound of foam.

Very fruity with both dark dried fruit and grapes and some faint chocolate as well.

Very sweet!. A dessert beer? A light chocolatey bitterness, but there's also some significant dark toasted malt. Nice! Very winey, but more substantial, like a port or sherry. Light spice.

Moderatly full body, wih a light bite on the tongue, and a bit of warming in the throat. Smooth, the alcohol is barely noticable. Moderately sticky.

Very easy to drink considering the ABV. I could have downed three of these in a flash, except that the alcohol would have soon overtaken me. Elegant. Decadent.

Serving type: bottle

04-25-2013 01:39:55 | More by obywan59
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MEW

Colorado

3.25/5  rDev -17.9%

04-25-2013 00:20:08 | More by MEW
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tuckerlikesbeer

Minnesota

3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

03-14-2013 02:44:16 | More by tuckerlikesbeer
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Sammy

Ontario (Canada)

3.91/5  rDev -1.3%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Bottle at Bar Volo(bottled May 26, 2011). Substantive bitterness, very coffee like bitterness. The aroma is very roast. Black bodied. Lacey. A long bitter finish.Average mouthfeel, and a small amount of chocolate malt. More of an imperial stout. Decent drinkability, although something I may not reach for again. A bomber is a lot for three people.Slightly drying aftertaste.

Serving type: bottle

02-08-2013 15:09:21 | More by Sammy
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Texasfan549

Texas

3.75/5  rDev -5.3%

02-04-2013 23:40:56 | More by Texasfan549
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kjkinsey

Texas

4/5  rDev +1%

02-04-2013 22:39:40 | More by kjkinsey
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DrinkSlurm

Connecticut

4.3/5  rDev +8.6%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.75 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle purchased for $5.99 at Calandro's in Baton Rouge, LA, poured into tulip. Pours a deep brown with awesome, perfect creamy off white head. Great dried fruit and boozey chocolate aromas. Wow...awesome chocolate, dried fruit, malty flavor with a hint of bitter hop. Some booze is present but not as much as I expected. So smooth and so creamy. The beer is like silk. This brew has one of the best "mouthfeel" ive ever had, especially one with such a high abv. This is a great brew...somewhat different than the normal Strong Dark, I think its less "spice" character than I normally attribute to the style, but its just so good. Go have one if you see it!

Serving type: bottle

01-16-2013 01:44:29 | More by DrinkSlurm
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Jules11788

California

4.5/5  rDev +13.6%

01-11-2013 23:05:35 | More by Jules11788
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Mebuzzard

Colorado

3.55/5  rDev -10.4%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

A good looking beer, but holy hell...the head was about 7 fingers! Dirty glass? No. Used another. Same. Whew, that's foam! And looks like chocolate milk.

Dark pour. The aroma is coffee and dark chocolate. A bit of berry and dark toast.

Coffee lingers in the flavor, but fades. The yeast and bread come out a bit, too, but not much. Cranberry and some berry come and go across the palate. A hint of nuttiness. Toffee.
Not quite as sweet or candy-like that many dark Belgians (beers) have, which makes it more drinkable.

Solid beer. Price is touch steep.

Serving type: bottle

01-07-2013 03:24:38 | More by Mebuzzard
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bostonryan

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +1%

12-22-2012 02:51:18 | More by bostonryan
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thierrynantes

France

3.95/5  rDev -0.3%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Beer bottle (33 cl.) purchased from Bière & Chopes, and tasted in 2012.

Appearance : dark red brown color with tan foamy head.
Smell : roasted malt, caramel, chocolate aromas.
Tasted & mouthfeel : dark dried fruit with roasted, wood and spicy notes. Dry alcoholic finish.
Drinkability : a good beer in the style Belgian strong dark ale.

Serving type: on-tap

12-08-2012 19:16:39 | More by thierrynantes
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kojevergas

Texas

3.65/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 4.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

.33cl bottled acquired at De Molen in Bodegraven and served into Antwerp Beer Passion Weekend 20cl stemware. 10.2% ABV confirmed.

A: Pours a four finger head of tan colour, fair cream and thickness, and amazing retention - especially for this high an ABV. The head's showing no signs of going down after four minutes. Colour is a dark brown with visible yeast particles.

Sm: Yeast, cream, caramel, and coffee. A mild strength aroma.

T: Cream opens to a caramelized malt foundation on top of which are notes of caramel, cream, coffee, and roasted barley. Alcohol is quite apparent, unfortunately. Complex but a bit imbalanced. Well built for the style.

Mf: Coarse - a bit overly so, and dry - but not enough. Doesn't quite suit the flavours like it should.

Dr: Hides its ABV alright. Very drinkable and of high quality. Fairly priced at the brewery. I'd have it again.

B

Serving type: bottle

12-05-2012 21:30:57 | More by kojevergas
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sweemzander

Illinois

3.25/5  rDev -17.9%

12-03-2012 14:06:16 | More by sweemzander
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klipper

Michigan

4.5/5  rDev +13.6%

12-02-2012 21:34:31 | More by klipper
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Bung

Michigan

4.23/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

11.2oz. Te usual ridiculous Belgian pour, blackish brown with the overflowing the glass cream colored head. Someone explain to me again why this is good? Anyways, looks how it should. Nice heavy lacing.

Aroma, loads of fig, brown sugar, prune and molasses.

Taste, baked brown sugar, plum up front pretty sweet. More toasted notes, malt and chestnut. Little bit of dark chocolate in there too. A nice earthy finish, peat, herbal hops, a slight oaky char. Pretty nice.

Medium body, but lively carbonation keeps it pretty easy to drink. Still coats pretty well. Really only a faint warming.
This was very nice, and much better than the De Molen attempts at stouts and porters.

