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Hel & Verdoemenis - Bourbon BA - Brouwerij De Molen

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120 Ratings
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Ratings: 120
Reviews: 30
rAvg: 4.36
pDev: 8.94%
Wants: 17
Gots: 19 | FT: 2
Brewed by:
Brouwerij De Molen visit their website
Netherlands

Style | ABV
Russian Imperial Stout |  10.00% ABV

Availability: Rotating

Notes & Commercial Description:
Beer added by: Dope on 08-23-2013

Aged for 20 months
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Photo of GONZALOYANNA
2.76/5  rDev -36.7%
look: 4 | smell: 3 | taste: 2.5 | feel: 3 | overall: 2.5

330ml bottle. Tulip glass @ BierCab (Barcelona). Deep ruby color, cloudy appearance. Tan froth, lasting crown. Caramel malt, spiced aromas, hints of bitter orange & woody hues to the nose. Sugar & caramel malt at first sip. Medium body. Soft carbonation. All flavors & aromas are quickly overwhelmed by intense alcohol notes. Bourbon provides a harsh ABV sensation. Unbalanced.

Photo of GarthT
3/5  rDev -31.2%
look: 3 | smell: 3 | taste: 3 | feel: 3 | overall: 3

Black with almost no carbonation. Roast malts on nose. Palate is very sweet, almost sugary. Not much else unfortunately. Perhaps a bad bottle (dated June 2013)

Photo of Eriktheipaman
3.25/5  rDev -25.5%

Photo of cpetrone84
3.5/5  rDev -19.7%

Pour is dark brown with dark tan head. Nose is pretty balanced with nice bourbon notes, faint peat and wood notes. Some roasted malt notes and hints of dark chocolate. Taste has much more peat and some interesting yeast notes. More malt complexity and and depth but a bit of sweetness through the finish. Milky chocolate and light roasted malt with brown sugar and malt sugar left over. Medium body with a creamy feel and softer carbonation.

Photo of pants678
3.65/5  rDev -16.3%
look: 3.5 | smell: 4 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 2.75 | overall: 3.5

Black with no head of note.

Vanilla and bourbon.

Bourbon's not as pronounced as chocolate. Faint hint of sweetness, would guess that's stronger pre barrel aging. Like Arcadia's BBA Stout, could well stand to be kicked up a few notches. Meets criteria yet hardly a beer of superlatives.

Could stand more carbonation even knowing the style.

Photo of ygtbsm94
3.75/5  rDev -14%

Photo of drewone
3.75/5  rDev -14%
look: 3.75 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 3.75 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 3.75

Very sweet - seems like a lot of risdule sugar, odd bourbon charact er. Not that enjoyable. I had once before at a tasting (small sample) and rated it 4.25, otherwise I would have rated it 3.25-3.5. Had the regular version last night, like only slightly better.

Photo of brother_kenneth
3.75/5  rDev -14%

Photo of nicole309
3.75/5  rDev -14%

Photo of Philvillani
3.8/5  rDev -12.8%

Photo of Jeffo
3.94/5  rDev -9.6%
look: 3 | smell: 4 | taste: 4 | feel: 4 | overall: 4

Got this at the De Molen beer shop in Bodegraven.

From a bottle into a snifter
EBC: 297
EBU: 102
24 degrees Plato

APPEARANCE: A clear, dark brown pour, almost black, yields a one finger, medium looking tan head with decent retention. Black body, transparent, with higher levels of carbonation evident. A splotchy wisp and ring remain leaving no real lacing down the glass.

SMELL: Lots of sweet cream and vanilla, milk chocolate, oak, toffee and butterscotch on the nose. Bourbon notes too, but the candy aromas come out much more prevalent here. Nice stuff.

TASTE: Bourbon, oak with some caramel and alcohol up front. Big and lingering finish with more spirit and wood, sweet vanilla, toffee and milk chocolate on the palate. Flavorful, but not extremely complex. Still, this has all the necessary elements in all the right places.

PALATE: Medium body with lower levels of carbonation. Creamy on the palate, goes down fine and finishes sticky. Some heat lingers. Like the feel of a lot of these brews.

