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De Molen / Närke Goths & Vandals - Brouwerij De Molen

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De Molen / Närke Goths & VandalsDe Molen / Närke Goths & Vandals

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very good

82 Ratings
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Ratings: 82
Reviews: 16
rAvg: 4.03
pDev: 11.91%
Wants: 7
Gots: 13 | FT: 0
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website

Style | ABV
Belgian Strong Dark Ale |  11.10% ABV

Availability: Limited (brewed once)

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: MasterSki on 04-19-2013

This beer is retired; no longer brewed.

Collaboration with Narke, belgian strong ale aged in bourbon barrels
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Photo of Treyliff
4.19/5  rDev +4%
look: 3.25 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

12oz bottle poured into an oversized wine glass, looks to be well over a year old at this point

A- pours a dark opaque brown color with a very thin fizzy off-white head that disappears almost immediately, leaving nothing behind

S- the aroma closely mimics that of an english barleywine; lots of dark molasses, toffee, fig, raisin & dates. Underlying aromas of spicy rum, there are even some port-like vinous aromas. Hints of cola and acetone close it out

T- sweet and malty up front with notes of black strap molasses, melted caramel/toffee, brown sugar & prune. Notes of licorice candy kick in mid-palate, followed by notes of port and spicy wood. Some rum-like spice on the finish with some black cherry and currant sweetness

M- medium-heavy body with moderate-low mouthfeel leads to a slightly foamy mouthfeel that turns into a sticky finish with a slight alcohol warmth

O- this definitely falls more on the English barleywine side, rather than a Belgian dark ale in flavor. There are definitely barrel notes, but more so of port and rum, rather than bourbon. Overall, very enjoyable

Photo of Ozzylizard
3.77/5  rDev -6.5%
look: 3 | smell: 3.5 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 3.75

Undated 330 mL bottle at 45 degrees into tulip
Aroma – molasses
Head – none
Lacing – none
Body dark brown/black, opaque, weak effervescence
Flavor very sweet, molasses, brown sugar, some vanilla; no hops, no alcohol, no diacetyl
Palate full, syrupy, flat

Appearance 3, Aroma 3.5, Flavor 4, Palate 4, Overall 3.75

Photo of eawolff99
4.41/5  rDev +9.4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4.5 | taste: 4.5 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of emerge077
3.52/5  rDev -12.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.25

Photo of Flabbyjandro
4.04/5  rDev +0.2%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4

Photo of enelson
3.96/5  rDev -1.7%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Photo of Nat1975
4.19/5  rDev +4%
look: 4.25 | smell: 4 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Photo of kojevergas
3.24/5  rDev -19.6%
look: 3 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 3.25 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 3.25

Saw Narke's name on the front and had to pick this up.

BOTTLE: 11.2 fl oz. Brown glass. Generally appealing label art. Branded black pry-off pressure cap. Imported by the Shelton Bastards.

Reviewed live as a bourbon barrel aged ale per the label - though this is a Strong Dark Ale per the Shelton Bastards' website. Served cold into a tulip at high altitude in Castle Rock, CO. Expectations are sky high; Narke brewed the best beer I've ever had and I admire De Molen's barrel aging. Allowed to warm over the course of consumption. 10% ABV. Brewed & Bottled at De Molen.

No bubble show forms as it's poured. Yeast was left in the glass.

HEAD: Half finger wide. Khaki-white colour. Nice creaminess and thickness. Retention is poor - maybe 30 seconds at best. Leaves no lacing on the sides of the glass as it recedes.

BODY: Opaque dark brown-black. No hop sediment is visible, but there're yeasty chunks in the glass.

Overall, it looks good for a bourbon barrel ale, but I do wish the head was better (and longer lasting).

AROMA: The aroma suggests a chewy ale redolent of licorice and bourbon, with thick viscous treacle and heavy sugars. The bourbon is actually quite timid, but offers notes of vanilla and oak. It's heavy on dark malts.

I have to say, I'm a bit let down by the bourbon aromatics; hopefully the taste brings more intricate notes of coconut, toasted malt, toasted oak, barrel char, or something that sets off the bourbon more.

And the base seems more like a barleywine than anything else.

