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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

Not Rated.
Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

90 Ratings
THE BROS
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no score

(send 'em beer!)
Ratings: 90
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 4.24
pDev: 9.2%
Wants: 48
Gots: 19 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: doopiedoopiedoo on 02-26-2011)
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Photo of DaPeculierDane
3.33/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

Thank you John.

Brewed: 23 Jul 2009
Bottled: 22 Aug 2010
Consumed: 21 Apr 2012

O.G. 1105
F.G. 1027
EBC Colour 308.9

Chechz hops, Bittering hops Premianl, and Chechz Saaz
99 EBUs
To be consumed at 15 C

One of 96 bottles produced.

Dark brown but not tar or black. Completely flat.

Aroma of char and vanilla. Noticeably boozy. Chocolate powder.

Tastes like Lawrenceberg, maple syrup, liquid brown sugar, vanilla extract blended with maple syrup an sugar, and bourbon blended chocolate stout which has been diluted through boiling after being mixed 2:1 with sugar.

Mouthfeel: Sweet. Sickly sweet. It’s a good thing this bottle is so small. There is a redeeming touch of twang at the end but for the most part this is a flat, sugary, syrupy mess. It is like drinking warm syrup.

Drinkability: Nil. This beer has been in a refrigerator for two years. Perhaps that did something to it??? This is not a very enjoyable beer. BBA freaks would love it but it’s not my cup of tea. Too thick and sweet. It may have been better younger when it would have been balanced with a greater hop presence or later when its tar like state would be more respectable. Some carbonation would help. It has none.

DaPeculierDane, Apr 22, 2012
Photo of pixieskid
3.35/5  rDev -21%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

My bottle reads 13% abv.

Well; certainly an example of how a solid beer can be hurt via barrel aging. Not sure if mine was a "bad" bottle, but it certainly doesn't stack up to others reviews.

Pour; jet black with no head whatsoever, poured this thing quite aggressively as well.
Nose; straight up whiskey with a hint of woodiness and vanilla.
Taste; pretty much the same as the nose; lots of whiskey but it's not overwhelming. Underlying roastiness with a hint of milk chocolate and vanilla.
Overall; pretty disappointing compared to the non-BA version but the abv is well hidden and it is somewhat nice in a whiskey forward way; decent overall.

pixieskid, Dec 05, 2011
Photo of jrallen34
3.4/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

batch 2, bottle # 1256... dark brown body, hint of dark amber on the fringe, a dark tan head rises about two fingers but is gone way to quick to only leave a light watery ring... light bourbon backbone, present but not overpowering, in addition to the bourbon, light chocolate, molasses and vanilla, like it but not strong enough, too muted to love it... taste is chocolate with alcohol, too alcoholic, a bit of vanilla on the back, ok... mouthfeel is full and velvety but a touch to warm... this is ok, probably needs some more time as its too hot... a little disappointing

jrallen34, Jun 05, 2011
Photo of largadeer
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Popery shared this tasty treat. Thanks!

Pours a rather sludgy dark brown, not quite black but very viscous. Pretty much no carbonation.

Quite a bit of boozy bourbon deliciousness on the nose. Pretty hot, roasty, bit of molasses and dark chocolate. A surprising amount of booze appears as it warms. The barrel could be integrated a lot better here.

The palate is better than the nose, but it's still pretty damn hot. There are some nice flavors here, licorice and roasted malt, old leather, oak, brash bourbon. Plenty of sharp booze, too. The body is full, carbonation is low. The finish lingers with a lot of tannin and booze.

It's a nice sipper, but it's pretty unrefined stuff, slightly harsh. Still worth a try.

largadeer, Aug 06, 2011
Photo of doucmehu
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%

doucmehu, Oct 02, 2012
Photo of bootdown21
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%

bootdown21, Apr 06, 2014
Photo of kscaldef
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%

kscaldef, Jul 11, 2013
Photo of eric5bellies
3.59/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Drank from my 1950's St Sixtus chalice

A - Pours the classic dark ebony colour with minimal head.

S - Aromas of vanilla, wood, oak and molasses.

TO - Up front some vanilla followed by some coffee and massive boozy bourbon flavours. The finish is very boozy and sticky sweet.

M - Medium to full with low carbonation. A bit thin.

O - The Europeans tend to struggle with this type of beer. It is not balanced at all and lack complexity. When measured with some US counterparts it leaves much to be desired.

eric5bellies, Sep 08, 2013
Photo of Jwale73
3.74/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Had this in the bottle at Beervana 2013 and I was completely blown away. Still, but a solid 4.5 nonetheless. Had the chance to revisit this beer on 5/14/2014 at Norey's - not the same beer.

6oz. pour served in a sampler. Color was consistent with cola in hue and clarity. Head was 1/8th of an inch and khaki-colored. Nose is typical of a Russian Imperial Stout, but really no evidence of the barrel here - roast, char, dark malts and a hint of cocoa. Taste consistent with nose with just a trace of ethanol. The version out of the bottle was quite vibrant. The draft version gave no impression of barrel-aging whatsoever. Mouthfeel was light-medium in body with an even carbonation level, but a bit too assertive for my sensibilities. Overall - much better in the bottle and I question whether this may actually have been the standard Hel & Verdoemensis. I hope this was the case because this was fairly disappointing.