Serving type: bottle

12-01-2012 02:34:20 | More by Bung
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Thomas_Picton

Florida

4/5  rDev +1%

11-25-2012 20:44:37 | More by Thomas_Picton
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AgentMunky

California

3.8/5  rDev -4%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Poured from a 33cL bottle into a brandy snifter. Bottled 13 February 2012.

A: MASSIVE, oversized head. Even a moderate pour nets 4+ fingers of head and threatens to overflow the glass. Impressive retention, but not a good start. Heavy lacing.

S: Vague fruits. Porterish dark, chocolate, nutty malts.

T: Excellent! Rich, complex, and rewarding. Very sweet, with a sticky-fruity side and a chocolate, malty character. Raisins, dates, plums, and other dark, sugary fruits swim around, with a touch of Belgian yeast, a hint of roast, and some definite chocolate (especially on the aftertaste).

M: From all that head, I expected a bit more carbonation. As it stands, it's thick, smooth, and a tad oppressive.

O: A good beer, but underwhelming. Would look elsewhere for my BSDA, but did not tarnish my opinion of De Molen.

Serving type: bottle

10-28-2012 06:27:03 | More by AgentMunky
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t0rin0

California

3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

09-02-2012 16:06:21 | More by t0rin0
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kaelingirl

Massachusetts

4/5  rDev +1%

08-10-2012 17:53:14 | More by kaelingirl
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biboergosum

Alberta (Canada)

3.9/5  rDev -1.5%
look: 4 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

330ml bottle. "Beautiful & Ruthless", eh? There must be more to that...

This beer pours a clear, very dark ruby hue, with three fingers of foamy, puffy beige head, which leaves some nice hanging swaths of sudsy webbed lace around the glass as it evenly abates.

It smells of lightly toasted, kind of grainy malt, some musty ashy notes, middling earthy black fruit, a bit of dry nutty coffee, and soft leafy, weedy hops. The taste is much fruitier, and fuller than I was initially led to expect - caramel malt, enveloped in rounded dark, slightly sour drupe flesh, some further Fig Newtons essence, a twinge of green Belgian yeastiness, biscuity dark chocolate, oily roasted nuts, and mild earthy, still a wee bit ashy hops. The big ABV does a stellar job of staying on the down low.

The carbonation is a tad sprightly, but generally even and structurally sound, the body a sturdy medium-heavy weight, and pretty well smooth, with just a subtle metallic burp from the booze barbarian at the gate. It finishes on the sweet side, the fruity malt flexing it muscles still, but hardly overdoing it with the latent floral, sassy hops having a thing or two to say in the matter.

Well, a decent stroke at one of my favourite styles, and with a north of 10%, integrated ABV to boot, quite drinkable. Now I can see my lost in translation error at the outset - this is, more or less, one of the Bold and the Beautiful, Dutch version.

Serving type: bottle

08-07-2012 00:50:55 | More by biboergosum
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CheapBeerBuzz

California

3.5/5  rDev -11.6%

08-01-2012 23:45:50 | More by CheapBeerBuzz
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tbeckett

Ontario (Canada)

4/5  rDev +1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Birthday gift from volcanicbeat. Bottled June 24, 2010.

A - As far as I can tell the pour is black with some moderate carbonation coming up. A gentle pour created a fairly thick, 3 finger beige head with only about half the bottle getting in before I stopped. Good rings of lace and a finger of retention with an ice cream scoop hill in the middle.

S - Dark fruit, raisins, some nice spirit notes, brown sugar and nuts. A nice aroma.

T - Nutty again with dark fruit, a bit of raisin again, sugar. Licorice and chocolate seem to come through too. Pretty complex and pretty sweet too.

M - Good carbonation, full body and a sweet, dry finish.

O/D - A fairly pleasant BSDA. A touch sweet but otherwise nice and complex while bringing some new and different flavours to the table while hiding the big ABV pretty well. A good one from De Molen.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2012 08:19:47 | More by tbeckett
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BEERchitect

Kentucky

3.98/5  rDev +0.5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Very dark in brown, the ale could be easily mistaken as a porter. Except with the eruptive carbonation, nearly rocky tan head, and lacing decoration that covers nearly half the surface area of the glass, the beer is deceptively dark.

But that darkness doesn't translate to any roast character. Instead the aromas of heavy toast, kona coffees, walnut, and chocolate provide a foundation from which the estery twang of berries, cherries, vinous grapes, and apples spring from. An envelope of starch aromas seem both of fresh bread and spaghetti. Fresh cracked peppercorn and oak-like char gives a peppery note to decorate the fruit and malt components.

Flavors follow suit, with the sweeter tone of grapes, powdered sugar, a dash of brown sugar, slightly scorched toffee, toast char, chocolate, cherries, figs, dates, plumbs, and peppercorn all providing the balance of fruit and spice- giving the beer all the complexity and balance it needs. But it doesn't stop there. It continues to build the rich underpinnings of starchy malts with rich bread taste, Dopplebock-like melanoidin savoriness, meaty and light smoky taste to accompany vanilla and heavy cream. The beer goes a lot of directions at once.

Certainly full bodied despite its ample carbonation, the malt richness is heavy, semi-thick, and fully textured. Creamy from the onset, the marshmallowy texture extends well past mid palate and rests in expansive fashion on the tongue and envelops the mouth completely before the semi-malty, vinous tart, and slight warmth of carbonation signals the indefinite finish.

Very rich in malt character but not overly sweet, this is an interesting rendition of the Belgian strong dark ales that gets away from the supple and arid versions- this guy begs for a pairing of cobbler or bread pudding.

Serving type: bottle

07-27-2012 05:15:26 | More by BEERchitect
Mooi & Meedogenloos from Brouwerij De Molen
88 out of 100 based on 85 ratings.