Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen
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Reviews by DaPeculierDane:
3.33/5 rDev -21.3%
Thank you John.
Brewed: 23 Jul 2009
Bottled: 22 Aug 2010
Consumed: 21 Apr 2012
EBC Colour 308.9
Chechz hops, Bittering hops Premianl, and Chechz Saaz
To be consumed at 15 C
One of 96 bottles produced.
Dark brown but not tar or black. Completely flat.
Aroma of char and vanilla. Noticeably boozy. Chocolate powder.
Tastes like Lawrenceberg, maple syrup, liquid brown sugar, vanilla extract blended with maple syrup an sugar, and bourbon blended chocolate stout which has been diluted through boiling after being mixed 2:1 with sugar.
Mouthfeel: Sweet. Sickly sweet. It’s a good thing this bottle is so small. There is a redeeming touch of twang at the end but for the most part this is a flat, sugary, syrupy mess. It is like drinking warm syrup.
Drinkability: Nil. This beer has been in a refrigerator for two years. Perhaps that did something to it??? This is not a very enjoyable beer. BBA freaks would love it but it’s not my cup of tea. Too thick and sweet. It may have been better younger when it would have been balanced with a greater hop presence or later when its tar like state would be more respectable. Some carbonation would help. It has none.
04-22-2012 02:49:25 | More by DaPeculierDane
More User Reviews:
4.11/5 rDev -2.8%
Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Wild Turkey barrel variant of Hel & Verdoemenis shows pretty much the same color as the last two variants that were enjoyed before it (shocking, right?); black in the center and dark brown around the edges. This one show a bit more carbonation liveliness with an actual head that forms momentarily before fading to a lighter colored collar.
Robust and powerful aroma; I'm starting to learn that most of the Hel & Verdoemenis series of beers are quite strong and potent, even when you already consider that they're all 10%+ ABV Russian imperial stouts. Dark, bitter chocolate, moderate amounts of oak, smooth, warming bourbon, and some back o' the nostrils, ashy roast and char. Definitely a nose-hair burner, but the booze is integrated much better in this particular variant, methinks.
The first sip is shockingly just a little sweeter than the last two H&V beers, and it's certainly a welcomed change. Again, the beer is full of plentiful dark chocolate, roasty malt, and lighter amounts of coffee, but there's a swimming undercurrent of sweet creaminess that really tames the background of dry oak and warming bourbon. This subtle, yet powerful sweetness is exactly what I feel was lacking in the first two variants we sampled - I'm glad it finally showed up.
That's not to say that this brew isn't boozy, though - it's 11% ABV, and it demands sippage and respect just as well as any other 11% ABV stout, but the touch of sweet, underlying cream provides the balance that really does wonders for the drinkability. As with the others, the mouth feel would benefit from a bit more thickness to match the robustness of the aromas and flavors, but this variant contains a little more carbonation, which definitely helps some, too.
I thought this would be my least favorite of the three Hel & Verdoemenis variants we tried that night, mainly because I'm not a huge fan of Wild Turkey (and it had the lowest online ratings of the three). But low and behold, it was actually my favorite of them all, and by quite a large margin. The key is the mild sweetness, helping to blunt the heavy booze and roast.
07-30-2013 11:33:04 | More by tectactoe
4.05/5 rDev -4.3%
Thanks to Jeffo. Tasted 8/21/2011
A: Pours, dark, black, with no head and few bubbles ringing around my glass.
S: Really nice aroma: huge bourbon, vanilla and molasses. Following this, nutty dark chocolate, rum raisin, and roast espresso giving a bite to some slightly boozy elements in the end.
T: Dark chocolate up front, espresso bitterness and whiskey, biting alcohol blending with spicy malts and wood on the breath, sweeter vanilla caramel lingering in the finish.
M: Smooth, as you come to expect from this series, but on the thin side, not really coating the palate with these great flavors as much as I would like. Definitely a sipper.
O: Really great H&V treatment overall. The nose, with those great bourbon notes, knocks it out of the park, but the flavor can't quite meet the initial expectations of the smell.
08-21-2011 22:46:45 | More by jbeatty
4.43/5 rDev +4.7%
Thanks to Cavie for sharing this bottle. Excited to try this one.
The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is heavy on the roasted malt and chocolate, with an overwhelming amount of bourbon mixed in. I also get quite a bit of oak mixed in on the aroma.
The flavor is also great. I get a lot chocolate and roasted malt, as well as all of the notes you expect from a bourbon-barrel aged beer: wood, vanilla, maple and whiskey. There is also a little bit of coffee, although it is faint and overpowered by the other flavors. The alcohol is quite noticeable.
Medium carbonation and thick, chewy mouthfeel.
Glad I got to try this one, as it didn't disappoint.
09-06-2011 03:52:58 | More by Mora2000
3.83/5 rDev -9.5%
330 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 2/7/2013.
Appearance - Black with a hint of transparency. Small off-white head. Medium collar.
Smell - Lots of intense roasted malt. Slightly fruity. Some whiskey, but not all that intense.
Taste - More whiskey in the flavor. A little nutty. Not much barrel character, just some bourbon liquor. Finishes with a lingering oak flavor.
Mouthfeel - Overcarbonated, but not too badly. Boozy. Medium heavy.
Overall - My palate is shot at this point, but it's still really tasty.
