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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.

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BA SCORE
94
outstanding

92 Ratings
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Ratings: 92
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 4.24
pDev: 8.96%
Wants: 48
Gots: 19 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
No notes at this time.

(Beer added by: doopiedoopiedoo on 02-26-2011)
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4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of Thorpe429
4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Picked this bottle up from overseas. Served alongside the regular version and the Misto (courtesy of Eric). Served in a FFF-Intelligentsia snifter.

Pours a near-black color with a very thin mocha head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves just a few bubbles behind. The nose has a ton of bourbon, though it's pretty smooth. Roast and chocolate in the background along with some mild vanilla and booze. The flavor is dominated by the bourbon, though no complaints here as it is quite nice. Oak and vanilla plus some chocolate. Body is a bit boozy and not quite as smooth or creamy as the Misto version. Really nice, still. Great beer; this was a really fun comparison set.

Photo of olradetbalder
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of metter98
4.11/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

A: The beer is jet black in color. It poured with a thin dark tan head that quickly died down, leaving a bit of lacing on the surface and a collar around the edge of the glass.
S: Moderate to strong aromas of bourbon from the barrel aging are present in the nose.
T: The taste is similar to the smell and has lots of flavors of bourbon along with associated notes of vanilla and hints of chocolate from the underlying malts.
M: It feels medium- to full-bodied on the palate and has a moderate amount of carbonation with lots of warming from the bourbon.
O: This beer is nice if you like bourbon but the barrel aging really masks the flavors of the underlying beer. It tastes rather strong, but most of the alcohol that is noticeable comes from the bourbon.

Photo of BEERchitect
3.95/5  rDev -6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

With the assistance of Wild Turkey bourbon to the ultra roasty Hel & Verdoemenis stout, there's a barrel-aged silkiness that emerges that softens the ashy edge of the beer while complementing with caramel and vanilla sweetness.

Pouring from an oddly clear bottle dipped judiciously with red wax, the 11oz bottle decants with a inky black color, rich viscosity, and low lying carbonation. Like espresso, only a delicate creme aligns the edge of the glass with intermittent pockets muddled about. Instead of lacing, the beer extends its appearance with brandyish legging and oils.

Rich aromas of strong roasted coffee, cocoa, scorched caramel, butterscotch, charred woods, roasted walnuts, cherry flavored alcohols, soft vanilla and almond all share the stage with the scents of bourbon and espresso leading the way. A great sense of depth and complexity is promised even before the first sip is taken.

The dominance of roasted grain and bourbon booze also dominate the taste while the complementing flavors of burnt caramel, campfire smoke, spicy tannin, cherry wood, thin maple, nuttiness, peppery phenols, and charred fruits offer a ton of interest and complexity- releasing new flavors at each visit to the glass. Still, the strong taste of ash that's noted in the original Hel & Verdominis is alive and well in this beer although the succulence of Wild Turkey bourbon rounds off the rougher edges of the dry roast taste.

The robust texture that's pulled together by the mildly unresolved sweetness is aided by the lack of carbonation that allows the sweetness to cling richly to the tongue and coax the palate with thin bourbon sweetness and boozy heat. Semi-dry to finish, the beer's light powdery texture of ash and grain derived astringency delivers one last pang of sharpness to complement the bourbon dryness.

Although I prefer this Wild Turkey barrel aged version of Hel & Verdominis much better than the original, it still has work to do as the phenols, tannins, and ash give the beer a drier roast and chalky taste and texture that's hard to dismiss.

Enjoyed at Kulminator, Antwerp Belgium

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of westcoastbeerlvr
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of largadeer
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.5

Popery shared this tasty treat. Thanks!

Pours a rather sludgy dark brown, not quite black but very viscous. Pretty much no carbonation.

Quite a bit of boozy bourbon deliciousness on the nose. Pretty hot, roasty, bit of molasses and dark chocolate. A surprising amount of booze appears as it warms. The barrel could be integrated a lot better here.

The palate is better than the nose, but it's still pretty damn hot. There are some nice flavors here, licorice and roasted malt, old leather, oak, brash bourbon. Plenty of sharp booze, too. The body is full, carbonation is low. The finish lingers with a lot of tannin and booze.

It's a nice sipper, but it's pretty unrefined stuff, slightly harsh. Still worth a try.

Photo of JAHMUR
4.75/5  rDev +12%

Photo of MasterSki
4.35/5  rDev +2.6%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Sampled both batches in succession at the West Lakeview Liquors De Molen tasting. Thanks Kristina! Served in a Glunz taster glass. Mostly going off the superior first release from August 22nd, 2010 here.

