Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. - Brouwerij De Molen

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Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A.

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BA SCORE
93
outstanding

92 Ratings
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Ratings: 92
Reviews: 36
rAvg: 4.24
pDev: 8.96%
Wants: 48
Gots: 19 | FT: 3
Brewed by:
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Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  11.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes/Commercial Description:
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(Beer added by: doopiedoopiedoo on 02-26-2011)
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3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of thagr81us
4.53/5  rDev +6.8%
look: 4 | smell: 5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

Massive thanks goes out to beeruser for sharing this one with funkydelic and I at an impromptu tasting! First batch (96 bottles)! Served from bottle into a Mikkeller sampler wine glass. Poured a massively dark brownwith a minimal light tan head. There was no lacing evident throughout the glass. The aroma was comprised of sweet malt, dark chocolate, wood, and dark fruit. The flavor was of sweet malt, roasted malt, dark chocolate, coffee, wood, and subtle sweet alcohol. It had a medium feel on the palate with mild carbonation. Overall this was just an excellent brew. The aroma on this one was excellent. So much so, it actually took me awhile to take my first sip as I kept going back to smell it over and over. Once it did hit my palate I knew I was in the presence of a great beer. The flavor was very complex and smooth. All aspects of this one just seemed to work in unison to make the others stand out. Really a great beer that I was very happy to have the opportunity to try!

Photo of Jwale73
3.74/5  rDev -11.8%
look: 4 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.5 | overall: 3.75

Had this in the bottle at Beervana 2013 and I was completely blown away. Still, but a solid 4.5 nonetheless. Had the chance to revisit this beer on 5/14/2014 at Norey's - not the same beer.

6oz. pour served in a sampler. Color was consistent with cola in hue and clarity. Head was 1/8th of an inch and khaki-colored. Nose is typical of a Russian Imperial Stout, but really no evidence of the barrel here - roast, char, dark malts and a hint of cocoa. Taste consistent with nose with just a trace of ethanol. The version out of the bottle was quite vibrant. The draft version gave no impression of barrel-aging whatsoever. Mouthfeel was light-medium in body with an even carbonation level, but a bit too assertive for my sensibilities. Overall - much better in the bottle and I question whether this may actually have been the standard Hel & Verdoemensis. I hope this was the case because this was fairly disappointing.

Photo of popery
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of smithj4
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of tom10101
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of Ciocanelu
4.75/5  rDev +12%

Photo of Sean9689
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3 | overall: 3.5

Little bottle thanks to Kristina at WLV Liquors!

A - Pours black, bubbles on top, no head, no lace, no cap.

S - Dark fruit, Wild Turkey, char, chocolate, oak. The booze is obviously there, but doesn't take over and actually compliments the rest of the beer. Dark fruits and chocolate pretty much take the rest of the nose.

T - Caramel, maple syrup, burnt sugars, booze, chocolate, light vanilla. The palate doesn't feature the dark fruity sweetness like the nose does, which I much prefer. The booze is decently smooth for 10% and doesn't hurt the beer. The finish is light char, chocolate, and oaked Wild Turkey. A sipper. Develops more char as the beer warms, which is a bit off-putting.

M - Medium, body is perhaps a bit too thin, very light carbonation (if any), creamy rich finish.

O - A nice RIS but I wouldn't go as far as saying it's World Class. The taste and nose are good (not outstanding), but the light carbonation, thin body, and char notes hurt the overall score. That said, I would drink again, no problem at all.

Photo of Exiled
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of Jeffo
4.38/5  rDev +3.3%
look: 3 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4.5

This brew is ranked really highly on the other site, but for some reason, the 96 bottle first batch didn't get onto the site here. Really glad De Molen decided to brew this one again, and to bottle a reasonable amount of it as well. Got this bottle from the De Molen shop in Bodegraven.