Jwale73, Oct 19, 2013
Photo of killcore
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

killcore, Sep 20, 2014
Photo of pisano
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

pisano, Apr 07, 2014
Photo of ygtbsm94
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

ygtbsm94, May 26, 2012
Photo of Mikeluzzjr
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Mikeluzzjr, Apr 08, 2014
Photo of eawolff99
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

eawolff99, Jul 03, 2012
Photo of Sean9689
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Little bottle thanks to Kristina at WLV Liquors!

A - Pours black, bubbles on top, no head, no lace, no cap.

S - Dark fruit, Wild Turkey, char, chocolate, oak. The booze is obviously there, but doesn't take over and actually compliments the rest of the beer. Dark fruits and chocolate pretty much take the rest of the nose.

T - Caramel, maple syrup, burnt sugars, booze, chocolate, light vanilla. The palate doesn't feature the dark fruity sweetness like the nose does, which I much prefer. The booze is decently smooth for 10% and doesn't hurt the beer. The finish is light char, chocolate, and oaked Wild Turkey. A sipper. Develops more char as the beer warms, which is a bit off-putting.

M - Medium, body is perhaps a bit too thin, very light carbonation (if any), creamy rich finish.

O - A nice RIS but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's World Class. The taste and nose are good (not outstanding), but the light carbonation, thin body, and char notes hurt the overall score. That said, I would drink again, no problem at all.

Sean9689, May 02, 2012
Photo of Alieniloquium
3.83/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

330 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 2/7/2013.

Appearance - Black with a hint of transparency. Small off-white head. Medium collar.

Smell - Lots of intense roasted malt. Slightly fruity. Some whiskey, but not all that intense.

Taste - More whiskey in the flavor. A little nutty. Not much barrel character, just some bourbon liquor. Finishes with a lingering oak flavor.

Mouthfeel - Overcarbonated, but not too badly. Boozy. Medium heavy.

Overall - My palate is shot at this point, but it's still really tasty.

Alieniloquium, Jan 21, 2014
Photo of BEERchitect
3.95/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

With the assistance of Wild Turkey bourbon to the ultra roasty Hel & Verdoemenis stout, there's a barrel-aged silkiness that emerges that softens the ashy edge of the beer while complementing with caramel and vanilla sweetness.

Pouring from an oddly clear bottle dipped judiciously with red wax, the 11oz bottle decants with a inky black color, rich viscosity, and low lying carbonation. Like espresso, only a delicate creme aligns the edge of the glass with intermittent pockets muddled about. Instead of lacing, the beer extends its appearance with brandyish legging and oils.

Rich aromas of strong roasted coffee, cocoa, scorched caramel, butterscotch, charred woods, roasted walnuts, cherry flavored alcohols, soft vanilla and almond all share the stage with the scents of bourbon and espresso leading the way. A great sense of depth and complexity is promised even before the first sip is taken.

The dominance of roasted grain and bourbon booze also dominate the taste while the complementing flavors of burnt caramel, campfire smoke, spicy tannin, cherry wood, thin maple, nuttiness, peppery phenols, and charred fruits offer a ton of interest and complexity- releasing new flavors at each visit to the glass. Still, the strong taste of ash that's noted in the original Hel & Verdominis is alive and well in this beer although the succulence of Wild Turkey bourbon rounds off the rougher edges of the dry roast taste.

The robust texture that's pulled together by the mildly unresolved sweetness is aided by the lack of carbonation that allows the sweetness to cling richly to the tongue and coax the palate with thin bourbon sweetness and boozy heat. Semi-dry to finish, the beer's light powdery texture of ash and grain derived astringency delivers one last pang of sharpness to complement the bourbon dryness.

Although I prefer this Wild Turkey barrel aged version of Hel & Verdominis much better than the original, it still has work to do as the phenols, tannins, and ash give the beer a drier roast and chalky taste and texture that's hard to dismiss.

Enjoyed at Kulminator, Antwerp Belgium

BEERchitect, May 14, 2012
Photo of s1ckboy
3.98/5  rDev -6.1%
look: 2.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

Bottle dated February 2011. Had on Feb 2012.

A - Pour produced no head. After an aggressive swirl a bubble or two appeared. Very dark, cola colored around edges.

S - Bourbon dominates the nose. Smells great.

T - Mostly bourbon at first. Finish has hints of flavors typical of a stout, roast, dark fruits, molasses.

M - Medium. Not completely flat as the appearance would suggest. Smooth finish.

A good beer. Wish it had more carbonation. Could have waited another year to open.

s1ckboy, Feb 21, 2012
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

gillagorilla, Apr 21, 2014
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

mtbdonn, Sep 02, 2013
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

Abio, Apr 29, 2013
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

DrBier, Apr 26, 2014
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

Bandi, Apr 19, 2013
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

Axnjxn, Feb 12, 2014
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4/5  rDev -5.7%

jbuddle, Jul 12, 2013
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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 90 ratings.