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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

90 Ratings
THE BROS
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Ratings: 90
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 4.24
pDev: 9.2%
Wants: 48
Gots: 19 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: doopiedoopiedoo on 02-26-2011)
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4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

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Photo of Ohsaycanyoubeer
4.48/5  rDev +5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

18cl bottle #1520, shared with drowland. Pours jet black without a head. Slight bourbon aroma, sweet vanilla. Taste is roasty coffee, the bourbon comes out and burns slightly going down, even then, hides the 13% wonderfully. Very ashy. Sweet and delicious. I’m quite sure that this lives up to the top 50 hype, very, very good. A great example of the beer showing the characteristics of the Bourbon.

Ohsaycanyoubeer, Feb 20, 2012
Photo of Beerenauslese
4.47/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

I am drinking bottle 804 of 1560 bottles, which was bottled around 14/21 February, 2011. ABV is 13%.

Body is very dark brown. Aggressive pour into a brandy snifter produces only a slight tan head, that quickly dissipates into a fine ring, with swirls of light suds on the surface.

Smells of dark roasted malt, whiskey alcohol, vanilla, dark fruit, prunes, and oak. A lot going on with this.

Tastes of dark roasted malt, a little powdery char, luscious dark fruit, sour but also sweet, and pretty boozy from the whiskey. Has a nice hoppy bitter finish, but not as bitter as I'd expect for a 99.9 EBU beer.

Body is medium, and there is a bit of a sticky sweetness, and just a small amount of carbonation. Overall, tastes pretty smooth.

This is a great RIS, very flavorful and very potent, in taste and in alcohol. This beer makes a perfect desert beer or night-capper.

Beerenauslese, Mar 24, 2011
Photo of drabmuh
4.47/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Thorpe recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Misto B.A. versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was the winner (by a nose) to me.

Again, beer is black, very little head, low carbonation, no lacing, looks like a barrel aged stout to me.

Aroma is better in this one, much much more bourbon, still quite smooth, nice follow up roastiness and mild vanilla and oak. I'm looking forward to this.

I want a beer to push back a little, it is easy to overdo it but still, this beer is sweet, has the bourbon almost immediately, doesn't finish too harshly, leaves you wanting more. It's sweet but not cloying, bourbon flavored but not hot. Mouthfeel is great, it is a good beer all around. This one had the most aggressive and complex flavor profile, that's why it wins for me.

Pours a near-black color with a very thin mocha head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves just a few bubbles behind. The nose has a ton of bourbon, though it's pretty smooth. Roast and chocolate in the background along with some mild vanilla and booze. The flavor is dominated by the bourbon, though no complaints here as it is quite nice. Oak and vanilla plus some chocolate. Body is a bit boozy and not quite as smooth or creamy as the Misto version. Really nice, still. Great beer; this was a really fun comparison set.

drabmuh, May 16, 2011
Photo of Mora2000
4.43/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Cavie for sharing this bottle. Excited to try this one.

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is heavy on the roasted malt and chocolate, with an overwhelming amount of bourbon mixed in. I also get quite a bit of oak mixed in on the aroma.

The flavor is also great. I get a lot chocolate and roasted malt, as well as all of the notes you expect from a bourbon-barrel aged beer: wood, vanilla, maple and whiskey. There is also a little bit of coffee, although it is faint and overpowered by the other flavors. The alcohol is quite noticeable.

Medium carbonation and thick, chewy mouthfeel.

Glad I got to try this one, as it didn't disappoint.

Mora2000, Sep 06, 2011
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4.43/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Jeffo and I had an IP trade over in Belgium. He hands me this block of beers that have been wrapped in cardboard and tape. He says "Stick this [stuff] in your luggage and you're good to go". I get home to find that, among other sick bottles, he's included a bottle of this treasure. I'm pretty sure my wife gets sick of me yelling in happiness when I open boxes/packages like this one.

A - Near black pour into a La Chouffe (Magic Chouffe) tulip. All 18cl of it...haha. Good head, thin lacing. Lacing returns with every swirl, then goes back down to thin layer.

S - Chocolate, vanilla, bourbon. Nice aroma going on here. I get a good amount of the fudge and bourbon mix. It seems to take on the barrel well without overpowering the nose.

T - Starts mild as what I'd call a typical stout, then quickly makes a smooth transition to vanilla and light bourbon. Bourbon is smooth and pleasant. Bourbon flavor gives a noticeable amount of wood in the back part of each taste...best stated as a light charred oak. This mixes with coffee at the end of the flavor. Coffee remains for entire last 1/2 of the flavor, with mild vanilla lingering. When flavor sits on the tongue between sips, coffee dominates. Bourbon "sting" is a little bit evident, esters clear the nose but don't dominate or burn the tongue. Slight chocolate/fudge at the end, but only noticeable after a few sips. Really not as much fudge as the nose would indicate. 13%? Wow, I literally just noticed this (I wrote that down while tasting). Really not evident at all. Much less evident than, for example, in a bottle of BCBS. I would've guessed around 9% based on style and barrel aging.