From a 18cl bottle into a snifter.
Batch #2. Brewed 10 Oct 2010 and bottled 14/21 Feb 2011.
Bottle 736 of 1560.
OG: 1105
FG: 1027

APPEARANCE: A black pour produces a very small, faint, tan head that vanishes almost immediately. Head barely makes an appearance and is gone. A stringy wisp and ring remain. Jet black body with zero carbonation evident. Ring remains but leaves no lacing down the glass. Thick looking stout, but average at best.

SMELL: A big nose for sure. Travels through the room. Roasted malts, dark bakers chocolate and some faint espresso notes. Barrel is definitely there. Bourbon notes with a good dose of vanilla and some brown sugar. A touch of booze in there as well. Lots of barrel without dominating. Very enticing.

TASTE: Lots of flavor. Roasted and charred malts with a good dose of pure, dark baker's chocolate and sweet caramel. Lots of barrel again, with some bourbon, oak, and a shot of vanilla. A big, bold and lingering aftertaste of barrel, roasted malts, and a touch of alcohol. Bourbon, vanilla, sweet brown sugar and roasted malts linger and linger. Barrel is definitely the front runner, though it doesn't overwhelm the base beer. Very well done.

PALATE: Thick, full body with very low levels of carbonation. Luckily this one is carbonated, as De Molen has had troubles in this department with their higher ABV stuff. Heavy and syrupy on the palate, though not overly creamy as a result. Goes down smooth with a bit of a burn after the swallow and finishes relatively mouth coating. Palate fits the beer very well.

OVERALL: It's obvious why this brew ranks so highly. Definitely one of De Molen's more barrel forward BA stouts, but done extremely well, without dominating the base beer. Still somewhat boozy for top marks, but given a little bit of time, and this will turn into a gem. A bold, flavorful, and superbly crafted barrel aged imperial stout. Worth tracking down for sure.

EDIT: With a huge thanks to Dennoman, Doopie and I were able to try a complete H&V Wild Turkey vertical, including the first batch 96 bottle nip that was brewed in July 2009 and bottled in August 2010. This one was the clear favorite, edging out the 2nd batch and wiping the floor with the 3rd and most recent vintage. The first batch shared many of the same qualities with the 2nd, but was less boozy, more chocolate forward, and had some pronounced toffee and butterscotch flavors as well. Absolutely decadent, and a clear 5 for taste and aroma. Cheers again for this opportunity Dennis. Never dreamed I'd see this.

Photo of dfhhead25
4.5/5  rDev +6.1%

Photo of peensteen
4.24/5  rDev 0%
look: 4 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Thanks to Jeffo for the bottle!

Deep brown, ring of tanh head with some spots of lace. Smell is a mix of big roast and chocolate, bourbon, oak, coffee as well as a bit of bitterness. Taste is chocolate fudge and oak, light vanilla, roast malt and bourbon, finishes a bit bitter with a roasty-chocolate aftertaste. Light-medium carbonation, medium bodied. This was also really good, I liked it better than 666 but less than Misto, still a very good stout and would certainly have this again.

Photo of jampics2
4.33/5  rDev +2.1%
look: 4 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

180ml bottle into a snifter, courtesy of Paul - thanks for opening this on our stealth cellar trip & thanks for such a great tasting!

The brew looks decent enough in the snifter - it's a dark black color with just a touch of lighter brown and a hint of red around the edges when backlit. The biggest positive thing about the appearance is the color, the biggest negative is the lack of any head whatsoever. Just a few bubbles after the vigerous pour, with a quick submission and no lace. That's OK for a big BA RIS, but I'd still like a sign of life or two.

The smell is awesome. Wild Turkey is evident - this is a unique whisky and is present in it's glory with notes of initial astringency dissipating to uncover nice touches of vanilla and honey. There's a great base beer underneath - this is a De Molen product, remember - and notes of chocolate, char, earth and dark fruit emerge as the beer opens up. Very, very nice job showcasing the barrel!

