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Hel & Verdoemenis Bordeaux B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Bordeaux B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Bordeaux B.A.

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BA SCORE
83
good

10 Ratings
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Ratings: 10
Reviews: 6
rAvg: 3.62
pDev: 17.4%
Wants: 13
Gots: 2 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  13.00% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes/Commercial Description:
This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: Jeffo on 10-13-2010)
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Reviews by tbeckett:
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2/5  rDev -44.8%
look: 1.5 | smell: 3 | taste: 1.5 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 2

Bottle from the De Molen bottle shop. Brewed 31 March 2010. Bottled 21 September 2010. Bottle number 188.

A - Pours dark, dark brown opaque except when tilted and held to the light. No head at all. Some mild visible carbonation coming up the sides. Agitation gets a film on top that goes fast. This beer hit a few branches coming down the ugly tree.

S - Vinous, alcoholic. Licorice and roasted malts. Tobacco. Smells OK but isn't exactly inviting.

T - Alcohol is fairly strong. Really dry, chalky chocolate. Grapes. A little oak is there I think. There is a sharp sort of whiskey note there in the finish which isn't exactly pleasant. Not exactly my thing. Quick sips at the beginning were quite tame but an entire mouthful is more like petrol and dirt in my mouth. Not tasty.

M - Medium-ish body. Really harsh lingering sweet/alcoholic note. Mild carbonation.

O/D - It's obviously the barrel that's affecting this because I like the original. Something about the Bordeaux isn't jiving with the stout in a good way for me unfortunately. I guess I can't like everything by these guys, it's just a shame I carried this across the Atlantic in my backpack to pour most of it down the drain. Creativity doesn't always mean quality.

tbeckett, May 14, 2011
More User Reviews:
Photo of largadeer
3.95/5  rDev +9.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Bottle from Baggio. Thanks!

Dark brown viscous body, near opaque. Minimal carbonation, no head. Very chocolate dominant nose, dark and bitter with tart fruit, some vinous notes, molasses, slightly peppery with cigar, smoke. Pretty complex aroma. Palate is fruity, smoky, huge chocolate notes; some tannins from the oak and a big vinous character. Roasty, bitter, smoky, very long finish. Intense but very enjoyable.

largadeer, Mar 04, 2012
Photo of psiweaver
4.22/5  rDev +16.6%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Poured into my Oakquinox taster.

A: pours a dark black with no head and very little carbonation.

S: smells of roasted malts with some vinous quality from the bordeaux barrels.

T: great flavor with a very interesting vinous quality to the stout a very interesting mix that I highly enjoyed.

M: very easy to drink with a nice amount of carbonation and integration of alcohol.

overall this is a great stout thats worth searching out and is a major recommendation.

psiweaver, Apr 17, 2011
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.5/5  rDev -3.3%

ygtbsm94, Dec 30, 2011
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3.5/5  rDev -3.3%

spycow, Oct 26, 2014
Photo of Jeffo
3.35/5  rDev -7.5%
look: 1 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 1 | overall: 2.5

This was served at The 2nd BOREFTS Festival at De Molen in Bodegraven. I was too busy drinking the Black Damnation 666 and Black Damnation V - Double Black, that I actually missed this one. Luckily there were bottles to buy in the shop.

Note: Brewed 31 March 2010 and bottled 21 September 2010.

Bottle 256 of 600

From a bottle into a snifter

APPEARANCE: Pours out dark brown and flat. A few bubbles form, but no head. Black body and no carbonation evident. This always disappoints, and unfortunately it's hit or miss with De Molen's H&V line.

SMELL: Roasted malt and touches of dark chocolate. The barrel has lent a good amount of whisky, vanilla, and notes of oak. Bold aromas and quite nice.

TASTE: Roasted malts, some sweet caramel, dark pure chocolate, and plenty of barrel. Whisky notes, vanilla, and some oak, much like the nose had indicated. A bold and boozy aftertaste of whisky, roasted malt, and some dark chocolate is long lasting, but the whisky and alcohol notes are more dominant. Tasty for sure.

PALATE: Here's where the beer falls flat, literally. Thick, syrupy body, but no carbonation whatsoever. Flat. Goes down fine, no bite at all, and finishes sticky and syrupy. Disappointing for a beer, but kind of liquor like, so it's not awful.

OVERALL: A very good brew with lost of nice flavor and a very impressive nose, but the lack of carbonation really hurt. Some bubbles would fill out the look obviously, but it would also give the flavors more support on the palate. Not to mention, it would actually feel like a beer instead of port wine. A lot of the H&V incarnations have been flat, so I'm never sure if it's intentional, but I certainly hope it was just a flat bottle. I'd be glad to try another bottle if I can get one, as the taste profile showed a lot of the good stuff. A bit of carbonation and this would be great.

Jeffo, Oct 13, 2010
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4.25/5  rDev +17.4%

baybum, Aug 20, 2014
Photo of STEG
4.25/5  rDev +17.4%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

No head, almost completely black. flat, I just played russian roulette with DeMolen again and lost. Demolen is 2/4 in carbonation with me.

Smell dark chocolate, vinous notes, dark chocolate cherry cordials.

Taste is chocolatey, smokey, vinous, I feel this had just about the right amount of time in the barrels, though I'd be interested in trying it with a little more. Outstanding flavor overall.

Mothfeel is just like a bordeaux smooth with zero carbonation which makes for an interesting overall drinking experience. its like a chocolate bordeaux, very interesting stuff.

I could manage a 12 oz of this flat, delicious beverage, but I think I'd struggle through a 750ml

Thanks for the experience jeffo, I will probably want another one of these in the future.

STEG, Dec 31, 2010
Photo of MasterSki
3.65/5  rDev +0.8%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

Bottle from Jeffo. Thanks dude. First and only vintage from 2010. Served in a Hill Farmstead tulip.

A - White foam quickly settles to a thin ring. Very dark brown body, with no lacework.

S - Initially it smells like regular Hel & Verdoemenis. Brown and chocolate malts, biscuit and molasses, and only light oaky vanilla and wine flavors. There's also a touch of alcohol in there. As the beer warms up some peppery red wine comes out a tad more.

T - The taste is quite similar, with a mix of biscuit, chocolate, and a hint of roast and smoke. Not as vinous as the aroma, and perhaps a touch oxidized. The finish is a tad flaccid with a touch of cardboard. Probably should have drank this one earlier, although it's only two years old.

M - Medium body, low carbonation, smooth texture, a bit of alcohol warmth, and a dry and tannin-heavy finish.

D - I think it's better than the current 3.55 average score, but it's still one of my least favorite Hel & Verdoemenis variants. Perhaps Menno needs to give this one another shot, as it seems like there's quite a bit of bottle variation going on. Would certainly try this again, but wouldn't seek it out actively.

MasterSki, Nov 30, 2012
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3.5/5  rDev -3.3%

westcoastbeerlvr, Jan 08, 2013
Hel & Verdoemenis Bordeaux B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
83 out of 100 based on 10 ratings.