M - Medium, smooth and works well with the beer. Quite enjoyable and appropriate. Carbonation remains throughout the entire serving.

O - Very good beer. I didn't quite get the upfront fudge that the aroma lead me to anticipate, but the bourbon was right on target. I sipped it slowly since I only had one (18cl bottles are BS, btw), but I would've returned for multiple servings at a bar or if I could have bought a case.

claaark13, Sep 17, 2011
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4.38/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brew is ranked really highly on the other site, but for some reason, the 96 bottle first batch didn't get onto the site here. Really glad De Molen decided to brew this one again, and to bottle a reasonable amount of it as well. Got this bottle from the De Molen shop in Bodegraven.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifter.
Batch #2. Brewed 10 Oct 2010 and bottled 14/21 Feb 2011.
Bottle 736 of 1560.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: A black pour produces a very small, faint, tan head that vanishes almost immediately. Head barely makes an appearance and is gone. A stringy wisp and ring remain. Jet black body with zero carbonation evident. Ring remains but leaves no lacing down the glass. Thick looking stout, but average at best.

SMELL: A big nose for sure. Travels through the room. Roasted malts, dark bakers chocolate and some faint espresso notes. Barrel is definitely there. Bourbon notes with a good dose of vanilla and some brown sugar. A touch of booze in there as well. Lots of barrel without dominating. Very enticing.

TASTE: Lots of flavor. Roasted and charred malts with a good dose of pure, dark baker's chocolate and sweet caramel. Lots of barrel again, with some bourbon, oak, and a shot of vanilla. A big, bold and lingering aftertaste of barrel, roasted malts, and a touch of alcohol. Bourbon, vanilla, sweet brown sugar and roasted malts linger and linger. Barrel is definitely the front runner, though it doesn't overwhelm the base beer. Very well done.

PALATE: Thick, full body with very low levels of carbonation. Luckily this one is carbonated, as De Molen has had troubles in this department with their higher ABV stuff. Heavy and syrupy on the palate, though not overly creamy as a result. Goes down smooth with a bit of a burn after the swallow and finishes relatively mouth coating. Palate fits the beer very well.

OVERALL: It's obvious why this brew ranks so highly. Definitely one of De Molen's more barrel forward BA stouts, but done extremely well, without dominating the base beer. Still somewhat boozy for top marks, but given a little bit of time, and this will turn into a gem. A bold, flavorful, and superbly crafted barrel aged imperial stout. Worth tracking down for sure.

EDIT: With a huge thanks to Dennoman, Doopie and I were able to try a complete H&V Wild Turkey vertical, including the first batch 96 bottle nip that was brewed in July 2009 and bottled in August 2010. This one was the clear favorite, edging out the 2nd batch and wiping the floor with the 3rd and most recent vintage. The first batch shared many of the same qualities with the 2nd, but was less boozy, more chocolate forward, and had some pronounced toffee and butterscotch flavors as well. Absolutely decadent, and a clear 5 for taste and aroma. Cheers again for this opportunity Dennis. Never dreamed I'd see this.

Jeffo, Mar 02, 2011
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4.35/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle 1522 of 1560 sent to me by Jeff. Thanks again!!

The pour comes out inactive carbonation wise which seems to be a trend with these De Molen beers. I give it a jostle to try and conjur out some head but not happenning. The color is a half shade lighter than used motor oil and a maple syrup brown coats the glass after a swirl. All in all, nothing overly great about the appearance.

Then magic happens.

The scent is vanilla bean, molasses, toffee, bourbon and dark roast coffee. Fantastic. Not quite 4.5 but better than 4.0.

The taste of this beer is what I look for in BA stouts but rarely get. Integration of barrel, multiple flavors, richness to those flavors. The taste matches the nose in flavor. All work well together.

Mouthfeel is great for having little carbonation. Very viscous and leaves the mouth coated. Lasting flavor on the finish.

I want more of this beer. One of the better BA stouts I've ever had.

GoGriz, Jun 02, 2011
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4.35/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampled both batches in succession at the West Lakeview Liquors De Molen tasting. Thanks Kristina! Served in a Glunz taster glass. Mostly going off the superior first release from August 22nd, 2010 here.

A - Thin tan foam settles to a thin collar, no lace. Vaguely transparent dark brown body.

S - The aroma is terrific, with great integration of bourbon, vanilla, roasted malts, biscuit, caramel, and chocolate. Really nice balance of flavors here.

T - Taste is a bit more roasty, with light residual bitterness. Still, this is heavy on the chocolate and biscuit flavors, with pleasant oaky vanilla and a touch of bourbon.

M - Low carbonation, medium-full body, super chewy, with exceptionally well-hidden alcohol. Quite mellow - I could easily have consumed the entire nip bottle on my own.

D - Well, the first batch is significantly better than the more recent (red-waxed) one from February 2011. The newer one is harsher, with more overt oak and alcohol flavors. That being said, I think I like the De Molen Black Damnations more. Since tracking down the first release may prove impossible, I'd recommend sitting on the newer bottles for a bit longer to see if they mellow.