OVERALL: Another good H&V variant. I don’t think this is quite as intense and complex as some of the others in the family, but it’s still a quality barrel aged H&V variant and can hold its own next to any of the heavy hitters in the style. Basically H&V could be aged in anything and it would probably turn out just fine. There are other variants I’d reach for first, but I certainly wouldn’t turn this one down. Cheers!

Photo of aasher
4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

Photo of Kaizoku
4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

Photo of MikeCactusGordon
4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

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4/5  rDev -8.3%

Photo of Chico1985
4.02/5  rDev -7.8%
look: 3.75 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 3.75 | overall: 4

Bottled 1/28/13.

Pour into a snifter is absolutely, positively pitch black. Barely any psst when it was opened, but a small tan cap appears and quickly forms a bubbly ring which remains for the duration and leaves bits of lace. Smell is decadent, pretty bourbon forward with huge chocolate-covered cherries, caramel and coconut. Definitely on the sweet side with not much roast.

The taste is good but seems more muddled, and missing some of the the nuances brought by the scent. Definitely very bourbony and sweet with lots of chocolate, brown sugar and dark fruit, with some charred oak and light smoke to balance it out along with some hop bitterness. There is some oxidation taste mid-palate noticeable with almost every sip but not too much of an issue. Mouthfeel is oily with low-carbonation, a bit hot with alcohol, could use more heftiness. Certainly a sipper.

It's kinda harsh for my tastes but it grew on me after some time. Even with the 11.2oz bottle this is probably one that's good to split.

Photo of Brabander
4.07/5  rDev -6.7%
look: 3.25 | smell: 3.75 | taste: 4.25 | feel: 4.25 | overall: 4.25

I like BBA stouts and this one is no exception. Great stout from my friend Menno, cheers! Very light alcoholburn but very drinkable.

Photo of AgentMunky
4.1/5  rDev -6%
look: 4 | smell: 3.25 | taste: 4.75 | feel: 3.25 | overall: 4.25

Poured from a 33mL bottle into a Bear Republic tasting glass. Bottled 28 January 2013.

A: NO head. Shiny black and opaque.

S: Coffee and dead yeast. Hints of sweeter chocolate dust.

T: Quite bitter, which is appealing at the moment. Hint of berry-sweet licorice RIS bitterness that's reminiscent of Expedition. The coffee topnotes never quite disappear though and pierce through the other flavors.

M: A bit flat, brief, and murky. Not great, but not terrible. Round.

O: The flavour is soaring, deep, and magnificent. The rest of the beer is less up to snuff. Still. Worthwhile, worth drinking, would drink again. Recommended.

Photo of Roguer
4.14/5  rDev -5%
look: 4.5 | smell: 4.25 | taste: 4 | feel: 4.5 | overall: 4

Extremely dark black stout, topped by a dark tan head. Firm, good retention, soapy lacing.

Big bourbon aroma, really dominating the profile. Some chocolate and roasted barley comes through. Some vanilla from the wood, and a hint of coconut.

Really smooth flavor up front: roasted barley without much bite at all, wrapped in a soft bourbon envelope. Strong bourbon notes take until the final 1/3 to really show up, and do so smoothly and sweetly, with a growing heat. Chocolate notes show up on the back-end as well. Tannins and tobacco on the finish, with a slight oaky sourness present throughout.

Shocking to see this clocks in at 102 EBU; it's bitter, but there isn't much hop representation beyond a slightly vegetal, earthy bitterness. Not a ton of bitterness from the roast, either.

A touch more chocolate as it warms. Smooths out overall very nicely.

Slick mouthfeel, medium bodied but quite a big beer, nonetheless. Bourbon aging provides a ton of heat. Very lively; almost too much sting to enjoy chewing, but not quite. Fairly long wet finish; lingering heat; bourbon and oak aftertaste linger on the tongue beautifully.

This is a very good BBA stout, especially for bourbon lovers. A stronger showing by the malt profile is all that keeps this from being truly world-class. I need more STOUT in my stout.

Definitely drink it warmer, or start slightly chilled and appreciate the change. This seems like a great candidate for aging.

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Hel & Verdoemenis - Bourbon BA from Brouwerij De Molen
96 out of 100 based on 120 ratings.