01-21-2014 03:19:37 | More by Alieniloquium
4.53/5 rDev +7.1%
Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with funkydelic and I at an impromptu tasting! First batch (96 bottles)! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller sampler wine glass. Poured a massively dark brownwith a minimal light tan head. There was no lacing evident throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, dark chocolate, wood, and dark fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, roasted malt, dark chocolate, coffee, wood, and subtle sweet alcohol. It had a medium feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was just an excellent brew. The aroma on this one was excellent. So much so, it actually took me awhile to take my first sip as I kept going back to smell it over and over. Once it did hit my palate I knew I was in the presence of a great beer. The flavor was very complex and smooth. All aspects of this one just seemed to work in unison to make the others stand out. Really a great beer that I was very happy to have the opportunity to try!
05-20-2011 11:17:08 | More by thagr81us
4.43/5 rDev +4.7%
Jeffo and I had an IP trade over in Belgium. He hands me this block of beers that have been wrapped in cardboard and tape. He says "Stick this [stuff] in your luggage and you're good to go". I get home to find that, among other sick bottles, he's included a bottle of this treasure. I'm pretty sure my wife gets sick of me yelling in happiness when I open boxes/packages like this one.
A - Near black pour into a La Chouffe (Magic Chouffe) tulip. All 18cl of it...haha. Good head, thin lacing. Lacing returns with every swirl, then goes back down to thin layer.
S - Chocolate, vanilla, bourbon. Nice aroma going on here. I get a good amount of the fudge and bourbon mix. It seems to take on the barrel well without overpowering the nose.
T - Starts mild as what I'd call a typical stout, then quickly makes a smooth transition to vanilla and light bourbon. Bourbon is smooth and pleasant. Bourbon flavor gives a noticeable amount of wood in the back part of each taste...best stated as a light charred oak. This mixes with coffee at the end of the flavor. Coffee remains for entire last 1/2 of the flavor, with mild vanilla lingering. When flavor sits on the tongue between sips, coffee dominates. Bourbon "sting" is a little bit evident, esters clear the nose but don't dominate or burn the tongue. Slight chocolate/fudge at the end, but only noticeable after a few sips. Really not as much fudge as the nose would indicate. 13%? Wow, I literally just noticed this (I wrote that down while tasting). Really not evident at all. Much less evident than, for example, in a bottle of BCBS. I would've guessed around 9% based on style and barrel aging.
M - Medium, smooth and works well with the beer. Quite enjoyable and appropriate. Carbonation remains throughout the entire serving.
O - Very good beer. I didn't quite get the upfront fudge that the aroma lead me to anticipate, but the bourbon was right on target. I sipped it slowly since I only had one (18cl bottles are BS, btw), but I would've returned for multiple servings at a bar or if I could have bought a case.
09-17-2011 01:53:18 | More by claaark13
3.5/5 rDev -17.3%
Popery shared this tasty treat. Thanks!
Pours a rather sludgy dark brown, not quite black but very viscous. Pretty much no carbonation.
Quite a bit of boozy bourbon deliciousness on the nose. Pretty hot, roasty, bit of molasses and dark chocolate. A surprising amount of booze appears as it warms. The barrel could be integrated a lot better here.
The palate is better than the nose, but it's still pretty damn hot. There are some nice flavors here, licorice and roasted malt, old leather, oak, brash bourbon. Plenty of sharp booze, too. The body is full, carbonation is low. The finish lingers with a lot of tannin and booze.
It's a nice sipper, but it's pretty unrefined stuff, slightly harsh. Still worth a try.
08-06-2011 04:37:02 | More by largadeer
4.11/5 rDev -2.8%
A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a thin dark tan head that quickly died down, leaving a bit of lacing on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate to strong aromas of bourbon from the barrel aging are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has lots of flavors of bourbon along with associated notes of vanilla and hints of chocolate from the underlying malts.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation with lots of warming from the bourbon.
O: This beer is nice if you like bourbon but the barrel aging really masks the flavors of the underlying beer. It tastes rather strong, but most of the alcohol that is noticeable comes from the bourbon.
04-19-2013 21:20:50 | More by metter98
3.59/5 rDev -15.1%
Drank from my 1950's St Sixtus chalice
A - Pours the classic dark ebony colour with minimal head.
S - Aromas of vanilla, wood, oak and molasses.
TO - Up front some vanilla followed by some coffee and massive boozy bourbon flavours. The finish is very boozy and sticky sweet.
M - Medium to full with low carbonation. A bit thin.
O - The Europeans tend to struggle with this type of beer. It is not balanced at all and lack complexity. When measured with some US counterparts it leaves much to be desired.
09-08-2013 16:00:43 | More by eric5bellies
4.13/5 rDev -2.4%
Picked these up at de Molen beer shop as soon as I found out they had it.
Comes in a small 18cl bottle.
Bottle number 1458 of 1560.
Brewed on October 10th 2010
Bottled on 14 and 21 Februari
Opens with a big hiss. Hopefull as some the bigger de Molen Stouts tend to be flat.
Pours pitch black. Almost no head or carbonation visible.
Lots of barrel on the nose upfront. The Hel en Verdoemenis I also recognise. Dark Choclate, Coffee, bitterness and some alcohol.
Sweetness, vanilla but also bitter chocolate and coffee upfront in the flavors. A roasty kind of coffee taste lingers afterwards. The nose promised some alcohol but the mouth doesn't come through on that one and that's a good thing.
A light body, smooth and yes there is some carbonation. Not as boozy as the original Hel en Verdoemenis. I'm very much convinced that this one will get better with age. The flavors might just have to blend a little more.
I'm glad I got my hands on a bunch of these. Won't open one for a while as I feel that this needs to age but once it's done... I think this could be one of the best barrel aged RIS I have tried. Will (re)review this again... and again.
02-26-2011 17:08:50 | More by doopiedoopiedoo
Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 86 ratings.