MasterSki, Jun 25, 2012
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4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this bottle up from overseas. Served alongside the regular version and the Misto (courtesy of Eric). Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours a near-black color with a very thin mocha head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves just a few bubbles behind. The nose has a ton of bourbon, though it's pretty smooth. Roast and chocolate in the background along with some mild vanilla and booze. The flavor is dominated by the bourbon, though no complaints here as it is quite nice. Oak and vanilla plus some chocolate. Body is a bit boozy and not quite as smooth or creamy as the Misto version. Really nice, still. Great beer; this was a really fun comparison set.

Thorpe429, May 14, 2011
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4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey barrel aged. Brewed 10 Oct 2010. Bottled 14/21 Feb 2011. 13% ABV. .33cl bottle served into a minigoblet at Olbutikken in Copenhagen, in early July 2011. Reviewed from detailed notes. Expectations were extremely high given the beer's reputation. Purchased at Olbutikken.

Served slightly warmer than refrigerator cold. I talked with the Olbutikken worker while reviewing, which is why this review is less detailed than most of my high-rating reviews. I had this shortly before reviewing Mikkeller Black Hole Red Wine edition (also at Olbutikken).

A: Pours no head at all - a common De Molen feature, and likely a result of the 13% ABV. Colour is a solid nontransparent black.

Sm: A mild strength aroma of caramel, toffee, and chocolate. Subtle and inviting.

T: Bourbon notes, spice, chocolate, toffee, and very light cream. No caramel or alcohol comes through. Complex and incredibly well built, with a well layered dark malt foundation. The spices are divine, but masterfully subtle. The flavour profile as a whole features incredible subtlety. Very well balanced.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Complements the flavours. Unfortunately, it's a bit undercarbonated though. Good thickness.

Dr: Very drinkable. An amazing beer, and probably the best I've had from De Molen. It lives up to the hype. I'd have it again anytime. Hides its ABV incredibly well. Subtle and wonderful. Complex and amazing. Very fairly priced in Denmark.

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kojevergas, May 21, 2012
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4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

180ml bottle into a snifter, courtesy of Paul - thanks for opening this on our stealth cellar trip & thanks for such a great tasting!

The brew looks decent enough in the snifter - it's a dark black color with just a touch of lighter brown and a hint of red around the edges when backlit. The biggest positive thing about the appearance is the color, the biggest negative is the lack of any head whatsoever. Just a few bubbles after the vigerous pour, with a quick submission and no lace. That's OK for a big BA RIS, but I'd still like a sign of life or two.

The smell is awesome. Wild Turkey is evident - this is a unique whisky and is present in it's glory with notes of initial astringency dissipating to uncover nice touches of vanilla and honey. There's a great base beer underneath - this is a De Molen product, remember - and notes of chocolate, char, earth and dark fruit emerge as the beer opens up. Very, very nice job showcasing the barrel!

The taste is equally impressive, with the barrel really showing through over the base beer's sweet malt foundation. There's notes of spicy bourbon courtesy of the Turkey, with more subtle vanilla and oak emerging from time to time. The wonderful Hel & Verdoemenis underneath has notes of chocolate, dark fruit and even a touch of hops. But the star of the show is the whisky, and the base beer is very sweet but never crosses the line. Again, very well done.

The mouthfeel suffers just a bit due to low carbonation and just a touch of syrupiness. But that's OK - it's still better than most of the big BA RIS out there. Medium-plus body with a wonderful booze-kissed finish. Overall, this is really good stuff. Thanks to the host with the most, this was a fun brew to enjoy with good beer peeps! Cheers!!

jampics2, May 24, 2011
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4.29/5  rDev +1.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.25

2/7/13 bottle.

Look: Pours with thick, large, mocha head. Slow to medium retention speed, stickier big bubbles break down - they mostly form lacing. Leaves a thick but solid layer, good amount of lacing through. Dark, dark brown, no living light can penetrate it.

Smell: Cacao, fat, full, stuffy as fuck. Milk chocolate with very well represented bourbon oak are the dominant notes. Salty, mineral, burned soy sauce, but good incorporation into roasted, chocolate heavy malt. Light alcohol to detect.

Taste: Salty, medium intense molasses start. Also very light acidity that does it good. It continues into mostly milk chocolate with some roast and burned caramel medium-heavy sweetness. But this gets quickly dominated with medium to heavy honey bourbon oak with a noticeable alcohol spike and ends with medium to heavy coffee, cappuccino bitterness. Late in the after some coconut notes star to flow around. The taste is a lot less stuffy than the nose.

Mouthfeel: Full, medium heavy body, solid, creamy with some alcohol warming.

Overall: As it's none barreled base, it’s quite a beer. A fat one, full of darker malt wonders, but this time with a very strong bourbon presence, maybe a bit too much for my taste. It's a demanding beer, but well worth your time.

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 90 ratings.