Overall, it's a pleasant albeit warm aroma of mild strength.

No yeast character or off-notes are detectable.

TASTE/TEXTURE: Rich and dessert-like, with a heavy barleywine-esque malty sweetness from dark malts, treacle, barrel sugars, and chocolate malt. The feel is chewy as hell, with a ludicrously full body and a heavy bulky presence on the palate...yet it's oddly thin, giving it an annoyingly weak feel. It's smooth and wet, but lacks the silkiness and softness that would elevate the beer beyond its mere taste.

The bourbon is the best aspect of the beer but still disappoints; there's a glimmer of vanilla and a hint of generic soulless oak, but no rich toastiness, coconut, evocative white oak, interesting barrel sugars, etc.

The base has its nuances, including licorice/anise, molasses, maple syrup, treacle, and brandy, with dessert-like hints of port and sherry wine. I can't help but think that more notes will emerge as it comes to temperature; there seems to be a lot of subtle character hiding under the surface of this one.

That said, the depth of flavour is below average - which I find shocking given the breweries behind this. Flavour duration and intensity are average.

It's aptly carbonated, and has no egregious texture problems (e.g. oiliness, astringency, et al).

Overall, I find it very underwhelming. It's a shell of a better beer, and just lacks evocative flavours. The shallowness of its constituent notes really undoes it.

OVERALL: Given the pedigree of both De Molen and Narke, I have to say I hoped for better. This is an interesting barleywine-esque build with some bourbon thrown in, but never quite finds it legs. It can't wrangle its complexity or subtlety into a cohesive gestalt focused flavour profile, and comes off somewhat chaotic as a result. The alcohol warmth is fine, but I wish it wasn't so thin. The bourbon barrel character is wanting, and I find myself questioning just how long the base was aged in barrels for - a few months, at best?

As it warms, some indistinct fruit emerges - too muted to evoke much at all. Raisin and a bit of fig, I guess?

High C+

Photo of freneticamnesic
4.3/5  rDev +6.7%

A - pours deep dark brown, thin brown head, dissipates quickly

S - raisins, dark fruit, alcohol, dark bread

M - only medium thick, little carbonation

T - coffee, raisins, black currant, brown sugar, alcohol notes, oak

O - overall a bit sour, but very nicely balanced. Also a bit light for a RIS, but typical for Dutch variants. The bourbon barrel aging adds a very nice flavour

Photo of Ejmac111
1/5  rDev -75.2%

Photo of olradetbalder
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of RobertH50
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%

Photo of 77apm
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of mrn1ceguy
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of Farnswurth
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of BrianBo
4.5/5  rDev +11.7%

Photo of polishkaz
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of bostonryan
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of hhollins11
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of DahWag
4.25/5  rDev +5.5%

Photo of RBuckley73
4/5  rDev -0.7%

Photo of Canada_Dan
4.17/5  rDev +3.5%

Photo of spycow
3.75/5  rDev -6.9%

Photo of stakem
4.27/5  rDev +6%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

Im guessing this has been brewed more than once. My bottle was dated Feb 28, 2013 and had an abv of 10.6% not the listed 11.1

12oz bottle poured into a matching De Molen taster tulip. The brew appears black in color with a rich mocha head that displays awesome powers of retention. A thick cream cap lasts for quite the duration considering its abv level. As it fades, patches of lace stick to the glass.

The smell contains notes of dark fruity sugar like raison and a tangy bourbon component before the onset of the malt imparting acents of chocolate, roast, caramel and some vanilla from the barrel aging.

The taste is boozy with bourbon upfront then malty with roasted grain and chocolate/earth flavors. In the middle and towards the finish you can pick up notes of raison, molasses, earth and herbal hops. Lots of character to take in here, nicely done.

This is a medium to full bodied brew. It is rich and modestly carbonated. The alcohol content is tame except for the occasional bourbon feel that pops out. This beer flirts between the lines of an imperial stout and belgian strong dark ale and it reallybis difficult to draw a line one way or the other. I liked this beer quite a lot but dont forsee myself ever having it again unless the price gets reduced dramatically.

Photo of BeerTruck
3.5/5  rDev -13.2%

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De Molen / Närke Goths & Vandals from Brouwerij De Molen
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