A - Thin tan foam settles to a thin collar, no lace. Vaguely transparent dark brown body.

S - The aroma is terrific, with great integration of bourbon, vanilla, roasted malts, biscuit, caramel, and chocolate. Really nice balance of flavors here.

T - Taste is a bit more roasty, with light residual bitterness. Still, this is heavy on the chocolate and biscuit flavors, with pleasant oaky vanilla and a touch of bourbon.

M - Low carbonation, medium-full body, super chewy, with exceptionally well-hidden alcohol. Quite mellow - I could easily have consumed the entire nip bottle on my own.

D - Well, the first batch is significantly better than the more recent (red-waxed) one from February 2011. The newer one is harsher, with more overt oak and alcohol flavors. That being said, I think I like the De Molen Black Damnations more. Since tracking down the first release may prove impossible, I'd recommend sitting on the newer bottles for a bit longer to see if they mellow.

Photo of drabmuh
4.47/5  rDev +5.4%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Bottle shared by Thorpe recently served side by side by side with the base beer and Misto B.A. versions, quite a cool thing to do. This was the winner (by a nose) to me.

Again, beer is black, very little head, low carbonation, no lacing, looks like a barrel aged stout to me.

Aroma is better in this one, much much more bourbon, still quite smooth, nice follow up roastiness and mild vanilla and oak. I'm looking forward to this.

I want a beer to push back a little, it is easy to overdo it but still, this beer is sweet, has the bourbon almost immediately, doesn't finish too harshly, leaves you wanting more. It's sweet but not cloying, bourbon flavored but not hot. Mouthfeel is great, it is a good beer all around. This one had the most aggressive and complex flavor profile, that's why it wins for me.

Pours a near-black color with a very thin mocha head that dissipates pretty quickly and leaves just a few bubbles behind. The nose has a ton of bourbon, though it's pretty smooth. Roast and chocolate in the background along with some mild vanilla and booze. The flavor is dominated by the bourbon, though no complaints here as it is quite nice. Oak and vanilla plus some chocolate. Body is a bit boozy and not quite as smooth or creamy as the Misto version. Really nice, still. Great beer; this was a really fun comparison set.

Photo of Mora2000
4.43/5  rDev +4.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Thanks to Cavie for sharing this bottle. Excited to try this one.

The beer pours a dark brown color with a tan head. The aroma is heavy on the roasted malt and chocolate, with an overwhelming amount of bourbon mixed in. I also get quite a bit of oak mixed in on the aroma.

The flavor is also great. I get a lot chocolate and roasted malt, as well as all of the notes you expect from a bourbon-barrel aged beer: wood, vanilla, maple and whiskey. There is also a little bit of coffee, although it is faint and overpowered by the other flavors. The alcohol is quite noticeable.

Medium carbonation and thick, chewy mouthfeel.

Glad I got to try this one, as it didn't disappoint.

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4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4.5

Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey barrel aged. Brewed 10 Oct 2010. Bottled 14/21 Feb 2011. 13% ABV. .33cl bottle served into a minigoblet at Olbutikken in Copenhagen, in early July 2011. Reviewed from detailed notes. Expectations were extremely high given the beer's reputation. Purchased at Olbutikken.

Served slightly warmer than refrigerator cold. I talked with the Olbutikken worker while reviewing, which is why this review is less detailed than most of my high-rating reviews. I had this shortly before reviewing Mikkeller Black Hole Red Wine edition (also at Olbutikken).

A: Pours no head at all - a common De Molen feature, and likely a result of the 13% ABV. Colour is a solid nontransparent black.

Sm: A mild strength aroma of caramel, toffee, and chocolate. Subtle and inviting.

T: Bourbon notes, spice, chocolate, toffee, and very light cream. No caramel or alcohol comes through. Complex and incredibly well built, with a well layered dark malt foundation. The spices are divine, but masterfully subtle. The flavour profile as a whole features incredible subtlety. Very well balanced.

Mf: Smooth and wet. Complements the flavours. Unfortunately, it's a bit undercarbonated though. Good thickness.

Dr: Very drinkable. An amazing beer, and probably the best I've had from De Molen. It lives up to the hype. I'd have it again anytime. Hides its ABV incredibly well. Subtle and wonderful. Complex and amazing. Very fairly priced in Denmark.

A

Photo of mdaschaf
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of Huhzubendah
4/5  rDev -5.7%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Shared by ygtbsm94. Thanks Brad.