The taste is equally impressive, with the barrel really showing through over the base beer's sweet malt foundation. There's notes of spicy bourbon courtesy of the Turkey, with more subtle vanilla and oak emerging from time to time. The wonderful Hel & Verdoemenis underneath has notes of chocolate, dark fruit and even a touch of hops. But the star of the show is the whisky, and the base beer is very sweet but never crosses the line. Again, very well done.

The mouthfeel suffers just a bit due to low carbonation and just a touch of syrupiness. But that's OK - it's still better than most of the big BA RIS out there. Medium-plus body with a wonderful booze-kissed finish. Overall, this is really good stuff. Thanks to the host with the most, this was a fun brew to enjoy with good beer peeps! Cheers!!

Photo of ystazi
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of JeffTheJuice
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of Rekrule
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of Brabander
4.25/5  rDev +0.2%

Photo of pisano
3.75/5  rDev -11.6%

Photo of pixieskid
3.35/5  rDev -21%
look: 2 | smell: 3 | taste: 4 | feel: 2.5 | overall: 3

My bottle reads 13% abv.

Well; certainly an example of how a solid beer can be hurt via barrel aging. Not sure if mine was a "bad" bottle, but it certainly doesn't stack up to others reviews.

Pour; jet black with no head whatsoever, poured this thing quite aggressively as well.
Nose; straight up whiskey with a hint of woodiness and vanilla.
Taste; pretty much the same as the nose; lots of whiskey but it's not overwhelming. Underlying roastiness with a hint of milk chocolate and vanilla.
Overall; pretty disappointing compared to the non-BA version but the abv is well hidden and it is somewhat nice in a whiskey forward way; decent overall.

Photo of DaPeculierDane
3.33/5  rDev -21.5%
look: 4 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.5 | feel: 1.5 | overall: 3

Thank you John.

Brewed: 23 Jul 2009
Bottled: 22 Aug 2010
Consumed: 21 Apr 2012

O.G. 1105
F.G. 1027
EBC Colour 308.9

Chechz hops, Bittering hops Premianl, and Chechz Saaz
99 EBUs
To be consumed at 15 C

One of 96 bottles produced.

Dark brown but not tar or black. Completely flat.

Aroma of char and vanilla. Noticeably boozy. Chocolate powder.

Tastes like Lawrenceberg, maple syrup, liquid brown sugar, vanilla extract blended with maple syrup an sugar, and bourbon blended chocolate stout which has been diluted through boiling after being mixed 2:1 with sugar.

Mouthfeel: Sweet. Sickly sweet. It’s a good thing this bottle is so small. There is a redeeming touch of twang at the end but for the most part this is a flat, sugary, syrupy mess. It is like drinking warm syrup.

Drinkability: Nil. This beer has been in a refrigerator for two years. Perhaps that did something to it??? This is not a very enjoyable beer. BBA freaks would love it but it’s not my cup of tea. Too thick and sweet. It may have been better younger when it would have been balanced with a greater hop presence or later when its tar like state would be more respectable. Some carbonation would help. It has none.

Photo of gillagorilla
4/5  rDev -5.7%

Photo of tykechandler
5/5  rDev +17.9%

Photo of Poupae
4.53/5  rDev +6.8%

Photo of doucmehu
3.5/5  rDev -17.5%

Photo of eric5bellies
3.59/5  rDev -15.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Drank from my 1950's St Sixtus chalice

A - Pours the classic dark ebony colour with minimal head.

S - Aromas of vanilla, wood, oak and molasses.

TO - Up front some vanilla followed by some coffee and massive boozy bourbon flavours. The finish is very boozy and sticky sweet.

M - Medium to full with low carbonation. A bit thin.

O - The Europeans tend to struggle with this type of beer. It is not balanced at all and lack complexity. When measured with some US counterparts it leaves much to be desired.

Hel & Verdoemenis Wild Turkey B.A. from Brouwerij De Molen
93 out of 100 based on 92 ratings.