Brewed 10 Oct 2010
Bottled 14/21 Feb 2011

Bottle 1299 of 1560

The beer is dark brown with a thin, beige head of broken bubbles. The head fades rapidly, leaving an oily film on the snifter.

The aroma offers a healthy dose of oak and barrels, followed by roast and booze.

The beer also tastes very oak forward, even somewhat tannic. The flavor exhibits a nice roast character, as well as notes of chocolate covered berries. Additional flavors include malt, syrup, molasses.

The feel is relatively full bodied, with lingering notes of oak and booze.

Overall, I found this to be pretty tasty. I would have it again.

Photo of DrBier
4/5  rDev -5.7%

Photo of liamt07
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of Alieniloquium
3.83/5  rDev -9.7%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 4

330 mL bottle poured into a snifter. Bottled 2/7/2013.

Appearance - Black with a hint of transparency. Small off-white head. Medium collar.

Smell - Lots of intense roasted malt. Slightly fruity. Some whiskey, but not all that intense.

Taste - More whiskey in the flavor. A little nutty. Not much barrel character, just some bourbon liquor. Finishes with a lingering oak flavor.

Mouthfeel - Overcarbonated, but not too badly. Boozy. Medium heavy.

Overall - My palate is shot at this point, but it's still really tasty.

Photo of drummermattie02
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of jrallen34
3.4/5  rDev -19.8%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 3 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.5

batch 2, bottle # 1256... dark brown body, hint of dark amber on the fringe, a dark tan head rises about two fingers but is gone way to quick to only leave a light watery ring... light bourbon backbone, present but not overpowering, in addition to the bourbon, light chocolate, molasses and vanilla, like it but not strong enough, too muted to love it... taste is chocolate with alcohol, too alcoholic, a bit of vanilla on the back, ok... mouthfeel is full and velvety but a touch to warm... this is ok, probably needs some more time as its too hot... a little disappointing

Photo of Axnjxn
4/5  rDev -5.7%

Photo of kscaldef
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%

Photo of bsuedekum
4.75/5  rDev +12%

Photo of tectactoe
4.11/5  rDev -3.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Big thanks to Will for splitting this bottle, along with a few other De Molen goodies. The Wild Turkey barrel variant of Hel & Verdoemenis shows pretty much the same color as the last two variants that were enjoyed before it (shocking, right?); black in the center and dark brown around the edges. This one show a bit more carbonation liveliness with an actual head that forms momentarily before fading to a lighter colored collar.

Robust and powerful aroma; I'm starting to learn that most of the Hel & Verdoemenis series of beers are quite strong and potent, even when you already consider that they're all 10%+ ABV Russian imperial stouts. Dark, bitter chocolate, moderate amounts of oak, smooth, warming bourbon, and some back o' the nostrils, ashy roast and char. Definitely a nose-hair burner, but the booze is integrated much better in this particular variant, methinks.

The first sip is shockingly just a little sweeter than the last two H&V beers, and it's certainly a welcomed change. Again, the beer is full of plentiful dark chocolate, roasty malt, and lighter amounts of coffee, but there's a swimming undercurrent of sweet creaminess that really tames the background of dry oak and warming bourbon. This subtle, yet powerful sweetness is exactly what I feel was lacking in the first two variants we sampled - I'm glad it finally showed up.

That's not to say that this brew isn't boozy, though - it's 11% ABV, and it demands sippage and respect just as well as any other 11% ABV stout, but the touch of sweet, underlying cream provides the balance that really does wonders for the drinkability. As with the others, the mouth feel would benefit from a bit more thickness to match the robustness of the aromas and flavors, but this variant contains a little more carbonation, which definitely helps some, too.

I thought this would be my least favorite of the three Hel & Verdoemenis variants we tried that night, mainly because I'm not a huge fan of Wild Turkey (and it had the lowest online ratings of the three). But low and behold, it was actually my favorite of them all, and by quite a large margin. The key is the mild sweetness, helping to blunt the heavy booze and roast.

Photo of DefenCorps
4.15/5  rDev -2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Bottle shared by Thorpe429 , alongside the regular and Misto BA versions (shared by TurdFurgison). Thanks, guys!

Black and flat, this has reddish-brown highlights. The nose is better than the Misto, IMO. Fruitier with more coffee, a nice dark fruit and chocolate character to go with the boozier, less complex barrel character. Despite the reduced complexity, this works better IMO. The palate opens boozier, hotter and with brown sugar, vanilla and plenty of chocolate.Moderately roasty with some burnt malt bitterness present, this finishes a little sweet and boozy with plenty of chocolate liqueur. Excellent stuff

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
94 out of 100 based on 92 ratings.